Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2012-03-24 Thread David Neylan
Thanks for posting about this.  I am a West Dorset Kubuntu user and I have
just joined your mailing list and I was totally unaware of the
consultation.  After a quick read I realise that I need to know a lot more
to make an informed response.

I was unable to come to the last meeting in Bournemouth and was wondering
when or if there could be a meeting in Dorchester/Weymouth or Bridport as
there are a number of us Linux users over this way.
A meeting could be a good way of coordinating a response to the
consultation. I have no great faith in consultations but I know the outcome
of not responding.

Dave Neylan


On 23 March 2012 15:07, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:

 On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 12:06:09 Terry Coles wrote:
  On Wednesday 28 Dec 2011 11:14:30 Simon P Smith wrote:
   The withdrawal of PPN 3/11 is a scandal!
  
   I was using it to try and get some non-M$ products into a government
   project  - looks like that particular prop to my case has been well and
   truly kicked out :(
 
  Can I suggest that you write to your MP and point this out.  By pure
  coincidence, I had just sealed the envelope holding my letter to my MP
  (Annette Brooke) when I saw your post.  I pointed out that the decision
  favours the foreign corporates and disadvantages UK companies.

 Well, it's taken very nearly three months, but I've finally got a reply to
 my
 letter.  Annette Brooke responded almost immediately after the New Year
 break,
 saying that she had forwarded my letter to Vince Cable.  It then went quiet
 for a while, until I got an email from her constituency office saying that
 the
 letter had gone to the Cabinet Office.  Here's part of what it said:

 'This is just to let you know that we have just heard from the Department
 of
 Business that Annetteā€™s letter of 10 January on your behalf, has been
 passed
 to the Cabinet Office.  BIS advised that the inordinate delay has been due
 to
 waiting for the Cabinet Office to accept the case.  I am very sorry about
 this.'

 Today, I received via Annette Brooke's constituency office, a letter from
 Francis Maude.  Unsurprisingly, he never answered my original question,
 which
 was effectively 'why did the Government reverse the perfectly adequate
 Policy
 on Open Standards in Government?'.  Instead he tells me all about the
 current
 consultation that is ongoing on Open Standards, which I was already well
 aware
 of because I participated in the preliminary survey last year.  This kind
 of
 response was only to be expected expected really.  You can't expect a
 straight
 answer out of a senior politician.

 Anyway, can I encourage anyone who has an interest in this (and can spare
 the
 time), to go to http://consultation.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/openstandards/,
 download the Policy Document and respond to the consultancy?

 Remember, this is about Open Standards, not Open Source.  Even so, this
 country needs to adopt Open Standards in IT to prevent the kind of lock-in
 we've had for the last 20 years or so.

 Don't forget that if we don't participate, then the proprietary companies
 will
 prevail, because you can be sure they'll be responding.

 --
Terry Coles
64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2012-03-24 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday 24 Mar 2012 11:20:08 David Neylan wrote:
 Thanks for posting about this.  I am a West Dorset Kubuntu user and I have
 just joined your mailing list and I was totally unaware of the
 consultation.  After a quick read I realise that I need to know a lot more
 to make an informed response.

Welcome to the Group Dave.  In my original post on this, I mentioned that you 
should consider responding if  you have an interest in this (and can spare 
the time).  I'm now about halfway through the consultation document and have 
to say it seems to be saying the right kind of things.  However, it is over 30 
pages (including the questions and response form), so there is an investment 
needed.

 I was unable to come to the last meeting in Bournemouth and was wondering
 when or if there could be a meeting in Dorchester/Weymouth or Bridport as
 there are a number of us Linux users over this way.
 A meeting could be a good way of coordinating a response to the
 consultation. I have no great faith in consultations but I know the outcome
 of not responding.

We used to meet on alternate months in Dorchester, when we had a fairly large 
contingent from Weymouth, Bridport and round about.  Recently however, only 
Ralph turned up regularly from the Dorchester area, so we switched to 
alternating with Blandford.  That was good for a while, but then we had a 
couple of meetings that only attracted about three of us, so we moved 
permanently to Bournemouth, where we generally get a good turn-out.

If you can get enough support for returning to Dorchester, then I suspect we 
could resurrect the alternating scheme.

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Terry Coles
64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Cabinet Office Ditches Open Standards in IT

2012-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins


Terry

From what I can make out - the pressure for further consultation on Open 
Standards actually originated in part from BIS (Vince Cable's Dept) if this is 
correct:

http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2012/01/microsoft-hustled-uk-retreat-o.html


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[Dorset] OSSG/HMG Open Source Awareness Events

2012-03-24 Thread Mark Elkins


This might be of interest 
http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14680 in that at the very 
least it shows HMG is taking Open Source seriously.

Just in case anyone gets the wrong idea I wasn't posting this as an exercise in 
self-gratification. The reason is to spread awareness that these events are 
happening.

Mark Elkins
Chair
OSSG http://ossg.bcs.org/
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