Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry,

> I have reformatted the drives in-situ

The NAS offered a `reformat'?  How long did it take?

> My PC is in the bedroom, so I'd rather not run it overnight.

Kill it off then start from scratch tomorrow morning, assuming ten hours
for a disk?

> I suspect that part of the problem is that I'm putting the drive into
> an external USB adaptor, but my PC has no spare slots for other
> drives.

Yep.

Drives have an internal `erase' method, but over USB probably isn't a
good way to play with it.
https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase

Re-assemble the NAS, see the empty (mirrored?) drives, copy innocuous
stuff onto it over and over until `full'.  `Erase' again for sale?

Cheers, Ralph.

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Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Hamish MB
For modern drives a single pass with zeros is usually just fine. You can use dd 
if=/dev/zero of=/Dev/sdxy

You could copy from /Dev/urandom for a quicker random number pass too.

Hamish
On 17 Feb 2018, at 18:38, Keith Edmunds 
mailto:k...@midnighthax.com>> wrote:

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:31:53 +, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk said:

 I'd be happier if there was no chance of data recovery.

Then destroy the drives.
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Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:36:34 GMT Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:31:53 +, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk said:
> > I'd be happier if there was no chance of data recovery.
> 
> Then destroy the drives.

I want to sell them with the NAS Box.

I do know about hammers :-)

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Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Keith Edmunds
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 18:31:53 +, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk said:

> I'd be happier if there was no chance of data recovery.

Then destroy the drives.
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Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Terry Coles
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:56:45 GMT Keith Edmunds wrote:
> Shred is slow. No one will trivially read the ex-data following a
> reformat. I suppose if the drive used to hold your plans for world
> domination, a few more hours of shred is a small price to pay. However,
> if the drive only held data of interest to you and you don't want the PC
> running overnight, don't worry about it.

I'm sure you are right, but the NAS Box was used to back up four different PCs 
and I'm not sure what was there.  My two machines were both Linux and I only 
backed up the /home partition.  Even so, there could be stuff that might give 
passwords away etc.

The other two PCs were both Windows machines (son and daughter's) and they 
both tended to back up the whole of their 'C'-Drives, so it's anyone's guess 
what might be buried in the Registry.

I'd be happier if there was no chance of data recovery.

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Re: [Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Keith Edmunds
Shred is slow. No one will trivially read the ex-data following a
reformat. I suppose if the drive used to hold your plans for world
domination, a few more hours of shred is a small price to pay. However,
if the drive only held data of interest to you and you don't want the PC
running overnight, don't worry about it.
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[Dorset] Using shred

2018-02-17 Thread Terry Coles
Hi,

I am retiring my old D-Link Sharecenter NAS with a view to flogging it on eBay. 
 Clearly, I 
want to ensure the data has been completely scrubbed off the two 1TB drives.

I have reformatted the drives in-situ, but felt that I should do more than 
that, so I've 
removed the drives and am currently running shred on the first, using :

   sudo shred -f -v /dev/sdc

The trouble is that the whole thing is so slw!  I'm currently at 10% on the 
first pass 
after an hour.  At that rate the first pass won't be completed until 3 am 
tomorrow and the 
third pass sometime tomorrow evening!  My PC is in the bedroom, so I'd rather 
not run it 
overnight.

I suspect that part of the problem is that I'm putting the drive into an 
external USB 
adaptor, but my PC has no spare slots for other drives.

Any suggestions?

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