Re: [Dorset] Inconsistent mounting

2023-01-08 Thread Tim
Not sure why I did not do this earlier, I ran Smartmon test,  I can run 
the two minute test with no problems found, try running the extended 
test and it always aborts at the 10% mark and when I look at the results 
there are 8 pre fails in the results. So I am going to bite the bullets 
and spend my Christmas money on a new USB SSD drive.


Thanks you the help and advice


Regards


Tim H


On 07/01/2023 20:44, Tim wrote:


On 07/01/2023 12:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Tim H,


I have an external USB drive

Is it spinning rust, which could be slow to spin up, perhaps more so if
all power comes from USB?



Old style spinney disk with single usb Lead connected to the (powered) 
docking station






[E] Can't find snapshots folder.
If it is on a removable drive, please plug it in.
Waiting 30 seconds.

What happens after it waits thirty seconds for the already-mounted
drive?

Is there anything in the kernel's ring buffer around that time?

 sudo -i dmesg -Hx



The backup failed again tonight, ran the above command which did not 
list anything relevant for the time that the backup ran (all UFW Block 
entries)






If I check my backup drive it says it is mounted and if I open the
drive (clicking the icon on the desktop) it will display the folders
and start the backup

So the back-up program starts without intervention.  Instead of clicking
on the icon, because who knows what that's doing, do something simpler
like

 ls /media/backup/.../snapshots


In the 30 seconds it gives you to "reconnect" the drive I ran the 
above command which gave the following


mit@NX1:~$ ls /media/backup/backintime/NX1/root/1/last_snapshot/
backup  config  fileinfo.bz2  info  takesnapshot.log.bz2

The backup then started.

I will have to leave the 30 second warning and do nothing to see what 
happens, but I think it just fails to run based on previous error I 
have seen when it has not run






Any suggestion

dmesg is your best next step, I'd have thought.



Will investigate




Do you need the drive mounted all the time?  Could a cron job mount the
drive a minute before the scheduled backup and unmount it when it's
bound to have finished?  The theory being the just-mounted drive will be
up and running and ready to respond, not sleeping to save power.



As it only does the backups I guess i Could try mounting prior to the 
backup running. But it does not seem to be a mounting issue more 
something linked to letting the rest of the OS know it is mounted.



Thanks for the input


Tim H



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Re: [Dorset] Inconsistent mounting

2023-01-07 Thread Tim


On 07/01/2023 12:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Tim H,


I have an external USB drive

Is it spinning rust, which could be slow to spin up, perhaps more so if
all power comes from USB?



Old style spinney disk with single usb Lead connected to the (powered) 
docking station






[E] Can't find snapshots folder.
If it is on a removable drive, please plug it in.
Waiting 30 seconds.

What happens after it waits thirty seconds for the already-mounted
drive?

Is there anything in the kernel's ring buffer around that time?

 sudo -i dmesg -Hx



The backup failed again tonight, ran the above command which did not 
list anything relevant for the time that the backup ran (all UFW Block 
entries)






If I check my backup drive it says it is mounted and if I open the
drive (clicking the icon on the desktop) it will display the folders
and start the backup

So the back-up program starts without intervention.  Instead of clicking
on the icon, because who knows what that's doing, do something simpler
like

 ls /media/backup/.../snapshots


In the 30 seconds it gives you to "reconnect" the drive I ran the above 
command which gave the following


mit@NX1:~$ ls /media/backup/backintime/NX1/root/1/last_snapshot/
backup  config  fileinfo.bz2  info  takesnapshot.log.bz2

The backup then started.

I will have to leave the 30 second warning and do nothing to see what 
happens, but I think it just fails to run based on previous error I have 
seen when it has not run






Any suggestion

dmesg is your best next step, I'd have thought.



Will investigate




Do you need the drive mounted all the time?  Could a cron job mount the
drive a minute before the scheduled backup and unmount it when it's
bound to have finished?  The theory being the just-mounted drive will be
up and running and ready to respond, not sleeping to save power.



As it only does the backups I guess i Could try mounting prior to the 
backup running. But it does not seem to be a mounting issue more 
something linked to letting the rest of the OS know it is mounted.



Thanks for the input


Tim H


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Re: [Dorset] Inconsistent mounting

2023-01-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Tim H,

> I have an external USB drive

Is it spinning rust, which could be slow to spin up, perhaps more so if
all power comes from USB?

> [E] Can't find snapshots folder.
> If it is on a removable drive, please plug it in.
> Waiting 30 seconds.

What happens after it waits thirty seconds for the already-mounted
drive?

Is there anything in the kernel's ring buffer around that time?

sudo -i dmesg -Hx

> If I check my backup drive it says it is mounted and if I open the
> drive (clicking the icon on the desktop) it will display the folders
> and start the backup

So the back-up program starts without intervention.  Instead of clicking
on the icon, because who knows what that's doing, do something simpler
like

ls /media/backup/.../snapshots

> Any suggestion

dmesg is your best next step, I'd have thought.

Do you need the drive mounted all the time?  Could a cron job mount the
drive a minute before the scheduled backup and unmount it when it's
bound to have finished?  The theory being the just-mounted drive will be
up and running and ready to respond, not sleeping to save power.

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Cheers, Ralph.

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[Dorset] Inconsistent mounting

2023-01-06 Thread Tim

Hi

I am running Linux Mint 21.1 XFCE desktop on an IBM laptop with a 
docking station (IBM, specific for laptop model range)


I have an external USB drive which I use to backup to and is mounted via 
a line in fstab at bootup


UUID=d90c0c04-8484-453f-9286-ab5e40cfe62f /media/backup    ext4    
rw,errors=remount-ro    0   0


I use Backintime to do my backups, it is schedule to run daily, one 
problem is that sometimes it complains that it can not find the snapshot


[E] Can't find snapshots folder.
If it is on a removable drive, please plug it in.
Waiting 30 seconds.

If I check my backup drive it says it is mounted and if I open the drive 
(clicking the icon on the desktop) it will display the folders and start 
the backup


Here are the permission for the mount point

mit@NX1:~$ ls -l /media
total 16
drwxr-xr-x  4 mit  mit  4096 Aug 31  2020 backup
drwxr-x---+ 3 root root 4096 Dec 29 07:04 mit
drwxr-xr-x  2 mit  mit  4096 Jun 20  2021 nas
drwxr-xr-x  3 mit  mit  4096 Jan  1 21:57 spare

I have not been able to find any pattern to how often it will miss the 
snapshot


Any suggestion

Tim H
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