Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Perhaps I will try again then, it probably just was me being a doofus :) On 21/01/2020 12:18, Terry Coles wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 10:15:24 GMT Hamish MB wrote: >> Somehow I've never managed to get email filters to work. I've tried in >> Thunderbird and with my providers (Outlook and Google) various times >> over the years, and they never really seemed to do anything. I'm >> probably just being a doofus, but has anyone else had this? > All my filters work fine in KMail. The only problems that I (frequently) > have is > when *I'm *being a doofus and forget the other settings that are current in > the > target folder. > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Further to this and perhaps helping Terry. I've now added a filter to_move_ all emails from the main folder into a separate folder under 'Local Folders' and it appears to work 95% of the time. Only 1 email from my son will 'not be moved', but all others are. So at moment all emails under the 'Cinfo', Clive' & 'family' addresses are stored under the 'Local Folder' and from our previous tests are now on my laptop; so, should be safe when moving the domain to a new cPanel. Not checked that nothing is on the Web Mail Server yet. If this is OK after several days I'll do the same on the other PC for me and Lily; then get the cPanel activated (with fingers crossed!). Don't know if any of this is of help to Terry, but nice to know. Running Mint 19.2 & Thunderbird (with Lightning calender). C A Wills On 19/01/2020 16:32, peter Merchant via dorset wrote: If you never hear from him again, it didn't work. If successful, he could move the emails back from the holding folder to the inbox (Copy, not move!) Copy or move? Is there some reason he'd prefer those few emails to reside on the new server rather than sit on his own Localhost machine with the others? I only said 'copy' as a precaution in case it didn't work. P. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
If you never hear from him again, it didn't work. If successful, he could move the emails back from the holding folder to the inbox (Copy, not move!) Copy or move? Is there some reason he'd prefer those few emails to reside on the new server rather than sit on his own Localhost machine with the others? I only said 'copy' as a precaution in case it didn't work. P. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Hi Peter, > He has four email addresses on this domain name, but we have just been > working with one. > > Smartly, Clive has Thunderbird filters set up to move many emails to > Folders on localhost. We had both webmail (old Supplier) and T-bird > up and emails in Localhost are not on Webmail. So that sounds like most emails are downloaded from the old server and then deleted on that server. > We proved to ourselves that emails deleted from either webmail or > T-bird were very quickly deleted from the other. That must refer to the non-Localhost emails, the ones that have been left on the old server. You're viewing those in two ways simultaneously, webmail and T'bird, and they each adjust to changes made by the other. > There are very few emails in the T-Bird inbox, so Clive is going to > move these to a Localhost holding folder. Those few emails aren't captured by the existing T'bird filters so remain on the old server; they're going to be manually refiled, removing them from the server. > Then he will go into server settings for this account and try and set > it to the new companies values. That will access the new server. Presumably, the company has or will arrange for emails to Clive's domain to arrive there instead of the old server. That may or may not need a DNS update to the MX record and that should easily propagate within a day. > If you never hear from him again, it didn't work. If successful, he > could move the emails back from the holding folder to the inbox (Copy, > not move!) Copy or move? Is there some reason he'd prefer those few emails to reside on the new server rather than sit on his own Localhost machine with the others? -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Clive's situation is that he has an account with one email/domain name supplier that has been bought out by another and now some of his emails don't get through anymore. The new supplier has given him a c-panel to access their facilities. It seems that they do not intend to really support the company that they bought, or migrate stuff over to their own system. He has four email addresses on this domain name, but we have just been working with one. Smartly, Clive has Thunderbird filters set up to move many emails to Folders on localhost. We had both webmail (old Supplier) and T-bird up and emails in Localhost are not on Webmail. We proved to ourselves that emails deleted from either webmail or T-bird were very quickly deleted from the other. There are very few emails in the T-Bird inbox, so Clive is going to move these to a Localhost holding folder. Then he will go into server settings for this account and try and set it to the new companies values. If you never hear from him again, it didn't work. If successful, he could move the emails back from the holding folder to the inbox (Copy, not move!) Peter On 15/01/2020 17:17, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, A Thunderbird question; I've not used it. Thunderbird is happily fetching mail from a POP3 account. The supplier of the account is going to start storing emails sent to the account on a new server to be accessed at a different domain name, etc. They'll stop storing emails on the old server. Can Thunderbird be told there's a second POP3 account to check for email whilst continuing to access the first? With emails from both effectively merging together in the one inbox? This would avoid the need to synchronise Thunderbird's switch-over with the supplier. Any alternative methods better suited to Thunderbird? -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
On 15/01/2020 17:30, t...@ls83.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi Ralph On 15/01/2020 17:17, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, A Thunderbird question; I've not used it. Thunderbird is happily fetching mail from a POP3 account. The supplier of the account is going to start storing emails sent to the account on a new server to be accessed at a different domain name, etc. They'll stop storing emails on the old server. Can Thunderbird be told there's a second POP3 account to check for email whilst continuing to access the first? With emails from both effectively merging together in the one inbox? This would avoid the need to synchronise Thunderbird's switch-over with the supplier. I've only used TB for IMAP, and you can certainly have multiple accounts. It looks like this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unify-your-pop-email-accounts-global-inbox answers your exact question. Cheers Tim Interesting. I collect emails from 4 accounts with Thunderbird, and each is kept separate as in the initial diagram on the link. I looked at the server settings for each and this feature of unifying the accounts is only available on the Pop accounts, not on the IMAP ones. That is to be expected of course. One feature(?) that I use if the filtering of emails received in one account can be stored in folders for another account. I know that this works But wonder if it is valid for both Pop and IMap mails as I haven't gone through all my filters to check. Peter (had a quick look at filters and boy do I need to go through them and tidy up) -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Hi, Thanks for the answers, on and off-list. Tim (tda) wrote: > I've only used TB for IMAP, and you can certainly have multiple > accounts. It looks like this > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unify-your-pop-email-accounts-global-inbox > answers your exact question. Okay, so it looks like there's more-than one way to do it what with this and refiling emails between accounts to mop up after the switch. -- Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
Hi Ralph On 15/01/2020 17:17, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, A Thunderbird question; I've not used it. Thunderbird is happily fetching mail from a POP3 account. The supplier of the account is going to start storing emails sent to the account on a new server to be accessed at a different domain name, etc. They'll stop storing emails on the old server. Can Thunderbird be told there's a second POP3 account to check for email whilst continuing to access the first? With emails from both effectively merging together in the one inbox? This would avoid the need to synchronise Thunderbird's switch-over with the supplier. I've only used TB for IMAP, and you can certainly have multiple accounts. It looks like this https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/unify-your-pop-email-accounts-global-inbox answers your exact question. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Re: [Dorset] Moving POP3 Suppliers with Thunderbird.
On 2020-01-15 17:17, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi, A Thunderbird question; I've not used it. Thunderbird is happily fetching mail from a POP3 account. The supplier of the account is going to start storing emails sent to the account on a new server to be accessed at a different domain name, etc. They'll stop storing emails on the old server. Can Thunderbird be told there's a second POP3 account to check for email whilst continuing to access the first? With emails from both effectively merging together in the one inbox? This would avoid the need to synchronise Thunderbird's switch-over with the supplier. Any alternative methods better suited to Thunderbird? -- Cheers, Ralph. Could you not setup Thunderbird to access the email accounts A & B separately but then use the Thunderbird filtering to move emails coming from account B into the account folders of account A?? just set up a quick filter on the wife Thunderbird and manually ran it and it moved the email from one account to the sub folder on another email account. Unable to test further as I was to get of her PC!! Tim H -- Next meeting: BEC, Bournemouth, Tuesday, 2020-02-04 20:00 Check to whom you are replying Meetings, mailing list, IRC, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread, don't hijack: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
