Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On 2012-09-05 10:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: He'd already checked the server logs, posted some of them, and found no useful information. Checking the client log is the next logical step, whether it turns out to contain useful information or not. In a client/server application, instructing someone to only check half the logs is bad advice Charles. Useful troubleshooting information can be found in either, or both, depending on the circumstances and operation that's failing. That's what I get for replying in the middle of a thread without reading the whole thing... sorry... Been really busy at $dayjob, and haven't had time to read the lists I'm on for a couple of weeks now. And I didn't advise him to *only* check half the logs, I thought he was *starting out* with the client logs. Of course you're correct that once he'd determined that no auth attempts were happening, checking the client side is the next logical step. But then someone else suggested that it was just because Thunderbird was crapware, which is just plain stupid. If Thunderbird isn't AUTH'ing, it is a config (thus, user) error. -- Best regards, Charles
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
Turn on more debugging with these in your configuration: auth_verbose = yes auth_debug = yes auth_debug_passwords = yes mail_debug = yes verbose_ssl= yes and then check the server logs after trying to login. Also, I'm curious why you masked your PRIVATE ip address and not your public one. Bill On 9/4/2012 12:21 AM, cc young wrote: cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx -- View this message in context: http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-connecting-tp37389.html Sent from the Dovecot mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.comwrote: On 9/3/2012 11:21 PM, cc young wrote: cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx What does TB activity manager say? Activity Manager is blank as an update, went to Claws email client. it had enough feedback and gave me enough ways to tweak - got everything going. went back to TB. recognized server, but no username/password. perhaps it's not letting the full email - which is the user name - through. but who knows? no feedback.
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On 2012-09-05 6:23 AM, cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Stan Hoeppners...@hardwarefreak.comwrote: What does TB activity manager say? Activity Manager is blank as an update, went to Claws email client. it had enough feedback and gave me enough ways to tweak - got everything going. went back to TB. recognized server, but no username/password. perhaps it's not letting the full email - which is the user name - through. but who knows? no feedback. You're looking at the wrong end. You need to be looking at your SERVER logs, not the Clients. -- Best regards, Charles
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.comwrote: On 2012-09-05 6:23 AM, cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Stan Hoeppnerstan@hardwarefreak.**coms...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: What does TB activity manager say? Activity Manager is blank as an update, went to Claws email client. it had enough feedback and gave me enough ways to tweak - got everything going. went back to TB. recognized server, but no username/password. perhaps it's not letting the full email - which is the user name - through. but who knows? no feedback. You're looking at the wrong end. You need to be looking at your SERVER logs, not the Clients. yes, you are right. will get back.
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Charles Marcus wrote On 2012-09-05 6:23 AM, cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Stan Hoeppners...@hardwarefreak.comwrote: What does TB activity manager say? Activity Manager is blank as an update, went to Claws email client. it had enough feedback and gave me enough ways to tweak - got everything going. went back to TB. recognized server, but no username/password. perhaps it's not letting the full email - which is the user name - through. but who knows? no feedback. You're looking at the wrong end. You need to be looking at your SERVER logs, not the Clients. Actually, I think he did supply that and it showed imap and pop3 not getting any auth information. dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx There are other log options to verbosely log auth and ssl information, and that might help. I frequently see the above log messages when the client and the server get their security protocol (SSL/TLS) and ports crossed up (i.e. trying IMAP/SSL on port 143 or trying IMAP/TLS on port 993). Try fiddling with TB's setting here and see if anything shakes loose. You can also use openssl and simulate the server end and maybe that will shed light on the situation: (You'll have to read the man page yourself to find all the options) openssl s_server -accept 993 ... Joseph Tam jtam.h...@gmail.com
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On 9/5/2012 6:02 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2012-09-05 6:23 AM, cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Stan Hoeppners...@hardwarefreak.comwrote: What does TB activity manager say? Activity Manager is blank as an update, went to Claws email client. it had enough feedback and gave me enough ways to tweak - got everything going. went back to TB. recognized server, but no username/password. perhaps it's not letting the full email - which is the user name - through. but who knows? no feedback. You're looking at the wrong end. You need to be looking at your SERVER logs, not the Clients. He'd already checked the server logs, posted some of them, and found no useful information. Checking the client log is the next logical step, whether it turns out to contain useful information or not. In a client/server application, instructing someone to only check half the logs is bad advice Charles. Useful troubleshooting information can be found in either, or both, depending on the circumstances and operation that's failing. -- Stan
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
- Original Message - From: cc young bangkokm...@gmail.com To: dovecot@dovecot.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012, 7:21 Subject: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx -- View this message in context: http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-connecting-tp37389.html Sent from the Dovecot mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Thunderbird is not the best of clients out there. It's ok but not the best. I am using TB on my sites and found out that it has many issues. Can you be a bit more specific ? Are you trying to connect to Secure IMAP ? (993) on dovecot ? In that case, as far as I remember you have to fool Thunderbird during the mail account set up process. It's a bit crazy, I know but it's true. I have documented everything. Let me know where the hickup is and I'll try to get the docs and let you know how to work around this. HTH, s. I merely function as a channel that filters music through the chaos of noise - Vangelis
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
From: cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com To: Spyros Tsiolis sts...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012, 9:42 Subject: Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Spyros Tsiolis sts...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: - Original Message - From: cc young bangkokm...@gmail.com To: dovecot@dovecot.org Cc: Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012, 7:21 Subject: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx -- View this message in context: http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-connecting-tp37389.html Sent from the Dovecot mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Thunderbird is not the best of clients out there. It's ok but not the best. I am using TB on my sites and found out that it has many issues. Can you be a bit more specific ? Are you trying to connect to Secure IMAP ? (993) on dovecot ? In that case, as far as I remember you have to fool Thunderbird during the mail account set up process. It's a bit crazy, I know but it's true. I have documented everything. Let me know where the hickup is and I'll try to get the docs and let you know how to work around this. HTH, right - trying to connect to Secure IMAP ? (993) on dovecot not in love with thunderbird, but need to access via linux and ms any help / insight would be wonderful Hi again, Taken from my docs . This is the first part for Mozilla Thunderbird setup. I've seen this work both on Win32 systems and linux systems (mainly Linux Mint). There's a part on pop3/smtp. I am sure you can skip that and do your own magic for those two protocols : Pre-Installation, Wizard Configuration -- During initial Thunderbird startup, the admin is greeted by a welcome window named “Mail Account Setup” Click on Cancel Installation Click on “Edit” - “Account Settings” New window pops up Click on “Add” New window pops up Fill in “Description” (e.g. “Name Surname mailbox”) On “Server Name” enter the IP address (e.g. 192.168.3.5) On “Port” enter the SMTP port (e.g. 25) On “Security and Authentication” → “Connection Security” enter none On “Authentication Method” choose Password transmitted insecurely On “Username” enter the users' username including the FQDN (e.g. n...@domain.gr) Click on OK From “Edit”, click on “Account Settings” From “Account Actions” click on “Add Mail Account” New windows pops up Enter in the same name for “Your name” Enter in the same e-mail address for “Email address” On “Password” enter in users' password Click on “Continue” then without waiting click on “Manual Config” Once “Manual Config” is clicked, thunderbird will allow the admin to perform additional configuration tasks For “Incoming” the admin will choose “IMAP”, Server Hostname will be set to the servers' IP address (again, 192.168.3.5) From “Port” choose “993” From “SSL” choose “SSL/TLS” From “Authentication” choose “Autodetect” For “Outgoing” the admin will let the “SMTP” option For “Server Hostname”, choose the same IP address (e.g. 192.168.3.5) For “Port” choose “25” For “SSL” choose “None” For “Authentication” choose “Normal Password” On the Username field, enter the full user name, e.g. “u...@domain.gr” Click on “Re-test” Click on “Create Account” Check on the “I understand the Risks” checkbox Click on “Create Account” Click on “Confirm Security Exception” Click on “OK” Hope this helps and best regards, Spyros I merely function as a channel that filters music through the chaos of noise - Vangelis
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
From: cc maco young bangkokm...@gmail.com To: Spyros Tsiolis sts...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Tuesday, 4 September 2012, 16:00 Subject: Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Spyros Tsiolis sts...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: . . . . % . . . . . % . . . . . . . . what you showed is what I remember when I was last hacking in TB. now all options are gone. screenshot attached think I know problem. got tired of TB - no options, no feedback. ok if everything works; otherwise sucks. went to claws. they have actual messages, actual logs. had similar problem, but claws easily allowed me to override. see this: http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2199 know my cert chain ok because http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html checks chain ok anyway, thanks for your help, and goodbye thunderbird I remember being stuck on this. I know what you are saying. Give it another go. Tinker with it. You'll get there. If you're fed up with TB, that's another thing. However, you _can_ get round this. I know I did. Just my 2c, Regards, spyros I merely function as a channel that filters music through the chaos of noise - Vangelis
Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
On 9/3/2012 11:21 PM, cc young wrote: cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx What does TB activity manager say? -- Stan
[Dovecot] thunderbird not connecting
cannot get TB to recognize either pop3/s or imap/s server can connect just fine with: openssl s_client -connect ms1.myserver.net:993 . login ... but trying with TB /var/log/mail.log gets: dovecot: pop3-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx dovecot: imap-login: Aborted login (no auth attempts): rip=223.205.150.234, lip=xxx.xx.xx.xx -- View this message in context: http://dovecot.2317879.n4.nabble.com/thunderbird-not-connecting-tp37389.html Sent from the Dovecot mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
