Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
On 14 Feb 2020, at 10:59, Peter wrote: On 14/02/20 10:10 pm, Tobias Kirchhofer wrote: would it be useful/advisable to use this repo for productive operation? An official repo is still not available for CentOS 8 https://repo.dovecot.org/ We would like to set up our new mail server on CentOS 8 and are waiting… :) What is your advice? As others have mentioned there are missing -devel packages in CentOS 8, which is because there are missing -devel packages in RHEL 8, most notably in this case is quota-devel. tcp wrappers is also missing but that's because they are deprecated in CentOS 8 so building without tcp wrapper support is not a big deal, but I would assume that a lot of people will want quota support, so I wouldn't want to build a dovecot package without it. Personally I'm trying to get the GhettoForge build system modified so it can get missing -devel packages by rebuilding the source rpms for them, this is a work in progress. There is also work on the CentOS side to build and offer up the missing -devel packages. At the end of the day nobody will be able to build decent dovecot packages until one of these things happens. For now you can use the stock dovecot 2.2.36 that comes with CentOS or you can wait. CentOS and Red Hat have not made this easy so it is going to take time. Okay, will try 2.2.36. Our protoype is on Debian 10 with the latest Dovecot. Don’t know yet if we rely on features from the latest version. Will see. Thank you. Also on a personal note, I think that pushing out any production server on CentOS 8 at this time is premature. CentOS 8 simply is not ready yet, imo. We have CentOS 8.1 VMs productive with either of nginx, PostgreSQL, MariaDB, Node.js. No problems so far. Cross your fingers! :-) Peter -- collect@shift.agency
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
On 14/02/20 10:10 pm, Tobias Kirchhofer wrote: would it be useful/advisable to use this repo for productive operation? An official repo is still not available for CentOS 8 https://repo.dovecot.org/ We would like to set up our new mail server on CentOS 8 and are waiting… :) What is your advice? As others have mentioned there are missing -devel packages in CentOS 8, which is because there are missing -devel packages in RHEL 8, most notably in this case is quota-devel. tcp wrappers is also missing but that's because they are deprecated in CentOS 8 so building without tcp wrapper support is not a big deal, but I would assume that a lot of people will want quota support, so I wouldn't want to build a dovecot package without it. Personally I'm trying to get the GhettoForge build system modified so it can get missing -devel packages by rebuilding the source rpms for them, this is a work in progress. There is also work on the CentOS side to build and offer up the missing -devel packages. At the end of the day nobody will be able to build decent dovecot packages until one of these things happens. For now you can use the stock dovecot 2.2.36 that comes with CentOS or you can wait. CentOS and Red Hat have not made this easy so it is going to take time. Also on a personal note, I think that pushing out any production server on CentOS 8 at this time is premature. CentOS 8 simply is not ready yet, imo. Peter
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
Hi Filip, On 12 Dec 2019, at 12:01, fil...@centrum.cz wrote: > Hello, > I have builded some dovecot packages for CentOS 8 in my personal > repository: > http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/x86_64/ > and SRPMS are in > http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/SRPMS/ > > I you want you can try it. > > With best regards, > Filip Bartmann would it be useful/advisable to use this repo for productive operation? An official repo is still not available for CentOS 8 https://repo.dovecot.org/ We would like to set up our new mail server on CentOS 8 and are waiting… :) What is your advice? Tobias > On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:31:45 +0200 > Reio Remma wrote: > >> On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: Hello! Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? Thanks, Reio >>> (sorry for duplicate, user error in earlier one...) >>> >>> Yes. There are plans for the repo, unfortunately there are still >>> technical problems due to how CentOS8 repositories are organized. >>> But soon. >>> >>> Aki >> >> I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some >> notable required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed >> to rebuild by switching these off in the spec file >> (--without-libwrap), but that's probably not a good idea. :) >> >> Reio -- collect@shift.agency
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
Agree > Il giorno 12 dic 2019, alle ore 10:47, Alexander Dalloz > ha scritto: > > Am 12.12.2019 um 11:31 schrieb Reio Remma: >> On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: >> >> [ ... ] >> >> I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some notable >> required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed to rebuild by >> switching these off in the spec file (--without-libwrap), but that's >> probably not a good idea. :) >> Reio > > TCP wrappers got dropped for RHEL 8 by purpose, following that step of fedora. > > https://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Deprecate_TCP_wrappers > > There is no real need nowadays and from my experience not many admins make > use of it. > > Alexander
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
Am 12.12.2019 um 11:31 schrieb Reio Remma: On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: [ ... ] I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some notable required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed to rebuild by switching these off in the spec file (--without-libwrap), but that's probably not a good idea. :) Reio TCP wrappers got dropped for RHEL 8 by purpose, following that step of fedora. https://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Deprecate_TCP_wrappers There is no real need nowadays and from my experience not many admins make use of it. Alexander
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
On 12/12/2019 13:01, fil...@centrum.cz wrote: Hello, I have builded some dovecot packages for CentOS 8 in my personal repository: http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/x86_64/ and SRPMS are in http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/SRPMS/ I you want you can try it. With best regards, Filip Bartmann Thanks! Will have a look. :) Reio On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:31:45 +0200 Reio Remma wrote: On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: Hello! Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? Thanks, Reio (sorry for duplicate, user error in earlier one...) Yes. There are plans for the repo, unfortunately there are still technical problems due to how CentOS8 repositories are organized. But soon. Aki I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some notable required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed to rebuild by switching these off in the spec file (--without-libwrap), but that's probably not a good idea. :) Reio -- Tervitades Reio Remma MR Stuudio 25 aastat *MR Stuudio OÜ* Tondi 17b, 11316, Tallinn Tel +372 650 4808 Mob +372 56 22 00 33 r...@mrstuudio.ee www.mrstuudio.ee
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
Hello, I have builded some dovecot packages for CentOS 8 in my personal repository: http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/x86_64/ and SRPMS are in http://repo.joomhosting.eu/centos/8/SRPMS/ I you want you can try it. With best regards, Filip Bartmann On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:31:45 +0200 Reio Remma wrote: > On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > >> On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello! > >> > >> Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Reio > > (sorry for duplicate, user error in earlier one...) > > > > Yes. There are plans for the repo, unfortunately there are still > > technical problems due to how CentOS8 repositories are organized. > > But soon. > > > > Aki > > I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some > notable required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed > to rebuild by switching these off in the spec file > (--without-libwrap), but that's probably not a good idea. :) > > Reio
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
On 09/12/2019 17:25, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: Hello! Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? Thanks, Reio (sorry for duplicate, user error in earlier one...) Yes. There are plans for the repo, unfortunately there are still technical problems due to how CentOS8 repositories are organized. But soon. Aki I tried rebuilding the RPM for CentOS 8 but I see it's missing some notable required packages like tcp wrappers and quota-devel. Managed to rebuild by switching these off in the spec file (--without-libwrap), but that's probably not a good idea. :) Reio
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
> On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: > > > Hello! > > Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? > > Thanks, > Reio (sorry for duplicate, user error in earlier one...) Yes. There are plans for the repo, unfortunately there are still technical problems due to how CentOS8 repositories are organized. But soon. Aki
Re: Dovecot 2.3 repo for CentOS 8.
> On 09/12/2019 17:20 Reio Remma via dovecot wrote: > > > Hello! > > Are there any plans for an official Dovecot repo for CentOS 8? > > Thanks, > Reio
