Re: [drakelist] Bug

2007-10-22 Thread Bill Horne


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Thom,

You can get good deals on Standard Vibroplex units so long as you're 
not looking for a collector's item. Hamfests are the best bet, with Ebay 
a distant second.


BTW, Vibroplex still sells the Original for $180.00, so that's a good 
point of comparison for used bugs. FYI, Vibroplex still sells parts for 
most units too.


73, Bill W1AC


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You might want to keep in mind that the Blue Racer really doesn't like 
to run under 20-25 wpm.  The Racer part of the name is not just 
hype!!  :-)


Yeah, it's possible to slow it with a Bug Tamer, but it's really NOT 
a good bug below 20 wpm.


I have no idea what Thom's CW speed is, but if this is a first bug he 
won't be running 20+ wpm with it any time soon  :-)   A nice 
Original or Champion would be a much better bug to start with, not to 
mention considerably less expensive, barring an extremely lucky find.


And no, mine's not for sale either!

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B  C-Line Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com



Mahlon Haunschild wrote:


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Thom,

Suggest that you hold out for an original Vibroplex Blue Racer Deluxe 
(has the cut-down baseplate and also cut-down frame pieces; looks 
really cute  takes up less desk space than its full-size brethren).


No, sorry, I'm not selling mine ;)

regards (and good luck),

Mahlon - K4OQ

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If anyone has a bug or sideswiper excess to their needs, please 
email me.





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[drakelist] 2B knobs fixed pics.

2007-10-22 Thread Jim F.

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Below, find two pictures of fixed Drake 2B knobs.

The knobs had a ring of rust where the chrome was
supposed to be.

I found some chrome washers at a hardware store and
superglued them on after first concentrating the rust
with some stuff from Walmart.

The pictures show a fixed next to an original knob
(on Rt.).

Purists may object, but I enjoy looking at the radio
while waiting to find some nice knobs :-)


http://www.geocities.com/j_fitton/trswitch/MVC-006E.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/j_fitton/trswitch/MVC-004E.JPG


jim / W1FMR

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Re: [drakelist] 2B knobs fixed pics.

2007-10-22 Thread Dennis Monticelli

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I am not a purist.  I like resourcefulness.


On 10/22/07, Jim F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 Below, find two pictures of fixed Drake 2B knobs.

 The knobs had a ring of rust where the chrome was
 supposed to be.

 I found some chrome washers at a hardware store and
 superglued them on after first concentrating the rust
 with some stuff from Walmart.

 The pictures show a fixed next to an original knob
 (on Rt.).

 Purists may object, but I enjoy looking at the radio
 while waiting to find some nice knobs :-)


 http://www.geocities.com/j_fitton/trswitch/MVC-006E.JPG

 http://www.geocities.com/j_fitton/trswitch/MVC-004E.JPG


 jim / W1FMR

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[drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Siegel

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My name is Jeff - KC2OBG, located in Port Washington, NY on the north shore
of Long Island. I'm a ham about 2 1/2 years and work almost exclusively CW
on 40m and 20m. (I'm also on the local 2m repeater but, heck, ya gotta
ragchew sometime.)  My current station is Icom equipment (706 MKIIG  751A).
I use a vibrokeyer (non-iambic) with the built-in electronic keyer in the
Icom rigs. Recently I've acquired a Drake R-4B and T-4XB. The question is,
what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter? While I will continue
to use the vibrokeyer my intention is to go with an iambic paddle in the
near future.
Any suggestions on a keyer?

73, Jeff



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Re: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Doug Smith

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On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 23:11 -0400, Jeff Siegel wrote:
 The question is,
 what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter? 

I have a 1960's era Hallicrafters TO Keyer with a Vibroplex Vibrokeyer
like yours.  And, a 1980's era Wm. Nye ESK-001 keyer that I use with a
Vibroplex Iambic key.  And, finally, a LogiKit (Idiom Press) CMOS-4
Keyer that I use with a Bencher BY-1 key.

All thee setups key my Drake T-4XC just fine!

73,
-Doug, W7KF



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RE: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Siegel

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Thanks for much for the info. 

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T-4XB



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On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 23:11 -0400, Jeff Siegel wrote:
 The question is,
 what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter? 

I have a 1960's era Hallicrafters TO Keyer with a Vibroplex Vibrokeyer
like yours.  And, a 1980's era Wm. Nye ESK-001 keyer that I use with a
Vibroplex Iambic key.  And, finally, a LogiKit (Idiom Press) CMOS-4
Keyer that I use with a Bencher BY-1 key.

All thee setups key my Drake T-4XC just fine!

73,
-Doug, W7KF



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RE: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Jeff Siegel

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Excellent! Thank you for the info.
 I saw a used keyer on QTH so I may go for it...cause I ain't using a
straight key (actually, it makes my carpal tunnel act up whereas the side to
side motion does not).

73, Jeff

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Jeff -

The Drake transmitters are all NEGATIVE voltage to ground, while most
modern transceivers are POSITIVE to ground.

Most keyers will key either, but may require changing an internal jumper
or switch, UNLESS they use hard relay contacts for keying.

The Drake key line is approximately -60 VDC, and only requires a few mA
to key.  So any relay would be fine, and just about all keyers with
transistor keying will handle it as long as the polarity is correct.

Personally I use the CMOS-4 from Idiom because it's one of the few that
I can turn off that stupid iambic junk that will drive any bug user
crazy!  :-)

73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 4-B  C-Line Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com



Jeff Siegel wrote:
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 My name is Jeff - KC2OBG, located in Port Washington, NY on the north
shore
 of Long Island. I'm a ham about 2 1/2 years and work almost exclusively CW
 on 40m and 20m. (I'm also on the local 2m repeater but, heck, ya gotta
 ragchew sometime.)  My current station is Icom equipment (706 MKIIG 
751A).
 I use a vibrokeyer (non-iambic) with the built-in electronic keyer in the
 Icom rigs. Recently I've acquired a Drake R-4B and T-4XB. The question is,
 what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter? While I will
continue
 to use the vibrokeyer my intention is to go with an iambic paddle in the
 near future.
 Any suggestions on a keyer?

 73, Jeff



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RE: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Duane Calvin

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I'm with Garey - I use the Logikey from Idiom also.  I have, in my shack,
the K1, K3 and K5.  I use the K3 with the Drake because it has two jacks on
the back, one for positive and one for negative keying.  It's easier than
the internal jumper.  Just FYI.  They also happen to be outstanding keyers
with 'forgiving' paddle inputs.  

73, Duane

Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas
www.ac5aa.com  
 

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Thanks for much for the info. 

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T-4XB



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On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 23:11 -0400, Jeff Siegel wrote:
 The question is,
 what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter? 

I have a 1960's era Hallicrafters TO Keyer with a Vibroplex Vibrokeyer
like yours.  And, a 1980's era Wm. Nye ESK-001 keyer that I use with a
Vibroplex Iambic key.  And, finally, a LogiKit (Idiom Press) CMOS-4
Keyer that I use with a Bencher BY-1 key.

All thee setups key my Drake T-4XC just fine!

73,
-Doug, W7KF



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Re: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Dennis Monticelli

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Take heed of the neg vs pos keying that Garey talked about and also
the absolute voltage.  The old Hallicrafters TO keyer with its mercury
wetted relay will key anything, even high current together with high
standoff voltage if you install the right RC snubber.

The Nye Viking ESK-001 is kind of hard to find but it features both
neg and pos (switchable from the rear panel) 300V transistor
switches, making it one of the few transistor keyers that can easily
handle both cathode keying and grid-block (like the Drakes).

I have both a TO and the ESK-001.

Be careful of the modern IC keyers on the market.  Many of them do not
handle neg keying and their max voltage is typically under 50V.  You
could always build a HV interface circuit if you wished.  I did and
use it with my low voltage keyers.

Denny AE6C

On 10/22/07, Duane Calvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 I'm with Garey - I use the Logikey from Idiom also.  I have, in my shack,
 the K1, K3 and K5.  I use the K3 with the Drake because it has two jacks on
 the back, one for positive and one for negative keying.  It's easier than
 the internal jumper.  Just FYI.  They also happen to be outstanding keyers
 with 'forgiving' paddle inputs.

 73, Duane

 Duane Calvin, AC5AA
 Austin, Texas
 www.ac5aa.com


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 Thanks for much for the info.

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 T-4XB



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 On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 23:11 -0400, Jeff Siegel wrote:
  The question is,
  what is a suitable keyer to use with the transmitter?

 I have a 1960's era Hallicrafters TO Keyer with a Vibroplex Vibrokeyer
 like yours.  And, a 1980's era Wm. Nye ESK-001 keyer that I use with a
 Vibroplex Iambic key.  And, finally, a LogiKit (Idiom Press) CMOS-4
 Keyer that I use with a Bencher BY-1 key.

 All thee setups key my Drake T-4XC just fine!

 73,
 -Doug, W7KF



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Re: [drakelist] An Introduction a question about keyer for T-4XB

2007-10-22 Thread Doug Smith

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On Mon, 2007-10-22 at 23:36 -0400, Garey Barrell wrote:
 Personally I use the CMOS-4 from Idiom because it's one of the few
 that 
 I can turn off that stupid iambic junk that will drive any bug user 
 crazy!  :-) 

I didn't know that!  I had to drag out the manual and check it out.

I used to be able to send good code with my W9TO keyer but bought a new
Nye keyer in the mid-1980s along with a Bencher Iambic key.  I never
learned how to use iambic mode and don't care about it.  However, I did
become accustomed to the dot and dash memory and now I can hardly send
without it -- especially below 25 wpm or so..  So, the TO keyer is not
getting much use anymore.  (But it looks *so* good with the Drake
4-Line!)

The Nye and the CMOS-4 both have dot / dash memory and the memory
function works even with a non-iambic key.  

With an iambic key connected to the CMOS-4, I don't find *any* mode that
is not iambic capable.  What V mode are you using?  Are you running V9
with no dot/dash memory?

And, more generally, what is the difference between Curtis, Accukeyer
and Logikey modes?  I've tried the various modes now and other than dot
and dash memory options I don't see much difference.  Man, I've been
pounding brass since '65 and I've got a lot to learn!

73,
-Doug, W7KF



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