Re: [Drakelist] R-4C PTO Hum

2011-07-06 Thread Paul Christensen

Garey,

Thanks for the tip.  I did check with John, but no luck.  However, I may 
have found an alternative.  Newark has Plastic Snap Rivets that may work.


http://www.newark.com/jsp/content/printCatalog.jsp?cat=catalog128page=2137display=single

I'll order a pack and try them.  Seems like missing chassis bumpers are a 
common problem after the receivers are repeatedly turned upside down for 
shop work.


Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Drakelist] R-4C Power Transformer Rotation

2011-07-06 Thread K9sqg
Mu metal can be found in some old TVs (not all), oscilloscopes, etc. at low to 
free prices...





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From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net
To: Drakelist group drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 7:26 am
Subject: [Drakelist] R-4C Power Transformer Rotation


As promised, here's my update concerning the R-4C power transformer and PTO 
modulation.  First a special thanks to Bill, W6FF for providing me with a NOS 
R-4C transformer.  Very much appreciated.  However, a rare occurrence of good 
fortune came to me.  It turns out that the existing R-4C transformer can be 
rotated 90 degrees and still have enough lead length on the transformer wiring 
to terminate the end points -- at least on my R-4C. Since transformer 
installation and wire termination was a manual process at Drake, exact lead 
lengths will differ.  That said, I had more than enough wire length to 
accomplish the task without having to try the NOS transformer.  In the links to 
images below, you can see the transformer after rotation as well as a ground 
lug added the PTO shield.  The addition of the lug was suggested by Rob 
Sherwood in his PowerPoint presentation.  He reasoned that the spade mounting 
forks do not always make good metal contact with the PTO frame to adequately 
allow for good PTO shielding -- although aluminum is a relatively ineffective 
shield against low frequency flux.  In his case, he was able to attain a 10 dB 
reduction in flux induction with the addition of the ground lug. 
 
http://72.52.250.47/images/R4C.jpg 
 
http://72.52.250.47/images/R4C-1.jpg 
 
The rotation worked.  At no point of VFO rotation can I detect PTO carrier 
modulation.  This is not to say that it is 100% eliminated.  A spectrum 
analyzer is needed to ensure absolute PTO oscillator purity.  However, any 
remaining level of induced flux has now dropped down to the point of being 
inaudible.  I'm saving my pennies for an HP 8591E spectrum analyzer w/ tracking 
generator.  Every time I save enough, temptation comes over me like it did last 
Thursday when I purchased a mint S/Line.  When I do obtain the SA, I plan on 
making more tests, including effects with Mu-metal shielding. I'm still looking 
for a source of authentic Mu-metal sheeting. 
 
I was also concerned about potential mechanical interference to the crystal 
calibrator board with the transformer rotated.  Good news again.  There's still 
ample room to insert/extract the calibrator board to/from its socket. No issues 
here. 
 
Transformer re-mounting:  Even more good news.  Unlike the R-4B transformer, 
the R-4C transformer mounting centers form a perfect square and the existing 
chassis holes are fine for mounting after rotation.  However, new chassis 
access holes ARE required for the transformer wiring.  I used a Greenlee 3/4 
chassis punch to form two new holes.  The chassis is still plenty strong after 
inclusion of the new holes, especially since the transformer mounting frame 
helps to ensure that the chassis remains rigid after bolt tightening. 
 
For anyone contemplating transformer rotation, it's a good idea to first pave 
the way for a chassis punch.  I temporarily removed the chassis fuse holder and 
AC line select switch.  This gave me all the room I needed without causing 
damage (and I'm good at causing damage to my gear in the shop).  Before removal 
of these two items, I drew a sketch to help remind me of wiring placement.  A 
quick snapshot with a digital camera is also a good idea. 
 
Paul, W9AC 
 
 
  
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[Drakelist] R4A AVC Question

2011-07-06 Thread rhulett1
With my R4A s/n 6759, have distortion of a sideband signal when RF gain control 
at maximum, AVC on fast.  CW signal is normal, and there is no distortion 
with the AVC off or on slow or with RF gain lower.  I'm recalling the AVC 
setup can be difficult to get right, appreciate any advice before beginning to 
work on this issue. 
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Re: [Drakelist] R-4C Cabinet Bumpers

2011-07-06 Thread wmacleod2

To Add to Paul's Request I am also looking for several bumper replacements.
I have not found a source for these as of yet and would appreciate any advice 
from the group.
Thank-you
Wade, VA3HM



 From: w...@arrl.net
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 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:56:33 -0400
 Subject: [Drakelist] R-4C Cabinet Bumpers
 
 With all the R-4C work going on here, I have managed to loose (or break and 
 then loose) the two small top cabinet bumpers located at the top rear of the 
 R-4C.  These are black in color, flat, and are press-fit into the back top 
 lip of the chassis.  Anyone have a pair to sell or is the OEM still selling 
 them through a distributor?  Tnx!
 
 Paul, W9AC
 
 
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[Drakelist] S-Meter hiccup on warm-up

2011-07-06 Thread jakob crockett
Hello all,

I'm new to the world of Drakes and have a question re: possible normal
v. abnormal behavior.

Several months ago I purchased a R-4B. After re-capping the radio
works wonderfully, and is a joy to use. My question: when I first turn
it on and place it in standby to warm-up, the S-meter moves smoothly
to the right, but always hiccups at 9 (mid-point) before moving all
the way to the right. Is this a normal behavior, or indicative of a
problem?

Thanks for any help/insights you might offer,
jake

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Re: [Drakelist] R4A AVC Question

2011-07-06 Thread Garey Barrell
I'd start by replacing V5 if you have a spare.  If not, just swap with V4.  If no effect, replace V1 
and/or V4.  If still no luck, we'll have to make some measurements in and around Q4.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


rhule...@comcast.net wrote:
With my R4A s/n 6759, have distortion of a sideband signal when RF gain control at maximum, AVC on 
fast.  CW signal is normal, and there is no distortion with the AVC off or on slow or with RF 
gain lower.  I'm recalling the AVC setup can be difficult to get right, appreciate any advice 
before beginning to work on this issue.


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Re: [Drakelist] R-4C Cabinet Bumpers

2011-07-06 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
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To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] R-4C Cabinet Bumpers



To Add to Paul's Request I am also looking for several 
bumper replacements.
I have not found a source for these as of yet and would 
appreciate any advice from the group.

Thank-you
Wade, VA3HM


Is there an illustration of these bumpers anywhere? 
I've seen all sorts of bumpers and feet at places that sell 
luggage repair parts and some other places, but I don't know 
exactly what is being looked for.



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Re: [Drakelist] S-Meter hiccup on warm-up

2011-07-06 Thread Garey Barrell

Jake -

Some do, some don't.  I think it is a function of the warm-up times of the various tubes involved, 
primarily V1, V4 and V5.  They're all specified as 11 second warm-up, but the precise point where 
they just begin to conduct can vary slightly.  Once warmed-up, you should be able to adjust the RF 
GAIN control and cause the meter to run smoothly from S1 to S9 +60.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


jakob crockett wrote:

Hello all,

I'm new to the world of Drakes and have a question re: possible normal
v. abnormal behavior.

Several months ago I purchased a R-4B. After re-capping the radio
works wonderfully, and is a joy to use. My question: when I first turn
it on and place it in standby to warm-up, the S-meter moves smoothly
to the right, but always hiccups at 9 (mid-point) before moving all
the way to the right. Is this a normal behavior, or indicative of a
problem?

Thanks for any help/insights you might offer,
jake



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[Drakelist] Connector for L7-PS

2011-07-06 Thread Dieter Horst

Gentlemen,

I am currently after an L7 missing the power supply. It will not be a 
big problem to build a decent p/s but will I be able to get that 8-pole 
connector? Especially here in Germany it is probably hard to get. Can 
you give me some sourcing hint?


Thanks and 73

Dieter Sam DL5RDO

TR-7/R7

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[Drakelist] Drake R-4C Power Transformer Orientation

2011-07-06 Thread Paul Christensen
Rob Sherwood just sent me the data below, confirming my finding that AC flux 
induction is worse on the R-4C PTO when the VFO is run up top where the 
ferrite core extends furthest to the rear of the receiver.  Notice the 13 dB 
difference in modulated PTO 60 Hz sidebands between VFO extremes.


Rob will send me his before and after transformer rotation spectrum 
measurements.  I'll post here when completed.


Paul, W9AC

I measured the ripple on the PTO at three frequencies on an R-4C in here 
for service using my HP 3585A spectrum analyzer.   The value is for the 
line related sidebands on two of the frequencies, and sidebands at 120, 
180, 240 Hz on the highest frequency.  The line-related sidebands go out 
further than 240 Hz, and are down about 80 dB at 480 Hz


Receiver freq.60 Hz  120 Hz 180 Hz 240 Hz
Tuned 14.0 MHZ  -46 dB
Tuned 14.2 MHZ  -39 dB
Tuned 14.5 MHZ  -33 dB, -48 dB, -57 dB, -63 dB

Of course the band one is on makes no difference, as the hum sidebands are 
magnetically coupled into the PTO.


I will have my tech turn around a transformer on one of my C-Lines in the 
coming weeks.


73, Rob, NC0B



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[Drakelist] Drake 2B General Coverage

2011-07-06 Thread Joe Connor
OK, guys, I have been using my Drake 2B as a general-coverage receiver for a 
week now and I wanted to report back on my experiences. This is a receiver that 
you folks helped me out with about a month ago. To repair it, I had to install 
a 6BF6 tube (easily obtained) and replace the filter cap can.

I made it a general-coverage receiver by using the accessory crystal sockets 
B, C and D. A 10 mhz crystal gives me 49m, a 13.5 mhz crystal gives me 31m and 
an 8.0 mhz crystal gives me 25m. The stock crystal for 40m includes the 41m 
band. The receiver's sensitivity and selectivity are very good. The tuning is 
spot-on accurate. While the audio does not rival that of an SX-28 or NC-183d, 
it is more than acceptable. I am really impressed. This receiver is a keeper. 
I have this set in my study and use it for general SWLing as well as 
monitoring the ham bands. It's a fun set to use.

There are shortcomings:

(1) you have to buy the crystals for each SW band; 

(2) it's a royal pain to change crystals. The 2B's top does not open, which 
would make changing the crystals less of a chore. Thus, I am pretty much 
limited to the SW bands listed above. This is a significant limitation. For 
example, I would like to be able to monitor the 19m band; and

(3) I have yet to master the 2B-Q Q multiplier. 


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Re: [Drakelist] [Boatanchors] Drake 2B General Coverage (Addition)

2011-07-06 Thread Joe Connor
I should add that another shortcoming of the 2B is that it cannot receive below 
3.5 mhz without a special low frequency converter. That's a shame because it 
seems this would be a great set for BCB DXing.
 
Here are some details on the converter: 
http://www.dproducts.be/drake_museum/2-lf1.htm
 
If anyone has one for sale, please let me know.
 
 
  Joe Connor

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Subject: [Boatanchors] Drake 2B General Coverage

OK, guys, I have been using my Drake 2B as a general-coverage receiver for a 
week now and I wanted to report back on my experiences. This is a receiver 
that you folks helped me out with about a month ago. To repair it, I had to 
install a 6BF6 tube (easily obtained) and replace the filter cap can.

I made it a general-coverage receiver by using the accessory crystal sockets 
B, C and D. A 10 mhz crystal gives me 49m, a 13.5 mhz crystal gives me 31m 
and an 8.0 mhz crystal gives me 25m. The stock crystal for 40m includes the 
41m band. The receiver's sensitivity and selectivity are very good. The 
tuning is spot-on accurate. While the audio does not rival that of an SX-28 
or NC-183d, it is more than acceptable. I am really impressed. This receiver 
is a keeper. I have this set in my study and use it for general SWLing as 
well as monitoring the ham bands. It's a fun set to use.

There are shortcomings:

(1) you have to buy the crystals for each SW band; 

(2) it's a royal pain to change crystals. The 2B's top does not open, which 
would make changing the crystals less of a chore. Thus, I am pretty much 
limited to the SW bands listed above. This is a significant limitation. For 
example, I would like to be able to monitor the 19m band; and

(3) I have yet to master the 2B-Q Q multiplier. 


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[Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Woody
*Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was
told you added a **resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or
where to put it. I need to know it at the Mod's for Dummies level, I was a
Toolmaker not a electronics man, well just enough to be dangerous and stay
alive.
*
Thanks
Woody
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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Paul Christensen
Woody,

You can add a 100K resistor in the D104's + mic lead.  That will help to unload 
the crystal element from the TR-7's moderately low input Z.  Same is true if 
your D104 uses Astatic's 2-transistor preamp/buffer circuit.  The input Z of 
Astatic's preamp is still too low to take full advantage of an unloaded crystal 
mic element.  On the other hand, the TR-7's SSB transmit filter will strip away 
much of the full-bodied audio from the D104.  So, apart from adding the 100k 
resistor, I wouldn't change anything else.  If you were going to use the D104 
with a modern DSP-based transceiver, I would have suggested gutting the Astatic 
preamp and replace it with one of the FET buffer circuits shown on my QRZ.com 
page.

Paul, W9AC
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Woody 
  To: Drake List 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:19 PM
  Subject: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7


  Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told 
you added a resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to 
put it. I need to know it at the Mod's for Dummies level, I was a Toolmaker not 
a electronics man, well just enough to be dangerous and stay alive. 

  Thanks 
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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread K9sqg
Woody,


I've heard of numerous people using the D-104 with the TR-7 as discussed on the 
Drake nets.  Values I've heard range from 470K to 1.3 meg in series with the 
mic hot lead.  If there is a speech pre-amp in the mic, it should not be used.


73,


Evan, K9SQG





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Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 9:19 pm
Subject: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7


Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told 
you added a resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to 
put it. I need to know it at the Mod's for Dummies level, I was a Toolmaker not 
a electronics man, well just enough to be dangerous and stay alive. 

Thanks 
Woody
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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Grant Youngman
Why wouldn't you use the preamp?  While there may be better preamp circuits out 
there, even the preamp in an amplified Astatic stand sounds decent if it's used 
properly. Turn it all the way down. Set the rig's mic gain at about 10:00, and 
then SLOWLY advance the gain of the preamp for normal modulation. 

The biggest problem happens when you just crank it all the way up for that 
good buddy effect. 

I've used amp'd d104 and 10D mics on rigs of all kinds (including Drake's of 
all kinds without getting cr*p for audio.  The preamp eliminates the need to be 
concerned about matching the input Z of the radio and eliminates the effect of 
the input Z of the radio on the freq response of the mic. 

Grant/NQ5T

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM, K9sqg k9...@aol.com wrote:

 Woody,
 
 I've heard of numerous people using the D-104 with the TR-7 as discussed on 
 the Drake nets.  Values I've heard range from 470K to 1.3 meg in series with 
 the mic hot lead.  If there is a speech pre-amp in the mic, it should not be 
 used.
 
 73,
 
 Evan, K9SQG
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Woody ko4...@gmail.com
 To: Drake List drakelist@zerobeat.net
 Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 9:19 pm
 Subject: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7
 
 Does any one know the mod to make the 104 work well with the TR7, I was told 
 you added a resistor of some value but they didn't know the value or where to 
 put it. I need to know it at the Mod's for Dummies level, I was a Toolmaker 
 not a electronics man, well just enough to be dangerous and stay alive. 
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[Drakelist] Amplified D104

2011-07-06 Thread Woody
*I have used D104's for many years on all my rigs, as a matter of a fact
that's all I own, I have mine mounted on a boom, I hate to hold the darn
things. This is the only time I have ever had a problem with one, and I have
the amp tuned all the way down and then just barely cracked it and the mic
gain on the TR7 is at the 7 o'clock position if you turn it up passed that
position I get bad reports of clipping. So I'm trying to find a cure without
going to a 7075 for close to a hundred bucks and having to hold it.
*
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Re: [Drakelist] Amplified D104

2011-07-06 Thread Grant Youngman
444D -- hamfest, e-whatever. Not expensive.  Great mic with a TR-7. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Woody ko4...@gmail.com wrote:

 I clipping. So I'm trying to find a cure without going to a 7075 for close to 
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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Grant Youngman
That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will work fine, too. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:13 PM, K9sqg k9...@aol.com wrote:

 Grant,
 
 There is no real need for the pre-amp circuit when the D-104 is used with the 
 TR-7, more than enough gain exists.  Don't have to replace the battery every 
 year or two either.  At any rate, it is personal preference.
 
 73,
 
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Re: [Drakelist] Amplified D104

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:40:29 -0500, Woody wrote:

I have used D104's for many years on all my rigs, as a matter of a fact that's 
all I own, I have mine mounted on a boom, I hate to hold the darn things. This 
is the only time I have ever had a problem with one, and I have the amp tuned 
all the way down and then just barely cracked it and the mic gain on the TR7 
is at the 7 o'clock position if you turn it up passed that position I get bad 
reports of clipping. So I'm trying to find a cure without going to a 7075 for 
close to a hundred bucks and having to hold it.


Two things:

1. Make sure you are connected to the high level input pin on the TR-7 mic
connector. That's the pin with the extra 470K resistor in series with the audio
line (on all but the earliest TR-7s).

2. Disconnect that abomination of an amplifier and place an additional 470K (or
higher) series resistor in it's place. You don't need the extra gain at all, as
you have found out, and the higher impedance load on the D-104 cartridge will
make it sound very good. I've used two different D-104/T-UGx on my TR-7 using
both these methods at the same time, with stellar audio reports.

73

-Jim


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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:26:44 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote:

That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will work fine, too. 

Better without. It's extra gain that is not needed, and it adds another failure
point and a point for feedback and distortion to enter. I've gotten excellent
results by removing the amlifier and using the old-timer's trick of the series
470K resistor. The result beats out most of my other mics, although the Turners
and the EV are real close. 444 and 7075, not so much, although the 444 gets the
a nod for it's natural sound suitable for casual armchair copy QSOing.

73

-Jim


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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:23:08 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote:

Why wouldn't you use the preamp?

Because you don't need it, and it can cause more trouble than it's worth.

The preamp eliminates the need to be concerned about matching the input Z of 
the radio and eliminates the effect of the input Z of the radio on the freq 
response of the mic. 

No concern at all with the Drakes, see my previous posts. The cartridge has
high output, and the higher the load impedance, the better they tend to sound.
I always got exellent reports feeding through a collective total of close to 1
Meg resistive into the TR-7. 

73

-Jim


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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 21:33:11 -0400, Paul Christensen wrote:

You can add a 100K resistor in the D104's + mic lead.  That will help to 
unload the crystal element from the TR-7's moderately low input Z.  

Note: if the high level input pin is used, the load is 470K + the low level
impedance. I use 470K for the series resitor, for a total of around a meg.

 If you were going to use the D104 with a modern DSP-based transceiver, I 
 would have suggested gutting the Astatic preamp and replace it with one of 
 the FET buffer circuits shown on my QRZ.com page. 

I should think that the resistor method would work with just about any rig that
will accept a low-Z dymanic mic.

73

-Jim
 


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Re: [Drakelist] Connector for L7-PS

2011-07-06 Thread Jim Shorney
Dieter,

This is a standard Jones connector, formerly made by Cinch. I purchased one
from, I think, Digi-Key several years ago. I don't know if this particular
connector is still in production, but there should still be NOS available at
one or more of the major parts suppliers. 

73

-Jim

On Wed, 06 Jul 2011 20:57:02 +0200, Dieter Horst wrote:

Gentlemen,

I am currently after an L7 missing the power supply. It will not be a 
big problem to build a decent p/s but will I be able to get that 8-pole 
connector? Especially here in Germany it is probably hard to get. Can 
you give me some sourcing hint?

Thanks and 73

Dieter Sam DL5RDO

TR-7/R7

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Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7

2011-07-06 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Jim Shorney jshor...@inebraska.com

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Drakelist] D104 and TR7



On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 22:26:44 -0500, Grant Youngman wrote:

That's true. But if one has an amplified stand it will 
work fine, too.


Better without. It's extra gain that is not needed, and it 
adds another failure
point and a point for feedback and distortion to enter. 
I've gotten excellent
results by removing the amlifier and using the old-timer's 
trick of the series
470K resistor. The result beats out most of my other mics, 
although the Turners
and the EV are real close. 444 and 7075, not so much, 
although the 444 gets the
a nod for it's natural sound suitable for casual armchair 
copy QSOing.


73

-Jim

FWIW, crystal and ceramic microphones have purely 
capacitive internal impedance, that is they look like a 
capacitor. Ideally, they want to look at in infinite 
impedance.  When you put it in parallel with a resistor it 
forms a high pass filter, that is, the bass will be rolled 
off. A series resistor will keep the low end up at the 
expense of some loss of level. The other thing to be careful 
of is cable capacitance. That will tend to roll off the high 
frequencies because the impedance of the mic is so high.
Probably the ideal input device is a vacuum tube with 
an open grid or one with grid leak bias. There is probably a 
solid state equivalent to that.
I am somewhat surprized that the frequency responce is 
affected enough to be heard through the rather narrow and 
sharp filters in modern SSB rigs.



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