Re: [drakelist] Electronic air cleaners damage rubber

2006-01-03 Thread Greg


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Ozone is quite poisonous, those air-refresheners produce ions.
One way to create ozone is with a sparkgap, standing next to a sparking
generator you can smell the ozone as well.
Ionized air is simply negativly charged molecules where creating
ozone combines severeal oxygen atoms.
Or someting like that :-)

//Greg

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[drakelist] Electronic air cleaners damage rubber

2006-01-02 Thread Dennis Monticelli
FYI. There have been reports that the so-called electronic air
cleaners that emit negative ions damage rubber products in short
order. For example a pinch roller on a 6 mo old VCR that aged 20
years or a one-month-old drive belt that was crumbling. Other
reports are of rapidly failing rubber seals windows and disintegrating
carpet pads. What was in common with all these reports were various
models of negative-ion air cleaners that had been recently
installed. It seems that the ions penetrate every crevice and
will attack rubber.

Denny AE6C


Re: [drakelist] Electronic air cleaners damage rubber

2006-01-02 Thread Ron Wagner


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Okay, let me see if I can show my ignorance.

Negative Ions and Ozone are the same thing?

O know that O3 is a very reactive oxygen molecule, and will more or less 
bleach anything it comes in contact with.  My understanding is that Ozone 
in any amount is not generally good.  OTOH hand I am not exactly sure 
what a negative ion is.



The above warnings were given with the Ozone unit which I purchased.

FYI.  There have been reports that the so-called electronic air cleaners 
that emit negative ions damage rubber products in short order.  For 
example a pinch roller on a 6 mo old VCR that aged 20 years or a

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Fw: [drakelist] Electronic air cleaners damage rubber

2006-01-02 Thread Grif




Ozone is not so good for the lungs, either. Good 
idea to stay out of the room/house while using one to remove odors.

Grif, KF4JG

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  From: 
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  To: Dennis Monticelli 
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  Subject: Re: [drakelist] Electronic air 
  cleaners damage rubber
  Denny -I'm surprised that the "air 
  cleaners" did not come with a warning to effect that Ozone generators will 
  damage and/or attack rubber and that such unit should be used with care and 
  not for extended periods of time.The "cleaners" will also attack the 
  condenser coils in air conditioning units when the ozone produced combines 
  with the moisture on the coils.The above warnings were given with the 
  Ozone unit which I purchased.I have a rather large unit which I use 
  very sparingly to remove certain cooking aromas and originally purchased to 
  remove the aroma of the "wildfires of '98" from my house in 
  Florida.Just remember that too much of anything, well most everything, 
  is not good.73,Jay/AF2CAt 11:56 AM 1/2/06 -0800, 
  you wrote:
  FYI. There have been 
reports that the so-called electronic air cleaners that emit "negative ions" 
damage rubber products in short order. For example a pinch roller on a 
6 mo old VCR that aged 20 years or a one-month-old drive belt that was 
crumbling. Other reports are of rapidly failing rubber seals windows 
and disintegrating carpet pads. What was in common with all these reports 
were various models of negative-ion air cleaners that had been recently 
installed. It seems that the ions penetrate every crevice and will 
attack rubber.Denny 
AE6C


Re: [drakelist] Electronic air cleaners damage rubber

2006-01-02 Thread Jason Buchanan


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Dennis Monticelli wrote:

FYI.  There have been reports that the so-called electronic air 
cleaners that emit negative ions damage rubber products in short 
order.  For example a pinch roller on a 6 mo old VCR that aged 20 
years or a one-month-old drive belt that was crumbling.  Other reports 
are of rapidly failing rubber seals windows and disintegrating carpet 
pads. What was in common with all these reports were various models of 
negative-ion air cleaners that had been recently installed.  It seems 
that the ions penetrate every crevice and will attack rubber.


Denny  AE6C



Hmmm...  dunno about that one.  I have a couple Trion console units and 
one of the Sharper Image models too - had 'em for nearly 10 years and I 
never had any trouble with anything, rubber or otherwise.  The 
conductivity of the air (high humidity) helps produce more ozone so 
perhaps a humid southern climate is the cause and effect.  The Trion 
units will far exceed the capability of the sharper image stuff but no 
ill effects here.  Laser printers that get used a lot produce tremendous 
amounts of ozone but how many secretaries complain about their rubber 
bands falling apart? hi


I have the little wall plugin ozonator that came with the sharper image 
unit in the shack - none of the rubber bands on stuff in the shack is 
rotting and i've had it for 4 years.


73 Jason N1SU

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