Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] remove the i830 driver

2008-07-15 Thread Simon Farnsworth
Keith Whitwell wrote:
 You can still buy new i865 boards:
 
  http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412
 
 So I think this isn't a great idea.
 
This won't remove all support for i865. It only removes support for the 
combination of i865 and old X servers.

New X servers use the i915 driver to support the i865 chipset.
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Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] remove the i830 driver

2008-07-15 Thread Keith Whitwell
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Simon Farnsworth
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 Keith Whitwell wrote:

 You can still buy new i865 boards:

 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412

 So I think this isn't a great idea.

 This won't remove all support for i865. It only removes support for the
 combination of i865 and old X servers.

 New X servers use the i915 driver to support the i865 chipset.

You're right -- removing the old module is fine by me.

Keith

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Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] remove the i830 driver

2008-07-15 Thread Dave Airlie

 After seeing that i830_drm.h was just added as a userspace header
 I wondered whether there's really a non-empty intersection of
 kernel = 2.6.27 users and users of such an ancient X.
 
 I doubt it, and therefore suggest this patch to remove the driver.

NAK I'm generally against removing old userspace APIs just because you 
don't know what people are doing out in the real world,

This should go via feature deprecation, it should also include a list of 
distros that actually shipped an X server/Mesa combo that used the i830 as 
opposed to the i915 so we can make a better judgement call. 

Dave.

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Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] remove the i830 driver

2008-07-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 03:28:04PM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote:
 You can still buy new i865 boards:

  http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119412

 So I think this isn't a great idea.

Why does the i915 driver not work on this board?

 Keith

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Re: [RFC: 2.6 patch] remove the i830 driver

2008-07-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 09:14:05PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:
 
  After seeing that i830_drm.h was just added as a userspace header
  I wondered whether there's really a non-empty intersection of
  kernel = 2.6.27 users and users of such an ancient X.
  
  I doubt it, and therefore suggest this patch to remove the driver.
 
 NAK I'm generally against removing old userspace APIs just because you 
 don't know what people are doing out in the real world,
 
 This should go via feature deprecation, it should also include a list of 
 distros that actually shipped an X server/Mesa combo that used the i830 as 
 opposed to the i915 so we can make a better judgement call. 

Is there any remote chance at all that such distros will work with
kernels = 2.6.27 ?

I'm asking since I remember that the current stable Debian contains 
kernel 2.6.18, the previous stable Debian contained kernel 2.6.8 (which 
was released nearly at the same time as X11R6.8.0), and the upgrade 
procedure was slightly tricky since there does not exist any udev 
version supporting both kernel 2.6.8 and kernel 2.6.18. [1]

If you know about things people do in the real world I missed please 
say so.

 Dave.

cu
Adrian

[1] 
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#s-upgrading_kernel

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