Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:05:27PM -0500, Daniel Vogel wrote: There is no way in hell UT2k3 will run on MGA. It *REQUIRES* ARB_texture_env_combine, which is not supported by that hardware. Even if it didn't require that extension, good grief man, why torture yourself like that?!? :) FWIW, the Windows version of UT2003 even runs (badly) on Intel 810 and Voodoo Banshee cards :) A G400 actually performs better than a TNT2 due to the increased fillrate. (all D3D) I've got a G400 MAX as well -- it does pretty well all things considered when paired with a beefy enough processor to compensate for the lack of TL. Twas briefly the fastest GPU around ISTR, til Nvidia stole the crown with the GeForce... Phil -- http://www.kantaka.co.uk/ .oOo. public key: http://www.kantaka.co.uk/gpg.txt --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. ??? This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Leif Delgass wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. ??? This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. No, that's ut2k3 looking for S3TC support. Actually, I'm not sure it's S3TC. There may be some other functionality in that X extension that it looks for. In any case, that message just means it couldn't find that X server extension. I see that and I've never had XiG drivers installed. -- Leif Delgass http://www.retinalburn.net --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
RE: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. ??? This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. No, that's ut2k3 looking for S3TC support. No. BTW, the above warning message is harmless IIRC. [ 6] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f31fb7] [ 7] /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo/System/OpenGLDrv.so(DrawPrimitive__ 22FOpenGLRenderInterface14EPrimitiveType+0x373) Might be interesting to know why it crashes inside the driver :) -- Daniel, Epic Games Inc. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 02:25:16PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. ??? This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. No, it's just UT2003 looking for that X server extension and not finding it. I don't have any Xig libraries whatsoever. Phil -- http://www.kantaka.co.uk/ .oOo. public key: http://www.kantaka.co.uk/gpg.txt --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 05:53:25PM -0500, Leif Delgass wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Leif Delgass wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. No, that's ut2k3 looking for S3TC support. Actually, I'm not sure it's S3TC. There may be some other functionality in that X extension that it looks for. In any case, that message just means it couldn't find that X server extension. I see that and I've never had XiG drivers installed. No, it's not the S3TC stuff -- note the warnings in the logfile in my original email warning that a lack of S3TC support will lead to reduced performance. Googling around reveals that UT2003 complains about missing XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD extensions for other people and it appears entirely benign. Phil -- http://www.kantaka.co.uk/ .oOo. public key: http://www.kantaka.co.uk/gpg.txt --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 06:13:01PM -0500, Daniel Vogel wrote: [ 6] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f31fb7] [ 7] /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo/System/OpenGLDrv.so(DrawPrimitive__ 22FOpenGLRenderInterface14EPrimitiveType+0x373) Might be interesting to know why it crashes inside the driver :) fwiw, here's the output from ut2003 if I set MESA_DEBUG and LIBGL_DEBUG: cpu vendor: AuthenticAMD cpu name: AMD Duron(tm) Processor MMX cpu detected. 3DNow! cpu detected. Testing OS support for SSE... yes. Testing OS support for SSE unmasked exceptions... SIGFPE, yes. Tests of OS support for SSE passed. SSE cpu detected. Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(param=GL_COMBINE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(param=GL_COMBINE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_RGB_SCALE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_ALPHA_SCALE) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE0_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE2_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE0_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE2_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND0_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND1_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND2_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND0_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND1_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND2_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_RGB_SCALE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_ALPHA_SCALE) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE0_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE2_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE0_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE2_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND0_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND1_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND2_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND0_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND1_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_OPERAND2_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_COMBINE_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_RGB_SCALE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_RGB_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_SOURCE1_ALPHA_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_RGB_SCALE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glTexEnv(pname=GL_RGB_SCALE_EXT) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error: GL_INVALID_ENUM in glDisable(0x8513) Mesa: Mesa user error:
RE: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Daniel Vogel wrote: On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Philip Brown wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 09:12:04PM +, Philip Armstrong wrote: Using the debs at http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/ on Debian unstable and the latest demo release of UT2003 (v2206 -- which is purported to not need S3TC extensions), I get the following traceback reported by UT2003: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. ??? This looks like you are using Xig libGL.so library. Deinstall Xig libs before doing tests like this. No, that's ut2k3 looking for S3TC support. No. BTW, the above warning message is harmless IIRC. Yeah, I realized my error just after posting it (see my reply to myself). ;) [ 6] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f31fb7] [ 7] /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo/System/OpenGLDrv.so(DrawPrimitive__ 22FOpenGLRenderInterface14EPrimitiveType+0x373) Might be interesting to know why it crashes inside the driver :) I agree. Based on the MESA_DEBUG log, It looks like ARB_texture_env_combine isn't supported in the MGA driver. I see defines for what look like combiner registers, but it's not implemented in the driver yet (I don't have hardware docs myself so I don't know the specifics of what the cards can do). The INVALID_ENUMS here appear to be the result of that and a lack of ARB_texture_cube_map (neither of which are in core OpenGL 1.2). However, the driver shouldn't cause a segfault even with a bad enum. A trace from gdb would be helpful, I think. On the plus side, the R100 and R200 drivers now support ATI_texture_env_combine3 and one bug that was causing vertex corruption in the intro cinematic in the R100 driver was fixed. However, there are still vertex problems that appear to be in the R100 driver to track down. I can't test R200, so I'm not sure what the status is there. -- Leif Delgass http://www.retinalburn.net --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
RE: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
Based on the MESA_DEBUG log, It looks like ARB_texture_env_combine isn't supported in the MGA driver. I see defines for what look like combiner That's a no go as we rely on this extension. The game should probably assert in this case. -- Daniel, Epic Games Inc. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
Philip Armstrong wrote: phil@trigger /scratch/phil/ut2k3/demo ./ut2003_demo Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. Ignore this. This is UT2k3 trying to determine which way to do fullscreen. Either the XFree86 way or the XiG way. [ 4] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f55bb9] [ 5] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f3e4f1] [ 6] /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/dri/mga_dri.so [0x43f31fb7] There is no way in hell UT2k3 will run on MGA. It *REQUIRES* ARB_texture_env_combine, which is not supported by that hardware. Even if it didn't require that extension, good grief man, why torture yourself like that?!? :) --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
Leif Delgass wrote: Based on the MESA_DEBUG log, It looks like ARB_texture_env_combine isn't supported in the MGA driver. I see defines for what look like combiner registers, but it's not implemented in the driver yet (I don't have hardware docs myself so I don't know the specifics of what the cards can do). The INVALID_ENUMS here appear to be the result of that and a lack of ARB_texture_cube_map (neither of which are in core OpenGL 1.2). However, the driver shouldn't cause a segfault even with a bad enum. A trace from gdb would be helpful, I think. Correct. The combiner in the G400 family is strange. I spent some time looking at the docs a few weeks ago. It should be possible to implement most of ARB_texture_env_combine, but not everything. Basically, there is a single multiplier and a single adder. That means that GL_INTERPOLATE is right out. Also, the first operand MUST come from the source texture. It's pretty kooky, but I think we could get about 60% of ARB_texture_env_combine and about 40% of ATI_texture_env_combine3 (no joke!) hardware accelerated. If anyone (esp. anyone that has that hardware) would be interested in working on implementing it, I'd love to discuss it. I just don't think I'll have the spare time to put too much effort into it. What would be REALLY nice is to have as much of these extensions as possible hardware accelerated on MGA, Rage 128, and i810, AND have the software fallbacks MMX optimized...I can dream. :) On the plus side, the R100 and R200 drivers now support ATI_texture_env_combine3 and one bug that was causing vertex corruption in the intro cinematic in the R100 driver was fixed. However, there are still vertex problems that appear to be in the R100 driver to track down. I can't test R200, so I'm not sure what the status is there. Unfortunately, it's WORSE on R200. Not only does it not render correctly, it hard locks the system. I have to hit the reset button on the case. :( I'm trying to get through some of my other duties so that I can spend a few cycles on this. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
RE: [Dri-devel] UT2003 crash with current trunk
There is no way in hell UT2k3 will run on MGA. It *REQUIRES* ARB_texture_env_combine, which is not supported by that hardware. Even if it didn't require that extension, good grief man, why torture yourself like that?!? :) FWIW, the Windows version of UT2003 even runs (badly) on Intel 810 and Voodoo Banshee cards :) A G400 actually performs better than a TNT2 due to the increased fillrate. (all D3D) We scale back pretty well, though the OpenGL renderer never was written with the intention to work on G400 cards. The D3D renderer jumps through quite some hoops to deal with very old HW, disables certain features and simplifies certain materials/ shaders to avoid driver/ HW bugs/ limitations. I didn't bother doing that for the OpenGL renderer, which, FWIW, runs quite well on Voodoo 4/5 cards on Windows. As I've been seeing posts on /. about the topic: on Windows the OpenGL renderer performs within 5-10% of the D3D renderer on ATI and NVIDIA cards on the machines I tested. Sometimes it's faster, but most of the times its slightly slower than the D3D renderer, which doesn't come as a big surprise given the amount of tweaking the D3D codepath underwent on both our end and the driver side. -- Daniel, Epic Games Inc. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can use. Code faster. C/C++, C#, Java, HTML, XML, many more. FREE 30-Day Trial. www.slickedit.com/sourceforge ___ Dri-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
