Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 10:29: [...] Hallo Tony Hi Steve :) Built as an rpm on a good ASUS machine under patched Red Hat RHAS4 Do you have any pointers for the RPM? I use Fedora Core 4 Yes, it's mine. SRPM sentt off list. Should build on most FCs. This year I had one customer requesting a RPM for DSPAM and I had quickly to do one for him while I was away on a business trip. Luckily I have saved it on my server and the other day when you mentioned that you had a RPM I remembered, that I had done the spec file for DSPAM. Today I took the time to search for it and found it :) I don't know how well it is? I am not using it. As you already know I use Gentoo. Anyway... today I modified the spec file to use the latest Gentoo patch set and added a comment in the spec file to reflect the change. Well, I see you began in April and finalized Dec 27 ultimo. Most of the helper stuff (except the init.d script) are +/- the one I have written for Gentoo. I wrote the stuff long time ago for me and for some customers but then switched to use stored procedures on MySQL to purge the tokens (except the hapaxial tokens which get cleaned once monthly with another job). The spec file is written in such a way that you can specify on the command line what storage drivers you would like to compile and some other stuff (I tried to follow Gentoo's USE flags). Currently I have the following switches: use rpmbuild --with bnr_debug or rpm --define '_with_bnr_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with clamav or rpm --define '_with_clamav 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with daemon or rpm --define '_with_daemon 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with debug or rpm --define '_with_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with large_domain or rpm --define '_with_large_domain 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with ldap or rpm --define '_with_ldap 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with mysql or rpm --define '_with_mysql 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with postgres or rpm --define '_with_postgres 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with sqlite or rpm --define '_with_sqlite 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with sqlite3 or rpm --define '_with_sqlite3 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with syslog or rpm --define '_with_syslog 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with user_homedirs or rpm --define '_with_user_homedirs 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with verbose_debug or rpm --define '_with_verbose_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with virtual_users or rpm --define '_with_virtual_users 1' (for RPM 3.x) If you would like to build for i686 and with MySQL, SQLite3, PostgreSQL, ClamAV, Syslog, large scale and virtual users then you would issue this command on a RPM 4.x system: rpmbuild --with mysql --with postgres --with sqlite3 --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec The spec would then build the following on a RH 5.1: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-pgsql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-sqlite3_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm I splitted the storage drivers into separate RPMs. The hash driver is always included but the other storage drivers requiring additional libraries are in separate RPMs. Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory Could you please give me the address of an FTP or HTML server where I could get an srpm, or failing that put one onto ftp://ipd50aa34e.speed.planet.nl/../uploads? This is a proftpd server where you may upload, but neither you nor anyone see the files you've uploaded, nor retrieve them. I'm especially interested in this, since in spite of what I recently reported about CVS now not sigseving any longer, it still is. I can't honestly see what non-descriptive Gentoo patches can possibly do for FC6/RHELL5 where dspam 3.8.0 is running well and stably, without memory leaks or anything, for weeks at a time. Best, --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
Re: [dspam-users] Problem with dspam_admin and other tools
Tony Earnshaw skrev, on 22-12-2007 10:58: FWIW I get a SIGSEGV with CVS on FC6 when running dspam from stdin; don't get it with 3.8.0. CVS is a no-go for me. I'll update my last post about available rpms. This doesn't happen any more with CVS 0712220843, so I'll leave it as it is; happy to go with CVS on FC6. I lied, it's still sigseving; back to 3.8.0 that doesn't. As I just wrote in a post mainly to Steve, I can't honestly see what non-descriptive Gentoo patches can possibly do for FC6/RHELL5 where dspam 3.8.0 is running well and stably, without memory leaks or anything, for weeks at a time. Best, --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 11:12:16 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 10:29: [...] Hallo Tony Hi Steve :) Hallo Tony Built as an rpm on a good ASUS machine under patched Red Hat RHAS4 Do you have any pointers for the RPM? I use Fedora Core 4 Yes, it's mine. SRPM sentt off list. Should build on most FCs. This year I had one customer requesting a RPM for DSPAM and I had quickly to do one for him while I was away on a business trip. Luckily I have saved it on my server and the other day when you mentioned that you had a RPM I remembered, that I had done the spec file for DSPAM. Today I took the time to search for it and found it :) I don't know how well it is? I am not using it. As you already know I use Gentoo. Anyway... today I modified the spec file to use the latest Gentoo patch set and added a comment in the spec file to reflect the change. Well, I see you began in April and finalized Dec 27 ultimo. Well in April was the first creation while I was in working in Stockholm for Hewlett Packard. The project there was about outsorcing and transforming a huge environment (around 800 servers) to virtual systems. HP had to transform those servers from many Linux distros to 1 distro (Red Hat Enterprise Server). So I was just in the right mood and mode to write a RPM. Most of the helper stuff (except the init.d script) are +/- the one I have written for Gentoo. I wrote the stuff long time ago for me and for some customers but then switched to use stored procedures on MySQL to purge the tokens (except the hapaxial tokens which get cleaned once monthly with another job). The spec file is written in such a way that you can specify on the command line what storage drivers you would like to compile and some other stuff (I tried to follow Gentoo's USE flags). Currently I have the following switches: use rpmbuild --with bnr_debug or rpm --define '_with_bnr_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with clamav or rpm --define '_with_clamav 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with daemon or rpm --define '_with_daemon 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with debug or rpm --define '_with_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with large_domain or rpm --define '_with_large_domain 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with ldap or rpm --define '_with_ldap 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with mysql or rpm --define '_with_mysql 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with postgres or rpm --define '_with_postgres 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with sqlite or rpm --define '_with_sqlite 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with sqlite3 or rpm --define '_with_sqlite3 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with syslog or rpm --define '_with_syslog 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with user_homedirs or rpm --define '_with_user_homedirs 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with verbose_debug or rpm --define '_with_verbose_debug 1' (for RPM 3.x) use rpmbuild --with virtual_users or rpm --define '_with_virtual_users 1' (for RPM 3.x) If you would like to build for i686 and with MySQL, SQLite3, PostgreSQL, ClamAV, Syslog, large scale and virtual users then you would issue this command on a RPM 4.x system: rpmbuild --with mysql --with postgres --with sqlite3 --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec The spec would then build the following on a RH 5.1: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-pgsql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-sqlite3_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i686.rpm I splitted the storage drivers into separate RPMs. The hash driver is always included but the other storage drivers requiring additional libraries are in separate RPMs. Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4:
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 11:59: [...] Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz Well, that was a simple wget into ~/rpm/SOURCES. [...] 1215 [tonni:tru.leerlingen] /home/tonni/rpm/SPECS $ rpmbuild -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec --with mysql [...] Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm But: rpm -qplv /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /etc/mail/dspam [...] -rwxr-xr-x1 dspam mail 146805 Dec 23 14:49 /usr/bin/dspam [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /var/spool/dspam You put stuff into Debian directories where Red Hat wouldn't put them, so I'm not going to install them, sorry ;) I still don't see the point of Gentoo patches on stuff which, though it might not work on Gentoo, still works perfectly on Red Hat RHEL5 and FC6 and (judging from what the CVS stuff does) sigsegvs when I don't want it to. Best, --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
Re: [dspam-users] Problem with dspam_admin and other tools
Tony Earnshaw skrev, on 23-12-2007 15:32: Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 12:02: [...] I lied, it's still sigseving; back to 3.8.0 that doesn't. As I just wrote in a post mainly to Steve, I can't honestly see what non-descriptive Gentoo patches can possibly do for FC6/RHELL5 where dspam 3.8.0 is running well and stably, without memory leaks or anything, for weeks at a time. Sorry to say: Shit! No need to be sorry, shit happens. I have over here the possibility to run DSPAM on CentOS 5.1. Should I do that? Up to you, ain' it? Works for me on RHEL5. I only work with Red Hat systems, someoe once forced me to use Debian Sarge (wasn't allowed to use Etch) and that was horrible. What switches have you active in DSPAM? Well, he offered cautiously, I have my own srpm for RHEL5, which was written at the behest of Jonz. How did you compile it? See the above. It's available at my ftp site, which I've already given. It should build on CentOS5, maybe not recognize the Release. It will install to LFH directories, which you might not like. Any thing other you can tell me in order to reproduce that issue on my end? Oh, sorry, dspam-3.8.0-4.rhl5.src.rpm is the good one. dspam-cvs0712220843-1.fc6.src.rpm is the one that sigsegvs. That's from the CVS. It might say fc6, but it will build ok on Centos5. It's not patched 3.8.0, just pure CVS: Best, --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:07:30 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 11:59: [...] Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz Well, that was a simple wget into ~/rpm/SOURCES. Yes. I expected that :) [...] 1215 [tonni:tru.leerlingen] /home/tonni/rpm/SPECS $ rpmbuild -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec --with mysql [...] Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm But: rpm -qplv /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /etc/mail/dspam [...] -rwxr-xr-x1 dspam mail 146805 Dec 23 14:49 /usr/bin/dspam [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /var/spool/dspam You put stuff into Debian directories The directory layout is the same as in Gentoo. where Red Hat wouldn't put them, so I'm not going to install them, sorry ;) Don't sorry. Just tell me how the layout would be on a Red Hat system and I will change the spec file. I still don't see the point of Gentoo patches on stuff which, though it might not work on Gentoo, still works perfectly on Red Hat RHEL5 and FC6 and (judging from what the CVS stuff does) sigsegvs when I don't want it to. Tony. I think we all here on the list are for two simple reasons here: We either need or we want to give help. I am here because of the later. So if you have a segmentation fault then I declare your problem as my problem and try to fix it. Help me to get to the point where I can help. What do I need to do to replicate your problem in my environment? I can take a CentOS 5.1 system and play around with DSPAM. But you need to feed me with information so I can quickly nail the problem or draw a circle around the areas where the problem could be. Without that I am lost and can not help the way I would like. I think the first thing to do is to build a RPM having a Red Hat layout. If we get that, then we could start to work from that point. What do you think? Best, --Tonni Steve -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail
Re: [dspam-users] Problem with dspam_admin and other tools
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:32:45 +0100 Von: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] Problem with dspam_admin and other tools Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:32:52 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] Problem with dspam_admin and other tools Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 12:02: [...] I lied, it's still sigseving; back to 3.8.0 that doesn't. As I just wrote in a post mainly to Steve, I can't honestly see what non-descriptive Gentoo patches can possibly do for FC6/RHELL5 where dspam 3.8.0 is running well and stably, without memory leaks or anything, for weeks at a time. Sorry to say: Shit! No need to be sorry, shit happens. I know, I know... I have over here the possibility to run DSPAM on CentOS 5.1. Should I do that? Up to you, ain' it? Sort of. If you want me to find the error and want to work with me together to find/spot the error, then I need your okay. I know that I am free to do what ever I like. I am Swiss! We are free. No torture, no repression, nothing. I am free as free can be. Works for me on RHEL5. I only work with Red Hat systems, I work mainly with Gentoo on my end. But on the customers side I have everything you could possibly imagine. Red Hat (the old things before Fedora Core), SuSE (any flavor. SLES, etc), Debian, RHAS, Debian, HPUX, AIX, Solaris, etc, etc... someoe once forced me to use Debian Sarge (wasn't allowed to use Etch) and that was horrible. LOL. After a while you get used to it. I personally like Red Hat. It is a good system. I don't like so much SuSE but that's another story. What switches have you active in DSPAM? Well, he offered cautiously, I have my own srpm for RHEL5, which was written at the behest of Jonz. Okay. How did you compile it? See the above. It's available at my ftp site, which I've already given. It should build on CentOS5, maybe not recognize the Release. It will install to LFH directories, which you might not like. I will take your spec as the base for the layout. Btw: Why is LFH? The only thing regarding where to put stuff on a system I know is FHS (File System Hierarchy Standard). Is LFH now something new? Any thing other you can tell me in order to reproduce that issue on my end? Just don't patch with any Gentoo patches ;) And what about the other patches? BTW: I run DSPAM since years. I had 3.8.0 in production without any single patch from Gentoo for months. It never crashed. Never! Any message triggering that segmentation fault? This was the line in my cron script that caused it: /usr/bin/dspam --class=spam --source=error --deliver=spam --user $mail $misclass /dev/null 21 Can you reproduce this by passing that message again over DSPAM? If this is the case, then allow me to ask you if I could have that message? If it is nothing sensitive, then I would love to get that message. $mail is the shared group leerlingen. leerlingen? Probably this is the same as the German word Lehrlinge? LOL. I like the NL langauge. Currently working at Heineken in a project. It kills me when I hear them some time in a telco breaking out of the English we are forced to talk. As a Swiss I understand some of their words. It is funny. The ending of a conversation mostly ends with Puss, Puss Ach! I think it is hey, hey or hay, hay and not puss, puss. But I don't remember exactly. (I don't know if it is written correctly, nor I know what it means). This sounds so funny to me :) $misclass is the message. This is what happened: /etc/cron.hourly/dspam.cron: /etc/cron.hourly/dspam.cron: line 14: 3620 Segmentation fault /usr/bin/dspam --class=spam --source=error --deliver=spam --user $mail $misclass /dev/null 21 It don't happen with 3.8.0 on RHEL5 nor FC6. But when it happens with the CVS version it happens immediately or you have to wait for DSPAM to crash? Best, --Tonni Steve -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger?did=10
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:07:30 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 11:59: [...] Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz Well, that was a simple wget into ~/rpm/SOURCES. [...] 1215 [tonni:tru.leerlingen] /home/tonni/rpm/SPECS $ rpmbuild -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec --with mysql [...] Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm But: rpm -qplv /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /etc/mail/dspam [...] -rwxr-xr-x1 dspam mail 146805 Dec 23 14:49 /usr/bin/dspam [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /var/spool/dspam You put stuff into Debian directories where Red Hat wouldn't put them, so I'm not going to install them, sorry ;) I have some issues with your layout: 1) Your put the SQL scripts into the documentation directory. Why that? The scripts are from my viewpoint not part of the documentation. 1a) You install the SQL scripts by hand. You copy them into the documentation directory. If I have the RPM guide correctly memorized, then the RPM macro %doc should do that and not a manual copy. 2) You install the Web-UI into the documentation directory. Any reason doing this? 2a) Same issue with the Web-UI as with the manually copied SQL purge scripts from topic 1a. I still don't see the point of Gentoo patches on stuff which, though it might not work on Gentoo, still works perfectly on Red Hat RHEL5 and FC6 and (judging from what the CVS stuff does) sigsegvs when I don't want it to. Best, --Tonni -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:07:30 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 11:59: [...] Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz Well, that was a simple wget into ~/rpm/SOURCES. [...] 1215 [tonni:tru.leerlingen] /home/tonni/rpm/SPECS $ rpmbuild -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec --with mysql [...] Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm But: rpm -qplv /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /etc/mail/dspam [...] -rwxr-xr-x1 dspam mail 146805 Dec 23 14:49 /usr/bin/dspam [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /var/spool/dspam You put stuff into Debian directories where Red Hat wouldn't put them, so I'm not going to install them, sorry ;) Is this more suiting your needs: # rpmbuild --with mysql --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0-1.1.spec Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.src.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm And here the content: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm: -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 9126 Dec 23 20:41 /etc/cron.daily/dspam.cron -rw-r-1 nobody mail30254 Dec 23 20:41 /etc/dspam.conf -rw-r-1 rootmail30254 Dec 23 20:41 /etc/dspam.conf.default -rw-r-1 rootroot 255 Dec 23 20:41 /etc/logrotate.d/dspam.logrotate -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1431 Apr 18 2007 /etc/rc.d/init.d/dspam -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 122158 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/cssclean -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 118060 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/cssconvert -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 118260 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/cssstat -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 209893 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot32342 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_2sql -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot34245 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_admin -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot40616 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_clean -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 8480 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_crc -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot33106 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_dump -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 4202 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_logrotate -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot35205 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_merge -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot37288 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_stats -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 6916 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspam_train -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 123406 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/bin/dspamc drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51488 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 850 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7 - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51657 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 310260 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 802 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 17 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so - libdspam.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:07:30 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: CC: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 11:59: [...] Let me know what you think about it? Can you compile with the spec file a RPM on your FC6 system? My first impression is that it's very professional, but also incredibly complicated. The internals are complicated. But I tried to make the outside (the interface with the user or package maker) as simple as possible. I think that most users anyway will not look into the spec. They just want a working and flexible spec file. The internal logic (complicated or not) does not interests them (most of the time). Looking for patches, the build of course couldn't find any: /bin/tar: /home/tonni/rpm/SOURCES/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory If you look inside the spec then you will see this: Source4: http://gentoo.osuosl.org/distfiles/dspam-3.8.0-patches-20071212.tar.gz Well, that was a simple wget into ~/rpm/SOURCES. [...] 1215 [tonni:tru.leerlingen] /home/tonni/rpm/SPECS $ rpmbuild -ba dspam-3.8.0.spec --with mysql [...] Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.src.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm Wrote: /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm But: rpm -qplv /home/tonni/rpm/RPMS/i386/dspam-3.8.0-1.0.i386.rpm [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /etc/mail/dspam [...] -rwxr-xr-x1 dspam mail 146805 Dec 23 14:49 /usr/bin/dspam [...] drwxr-xr-x2 dspam mail0 Dec 23 14:49 /var/spool/dspam You put stuff into Debian directories where Red Hat wouldn't put them, so I'm not going to install them, sorry ;) I attached a new spec file. This one should put the files +/- in the same layout as yours. Could you test that one? The cron script will probably not work as expected. I need to change it and make it flexible and generic. But before starting that I would like to have your okay for the layout inside the spec/rpm. I still don't see the point of Gentoo patches on stuff which, though it might not work on Gentoo, still works perfectly on Red Hat RHEL5 and FC6 and (judging from what the CVS stuff does) sigsegvs when I don't want it to. Best, --Tonni Steve -- Tony Earnshaw Email: tonni at hetnet dot nl -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger?did=10 dspam-3.8.0-1.1.spec Description: Binary data
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 19:53: [...] Is this more suiting your needs: I don't have any needs ;) Everything works for me. # rpmbuild --with mysql --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0-1.1.spec I don't call Clamav from dspam and never would - I call clamd from amavisd-new, together with BitDefender and Sophos AV. Where's your BitDefender here? Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.src.rpm It's generally considered bad practice for root to build rpms (or software at all, imagine the make cd'ing to a non-existent directory and doing 'rm -rf *') and you have to be root to build in the /usr/src/redhat/ hierarchy. I build as the mortal tonni in my own home directory and have a ~/.rpmmacros that gives the hierarchy. Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm I don't have a web rpm; I suppose I should (I don't use the web GUI). Then everything would have to go into /usr/share, according to Red Hat. And here the content: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm: Ok up to here ... [...] drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam I don't have a directory /usr/lib/dspam in 3.8.0, but ok. -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51488 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 850 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7 - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51657 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 All these go into /usr/lib. -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 310260 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 802 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 17 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so - libdspam.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 17 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7 - libdspam.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 227730 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7.0.0 Same as these. drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0 -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 210769 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/CHANGELOG -rw-r--r--1 rootroot89797 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/README -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 211 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/RELEASE.NOTES -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 3179 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/UPGRADING -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1409 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/courier.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 4221 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/exim.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 1629 May 17 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/markov.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 8431 Dec 23 20:39 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/mysql_drv.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 1505 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/osx.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 5925 Sep 24 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pgsql_drv.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1858 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pop3filter.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 7018 Jan 18 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/postfix.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 2372 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/qmail.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 6796 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/relay.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1312 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/sendmail.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 3704 May 25 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/sqlite_drv.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 3585 May 24 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/tests.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 4731 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 1138 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_clean.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 788 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_dump.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 940 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_merge.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 859 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_stats.1.gz -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 867 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/man/man1/dspam_train.1.gz drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /var/lib/dspam drw-r--r--2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /var/lib/dspam/opt-in drw-r--r--2 rootroot
RE: [dspam-users] RPM?
Tony. I think we all here on the list are for two simple reasons here: We either need or we want to give help. I am here because of the later. So if you have a segmentation fault then I declare your problem as my problem and try to fix it. Help me to get to the point where I can help. What do I need to do to replicate your problem in my environment? I can take a CentOS 5.1 system and play around with DSPAM. But you need to feed me with information so I can quickly nail the problem or draw a circle around the areas where the problem could be. Without that I am lost and can not help the way I would like. Well he does have too big ego to ask help ;) I think the first thing to do is to build a RPM having a Red Hat layout. If we get that, then we could start to work from that point. What do you think? Can you share your .spec file to me, I would like to take alook at it. I have used Tony's spec file, but done some smaall modify. My goal has been to make spec file almost exactly what you already does, but never had actually time to make it. Next thing when we have good spec file should be that it will be released to some repository. atrpms would be good because it support fedora and rhel.
Re: [dspam-users] RPM?
Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:42:18 +0100 Von: Tony Earnshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: dspam-users@lists.nuclearelephant.com Betreff: Re: [dspam-users] RPM? Steve skrev, on 23-12-2007 19:53: [...] Is this more suiting your needs: I don't have any needs ;) Everything works for me. Okay. Then my work was +/- for nothing :) # rpmbuild --with mysql --with clamav --with daemon --with syslog --with large-domain --with virtual_users --target=i686 -ba dspam-3.8.0-1.1.spec I don't call Clamav from dspam and never would - I call clamd from amavisd-new, together with BitDefender and Sophos AV. Where's your BitDefender here? Tonni! It is an example! I don't use ClamAV with DSPAM and have not planned to use it. I use Amavis-New with ClamAV, BitDefender, F-Prot and Sophos AV. Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/SRPMS/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.src.rpm It's generally considered bad practice for root to build rpms (or software at all, imagine the make cd'ing to a non-existent directory and doing 'rm -rf *') and you have to be root to build in the /usr/src/redhat/ hierarchy. I build as the mortal tonni in my own home directory and have a ~/.rpmmacros that gives the hierarchy. Don't worry. It is done in a chroot jail. I am no n00b. I do Linux since long time. A rm -rf * will not do any harm :). At least nothing I could not recover in 1 minute. Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-mysql_drv-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-devel-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-web-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm I don't have a web rpm; I suppose I should (I don't use the web GUI). Then everything would have to go into /usr/share, according to Red Hat. A static and dynamic (cgi stuff) web page goes into /usr/share? Since when is a web page a Unix System Resource (aka: usr)? Is this the way Red Hat is installing web pages? Under what directory in /usr/share? And here the content: /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i686/dspam-3.8.0-1.1.i686.rpm: Ok up to here ... [...] drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam I don't have a directory /usr/lib/dspam in 3.8.0, but ok. In Gentoo we separated the storage drivers into a separate directory. I just used the same approach with the RPM. -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51488 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 850 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 20 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7 - libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot51657 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/dspam/libhash_drv.so.7.0.0 All these go into /usr/lib. See above. -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 310260 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.a -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 802 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.la lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 17 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so - libdspam.so.7.0.0 lrwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 17 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7 - libdspam.so.7.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 227730 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/lib/libdspam.so.7.0.0 Same as these. See above. drwxr-xr-x2 rootroot0 Dec 23 20:41 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0 -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 210769 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/CHANGELOG -rw-r--r--1 rootroot89797 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/README -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 211 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/RELEASE.NOTES -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 3179 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/UPGRADING -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1409 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/courier.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 4221 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/exim.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 1629 May 17 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/markov.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 8431 Dec 23 20:39 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/mysql_drv.txt -rw-r--r--1 rootroot 1505 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/osx.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 5925 Sep 24 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pgsql_drv.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1858 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/pop3filter.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 7018 Jan 18 2006 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/postfix.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 2372 Mar 11 2005 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/qmail.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 6796 Mar 18 2007 /usr/share/doc/dspam-3.8.0/relay.txt -rwxr-xr-x1 rootroot 1312
