Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Jan, Funny you haven't picked up on this before, as this is a regular post from Bill (as you know) over on the DX QSL reflector. Nevertheless, don't shoot the messenger... in other words, Bill's data is only as good as what was sent to him. If someone gave him bad information (using a busted call no less) and he's had no corrections or updates, he has no way of knowing the information is bad. I'm copying Bill on this reply so that he's aware of this discrepancy. Can you get him the correct information on current acceptance of IRC's in SM so that he can bring his listings up to date? 73, ron wn3vaw - Original Message - From: Jan Erik Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs Strange. This W9OL list states IRC not accepted for Sweden. My post office in town sure accepts them so go figure. Guess I don´t beleive W9OL, besides he got the source wrong, SM4DQC is a broken call!! 73 Jim SM2EKM Ron Notarius wrote: Yes, W9OL has one. Here's a clip from his latest post on the issue: Creating and modifying the old text based IRC/GS Chart became difficult. We have taken a new approach. I've created two new forms. One in Excel format for download. http://www.qsl.net/w9ol/IRC_Chart.xls Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
HELLO TO ALL ONE DOLLAR IN GREECE IS OK. ONE AIR MAIL LETTER COST IS 0.65 EURO WITH ONE OR TWO QSLS CARDS ENCLUDING. BEST 73 MIKE SV1RK
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
This is the cost for Sweden: 1.35 Dollar or 1.08 Euro or 1 IRC That means, people sending Dollar bills need to send 2 Dollars. 1 Euro bill or 1 IRC is OK with me!! Or the bureau is also fine but ofcourse slow. If someone still needs a cards for my operations in SV5 SV9 CT3 and CN2KM I will be happy to confirm, right now all QSL requests are answered. I still have logs and QSL´s for these old calls: SM2DWH/S2 G5BHX GU5BHX and F0GUU 73 Jim SM2EKM --- mike-sv1rk wrote: HELLO TO ALL ONE DOLLAR IN GREECE IS OK. ONE AIR MAIL LETTER COST IS 0.65 EURO WITH ONE OR TWO QSLS CARDS ENCLUDING. BEST 73 MIKE SV1RK Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Is there a website somewhere with all this info for the various countries collected together in one place? I'd do it myself but I'm so busy these days I have a hard time just keeping up with the e-mail. Zack W9SZ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Jan Erik Holm wrote: This is the cost for Sweden: 1.35 Dollar or 1.08 Euro or 1 IRC That means, people sending Dollar bills need to send 2 Dollars. 1 Euro bill or 1 IRC is OK with me!! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Yes, W9OL has one. Here's a clip from his latest post on the issue: Creating and modifying the old text based IRC/GS Chart became difficult. We have taken a new approach. I've created two new forms. One in Excel format for download. http://www.qsl.net/w9ol/IRC_Chart.xls and Same design but ported to .htm http://www.qsl./w9ol/IRC_Chart.htm For the time being, I'll keep the old http://www.qsl.net/w9ol/ircchart.txt available but it will go in the future as the .xls format is a lot easier to maintain. I'd appreciate it if the Non USA hams would check the info as it seems to change much quicker than I get updates. Please check the notes sections also as them may not be pertinent any longer. Please and thank you 73, ron wn3vaw - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs Is there a website somewhere with all this info for the various countries collected together in one place? I'd do it myself but I'm so busy these days I have a hard time just keeping up with the e-mail. Zack W9SZ On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Jan Erik Holm wrote: This is the cost for Sweden: 1.35 Dollar or 1.08 Euro or 1 IRC That means, people sending Dollar bills need to send 2 Dollars. 1 Euro bill or 1 IRC is OK with me!! Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
I don't keep track of how the cards get to me, just IF they get to me. If I send for a card - bureau, manager or direct - I expect a reply. And I don't care how the reply comes in. And if an IRC or 2 or 3 or 4 will not cover air mail, I have no trouble with the bureau or surface mail.JUST SO IT GETS HERE! de Paul, W8AEF - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 3:12 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs What about the DX station that requests green stamps to cover the cost of mailing the card and then sends your card via the Buro?This has happened to me on numerous occassions and probably to just about everyone else.Mort/WA2ARS
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Strange. This W9OL list states IRC not accepted for Sweden. My post office in town sure accepts them so go figure. Guess I don´t beleive W9OL, besides he got the source wrong, SM4DQC is a broken call!! 73 Jim SM2EKM Ron Notarius wrote: Yes, W9OL has one. Here's a clip from his latest post on the issue: Creating and modifying the old text based IRC/GS Chart became difficult. We have taken a new approach. I've created two new forms. One in Excel format for download. http://www.qsl.net/w9ol/IRC_Chart.xls Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
Charlie, I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 I doubt that anyone is going to complain about a little bit extra to help out needy hams in the most underdeveloped countries. However, this thread started because a VK manager refuses to handle bureau cards and is asking for a $2 premium above the $2 (actually $1.35 US at current exchange rates) is actually costs to return a card. For managers in Europe, VK/ZL, the USA, VE ... even some of the leading developing nations of South America to behave that way is unacceptable. Not every DX-er is made of money - many even in the USA are retired and on fixed incomes. The round trip cost of a traditional QSL (card, two envelopes, postage, two green stamps) is more than $3.00 and that's not a throw away for some. 73, ... Joe, W4TV (ex K4IK) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs
I disagree. First, some people have tried to get rich at ham radio. How successful they were is debatable, but certainly no one would argue that none have tried. Second, In trying to walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means I believe I would be content and happy to send out thousands of QSL cards so long as I zeroed out the cost of making the cards and return postage. I say this as a US op of modest means. To me, and I'm sure to many other hams QSLing is a pleasurable and integral part of ham radio. Those who consider it a chore and send a card only if they receive more than the cost of sending one should be scorned. lastly, some old ideas are still viable. If I send a card to a DX station with sufficient return postage attached I do expect a card in return. This expectation is based on my own set of ham radio values instilled in me for over 50 years. Why screw around with traditions that have served us well for so long? It's up to the new ops to adjust to our hobby's traditions and values not the other way around. Charles, You're a fine guy but I would not try to shame your fellow hams nor try to establish standards based on your own set of values. We are all different and entitled to practice our hobby in our own way. What you do is your business. Enough said. 73. Ken - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL Costs
One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains about theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in another country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if such stations aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should either tell stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned above. Mike W2LO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs
Amen Mike!! Very simple workable solution. 73 Russ W4UBC - Original Message - From: Mike Mattes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 7:03 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] QSL Costs One of the most irritating things in QSLing is the DX op who complains about theft in his country's postal system yet never gets a manager in another country with a more secure postal system. One has to wonder if such stations aren't DXing for dollars. If they're not, then they should either tell stations to 1)not send cards or 2)get a manager as mentioned above. Mike W2LO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] QSL costs
What about the DX station that requests green stamps to cover the cost of mailing the card and then sends your card via the Buro? This has happened to me on numerous occassions and probably to just about everyone else. Mort/WA2ARS - Original Message - From: "Charles Harpole" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: [personal] [DX-CHAT] QSL costs I am disappointed to hear that any USA ham would not want to be generous with DX QSLing. A can of sugar water soda out of the vending machine is now a US dollar. We gotta get away from the old ideas that somehow we are owed a QSL card and want to send the minimum or less to help get one. I think any US ham should send any DX ham FIVE US DOLLARS freely if he wants a card back. Can we be so cheap otherwise? No one is gonna get rich at ham radio, believe me. If u disagree with me, please walk in the shoes of DX ops of modest means; then decide. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]
