RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2008-04-23 Thread WX5L
Maybe an alternative would be to mark that originating email as junk
email and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox. 

73,
Randy
WX5L

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

If you are receiving the spam entitled Radio-Amateurs+ART, I suggest you
forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following
addresses:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail
may
have originated from.

I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the
response I
received is basically, If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail
address
from the Internet.

73 - Jim AD1C


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2008-04-23 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Randy,

The offending (and I do mean offending) party is of the opinion that since
you, as a ham, have an email address, he has the right to send you his junk
mail pushing his alleged art work.  And he changes ISP's with enough
frequency that simply blocking his address (or sending it to the bit bucket)
is a temporary measure.

If you try to ask him to simply remove you from future mailings, as Jim and
I and countless others have done in the past -- not at all an unreasonable
request -- he either claims it's too much bother, or is not technically
feasible considering the number of mailings he sends out daily; or je
replies along the lines that Jim mentions.

Sadly, I fear that the ultimate result of Jim's suggestion is that IF the
ISP's in question remove the offender from their service... he'll find
someone else.  And, sadly, there's always someone else.

(Personally, I think we should arrange for him to be bound and gagged in a
small room and subjected to a non-stop playing of the rhythm of the code
for a few days.  It drove people nutz in the Hamvention flea market after
only a few hours... dang, it's not constitutional, cruel and unusual
punishment.)

73, ron w3wn

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WX5L
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART


Maybe an alternative would be to mark that originating email as junk
email and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox.

73,
Randy
WX5L

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

If you are receiving the spam entitled Radio-Amateurs+ART, I suggest you
forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following
addresses:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail
may
have originated from.

I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the
response I
received is basically, If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail
address
from the Internet.

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2008-04-23 Thread David Yarnes
I am vehemently opposed to waterboarding---EXCEPT when it comes to spammers! 
I say, drown the SOB's.


Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART


Randy,

The offending (and I do mean offending) party is of the opinion that since
you, as a ham, have an email address, he has the right to send you his junk
mail pushing his alleged art work.  And he changes ISP's with enough
frequency that simply blocking his address (or sending it to the bit bucket)
is a temporary measure.

If you try to ask him to simply remove you from future mailings, as Jim and
I and countless others have done in the past -- not at all an unreasonable
request -- he either claims it's too much bother, or is not technically
feasible considering the number of mailings he sends out daily; or je
replies along the lines that Jim mentions.

Sadly, I fear that the ultimate result of Jim's suggestion is that IF the
ISP's in question remove the offender from their service... he'll find
someone else.  And, sadly, there's always someone else.

(Personally, I think we should arrange for him to be bound and gagged in a
small room and subjected to a non-stop playing of the rhythm of the code
for a few days.  It drove people nutz in the Hamvention flea market after
only a few hours... dang, it's not constitutional, cruel and unusual
punishment.)

73, ron w3wn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WX5L
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART


Maybe an alternative would be to mark that originating email as junk
email and send it to your garbage can and not even see it in your inbox.

73,
Randy
WX5L

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:25 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

If you are receiving the spam entitled Radio-Amateurs+ART, I suggest you
forward the message (along with your complaint) to one of the following
addresses:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you know how, you can scan the mail headers to see which host the mail
may
have originated from.

I have tried to contact the person who sends these messages, and the
response I
received is basically, If you don't want the mail, remove your E-mail
address
from the Internet.

73 - Jim AD1C


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2007-03-20 Thread Tom Anderson

Jim:

What a bunch of hokey.  ON4AW started the mess, but now isn't willing to 
take responsibility for it.  The whole thing reads like some of the 
answers I used to get from some Texas politicians when I was a newspaper 
reporter for 20+ years.  He started it, but isn't willing to fix it.


I can't see how he's gotten 165,000 favorable replies when his e-mail 
address bounces like an NBA basketball.


This e-mail is like one I started receiving several years ago when I was 
in graduate school at TCU in Fort Worth.  The assistant women's 
basketball coach somehow got into the university's computer server and 
sent an e-mail to any and all students and former students that still 
had a tcu.edu e-mail address. She was looking for male students to form 
a practice team the women's basketball team could scrimmage weekly.


You almost had to have a university e-mail because that was how the 
university notified you of overdue library books, unpaid school 
accounts, etc.  This also was in the days before cable and DSL, although 
students on campus had access to T-1 lines.  I was taking some 
post-masters classes at the time.


Anyway the computer geeks who worked at the university never figured out 
how she did it because those addresses were behind several layers of 
protection, they said.  She was supposed to send her e-mail to the 
computer office at TCU and they would send it to one big mail list under 
one e-mail address, not 8,000-10,000 separate addresses.


The e-mail she sent out had something like 10,000-15,000 e-mail 
addresses listed for current and former students and for some reason I 
would get two copies of it almost daily for months. Even setting filters 
on my e-mail browser didn't help. I finally got some help from the tech 
folks at GTE/Verizon who told me how to access my e-mails without using 
Netscape's e-mail program.  The university finally even deleted the 
forwarding plan I had (like arrl.net e-mails), but somehow this doggone 
huge e-mail still found my inbox.


With a dialup system it took 10-15 minutes to download.  I once tried to 
reply to it and tell the coach to quit sending it out and after 15 
minutes of waiting for all the e-mail addresses to load (unfortunately I 
had hit reply all) I finally just killed the thing. When I did reply to 
just her, she never did take responsibility for it, as she was more 
interested in finding a practice team than taking responsibility for the 
computer problems she caused.


Tom, WW5L





Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Here is a response I received back from ON4AW.  I had to laugh at the p.s..

73 - Jim AD1C

[content edited for punctuation and spelling]

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700
From: marie acke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART

Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a
list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send
you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on
the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has
found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with
others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have
already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000
hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you
would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother
you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the
trash. Thank you.

Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are
most active / 73 ON4AW

P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the
Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some
radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your
consent, ask them to remove you.



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2007-03-20 Thread john


He sounds like the perfect candidate to:

1) test your killfile/email trash filter on
2) meet Paul Vixie.

73
John K5MO






At 10:05 AM 3/20/2007, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:

Here is a response I received back from ON4AW.  I had to laugh at the p.s..

73 - Jim AD1C

[content edited for punctuation and spelling]

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700
From: marie acke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART

Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a
list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send
you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on
the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has
found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with
others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have
already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000
hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you
would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother
you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the
trash. Thank you.

Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are
most active / 73 ON4AW

P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the
Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some
radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your
consent, ask them to remove you.



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RE: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2007-03-20 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Translation:  It's our own fault that he's spamming us, because we had the
audacity to make our email addresses available somewhere on the Internet
where Google or another search engine can find them.  And he has no control
over it.  So if you don't like it, trash it or don't post your email
address.

Sounds like a politician.  He just CAN'T help himself, so by enabling him,
it's your fault!

What a crock.  I'd be more specific, but this is a family reflector, and I'm
supposed to try and set a good example.

73

-Original Message-
From: Jim Reisert AD1C
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:06 AM
To: dx-chat@Njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART


Here is a response I received back from ON4AW.  I had to laugh at the
p.s..

73 - Jim AD1C

[content edited for punctuation and spelling]

Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:56:27 -0700
From: marie acke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Radio-Amateurs+ART

Dear OM Jim, thank you for your message. I cannot remove you from a
list, because I have no list. It has never been my intention to send
you more than once that mail. But I am searching for Radio-Amateurs on
the Internet with Google. That means, that without doubt, Google has
found you several times, and then, your mail is sent, together with
others, in a package. It is impossible for me to control if I have
already sent this mail to you, because up to now, more than 165000
hams from 121 countries have given me favorable answers. So if you
would receive the same mail in the future, this is not meant to bother
you or to annoy you. In such a case, please simply throw it into the
trash. Thank you.

Till we meet in a QSO on the 20 m band or the 15 m band, where we are
most active / 73 ON4AW

P.S. the simplest solution would be to remove your email from the
Internet. Your true friends and family-members know your mail. If some
radio-amateur-group has put you on the net, probably without your
consent, ask them to remove you.



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Re: [DX-CHAT] Radio-Amateurs+ART

2007-03-20 Thread Dan Zimmerman N3OX

Has anyone tried to report him to the Belgian spam authorities?

There are often email addresses to which you can forward offending messages.

Dan


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