Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Shame on you unhappy campers...these guys deserve credit for undertaking this chore..it is hard work to say the least.the heat, bugs, landcrabs and all the other diversions. Aak anyone who has ever done this. I heard them stand by for EU last night and JA this morning. They are doing their job as best they can. You should be able to find where he is listening with a little effort; you cant depend on a cluster. NormK1AA - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kurt W. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:09 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. This is the first time I have ever heard of poor spots. This is unbelievable!!! These guys taking their time, money, etc and staying up for hours without sleep in a tent at 120 degrees and you complaining about the quality of the THEIR operation... You should be ashamed of yourself... I, and many others, worked them on 30 meters yesterday. It took me about 15 minutes. Have you ever tried golf? Sounds like you need a change. Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Kurt W. Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-news@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: RE: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Future reference why not give some indication, from time to time, where you are listing. I spend 3 hours, call me foolish... and I still don't know if I'm in the log for 30m. I thought I heard him reply to me... Is it me just getting old and cranky? 73; Kurt - W2MW -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php scroll to bottom for subscribe/unsubscribe options -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX, and sometimes made the honor roll after years of hard work, before computers, clusters, and spots? Did I miss something (I am getting old) where it was decreed that working DX should be easy, lack of skill not withstanding? There is a fundamental law of human nature which states that the easier the task the lower the feeling of accomplishment. Urb, W2DEC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Hi Osten, That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Yes, they may be calling Europe now - but it's been dark here since hours, not a chance on 17 m. Some hours earlier when he was 59 here he only worked USA. Yes, I heard him once call Europe only but he didn't say USA stand by so after working two EU's he went on working USA... Also, propagations are very different between south Europe and up here near the arctic circle! We see a lot of TV-programs from USA, and children have no idea about Europe and the countries here. I need KP5 on 17 and 30 meters, have lots of cards from before 1993 - we were supposed not to call if we didn't need it for a totally new one, but I have heard a lot of US-stations which for sure have worked KP5 before! 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Hi Osten, That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!! Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org; Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Jim! It was easier before packet, clusters etc. as not everyone was calling at he same time - the clusters have destroyed DX-ing, and AK1A got into CQ DX Hall of Fame for inventing it... Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't know it yet! 73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jim Reisert AD1C [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote: Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m. Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening. I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same frustration spending way too much time trying to find out where to transmit. Whatever happened to good old fashioned listening? Kurt, I'm not trying to single you out, but we should not need to have every QSO spotted so we know the listening frequency! How did we ever work DX *before* packet? 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Jim writes:How did we ever work DX *before* packet? You know how we did..with paper logs, finding the right spot by hunting and a lot of patience. Looks like our push button culture has moved in on the DX scene. 73Norm K1AA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:58:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX... No Urb, you didn't miss anything. It's the people that not only want but expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter that missed something. Mort/WA2ARS
RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
I can still recall working one of the (if not the) last KP5/KP2A DXpeditions to Desecheo... the pileups tended to be big, but I was still able to get them on three bands. Near the end of the DXpedition, I heard them calling CQ on 10 -- with no takers -- early one morning. Obviously the band had just opened and no one else had stumbled on them (yet) -- remember, this was in the days before packet cluster had really taken off. The op was a young man with a caribbean call (off hand I can't recall it, I think it was a V4 call tho). We chatted for a few minutes, and I even asked if he wanted to work me as KP5/his call -- he couldn't, his US license (a Novice call, I believe) didn't have the privileges at that time for phone in the part of the band we were in. Funny thing... and sad to say, I wonder if this would happen today... we didn't have a single interuption or break for the 5 or 10 minutes we ragchewed. But after those few minutes, I said something to the effect of I wonder if the band has opened up yet and if there's anyone else waiting to work you... KP5/KP2A from WN3VAW. Not more than a moment after I signed, minor bedlam descended as the pileup began... and I sat back, sipped my coffee, and listened... 73, ron wn3vaw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrei Nevis Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; john; dx-news@njdxa.org Subject: Re: Re: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. Guys did Good job, Bravest Men! I still remember the time, about 10-11 years ago, I was on 80 meters and heard KP5/W5... Just do not remember the callsign off hand. Well, they were CQing lonely. I called them, got report, then asked the guys to QSY on 40 meters, no problem. Then they came back to 80 meters. Meanwhile, I called several Ham friends in W3, W5, and W7 I beleive, and told them that KP5 is on the air. My friends turned on their Radios, called KP5 and got the new one. (Well, it was not new for all of them) What are we facing now? Agents, Cops, Lawyers, Bulletproofs, etc? Oh, My God... My Hat's is off to K3LP. 73's Andrei EW1AR-NC2N (was AA3BG ten years ago) p.s. About the same 10 years ago, I was active from KP4/AA3BG etc. I have a good friend there, he is Ham Radio Operator, and used to work for KP4 Governeur for a long time. We had a paper, signed by the Governeur of Puerto Rico - to go to KP5, and guess what, that paper was overturned by wild life agents, some like that... Whatever, Season's Greetings to everybody. 73's Andrei EW1AR-NC2N Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John: It was interesting to hear K3LP/KH5 go QRT after working a W8 QRP staion, something like they're right behind me now. and then silence. Someone said on one of the lists why didn't they try to reason with the FWS agents (if thats who the cops were). I was a newspaper reporter for 20+ years and went on many different raids or busts or whatever you want to call them with city police, state police, and some federal agents, on all kinds of operations, even with the Texas Comptroller's Office tax agents when they raided busineeses for not paying state sales taxes they collected. (and an aside my sister-in-law was a Texas state revenue agent back in the 1980s), During nearly every operation officers never gave anyone a chance to explain or reason first, that might have come later, but they always wanted to get control of the situation first and then maybe listen later. Remember the photo of the INS agent holding an automatic weapon on Elian Gonzales the little Cuban child that had been ordered sent back to Cuba from Miami? This was a simple child return case, but the INS agent was wearing a stell helment, bulletproof vest, holding an autpomatic weapon, etc. and the look on Elian's face was something else looking down the barrel of that automatic weapon. As another aside, that photo won a Pulitzer Prize for news photography. I'm sure K3LP, et.al. will have a heck of a story to tell once they get back. Tom, WW5L From: john Date: Sat Dec 17 12:32:06 CST 2005 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-news@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m. At 12:30 PM 12/17/2005, Tom Anderson wrote: K3LP/KH5 just announced that the feds apparently the USFWS cops were headed to shut them down. There's a lot of folks anxious to hear the rest of the story... about this. Glad to have snagged 'em last night on 40ssb. John K5MO -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/205 - Release Date: 12/16/2005 -- Archives http://www.mail-archive.com/dx-news@njdxa.org THE DXR is sponsored by the North Jersey DX Association. Please visit our website: http://www.njdxa.org/index.php
