[DX-CHAT] re:lotw

2004-04-20 Thread Kz2i


oh, i agree with you scott. lotw will be the way to go. i wouldn't have loaded 32,000 q's if i didn't think so. it's eqsl that i don't understand. as far as i know, no major awards support it - or plan to. i think even the cq awards (and we all know the history between arrl and cq) will eventually support lotw and vice versa.

i'm approaching (faster than i care to admit) the other end of the age line. i will still support dxpeditions (important for all of us to do) and want that pasteboard for an all timenew one, but it sure would be nice to work a band/country and have it confirmed quickly electronically. i plan to upload logs on a monthly basis, if only to make it easy on my aging memory. heck, i'm old enough to remember getting credit for qsos in the arrl dx contestif the other guy sent in log. 

hopefully, once the plan gets rolling, the guys on the other side will use it too. that's the part that could kill the benefit of the system. i would bet the farm that the majority of the qso's entered so far come from contest entries (i know mine are) where the entering station already had the data entered through contest software with convertible formats. that would also apply to modern dxpeditions. i'm hoping arrl will FULLY understand this and push to provide software and training for overseas guys, even if it is at club/organiztion level. if an old dog like me can use lotw as it is set up now, it should become easier as the bugs are worked out. but it's important to start now. provide easy to use, CHEAP/FREE logging software with lotw interface NOW so that the hurdle of inputting thousands of paper qsos becomes less daunting in the future. it's the "real" qsos (non contest/dxpedtion) that we need to strive to get into lotw. 

most of the responses i received were from stateside. i realize lotw is perceived right now as dxcc oriented, but do other organizationsout there in the big world have plans to use it? the big one i can think of, that i have not gotten into yet, is IOTA? 

like i said, i'm reaching the age where i may not see this program implemented to it's fullest, but it's you young whippersnappers (love that word) that have to get on the band wagon and make sure arrl makes lotw what YOU want it to be. as with any software, user input is critical. especially at the start. ask questions. make suggestion. ya never know, it might be a "DOH!! why didn't we think of that" idea.

enough from me. and i apologize for the long monologue. it was that third cup of coffee this morning.

73 de STEVE, KZ2ICHARLOTTE, NC USA


Re: [DX-CHAT] re:lotw

2004-04-20 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) Watson

Well said Steve. There is an elongated discussion in
progress on another forum about domestic QSLs and a participant in that
discussion asked if there is any form of domestic QSL bureau, to which I
reply YES!! It's called LOTW. In my opinion, LOTW is
the greatest thing since canned beer( sliced bread for you
tee-totalers). Please participate. LOTW is a large,
complex project and will take a while to fully implement, but it will be
well worth the wait. It will only get better.

73
Mike, W5UC



At 08:40 AM 4/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
oh, i
agree with you scott. lotw will be the way to go. i wouldn't
have loaded 32,000 q's if i didn't think so.

73 de STEVE,
KZ2I
CHARLOTTE, NC USA

Age and treachery will overcome youth and
skill
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[DX-CHAT] LoTW concerns

2004-04-20 Thread Charles Harpole
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I have watched a fellow ham and computer expert labor to insert my logs 
into
LoTW.  As someone who does not know what that ham is doing, I can still
observe the great number of careful steps he has had to take and he
knows what he is doing.  He has put in about 8 hours so far and is not done
yet on less than 7000 contacts in four logs.  He has been successful with
other logs while discovering bugs in the system early on.

My point is that I can not imagine many lone foreign hams (especially in
places where email is very expensive and troublesome in itself) taking the
time and trouble to jump thru all the hoops and keep going when the steps
fail some of the time to put his log into LoTW.  I guess DXpeditions will
have the talent and grit available to do the work, but what of the other
guys?
I recommend that the DX section of ARRL start a program to identify and
publicize a set of computer experts with time on their hands to stand by to
adopt  any ham who may have trouble with LoTW, especially DX hams.  This
system could be similar to a temporary QSL manager or Elmer to address this
issue.
What's say, OMs???  73,

Charles Harpole
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