[ECOLOG-L] Peer review, etc.

[Abad Boiy]

I agree with Atanu.

The free riders are the publishers, journals, etc. that profit from  
the current system--they charge authors to publish papers, they own  
the copyrights, they usually do not allow or charge additional fees  
for authors to post their work to their own website, and then they  
expect us to review 'for free' lest we be 'free riders',  
'unprofessional', etc.  Well then, I guess some people will choose to  
be 'free riders' and 'unprofessional'.  If enough people make this  
choice, the system will either collapse or be forced to change.


Abad



On Mar 30, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Atanu Mukherjee  wrote:

Sorry, you're just judging me without really knowing me.

"The economics are really rather different." - Prove it. Why lot of good
reviewers are NOT interested in reviewing anymore then?

"Careful, conscientious reviewing takes attention span, which is in
chronically short supply and is differentially compensated." What did you
mean by "differentially compensated", exactly?

"Productive people continue to review for "free" because they also need
reviewers to get their papers published." - If that was the case then why
did the thread started otherwise?

"If you are not reviewing at least 2-3 times the number of papers that you
submit for publication, then you are "free-riding" on the peer review
system and that behavior is not professional at all." - Not relevant at
all, just bogus personal opinion advocating current flaw-filled peer
reviewing process. If you wanna be professional, act like a professional by
paying a good salary to the reviewers and see the change you want. Period.



On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Henebry, Geoffrey <
geoffrey.hene...@sdstate.edu> wrote:

The economics are really rather different.

Careful, conscientious reviewing takes attention span, which is in
chronically short supply and is differentially compensated.

Productive people continue to review for "free" because they also need
reviewers to get their papers published.

If you are not reviewing at least 2-3 times the number of papers that you
submit for publication, then you are "free-riding" on the peer review
system and that behavior is not professional at all.

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Co-Director, Geospatial Sciences Center of Excellence (GSCE)
South Dakota State University
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Yes, people would continue declining to do reviews because at the end they
don't see an extra penny. Let me ask you how much the journals charge for a
paper? Lot of the journals charge a decent amount of money to the authors
for publishing but the people who perform the major role behind the
journals' success get unpaid. Sorry, either you pay the reviewers (nobody
is interested in your subscription waiver or something like that) a
standard money or you keep seeing the trend: "so many people decline to do
reviews these days". When you're doing business, be professional.

Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Chris Elvidge]

Hi All,

This one is actually a serious stats paper but the end product is basically
a tasting guide for regional Scotches:

Lapointe, F.-J., Legendre, P. (1994) A Classification of Pure Malt Scotch
Whiskies. Journal of the Royal Statistical Society. Series C (Applied
Statistics) 43: 237-257. http://www.jstor.org/stable/2986124

On 26 March 2015 at 11:39, Meretsky, Vicky J.  wrote:

> There is a serious paper by Hurlbert (1990), Spatial distribution of the
> montane unicorn, that is hilarious. Somehow, he was able to get the editors
> at Oikos to allow him to add tiny unicorns to his graphics (really - check
> out http://pascencio.cos.ucf.edu/classes/Methods/Hurbelrt%20unicorn.pdf ).
>
> His point was that people badly misinterpret variance/mean ratios as
> having anything useful to say about spatial distribution. He created some
> counterexamples to demonstrate his point, whilst poking holes in articles
> by rather august personages that were guilty of the sin against which he
> was inveighing.
>
> The whole thing is simultaneously tongue-in-cheek (a gentle
> double-breasted distribution is shown by the unicorns that clamber about
> the Grand Tetons) and quite serious.
>
>
> Hurlbert, S.H. 1990. Spatial distribution of the montane unicorn. Oikos
> 58: 257-271.
>
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Vicky Meretsky
>
>
> Professor
> School of Public and Environmental Affairs
> Indiana University
> Bloomington, Indiana
>



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Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Meretsky, Vicky J.]

There is a serious paper by Hurlbert (1990), Spatial distribution of the 
montane unicorn, that is hilarious. Somehow, he was able to get the editors at 
Oikos to allow him to add tiny unicorns to his graphics (really - check out 
http://pascencio.cos.ucf.edu/classes/Methods/Hurbelrt%20unicorn.pdf ).

His point was that people badly misinterpret variance/mean ratios as having 
anything useful to say about spatial distribution. He created some 
counterexamples to demonstrate his point, whilst poking holes in articles by 
rather august personages that were guilty of the sin against which he was 
inveighing.

The whole thing is simultaneously tongue-in-cheek (a gentle double-breasted 
distribution is shown by the unicorns that clamber about the Grand Tetons) and 
quite serious.


Hurlbert, S.H. 1990. Spatial distribution of the montane unicorn. Oikos 58: 
257-271.


Enjoy.

Vicky Meretsky


Professor
School of Public and Environmental Affairs
Indiana University
Bloomington, Indiana

Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Stefanie Broszeit]

Dear Gary,
There is a paper by Munz et al from 2009 entitled: When zombies attack:
mathematical modelling of an outbreak of zombie infection.
The introduction references are zombie movies but then there is some
serious modelling in that paper. That might be something you can use for
teaching.
Hope it helps,

Stef


On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Gary Grossman  wrote:

> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
> there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
>
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
>
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
>
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
>
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
> university email.
>
> TIA, g2
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
>
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
>
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
>
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish
>



-- 
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Woods, Brad]

This one came across my radar this morning (apologies if it has already been 
mentioned):

Myers, K.A. (2010). Cigarette smoking: an underused tool in high-performance 
endurance training. Canadian Medical Association Journal 182(18):E867-E869.



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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Mickey Jarvi
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:08 PM
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

Jones I.R. & Allen E. (2002) Detection of large woody debris accumulations in 
old-growth forests using sonic wave collection. Transactions of the important 
tree scientists 120(2): 201-209.

Synopsis: "results show strongly that if a tree does fall in the forest, and no 
one hears it, it does indeed make a sound".

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Gary Grossman  wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I 
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't 
> really want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's 
> Digest but there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice 
> vis pdfs)
> 
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that 
> comprised the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
> 
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
> 
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no 
> one heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
> 
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond 
> to my university email.
> 
> TIA, g2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
> 
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources University of Georgia 
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
> 
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ <http://www.arches.uga.edu/%7Egrossman>
> 
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation Editorial 
> Board - Freshwater Biology Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish

Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Daniel Montesinos]

Can't resist to share this one about the importance of drinking beer for
scientific productivity. A paper from the Czech Republic, of course!

"A recent paper suggested that alcohol consumption might deal a blow to a
very sacred cow – scientifi productivity (Grim 2008). Great numbers of
comments followed. As noted by Sheil et al. (2008), the ‘‘Grim’s study
cleverly
highlights a more *general lesson*. His analyses and presentation follow
accepted practices in evolutionary ecology.
These are too seldom challenged. It appears we only notice failings when we
are motivated by fiding ourselves in the
study population.’’

http://www.web-ecol.net/9/24/2009/we-9-24-2009.html
http://www.web-ecol.net/9/24/2009/we-9-24-2009.pdf



On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Gary Grossman  wrote:

> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
> there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
>
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
>
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
>
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
>
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
> university email.
>
> TIA, g2
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
>
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
>
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
>
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish
>



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Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Scott Atkinson]

Apparently eating vegemite and talking with an Aussie accent can reduce the
risk of dropbear attack. Really.

Volker Janssen (2012): Indirect Tracking of Drop Bears Using GNSS
Technology, Australian Geographer, 43:4, 445-452

(accessible here:
http://eprints.utas.edu.au/15881/1/2012_Janssen_AusGeog_journal_version.pdf)

And don't forget to check out the reference list; it's equally as
hilarious. Crikey!

Cheers,
Scott Atkinson




On 25 March 2015 at 00:54, Gary Grossman  wrote:

> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
> there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
>
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
>
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
>
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
>
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
> university email.
>
> TIA, g2
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
>
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
>
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
>
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish
>



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Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Proceedings of the Natural Institute of Science]

Since we're talking about satirical papers, we would just like to notify
everybody of our journal, The Proceedings of the Natural Institute of
Science. We publish satirical articles (based on fake data), real articles
(based on real data collected on trivial topics), and editorials (whatever). 

We recently started Volume 2, and we even take submissions for articles (we
currently have a 100% acceptance rate, and no page charges!). Our journal is
online-only and is completely open access.

We'd be thrilled if you checked us out!

Thanks,
Editor-in-Chief, Proceedings of the Natural Institute of Science

Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Mickey Jarvi]

Jones I.R. & Allen E. (2002) Detection of large woody debris accumulations in 
old-growth forests using sonic wave collection. Transactions of the important 
tree scientists 120(2): 201-209.

Synopsis: "results show strongly that if a tree does fall in the forest, and no 
one hears it, it does indeed make a sound".

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Gary Grossman  wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
> there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
> 
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
> 
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
> 
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
> 
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
> university email.
> 
> TIA, g2
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
> 
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
> 
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
> 
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish

Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Bastian Bentlage]

Since made-up creatures came up as teaching tools: there are Sokal and
Rolf's Caminalcules which I have used before to teach taxonomy and
phylogenetic systematics.

Wikipedia has a pertinent summary and the relevant citations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caminalcules

Cheers,
Basti

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Malcolm McCallum <
malcolm.mccallum.ta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not an article, but when I taught Genetics, in order to lighten up the
> tests and to avoid various issues, I uses mythical creatures as problems.
> I recall one, alled the bonacum (I think I spelled it right) in which the
> animal would release toxic gas as a defense.  I set up a screwy genetics
> problem with epistasis, co-dominance, and lethal alleles in which under
> certain circumstances the bonacum would inherit a lethal allele in which it
> could not release its gas, so the gas would build up internally until the
> animal exploded raining fetid pesulance on its surroundings.
>
> Yes, I frequently do this kind of thing on tests.  Hard to pull the "I read
> in book X that this particular animal does Y" if you use an example that
> simply does not exist and the a scenario that is complete BS.  :)
>
> Not sure if it would be helpful to you or not, but there it is.
>
> Malcolm
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Gary Grossman  wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> > can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> > want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest
> but
> > there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
> >
> > In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> > the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
> >
> > Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> > estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
> >
> > And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> > heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
> >
> > Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> > Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to
> my
> > university email.
> >
> > TIA, g2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gary D. Grossman, PhD
> >
> > Professor of Animal Ecology
> > Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> > University of Georgia
> > Athens, GA, USA 30602
> >
> > http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
> >
> > Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> > Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> > Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Malcolm L. McCallum, PHD, REP
> Environmental Studies Program
> Green Mountain College
> Poultney, Vermont
>
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> of animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a
> many-faceted treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature lovers
> alike, and it forms a vital part of the heritage we all share as
> Americans.”
> -President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of 1973
> into law.
>
> "Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan
> Nation
>
> 1880's: "There's lots of good fish in the sea"  W.S. Gilbert
> 1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
> and pollution.
> 2000:  Marine reserves, ecosystem restoration, and pollution reduction
>   MAY help restore populations.
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>
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> Knowledge w/o character
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Re: [ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Malcolm McCallum]

Not an article, but when I taught Genetics, in order to lighten up the
tests and to avoid various issues, I uses mythical creatures as problems.
I recall one, alled the bonacum (I think I spelled it right) in which the
animal would release toxic gas as a defense.  I set up a screwy genetics
problem with epistasis, co-dominance, and lethal alleles in which under
certain circumstances the bonacum would inherit a lethal allele in which it
could not release its gas, so the gas would build up internally until the
animal exploded raining fetid pesulance on its surroundings.

Yes, I frequently do this kind of thing on tests.  Hard to pull the "I read
in book X that this particular animal does Y" if you use an example that
simply does not exist and the a scenario that is complete BS.  :)

Not sure if it would be helpful to you or not, but there it is.

Malcolm

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Gary Grossman  wrote:

> I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
> can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
> want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
> there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)
>
> In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
> the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"
>
> Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
> estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.
>
> And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
> heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"
>
> Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
> Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
> university email.
>
> TIA, g2
>
>
>
>
> --
> Gary D. Grossman, PhD
>
> Professor of Animal Ecology
> Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
> University of Georgia
> Athens, GA, USA 30602
>
> http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 
>
> Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
> Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
> Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish
>



-- 
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Environmental Studies Program
Green Mountain College
Poultney, Vermont

 “Nothing is more priceless and worthy of preservation than the rich array
of animal life with which our country has been blessed. It is a
many-faceted treasure, of value to scholars, scientists, and nature lovers
alike, and it forms a vital part of the heritage we all share as Americans.”
-President Richard Nixon upon signing the Endangered Species Act of 1973
into law.

"Peer pressure is designed to contain anyone with a sense of drive" - Allan
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1990's:  Many fish stocks depleted due to overfishing, habitat loss,
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  MAY help restore populations.
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[ECOLOG-L] peer review

[Gary Grossman]

I'm looking for funny articles published and a few come to mind that I
can't remember citations for so I thought I'd ask here.  I don't really
want to page through J. Irreproducable Results or Worm Runner's Digest but
there are a few I'm hoping someone can help me with (vice vis pdfs)

In either the late 70's or 80's there was a note in Nature that comprised
the poem and reviewers comments on Shelley's *"Ozymandias*"

Then at about the same time someone published a paper in Limn. & Ocean.
estimating the biomass of the Loch Ness monster.

And also at some point someone published a satirical paper on "if no one
heard it, did the tree in the forest really fall?"

Of course any other humorous gems would be appreciated.
Please remember the list doesn't allow attachments, so please respond to my
university email.

TIA, g2




-- 
Gary D. Grossman, PhD

Professor of Animal Ecology
Warnell School of Forestry & Natural Resources
University of Georgia
Athens, GA, USA 30602

http://grossman.myweb.uga.edu/ 

Board of Editors - Animal Biodiversity and Conservation
Editorial Board - Freshwater Biology
Editorial Board - Ecology Freshwater Fish

[ECOLOG-L] peer-review thought experiment

[Chris Lortie]

Hi Ecolog, 

My colleagues and I are brainstorming on why papers get rejected and what 
should happen to them. 
There seems to be this common view in our discipline that only the 'best' work 
should be published to 
advance research. This would be great but every paper/journal/study can't be 
the best; so what about 
studies that fail to support a major hypothesis or are confirmatory in nature 
or are preliminary? 
Surely, these must also advance science. If you recently recommended rejection 
of a paper, consider 
taking a second and answer these quick questions as a thought experiment on the 
topic. 

https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/rejected-ecology 

We are considering these issues due to the research works act, the land of 
misfit toys, and alternative 
ways we might communicate our research (perhaps not as replacements but 
alternatives/supplements 
to regular journals) - provided we agree that rejected papers still need a home 
and that perhaps it is 
time to experiment with other journal models for ecology. 
cheers, 
chris lortie.

[ECOLOG-L] Peer review workshop at ESA annual meeting

[Rob Salguero-Gomez]

Dear ecologgers:

We would like to bring to your attention the following workshop to be held
at the ESA annual meeting this year and to solicit questions from those of
you interested in the peer-review process from the reviewer's perspective.

We have organized a workshop on "Things they don't typically teach you in
grad school: peer review inside-out", to be held on Thursday, August 11th
from 11.30am to 1.15pm in Austin Convention Center room 5. This workshop is
built on need we perceived for graduate students to gain a better
understanding of how peer review works - not just as submitters of articles,
but also as reviewers. We are very fortunate to have as participants ten
editors-in-chief from some of the most prestigious journals in ecology,
including: Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment, Journal of Ecology,
Ecology, Bulletin of the ESA, Ecological Monographs, Ecosphere, The American
Naturalist, Trends in Ecology and Evolution, Ecology Letters, and Oecologia.

The workshop will walk the attendees through the peer review process, guided
by the aforementioned editors-in-chief. We will also discuss the value (to
science, society and oneself!) of serving as a reviewer for a journal and
will propose and discuss novel ways to take an active part in this critical
component of ecological science.

 The workshop will feature both panel and smaller breakout sessions where
participants will be able to ask questions directly... but just to make sure
the conversation flows nicely, we're hoping to build up a list of some
questions in advance. If you have any questions, please email them to
salgu...@demogr.mpg.de

Many thanks and see you in Austin!
Rob Salguero-Gomez
Naupaka Zimmerman
Jorge Ramos

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[ECOLOG-L] Peer review, again

[Matt Chew]

Controversial issues in science practice have often been controversial for
years, decades, or even centuries.  There is an extensive literature on peer
review that addresses everything under discussion here, and more.  It has
previously landed close to home, and pretty recently, too.  For example:

"After circulating a pilot questionnaire at the British Ecological Society
meeting in Hertfordshire in 2005, I sent a questionnaire on peer review to
two large, well-known e-mail discussion groups for ecologists and
evolutionary biologists, ECOLOG-L and EVOLDIR."  ( C. Smit. 2006. Peer
Review: Time for a change? *BioScience *56:712-713. )

Matthew K Chew
ASU Center for Biology & Society
Tempe, AZ 85287-3301 USA
http://cbs.asu.edu/people/profiles/chew.php
http://asu.academia.edu/MattChew

[ECOLOG-L] Peer review training materials online

[Robyn Borsuk]

Hello, 

I am a graduate student at York University studying the peer review process 
in ecology.  I have posted some peer review training materials online, 
including tips on writing reviews, and a manuscript on which to practice.  
They can be found at http://www.yorku.ca/surveys/survey.php?sid=406 or via 
the main page of www.yorku.ca/surveys under the title ‘Peer Review 
Training’. 

Thank you very much, 
Sincerely,
Robyn Borsuk.