Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Call history

2008-03-28 Thread Damien Sandras
Le jeudi 27 mars 2008 à 20:45 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
 Damien Sandras a écrit :
  Le jeudi 27 mars 2008 à 14:15 +0100, Julien Puydt a écrit :
  Julien Puydt a écrit :
  And we'll have to decide what to show exactly :-)
  Since I didn't get greeted by complaints either on irc or on this list, 
  I committed should-work code.
 
  It's still time to complain if something looks wrong!
  
  Here are a few comments/bugs/things to fix before 3.00 :
  1- the synthetic view of the call history in the main window is not
  back. I think we should have kept it.
 
 It's probably just a matter of adding a book view in the main window.

It needs to be coded.

  2- when we have a missed call (for some reason), then the entry in the
  history is empty (no fullname, no voip uri)
 
 Hmmm... that is strange : if you look at the code, I do try to get that 
 data from the call... so if the data isn't in the history, then it 
 probably wasn't in the call in the first place :-/

Perhaps a bug there. I think Ekiga was set in call forwarding mode.

  3- we do not have the direction of the call (incoming, outgoing, missed)
 
 Hmmm... that is stored in the call history book though, so it's probably 
 a view issue.

Ah weird.

  4- there is no way to delete a call / several calls from the call
  history
 
 There is a clear action...

o :-)

  5- the call duration is not accessible (it is not accessible with a
  cellphone either, but I think it is a needed feature)
 
 Indeed ; the question is : how to present it to the user.

A additional column in the GtkTreeView ?

  6- when doing a refresh, the refresh never ends, you have to kill ekiga
 
 A refresh!? What are you talking about?

The refresh button...
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Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] 1st working SVN build Ekiga on FreeBSD

2008-03-28 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, March 28, 2008 a las 12:16:53PM +0100, Damien Sandras escribió:

 Try changing the video size ?
 
 I think you will have to run things step by step, it will be boring, but
 I'm sure it will fix a severe bug that other persons could encounter.

We're getting closer... I've put in some debug fprintf's and for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] it asks OPAL to do:

Debug:lib/engine/protocol/skel/call-core.cpp CallCore::dial()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::Call()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Audio
Debug:stream_name: PCMU
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Audio
Debug:stream_name: PCMU
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnEstablished()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnEstablished()
Debug:on_established_call_cb
Debug:setting mw-current_call = call;

i.e. no video is involved (which explains as well that switching off V4L
to Moving Logo works well);

while for [EMAIL PROTECTED] it is:

Debug:lib/engine/protocol/skel/call-core.cpp CallCore::dial()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::Call()
Debug:lib/engine/protocol/skel/call-core.cpp CallCore::dial()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::Call()
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Audio
Debug:stream_name: PCMU
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Audio
Debug:stream_name: PCMU
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Video
Debug:stream_name: h261
Debug:src/endpoints/opal-call.cpp Opal::Call::OnOpenMediaStream()
Debug:StreamType Video
Debug:stream_name: h261

and OnEstablished() is not passed...

does [EMAIL PROTECTED] echoes video? 

changing the video size to 640x480 has no effect on this;

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread michel memeteau
Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ?

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP
 programs
 and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it
 works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on
 same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a
 regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly
 the
 same hardware/software and internet connection.

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread D Webb

This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything 
Core2Duo 
2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga 
2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy on 
a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other 
VoIP 
software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as regular 
phone, 
and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a 
number of 
times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but that 
is 
separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is 
really good, 
despite also having a webcam.

Dee

 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:30:07 +0100
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 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype
 
 Maybe because Skype requires more CPU ? Which hardware power was it ?
 
 On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:11 PM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I think I should mention that I have tinkered with a number of VoIP
  programs
  and have been comparing. One reason to stick with Ekiga was that when it
  works, the sound stream seems to be more efficient than Skype. While on
  same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a
  regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly
  the
  same hardware/software and internet connection.
 
  dee
 
  
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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-28 Thread Paolo
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
 regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly the 
 same hardware/software and internet connection.

remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.
In skype you've no control on number of connections it makes to other
nodes, nor how much bandwith it takes up; and skype's streams are encrypted,
which means longer drops may occur in case of channel congestion.
Moreover, if all goes 'well', your instance may act as a 'supernode' hence 
taking most of your bw.  In some situations, all the rest been equal, such 
cases may lead to poor performance on the channel you're talking.

There are likely other possible explanations for what you see, these are
just a few points.


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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype

2008-03-28 Thread Edward Dunagin
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 7:13 AM, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This is rather new desktop computer I would think can handle anything
 Core2Duo
 2.0 Ghz and 2 Gig memory. Latest hardware and Linux Slackware 12.0 and Ekiga
 2.0.11. Connection is 56K modem. I knew for a while Skype can be real choppy
 on
 a modem connection, but wanted to see if this would also be true with other
 VoIP
 software. I was REALLY surprised sound quality with Ekiga was same as
 regular phone,
 and vastly better than Skype. I am very sure of this. I have repeated it a
 number of
 times. For the moment, there are still problems with Ekiga crashing, but
 that is
 separate matter that I hope to solve. When Ekiga has not crashed, sound is
 really good,
 despite also having a webcam.

Hello Dee,

WOW a 56 K modem connection. Ekiga gives me audio fits when video
works and I have a broadband connection.

Peace.ed

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Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)

2008-03-28 Thread D Webb

 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:26:30 +0100
 To: ekiga-list@gnome.org
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 Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga vs Skype (D Webb)
 
 On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 12:00:38PM +, D Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
  same equipment Skype is choppy, Ekiga VoIP streams about as well as a 
  regular phone. Any thought on how/why? in the present case, it is exactly 
  the 
  same hardware/software and internet connection.
 
 remember that skype is a p2p app while ekiga acts as client for a server.

Hah, didn't know Skype was p2p, I always thought it was also going through 
a server since there is a login. Thanks for your thoughts, as they are 
insightful.

Dee


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