[Ekiga-devel-list] Remove Bug:: wiki pages
Hi, Proposal: remove Bug:: wiki pages, because they are obsolete: http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Special:Allpages, choose Bug:: (there are four such pages). (Snark, Damien, could you check that the bug from http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Bug::ESD::startuphang could be closed?) Yannick, please remove http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_SVN_2x_Etch http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/PTLib_does_not_compile -- Eugen ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Remove Bug:: wiki pages
Le lundi 26 janvier 2009 à 12:30 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit : Yannick, please remove http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_SVN_2x_Etch http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/PTLib_does_not_compile Done. Thank you for pointing out. ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-devel-list] Remove Bug:: wiki pages
yannick wrote: Le lundi 26 janvier 2009 à 12:30 +0100, Eugen Dedu a écrit : Yannick, please remove http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Compile_SVN_2x_Etch http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/PTLib_does_not_compile Done. Thank you for pointing out. it remains Bug::... pages, do you agree to remove them TheBonsai ? (It seems yannick waits your confirmation...) -- Eugen ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] wiki again, API:: pages
Hi, Snark, do you agree to remove API:: pages (see http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Special:Allpages)? If you still need them, it is better to put them in one place and we will link to them from one of the wiki pages. -- Eugen ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
[Ekiga-devel-list] More analysis of Alsa vs Pulse
Hi, After changing the uninitialised values I've kept comparing the behaviour of ekiga with ALSA and Pulseaudio. I've thought of reporting here what I have found in the hope that someone could have a better understanding and maybe identify the core of the issue to report to PulseAudio. I am analysing what happens when I play the ringtone via the conf dialog. Basically in PSoundChannleALSA there is a method Open(). It is called twice, the first time it gives slightly different results (even after correcting the uninitialised), but the second time it gives the same values 2009/01/26 20:39:14.818 0:10.651 AudioEvent...0xb6804b90 AlsaBuffer time is 2 2009/01/26 20:39:14.818 0:10.651 AudioEvent...0xb6804b90 AlsaPeriod time is 5000 Afterwards the actual audio output starts. This is done via Write(). What happens when using the pulse-alsa module is that there are many underruns after calling snd_pcm_writei(). In order to fix the underrun snd_pcm_prepare is called and I think this is responsible for the very bad quality AND for the fact that the stream volume controller in the PulseAudio Volume Manager keeps disappearing and reappearing. I've tried snd_pcm_recover() but there is no difference. It seems that each time an underrun occurs, a nasty glitch can be heard. I have no idea what causes the underrun. Does anybody have a better understanding of all that? ___ Ekiga-devel-list mailing list Ekiga-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-devel-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Re (2): plugins for video
PETER EASTHOPE a écrit : Folk, Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:36:58 +0100 From: Julien Puydt jpu...@...fr If it's firewire, the plugin is in a package whose name must look like libpt-plugins-avc The Unibrain Fire-i is Firewire. I installed libpt-plugins-avc. Opened Edit:Preferences. For Input Devices V4L, V4L2 and 1394AVC, the Input device is No device found. For Input Device 1394DC the Input Device is /dev/raw1394. I failed to find an image anywhere with Ekiga while everything in Coriander appears OK. I'm not convinced that running a mixed system--Lenny, with Sid Ekiga--is a good idea. Might be best to leave Ekiga until the system is fully up to Sid. Thanks for any further ideas, 1) does kino recognize your device ; 2) coriander makes me think libpt-plugins-dc might be more appropriate! Snark ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] Ekiga, webcam driver and kernel 2.6.27
Hi, Le dimanche 25 janvier 2009 à 15:10 +0100, Bent a écrit : Hi List With kernel 2.6.27 the spca driver for a lot of webcams, including the one I have got, was moved into the kernel. At the same time quite a few video formats were taken out of the driver and moved to a user-land library - v4l1compat.so. This means that in order for me to get video on ekiga, skype and other applications I have to do something like this: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so ekiga My question now is: Is this also required with Ekiga V3? I ask because my distribution (Gentoo) still is at version 2.0.12. I prefer to use whatever my distribution provides. I could - and I have done this before - build Ekiga from sources but is it worth the trouble (conf. all the posts about build problems ;-)) and will it solve my dilemma? If ptlib has been compiled with libv4l support (libv4l being the library, not the ptlib plugin), it should not be required anymore. -- _ Damien Sandras (o- //\Ekiga Softphone : http://www.ekiga.org/ v_/_ Be IP : http://www.beip.be/ FOSDEM : http://www.fosdem.org/ SIP Phone : sip:dsand...@ekiga.net ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience
I just successfully launched Ekiga version integrated into the Ubuntu LTS 8.04.1 CD. Ubuntu was not even installed, just booted directly from the CD. I was not online so got a error messsage that looked related to this. Ekiga found my ancient Phillips USB ToUcam webcam without needing to go through any configs in kernel or Ekiga. On this same box, Ekiga definitely crashes under Linux Slackware 12.0 + Gnome. On another machine connected network, that same Ubuntu CD, again booted from the disk (not installed to HDD), also found my network and I was online without any network configs. Ekiga launched, but no one to connect to. I will try in coming days to make some SIP connects between Sweden and California and see if actual connections work. If so, booting with the Ubuntu CD should prove a fast/easy way to use Ekiga for people like me working on other Linux adventures. Dee From: b...@barfone.serveftp.net To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:44:24 +1300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience Hi All, New user of Ekiga, some comments which may or not be helpful. First the positive comment, the video response is far better in linux than Windoze. It worked fine on the 2 Windoze machines I tried it on I had a frustrating time trying to get this to work on linux. As you know when starting out with something new you're never quite sure if its your hardware, software or the application that's not working. It did not help that the trouble shooting tips were for version 2 and mostly irrelevant to version 3. So I tried first on my main distro Fedora 10 X86-64. Got video but no audio, sometimes got a could not start device message sometimes not, after reading this list I removed pulse audio but still no audio (in or out). Sometimes would not start the camera and needed to log out/in to get it working again. Next Fedora 10 I386, same problem as above although I didn't remove pulse audio. Next Centos 5.1 i386, yaay, good audio both ways but no video probably not in the kernel. Next Open SUSE 11.1 x86-64 on a laptop, nothing worked errors for both audio and video devices , didn't try to tweak anything. Next (yes I have few linux machines) Fedora 8 i386. Success, it works, so now we can have confidence that Ekiga does work and can now try to get it to play nicely on the other machines I agree with the comments made else where in this list that a plugin to handle pulse audio is a must. At the end of the day how many people will be willing to maintain a machine with an old or degraded distro just to use Ekiga. Not too many I'd bet and fewer as time goes on. It would also be extremely helpful if you published a list of distros that Ekiga works on (without extensive hacking) and those it is known not to work on, such as any distro using pulse audio. Summary. When it did work it was very good but trying to get it to work was probably more effort than it was worth (about 16 manhours of fiddling and reading). ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_012009___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Distributions available
These are almost all unstable branch distributions, which are unusable for those whose environments are based on stable branch distributions intended for long-term use. We need at least one pre-compiled version, preferably accessible via yum, apt where appropriate, or rpm, that will work on a stable-branch distribution such as CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise, Scientific Linux, etc. As it is, Ekiga is not useful for long-term IT environments. Thanks. On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:39 AM, ekiga-list-requ...@gnome.org wrote: For information, whohas in a new program giving the versions of a package on several distributions. whohas ekiga shows: FreeBSD ekiga 2.0.11_5 net http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/net/ekiga Finkekiga 2.0.12-1 http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/ekiga NetBSD ekiga 3.0.2 net http://pkgsrc.se/net/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.1-0ubuntu6.2 [s http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.1-0ubuntu6.2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-updates/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.3-0ubuntu8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.11-1ubuntu1 http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.12-0ubuntu2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.12-0ubuntu5 http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 3.0.1-1ubuntu1 http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ekiga Source Mage ekiga 3.0.2 test Source Mage ekiga 3.0.1 stable OpenBSD ekiga 2.0.12p5 http://www.openbsd.org/4.4_packages/i386/ekiga-2.0.12p5.tgz-long.html Fedora ekiga 3.0.1-4 7.7M 13-11-2008 Gentoo ekiga 2.0.12 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-im/ekiga Gentoo ekiga 2.0.11 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-im/ekiga Gentoo opal 2.2.11 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-libs/opal Debian ekiga 2.0.3-6 stable http://packages.debian.org/etch/ekiga Debian ekiga 2.0.12-1+nmu1 testing http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ekiga openSUSEekiga 3.0.1 suse/oss http://packages.opensuse-community.org/packageinfo.jsp?checksum=ad8e9b0e8c5974999f9c49a386d3d42e141e6a4aamp;distro=openSUSE_111 Alan Sill, Ph.D Senior Scientist, High Performance Computing Center Adjunct Professor of Physics TTU : Alan Sill, Texas Tech University Office: Admin 233, MS 4-1167 : : e-mail: alan.s...@ttu.edu ph. 806-742-4350 fax 806-742-4358 : ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Contact list bug?
Damien, Not sure if this is a genuine bug, if so should I log it somewhere. In the Contact List (3.0.1) if you include a space or return after the sip address it causes the messages below. Yes, you should not do it, but it is pretty hard to find:) It also causes the SUBSCRIBE to fail. It is easily reproducable. Brian 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 SIP Changing SUBSCRIBE handler from Unavailable to Restoring, target=sip:999...@sip.on.net , id=b657f3f1-1fea-dd11-9400-001b11e9b...@l2 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Socket Illegal RFC952 characters in DNS name sip.on.net ==note space on end 2009/01/27 00:12:41.531 23:51.781 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Opal Could not find host sip.on.net 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 OpalUDP Binding to interface: 0.0.0.0:5065 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Socket Illegal RFC952 characters in DNS name sip.on.net ==note space on end 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 Opal Could not find host sip.on.net 2009/01/27 00:12:41.532 23:51.782 Housekeeper:0xb524fb90 SIP Could not find udp$sip.on.net :5060 ==so you end up with a space before the port. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Re (2): Re (2): plugins for video
Snark others, 2) coriander makes me think libpt-plugins-dc might be more appropriate! libpt-plugins-dc is now installed and the connection to sip:5...@ekiga.net yields video. Thanks! 1) does kino recognize your device ; No, but not a concern now. I have almost no understanding of interface requirements and dependencies. Would be very helpful if someone can start to document this topic. Appears that different releases have different packages and requirements. Documentation should address this. Certainly I will be happy to check consistency against my Debian systems. Regards, ... Peter E. -- http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ http://carnot.yi.org/ = http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
Re: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience
Thanks for that, I'd be interested to know how you get on. Is that Ekiga V2 or V3 on the Ubuntu CD? Ubuntu has an installer to put the live CD onto a USB flash drive with persistent memory. If Ekiga will work of that, that would be very useful. I've just tried it on Debian Etch with similar results to Centos 5.1, audio but no video. In fact it did not even detect the camera as a camera only as a USB audio device even after installing V4L2. Barf On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 11:37 +, D Webb wrote: I just successfully launched Ekiga version integrated into the Ubuntu LTS 8.04.1 CD. Ubuntu was not even installed, just booted directly from the CD. I was not online so got a error messsage that looked related to this. Ekiga found my ancient Phillips USB ToUcam webcam without needing to go through any configs in kernel or Ekiga. On this same box, Ekiga definitely crashes under Linux Slackware 12.0 + Gnome. On another machine connected network, that same Ubuntu CD, again booted from the disk (not installed to HDD), also found my network and I was online without any network configs. Ekiga launched, but no one to connect to. I will try in coming days to make some SIP connects between Sweden and California and see if actual connections work. If so, booting with the Ubuntu CD should prove a fast/easy way to use Ekiga for people like me working on other Linux adventures. Dee From: b...@barfone.serveftp.net To: ekiga-list@gnome.org Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:44:24 +1300 Subject: [Ekiga-list] New User Experience Hi All, New user of Ekiga, some comments which may or not be helpful. First the positive comment, the video response is far better in linux than Windoze. It worked fine on the 2 Windoze machines I tried it on I had a frustrating time trying to get this to work on linux. As you know when starting out with something new you're never quite sure if its your hardware, software or the application that's not working. It did not help that the trouble shooting tips were for version 2 and mostly irrelevant to version 3. So I tried first on my main distro Fedora 10 X86-64. Got video but no audio, sometimes got a could not start device message sometimes not, after reading this list I removed pulse audio but still no audio (in or out). Sometimes would not start the camera and needed to log out/in to get it working again. Next Fedora 10 I386, same problem as above although I didn't remove pulse audio. Next Centos 5.1 i386, yaay, good audio both ways but no video probably not in the kernel. Next Open SUSE 11.1 x86-64 on a laptop, nothing worked errors for both audio and video devices , didn't try to tweak anything. Next (yes I have few linux machines) Fedora 8 i386. Success, it works, so now we can have confidence that Ekiga does work and can now try to get it to play nicely on the other machines I agree with the comments made else where in this list that a plugin to handle pulse audio is a must. At the end of the day how many people will be willing to maintain a machine with an old or degraded distro just to use Ekiga. Not too many I'd bet and fewer as time goes on. It would also be extremely helpful if you published a list of distros that Ekiga works on (without extensive hacking) and those it is known not to work on, such as any distro using pulse audio. Summary. When it did work it was very good but trying to get it to work was probably more effort than it was worth (about 16 manhours of fiddling and reading). ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list __ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. Check it out. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list -- No Bull Services Ltd PO Box 51528 Pakuranga Auckland 021 413642 09 5768552 http://www.no-bull.co.nz This e-mail and any attached files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressees. If you have recieved this e-mail in error please inform the sender by sending a reply and delete this message. ___ ekiga-list mailing list ekiga-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
[Ekiga-list] Someone please get E3 into highly used distros, especially KUbutu 8.4, thanks :) was-Re: Distributions available
1) Wow, Eugen.Dedu - that's a great tool/list! 2) Alan - I agree with you 100%. E3 is simply unuseful to the _users_ if it isn't available to them. I'd think the project would be much better off the project's leaders ensured that an E3 version was promptly made available to be installed, made use of, by _users_. E3 isn't filling it's potential if it isn't being _used_! :) Personally, being a long time KDE user, ( 10 year linux user, maybe 4-5 yr Ubuntu user), I use KUbuntu 8.4, cause I want a non-KDE-beta-sw system (hence no KU 8.10 for me) that's what I recommend to other users. I suspect there are many others using KU 8.4, not 8.10, and until such time as KDE 4 stabilizes, that is likely to continue. Since that platform is likely a large quantity of users, I think it is obvious that the Ekiga project would be well served by Ek persons who know something about compiling, library dependencies, Distro management, backports, putting out the effort to do whatever it takes to get whatever it takes to make E3 easily (ie apt) installable on KU 8.4, at the minimum (along with other popular distros). That is a hearty _suggestion_ :) not a denigration of Ek's leaders - I'm presuming most here are volunteers, I only suggest, not tell, volunteers how to spend their time. :) [ thanks for all the sw :)] [If someone can get NetBSD, Solaris MSWindows versions available, can't _someone!!_ quickly get an Ubuntu backport available?!] This guy has a solution for 8.10: [see end of this email for basics] How install Ekiga 3.0.1 on Ubuntu 8.10? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=3e827289947200322293759188346591t=1016174 So, I'd have to make time to 1) post to that thread asking howto for KU 8.4 hope someone figures it out responds, or 2) start another thread with that title, hope someone figures it out responds, or 3) investigate how to find then find then communicate to the Ub backports team to request it be made available in KU 8.4, etc etc etc. Point: I'd have a much bigger learning curve than E's developers, it'd take a lot of time, be much slower, I suspect, than if the E project leaders, who are sw _developers_, did the (I suspect) _minor_ learning curve necessary to get the distro packagers/backporters to get E3 into the most highly _used_ distros, ie to the largest groups of _users_, so the latest E sw could begin doing the world some more _good/use_. :) On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:26:55 -0600, Alan Sill alan.s...@ttu.edu said: These are almost all unstable branch distributions, which are unusable for those whose environments are based on stable branch distributions intended for long-term use. We need at least one pre-compiled version, preferably accessible via yum, apt where appropriate, or rpm, that will work on a stable-branch distribution such as CentOS, Red Hat Enterprise, Scientific Linux, etc. As it is, Ekiga is not useful for long-term IT environments. Thanks. On Jan 26, 2009, at 2:39 AM, ekiga-list-requ...@gnome.org wrote: For information, whohas in a new program giving the versions of a package on several distributions. whohas ekiga shows: FreeBSD ekiga 2.0.11_5 net http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/net/ekiga Finkekiga 2.0.12-1 http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/package.php/ekiga NetBSD ekiga 3.0.2 net http://pkgsrc.se/net/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.1-0ubuntu6.2 [s http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.1-0ubuntu6.2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper-updates/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.3-0ubuntu8 http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.11-1ubuntu1 http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.12-0ubuntu2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 2.0.12-0ubuntu5 http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ekiga Ubuntu ekiga 3.0.1-1ubuntu1 http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ekiga Source Mage ekiga 3.0.2 test Source Mage ekiga 3.0.1 stable OpenBSD ekiga 2.0.12p5 http://www.openbsd.org/4.4_packages/i386/ekiga-2.0.12p5.tgz-long.html Fedora ekiga 3.0.1-4 7.7M 13-11-2008 Gentoo ekiga 2.0.12 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-im/ekiga Gentoo ekiga 2.0.11 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-im/ekiga Gentoo opal 2.2.11 http://gentoo-portage.com/net-libs/opal Debian ekiga 2.0.3-6 stable
