[Elecraft] K3 and general coverage
Bob Nielsen wrote: That lead to a question I hadn't considered before. How is general coverage in the vicinity of the first i.f. achieved? Bob, N7XY Hi Bob, As Greg (AB7R) mentioned, it isn't possible for the K3 to provide coverage in the vicinity of our first I.F., 8.215 MHz. We felt that this was a small price to pay, given our primary goal of offering an excellent ham-band transceiver. However, all other bands of interest for general coverage from 0.5 to 30 MHz can be tuned. If you have the KBPF3 option installed (on either or both receivers), its filters will automatically be switched in to cover the gaps between the narrow ham-band filters. But even without the KBPF3 you'll have useful sensitivity in shortwave broadcast segments near ham bands. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: HF Bandpass filters
Ken Kopp wrote: For the several who have asked ... My bandpass filters are made by I.C.E. ... I ... and most users ... place them in the antenna port of the transceiver Ken, I just wanted to reiterate that the K3's KXV3 option module facilitates the use of these filters. Simply connect them between the RX ANT IN and RX ANT OUT jacks. Then, whenever you select RX ANT from the front panel, the in-line band-pass filter would be switched in. Of course we hope that you'll find the K3's dynamic range high enough that such filters are not needed as often :) 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Pictures Please
Looking forward to many good quality, high-resolution pictures of the K3 Elecraft stand from FDIM and Dayton. I can always put them in a gallery irrespective of size - just send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if needed. Should we start a sweepstake on the number of K3 orders that Elecraft take at Dayton? Simon Brown, HB9DRV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: HF Bandpass filters
Hallo, Of course we hope that you'll find the K3's dynamic range high enough that such filters are not needed as often :) High power bandpass filters also reduce the wide band noise which any PA will produce. To be effective in this role, the filters must be in line while the TX is doing its thing. This does not really have anything to do with the dynamic range of the RX but with the noisiness of the transmitter. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and general coverage
What will the ATU do in general coverage mode? I guess the best thing would be to switch straight through, but would you have to go into a menu and do that manually whenever you tune to a non-ham band? Julian, G4ILO wayne burdick wrote: Hi Bob, As Greg (AB7R) mentioned, it isn't possible for the K3 to provide coverage in the vicinity of our first I.F., 8.215 MHz. We felt that this was a small price to pay, given our primary goal of offering an excellent ham-band transceiver. However, all other bands of interest for general coverage from 0.5 to 30 MHz can be tuned. If you have the KBPF3 option installed (on either or both receivers), its filters will automatically be switched in to cover the gaps between the narrow ham-band filters. But even without the KBPF3 you'll have useful sensitivity in shortwave broadcast segments near ham bands. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K3 Pictures Please
Should we start a sweepstake on the number of K3 orders that Elecraft take at Dayton? I have no doubt lots of K3's will be sold at Dayton. Being burnt by a FT-2000 (which I sold quickly) I have been lurking here for a while. Then yesterday I saw that 1st production batch was sold out. New orders are planned for production/delivery in September. So I decided it was time to place my order before Dayton as I want my K3 before Xmas. 73's, Per oz5abo ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 1st production run full - details?
Wayne, Eric, et al: Okay, it is now posted on the order form that: * Our July/August production run is now full. New K3 orders received after 1800Z 5/14/07 will ship from our second production run. (Sept.) Come on guys (gals)...how many radios? Why would that be proprietary? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 At first, resistance was easy. But then I'm seeing all the benefits and how cost-effective it is. And how it is so wonderfully designed And how flexible and robust the filtering scheme is And the sidetone is going to be pure (pure heaven) And support / repairs will be a breeze. And ... I'm getting weak and you guys are NOT helping! I need a K3 I need a K3 I need a K3 Someone please take my Visa card away before it's too late! LOL! - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer
As I recall Jim, he championed the 220, Use it or Lose It campaign. There was a lot of commercial interest in the band in the 70s, probably the same is true now as well. Folks had strong emotions, one way or the other, when it came to Wayne. 73, Julius n2wn --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/14/07 8:43:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We do owe Wayne gratitude for keeping 220 mHz available for ham use. How did he do that? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
If you think it's bad now, just wait until those of us with the necessary IQ to order early start posting questions when we receive our packages. Even though you don't need a K3 you want one :-) Simon Brown, HB9DRV - Original Message - From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't need a K3 [sad story chop] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: OT - 73 Magazine (was H mode mixer)
Hi Brian, Wayne was interesting to work for. He was aptly noted for being a cheapskate and it turned out that was true. OTOH, one time when I was up there he took me out to lunch and we had a great argument about the future of amateur radio. (Several people in the office dropped in a dead faint when they learned that Wayne actually bought me, an employee, lunch. :-) I was, of course, suggesting that digital communications was the future of amateur radio. He wasn't sure. Seems we were both at least part right because here it is 18 years later and we are only just starting to see changes in the communications landscape. I met him once very briefly. I was just a kid so other than him being the publisher of 73 and being reasonably nice, I can't say I knew him. He stirred strong emotions one way or the other in the older hams. The technical hams often dismissed 73 as a bunch of hoowie. Still a lot of VHF/UHF guys liked the publication. I certainly enjoyed some of the covers ;o) Anyway, he sure annoyed the hell out of everyone but you have to admit, he had an effect on what we do and how we do it. Never Say Die. 220, Use It or Lose It I still have the button for this somewhere... And speaking of digital communications, the loss of The Code as a gating factor is going to prompt a shift away from CW as the minimalist mode for HF. I believe that PSK31 is probably going to slowly take over that position as it can be done with equipment almost as simple as a CW rig and provides the same level of communications at similar power levels. (BTW, I am teaching code to my kids at school as I want them to be able to build the simplest radio possible to get on the air. I just don't think that CW will remain as the mainstay last resort communications mode.) You're probably correct in your assessment on digital modes. I think the K3 will go a long way in opening up digital modes for those of us who haven't tried them yet. Whether is PSK or another protocol, is to be seen. Judging by the numbers of participants in RTTY contests these days, it is a fast growing segment. Change is good, unsettling yes, but the possibilities are worth the uncertainty... 73, Julius n2wn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Darwin, Keith wrote: I don't need a K3 Correctyou WANT a K3! Someone please take my Visa card away before it's too late! What you most likely need to do is check to see if one of your cards offers the extension of the warranty(g). Want trumps Need 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
Or even worse, when we start posting that we *have* received our packages... If you think it's bad now, just wait until those of us with the necessary IQ to order early start posting questions when we receive our packages. Even though you don't need a K3 you want one :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: Even though you don't need a K3 you want one :-) And you can blame it all on the Aptos Money Magnet! 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] The Lowly Appliance Operator Ponders Filters
Thom, Let me try *my* recommendations for what I believe is your situation. First, you live in or near an urban environment, so I expect you have several hams near you with strong signals which might interfere - so if you want to operate easily on CW in the presence of S-9++ signal on the band, I would recommend a 400 or 500 Hz filter. You may even want an alternate selection of a 200 Hz width if the strong signal situation is really bad. If you want to operate digital modes (now made much easier with the K3 and possible even without a computer), I would want to have the 200 Hz filter for that operating mode (it will also serve as a narrow filter on CW) - there are just too many folks running higher powers on those modes who seem to pop up right next to the signal that you are trying to copy. Of course, with a narrow filter working digital modes, you will not be able to 'click and work' within the full 3 kHz waterfall width - you will need to tune the desired signal with the VFO into the more narrow filter width. I do that already with the K2 using narrow filters for PSK31, so for me it is no change from my normal operation. For the sub-receiver, ask yourself similar questions. 1) What modes will I be using the sub-receiver for? 2) How much de-sensing of the receiver from strong nearby am I willing to tolerate? When you have the answers to those two questions, you will be able to decide what filter widths are needed there. Notice that the reasons for choosing the filters are different than simply how narrow a filter do you want to use - the DSP certainly can reduce the bandwidth to a very narrow slice, but what the hardware filters do is to keep strong undesired signals out of the DSP. You may never notice the lack of a narrow filter if you never try to work a weak signal or if you never encounter a strong interfering signal near your operating frequency (static noise is an 'interfering signal' too, but is broadbanded) - but for operation on a crowded band or in the midst of static, the narrow filters will clean it up easier than any other method and allow you to work those weak ones. 73, Don W3FPR Thom LaCosta wrote: When technical smarts were issued, I had to be hiding behind the door. All of this filter stuff is way over my head(as are most things more complicated than light switches(on-off are OK, three-ways are a challenge)). Based on what's available for the K3, what would be an optimal choice for someone who mostly operates CW, some SSB, would like to try data, and avoids contests? It's not very often that I use the narrowest filter in the K2 for cwand I use an Autek audio filter(complete with ringing and ac hum). Perhaps what I'm asking is like going into an auto dealer, looking at a Lamborghetta and asking if I can install a Muntz TV in the back seat. It's not that I wouldn't buy filters...it's more like when I go to a museum of modern artI am too ignorant to know if the painting of the sun, which appears to be a big orange circle, is hung upside down. Thom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 37, Issue 27
Message: 24 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 11:14:13 -0500 From: Sam Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] H mode mixer To: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed J F wrote: Actually Geoff, the ARRL has a decent deal going on for RSGB membership: RadCom Magazine (RSGB) -- Subscriptions are now available on an exclusive deal from ARRL! any comments on which one would be your pick if you could only read one or the other? QST or RadCom -- GB 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan Hi Sam, your question is right. I was an ARRL Member since 1963 and become an RSGB Member end of 1965. I am ARI member since 1959 and have been members of another European Radio Society and HamRadio. I stopped my mebership with ARRL in 1980 and I am still a Member of RSGB since 1965. Why I stopped ARRL membership? The reasons are two: Having a family with XYL, 3 kids and a dog I had to limit expenses. QST was becoming large with a lot of advertisements and simple circuits while RSGB Bulletin and later RadioCommunication, RadCom ... was improving in projects and interesting columns. The most important column for me was and still is Technical Topics managed by Pat Hawker, G3VA. Maybe RadCom had and as project more European like (???). In 1980 I kept HR for a while and then stayed with ARI and RSGB memberships. I believe QST became poor when somebody in ARRL to make more money created QEX Later, duirng my staying in France I become member of the French Society, REF. Today I have investments in ARI (RadioRivista), RadCom RSGB and SPRAT the quarterly magazine of G-QRP Club. I suggest to those interested in solder smoking and fiddling with homebrewing to become member of RSGB and possibly with G-QRP Club too 73 Gian I7SWX Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
The following happened to me a few years ago as a brand new ham in my pre-Elecraft days and I wonder if anyone can explain to me the details. I apparently had high swr and exceeded the rating on my balun. It suffered accordingly but didn't completely fail. The result was when I transmitted cw on 40m an internal fuse would blow in the stereo which was on in the next room room. It took two go rounds before I caught onto the cause and effect... A new better balun cured the problem. At the time I had a Zepp (135') and 4:1 balun at the house entrance. I assume the ruined balun was emitting all sorts of RF that the stereo amplifier picked up, tried to amplify, and couldn't. But I don't understand exactly what would make it draw that much current. Can someone enlighten me? By the way, since then I put up a dipole, halfwave for 160m, about 200' behind the house. That's what I should have begun with. Thanks! Mike ab3ap ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] The Lowly Appliance Operator Ponders Filters
Why not just order the basic ssb filter (2.7 KHz) and see how it does. If you want to use FM or AM, get those filters as you need them to TX using those modes. I expect the 2.7 filter will do fine for everyone other than the DX and contest guys. I suspect the K3 with the 2.7 filter will work as good or better then most other $2000 to $3000.00 radios out there. When I do my casual CW listening on (mostly) 80 and 40 meters, I have the K2 in 1.4 KHz and don't often have any problems with copy. The K3 2.7 KHz filter is just the first filter, unless you have real strong local signals close, you likely wont have any problems. Now if you often find yourself working a signal and having a real strong signal very close, you might think about something narrower... I live in a very suburban setting, and rarely have anything strong close to what I am listening to. Last night I was surprised to copy a slow signal on 40 meters that was about 40 over, I wrote the call down, but its at home...I must look it up. I don't think the bar graph ever went up so high before! I did NOT notice any problems from it on other signals. Last night was a great slow code night for some reason, slow for me is 10 to 15 wpmI STILL have to count some of the numbers! Filters seem like they would make great birthday or fathers day gifts! Brett N2DTS When technical smarts were issued, I had to be hiding behind the door. All of this filter stuff is way over my head(as are most things more complicated than light switches(on-off are OK, three-ways are a challenge)). Based on what's available for the K3, what would be an optimal choice for someone who mostly operates CW, some SSB, would like to try data, and avoids contests? It's not very often that I use the narrowest filter in the K2 for cwand I use an Autek audio filter(complete with ringing and ac hum). Perhaps what I'm asking is like going into an auto dealer, looking at a Lamborghetta and asking if I can install a Muntz TV in the back seat. It's not that I wouldn't buy filters...it's more like when I go to a museum of modern artI am too ignorant to know if the painting of the sun, which appears to be a big orange circle, is hung upside down. Thom ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
What is the benefit of a balun? I cant run them, as I run legal limit AM which will toast any balun I ever heard of. At 100 watts, or QRP, RF in the house cant be an issue, I don't have problems with the AM and the G5RV right over the house. I would think it would just add more loss. I used to have resonant 80 and 40 meter dipoles, but took them down and built a home made G5RV, #12 wire for the open wire line, and only about 20 feet of RG214 coax into the tuner or directly into the K2 with its built in atu. I will have very high swr on both the open wire line (does not matter as there is almost no loss), and the RG214, but there is only 20 feet of that, so I would guess the loss is slight. Now I could fit a balun if I just used the K2, but what would be the advantage? I hear you should never run a balun with any swr, the losses go way up. I think they now make tuners with the balun before the tuner (rig, balun, tuner, antenna) that works well Brett N2DTS The following happened to me a few years ago as a brand new ham in my pre-Elecraft days and I wonder if anyone can explain to me the details. I apparently had high swr and exceeded the rating on my balun. It suffered accordingly but didn't completely fail. The result was when I transmitted cw on 40m an internal fuse would blow in the stereo which was on in the next room room. It took two go rounds before I caught onto the cause and effect... A new better balun cured the problem. At the time I had a Zepp (135') and 4:1 balun at the house entrance. I assume the ruined balun was emitting all sorts of RF that the stereo amplifier picked up, tried to amplify, and couldn't. But I don't understand exactly what would make it draw that much current. Can someone enlighten me? By the way, since then I put up a dipole, halfwave for 160m, about 200' behind the house. That's what I should have begun with. Thanks! Mike ab3ap ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
Keith There's only one cure for these disturbing feelings. I think you know what it is. Just quietly submit your order, and you'll feel fine again. 73 David G3XLW Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 At first, resistance was easy. But then I'm seeing all the benefits and how cost-effective it is. And how it is so wonderfully designed And how flexible and robust the filtering scheme is And the sidetone is going to be pure (pure heaven) And support / repairs will be a breeze. And ... I'm getting weak and you guys are NOT helping! I need a K3 I need a K3 I need a K3 Someone please take my Visa card away before it's too late! LOL! - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
A few years back I bought a Buxcom G5RV and running 600 watts into it, the balun that it came with was toast. I replaced it with 10 turns of coax wrapped around a Folger's coffee can. Reading what G5RV had written about his antenna, he recommended that a balun not be used with his antenna. See last link at http://www.metaphoria.us/hamradio/ham_radio.htm Jozef WB2MIC Brett gazdzinski wrote: What is the benefit of a balun? I cant run them, as I run legal limit AM which will toast any balun I ever heard of. At 100 watts, or QRP, RF in the house cant be an issue, I don't have problems with the AM and the G5RV right over the house. I would think it would just add more loss. I used to have resonant 80 and 40 meter dipoles, but took them down and built a home made G5RV, #12 wire for the open wire line, and only about 20 feet of RG214 coax into the tuner or directly into the K2 with its built in atu. I will have very high swr on both the open wire line (does not matter as there is almost no loss), and the RG214, but there is only 20 feet of that, so I would guess the loss is slight. Now I could fit a balun if I just used the K2, but what would be the advantage? I hear you should never run a balun with any swr, the losses go way up. I think they now make tuners with the balun before the tuner (rig, balun, tuner, antenna) that works well Brett N2DTS The following happened to me a few years ago as a brand new ham in my pre-Elecraft days and I wonder if anyone can explain to me the details. I apparently had high swr and exceeded the rating on my balun. It suffered accordingly but didn't completely fail. The result was when I transmitted cw on 40m an internal fuse would blow in the stereo which was on in the next room room. It took two go rounds before I caught onto the cause and effect... A new better balun cured the problem. At the time I had a Zepp (135') and 4:1 balun at the house entrance. I assume the ruined balun was emitting all sorts of RF that the stereo amplifier picked up, tried to amplify, and couldn't. But I don't understand exactly what would make it draw that much current. Can someone enlighten me? By the way, since then I put up a dipole, halfwave for 160m, about 200' behind the house. That's what I should have begun with. Thanks! Mike ab3ap ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 73 Mag
Brian LLoyd wrote:
Wayne was interesting to work for. He was aptly noted for being a cheapskate
and it turned out that was true. OTOH, one time when I was up there he took
me out to lunch and we had a great argument about the future of amateur
radio. (Several people in the office dropped in a dead faint when they
learned that Wayne actually bought me, an employee, lunch. :-) I was, of
course, suggesting that digital communications was the future of amateur
radio. He wasn't sure. Seems we were both at least part right because here
it is 18 years later and we are only just starting to see changes in the
communications landscape.
Anyway, he sure annoyed the hell out of everyone but you have to admit, he
had an effect on what we do and how we do it.
--
You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. My
impression of him was that he was something of an egomaniac as well--but
very smart! I got a dose of this at an early age. I was stationed in
Berlin ('60 to '62), and one of my duties there was to run the MARS station.
When The Wall went up, we were suddenly inundated with lots of visiting
firemen, and Wayne apparently wanted to be one too. I got a message that
Wayne and his wife would be making a quick overnight visit to Berlin two
days hence, and could I make a hotel reservation for them. The message said
he would also like to visit our MARS station. So I made him a reservation
at one of the nicer hotels in Berlin, and passed the word to the other 5 or
6 hams in the 592 Signal Co. that Wayne would be visiting. I also invited
several of the local DL's, and a half dozen or so showed up. Wayne came,
visited with us for only about 20 minutes or so, and then left. I never
heard from him again, but later I did hear that he had expected something
more formal. I'm not sure what he really expected, particularly on such
short notice, but what can I say. I was a little miffed about that for a
while, but being only 19, perhaps I was a bit naive as well.
But Wayne was a rare fellow to say the least. And he was very
entrepeneurial as well. He was quick off the blocks to get into the
computer magazine business, and you may recall that when CD's (music) first
came out he was Johnny On The Spot with a pretty darn good magazine for
that as well. But he loved controversy. Half the stuff he editorialized
about in 73 had nothing to do with ham radio. I don't know if he really
believed all that stuff he was ranting about, but I wouldn't have wanted to
debate him on any of it either. At times I couldn't tell if I was reading
73 Magazine or The New Yorker! It was hard not to admire the guy though.
I'll bet he was interesting to work with.
Dave W7AQK
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
--- Jozef Hand-Boniakowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years back I bought a Buxcom G5RV and running 600 watts into it, the balun that it came with was toast. I replaced it with 10 turns of coax wrapped around a Folger's coffee can. So, you replaced the balun you normally use with New Folger's Crystals. :-) Seriously though, I've given this situation a lot of thought, and I'm not thoroughly convinced an unshielded choke located in the nearfield of a radiating structure would necessarily attenuate currents flowing on the outside of the transmission line's shield. I think even a perfectly functioning, perfectly shielded balun *at the antenna feedpoint* might be somewhat moot unless the dipole is perfectly straight, and the feedline is run exactly perpendicular to the dipole (to equalize coupling to either side of the antenna). By the same token, I've often wondered just how balanced a balanced feedline really is under similar circumstances. Maybe twisting the line might help improve transmission line balance. Maybe using a tuner that can compensate for any voltage/current imbalance might be advantageous, as well. There are many complicating factors when it comes to antenna installation and operation. Fortunately, few, if any, turn out to be of much significance in the grand scheme of things... 73, de John, KD2BD Visit John on the Web at: http://kd2bd.ham.org/ . . . . Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 VS. Omni VII
I am a long time Ten Tec user interested in upgrading. I have never used a piece of Elecraft equipment but am very intrigued by the K3. Are there any Elecraft users who can give me some advice about what I may expect from the K3 vs the OMNI VII since they are both near the same price? Thanks, Anthony AA9OC -- Anthony, I doubt a fair comparison can be made without hands on with both radios. But I strongly suspect that the K3 will outperform the Omni VII, at least in most areas. Personally I think Wayne and Eric had the Orion clearly in their crosshairs when they designed the K3. The Omni VII will surely not be equal to the Orion, and the K3 will probably give the Orion a very good run for the money. There have already been inferences that the K3 specs will be better than the Orion. I'm betting they will be. If Ten-Tec gets its act together on software, the Omni VII will probably be a very good radio. I've been a Ten-Tec fan for a long time, and currently have an Orion II. I really like it! But I could not resist the K3, and I doubt I will be disappointed. You may spend as much on a K3 as you would an Omni VII, but you won't have to pay the price of an Orion II to get something that will probably beat both of them. But if there is any doubt in your mind, you might want to wait for the tale of the tape. I suspect that QST (and others) will be all over the K3 as soon as it hits the street. It shouldn't take too long thereafter to get some really meaningful comparative data. One thing for sure though, as good as Ten-Tec support has been over the years (notwithstanding all the software issues), you won't get better support than you get from Elecraft. And if for some reason you buy a K3 and don't like it, I'm reasonably confident you could sell it for little, if any, loss as the demand is apparently quite high. So, if it fits your budget, go for the K3! Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] PSK31 AS THE LAST RESORT MODE
You can't copy PSK31 in your head. You can't copy PSK31 from a flashlight. You can't copy PSK31 from touch. You can't copy PSK31 from sound. You can't copy PSK31 to fight sleep on long trips. You can't send PSK31 by touching two wires together. You can't send PSK31 by honking a horn. You can't send PSK31 by pressing a buzzer. You can't send PSK31 by light bulb. You can't send PSK31 by touch. You can't send PSK31 by tapcode in a Vietnamese prison. 73, Kent K9ZTV Jefferson City, MO Someone wrote: And speaking of digital communications, the loss of The Code as a gating factor is going to prompt a shift away from CW as the minimalist mode for HF. I believe that PSK31 is probably going to slowly take over that position as it can be done with equipment almost as simple as a CW rig and provides the same level of communications at similar power levels. I just don't think that CW will remain as the mainstay last resort communications mode.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Why I don't want a K3
Ever since the K3 was announced this reflector has been buzzing with questions and speculation about the K3. It has been dissected, picked apart, put back together, etc. I feel like I know it inside and out and I don't even own one yet! In fact, I'm pretty bored with it. I'm about ready to put my imaginary K3 up for sale. It does all the stuff you guys say it does and even better. So, what's next? :-) Just kidding! We are all like a bunch of little kids about a week before Christmas. I'm still building my K2 and I already want a K3! It will be interesting to see what kind of a ripple the K3 creates in the HF market. Will the other manufacturers respond? When? Will they up the bar a couple of notches? Have they been holding back? Will they re-think their designs? Will they adopt the modular approach? It's going to be interesting. I think Elecraft has really opened up the flood gates and I hope that they are very successful. I know that I will be ordering a K3 for sure. Gary, N7HTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: OT - 73 Magazine (was H mode mixer)
My memory isn't what it used to be, but wasn't Wayne also behind the Save 11 movement back in the late 1950s (when it was still a ham band, pre-CB)? I think that was when he was editor of CQ before he left and started 73. I remember there was a big contest held as a last hurrah for 11 meters. Bob, N7XY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 resale value?
One of the beautiful things about the K1 / K2 / KX1 series is that they assembled kits sell for at or near new kit price. So a schlep like me can buy a K2, assemble it, use it a bit and get my money back out of it. These are the only rigs that allow that sort of return. Enter the K3. It's not really a kit, at least not to the same level. I'm expecting the resale value of a K3 will be similar to the resale value of any other commercially produced ham rig. Pay $2000 for a new rig, sell it 1 year later for $1500. So, the Elecraft entry path will be to start with a K2 (or K1), see if you like their stuff, then, sell it (getting your $$ back) and buy a K3. I also wonder what will happen to the used value of a K2 as we'll see an increase in available rigs. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 stock TCXO vs. KTCXO3
Hi Guys, The optional TCXO3-1 is rated at a meager 1 ppm (software corrected to a beautiful .5 ppm.) ;-) What's the stock K3 TCXO rated, please? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag (OT)
Jack wrote: Wayne owes me about $2500. Wayne is one simple-minded bombastic buffoon, in addition to his legend misdealings with people such as cited above. For the past couple of decades he has often appeared on late-night kooky stupid AM radio with Art Bell, a much kindred spirit. For one of many similar examples, he claims that the manned lunar landings were hoaxes. His arguments are idiotic, and of the same characteristics as those used by the 9/11 controlled demolition conspriracy nitwits. See: http://www.clavius.org/bibwgreen.html . A way too-kind summary there states: Self-proclaimed truth seeker Wayne Green took on the moon hoax recently at his web site's blog, waynegreen.com. We have to congratulate Mr. Green on his ability to cram so much ignorance and misconception into such a small package. A response to his entry for 5/13/04 follows. I can tolerate stupid people. I can tolerate aggressive people. But aggressively stupid people are intolerable. I can't tolerate Wayne Green. Mike / KK5F ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 and Linearamp UK 811
Hi all, I am looking to connect my K2 via the above amplifier. The FR connections are obvious, do I simply need to connect the Amp key out on the back of the KPA100 to the PTT on the 811 or am I missing something? Ian -- Ian J Maude G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member of RSGB, ARRL, GQRP K2 #4044 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
You can send your creditcard to me. I'll help you. My adress is at QRZ.COM. 73 de LA1PHA Tom LOL!! - Original Message - From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!! I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 At first, resistance was easy. But then I'm seeing all the benefits and how cost-effective it is. And how it is so wonderfully designed And how flexible and robust the filtering scheme is And the sidetone is going to be pure (pure heaven) And support / repairs will be a breeze. And ... I'm getting weak and you guys are NOT helping! I need a K3 I need a K3 I need a K3 Someone please take my Visa card away before it's too late! LOL! - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.0/803 - Release Date: 13.05.2007 12:17 -- Jeg bruker gratisversjonen av SPAMfighter for privatbrukere. Den har fjernet 79 søppelpostmeldinger til nå. Betalende brukere har ikke denne meldingen i e-postene sine. Få tak i SPAMfighter gratis her: http://www.spamfighter.com/lno ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Panadapter / SoftRock
Or order a new SVR5 on the K3 IF. Leigh/WA5ZNU On Tue, 15 May 2007 9:27 am, W2AGN wrote: Don Rasmussen wrote: Question: Is it really as simple as changing the crystal in the SoftRock 40 from 7.038 to 8.215 to provide a band scope for the K3? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
What usually happens under those conditions may not damage the balun but does cause lots of RFI: the balun turns non-linear! When the magnetic flux saturates the core it heats and its magnetic properties change dramatically. That produces a non-linear transfer function. Non-linearity is the hallmark of a good mixer! So your balun starts making all sorts of unintentional RFI that wasn't at the output of the transmitter. Under such conditions the core is absorbing a lot of power too. Had you touched it, you'd probably have found it noticeably warm, perhaps even hot, possibly hot enough to blister your finger. At the extreme, the core will heat and crack, ruining it and the balun. But that doesn't always happen. Another temporary failure mode is arcing. That may be more obvious since you may hear it if the balun is nearby. Most baluns are not made to handle really large RF voltages. There isn't enough spacing between leads and terminals for that. The insulation on the wires isn't rated for high voltages. So, when you have it at a voltage loop and crank up the power, it's easy for an arc to occur across adjacent leads. If it's through the air between metallic conductors usually no harm is done. Often it's through the insulation of adjacent wires or across a PCB. In those cases a carbon trail is formed that will have to be removed before the balun will work properly again. The bottom line is that modern baluns are NOT designed to be used in systems with a wide range of impedances. You can get away with using a balun in a multiband doublet, Windom fed with parallel lines, G5RV, etc., only when those antennas happen to provide a reasonable impedance at the balun: neither too low (which would produce high RF currents) or too high (which would produce high RF voltages). Many years ago many of us did use baluns in such systems quite successfully. They used air core coils. Air does not saturate magnetically. They had large enough spacing to avoid arcing at high RF voltages. Such baluns commonly measured a foot square, or larger, by nearly a foot deep. They were generally mounted on the wall well away from anything that might draw an unintentional arc from the coils - such as the operator! There are times when size does matter! Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Markowski Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:08 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded The following happened to me a few years ago as a brand new ham in my pre-Elecraft days and I wonder if anyone can explain to me the details. I apparently had high swr and exceeded the rating on my balun. It suffered accordingly but didn't completely fail. The result was when I transmitted cw on 40m an internal fuse would blow in the stereo which was on in the next room room. It took two go rounds before I caught onto the cause and effect... A new better balun cured the problem. At the time I had a Zepp (135') and 4:1 balun at the house entrance. I assume the ruined balun was emitting all sorts of RF that the stereo amplifier picked up, tried to amplify, and couldn't. But I don't understand exactly what would make it draw that much current. Can someone enlighten me? By the way, since then I put up a dipole, halfwave for 160m, about 200' behind the house. That's what I should have begun with. Thanks! Mike ab3ap ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. I can provide a bit of personal experience. A few years ago, I wrote 8 or 10 construction articles for 73 Magazine, all of which were duly published. Payment for the first article was made in about 6 months. The remaining articles were not paid when 73 Magazine folded (about a year after my last article was published). Wayne owes me about $2500. Writing for an ARRL publication is quite different in this regard--a check for my two QEX articles arrived *before* the magazines hit my mailbox. That's extraordinary. My book publisher runs 3 to 4 months behind in royalty statements as well, so the ARRL is really outstanding in timely payment. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
A common thread running through the life of most authors is their difficulty getting paid by publishers, being stiffed by unscrupulous publishers, etc. The amount is small, typically on the order of $50 or so per published page in the small magazine world, based on my experience, at least, but it's still difficult to get paid, or if the publisher is honest, getting paid on a timely basis. The ARRL is a welcome exception to this. I'm glad I don't have to earn a living writing for amateur radio journals. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. I can provide a bit of personal experience. A few years ago, I wrote 8 or 10 construction articles for 73 Magazine, all of which were duly published. Payment for the first article was made in about 6 months. The remaining articles were not paid when 73 Magazine folded (about a year after my last article was published). Wayne owes me about $2500. Writing for an ARRL publication is quite different in this regard--a check for my two QEX articles arrived *before* the magazines hit my mailbox. That's extraordinary. My book publisher runs 3 to 4 months behind in royalty statements as well, so the ARRL is really outstanding in timely payment. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Err, Wayne was not alone in this practice- several publishers of the time were known for their pay on threat of lawsuit practices. 73, doug From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 16:49:52 + Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. I can provide a bit of personal experience. A few years ago, I wrote 8 or 10 construction articles for 73 Magazine, all of which were duly published. Payment for the first article was made in about 6 months. The remaining articles were not paid when 73 Magazine folded (about a year after my last article was published). Wayne owes me about $2500. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Doug, Ah, how well I relate. I wrote 4 articles for 73. It took a year to get payment for the first two and then only because Wayne wanted my next two. These last two I never got a dime for because 73 folded. I figure I made about $5 and hour for my articles. Hardly worth it. There was a time when Wayne seem pretty rational. But, somewhere in the 90's his editorials became an intellectual disgrace. Not to mention his constant berating of people who are not rich like me and his unending self-aggrandizement. His agreement with René and the absurd assertion in his book that the moon-landing was a hoax was, I imagine, the last straw for many. Still, Wayne did a lot to move VHF FM into the mainstream. This and many other things were important and significant contributions of his. 73, Doug -- K0DXV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. I can provide a bit of personal experience. A few years ago, I wrote 8 or 10 construction articles for 73 Magazine, all of which were duly published. Payment for the first article was made in about 6 months. The remaining articles were not paid when 73 Magazine folded (about a year after my last article was published). Wayne owes me about $2500. Writing for an ARRL publication is quite different in this regard--a check for my two QEX articles arrived *before* the magazines hit my mailbox. That's extraordinary. My book publisher runs 3 to 4 months behind in royalty statements as well, so the ARRL is really outstanding in timely payment. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Panadapter / SoftRock
Is it really as simple as changing the crystal in the SoftRock 40 from 7.038 to 8.215 to provide a band scope for the K3? Seems too easy. I use the Rocky program to manage the display. You do NOT want an 8.215 MHz crystal (or 4 x 8.215 MHz) for the softrock if you attach it to the IF pickup of the K3 for a bandscope. The softock has very little isolation of the L.O. to its antenna input, and you'll inject a lot of energy directly into the IF of the K3. You want the softrock injection on the LOW side of 8.215 MHz. I can't tell you what the best frequency might be because I don't know, but I suspect 8.200 or thereabouts. You may also want/need an isolation amplifier to ensure the reverse coupling back into the K3 is at a very low level. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Hey guys, this really isn't the place for this thread, but if you must post, PLEASE say Wayne Green (or whatever his name is). Someone searching for Wayne on the archives will get a lot of hits. They need to know the difference between Wayne Burdick (N6KR) and this other fellow. Dan / WG4S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Person Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag Doug, Ah, how well I relate. I wrote 4 articles for 73. It took a year to get payment for the first two and then only because Wayne wanted my next two. These last two I never got a dime for because 73 folded. I figure I made about $5 and hour for my articles. Hardly worth it. There was a time when Wayne seem pretty rational. But, somewhere in the 90's his editorials became an intellectual disgrace. Not to mention his constant berating of people who are not rich like me and his unending self-aggrandizement. His agreement with René and the absurd assertion in his book that the moon-landing was a hoax was, I imagine, the last straw for many. Still, Wayne did a lot to move VHF FM into the mainstream. This and many other things were important and significant contributions of his. 73, Doug -- K0DXV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. Doug, W6JD -- Original message -- From: Jack Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] You say Wayne Green was a cheapskate. I take your word for that. I can provide a bit of personal experience. A few years ago, I wrote 8 or 10 construction articles for 73 Magazine, all of which were duly published. Payment for the first article was made in about 6 months. The remaining articles were not paid when 73 Magazine folded (about a year after my last article was published). Wayne owes me about $2500. Writing for an ARRL publication is quite different in this regard--a check for my two QEX articles arrived *before* the magazines hit my mailbox. That's extraordinary. My book publisher runs 3 to 4 months behind in royalty statements as well, so the ARRL is really outstanding in timely payment. Jack K8ZOA www.cliftonlaboratories.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Err, Wayne was not alone in this practice- several publishers of the time were known for their pay on threat of lawsuit practices. I was paid for my articles by 73 Magazine (and Ham Radio, and QST, and QEX...) before they were published. Never had a moment's quibble. 73, Lyle kK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
Not necessarily ham radio publishers, and not all publishers. And generally not every time, either. 73, doug From: lyle johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:37:17 -0700 Err, Wayne was not alone in this practice- several publishers of the time were known for their pay on threat of lawsuit practices. I was paid for my articles by 73 Magazine (and Ham Radio, and QST, and QEX...) before they were published. Never had a moment's quibble. 73, Lyle kK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Panadapter / SoftRock
This brings up a question I asked a while back, and I don't think it made it into the FAQ. In a dual-receiver K3, does the IF pickup port reflect the IF of only the main receiver? Is it switchable between receivers? Or is there a separate IF port on the subreceiver? Bill / W5WVO lyle johnson wrote: You do NOT want an 8.215 MHz crystal (or 4 x 8.215 MHz) for the softrock if you attach it to the IF pickup of the K3 for a bandscope. The softock has very little isolation of the L.O. to its antenna input, and you'll inject a lot of energy directly into the IF of the K3. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:22:46 -0600, Doug Person wrote: I made about $5 and hour for my articles. Hardly worth it. Yes. I've done a lot of technical writing that's been published, and for which I've been paid, and a lot of technical writing for which I don't expect to make a penny. Although I'm pretty good at it, I don't think I've ever made more than about $30/hour for writing, and a third of that is more typical. Publishers are CHEAP, and are VERY disrespectful of technical people as writers. On the other hand, there is a group of writers who work for manufacturers writing what are essentially PR pieces. They typically know nothing technical themselves, but call those who do and ask them questions, write the piece, and sometimes send it to back us to check it. I found myself rewriting their stuff in self-defense to correct all the mistakes. These folks get paid VERY well. I used to cooperate with them until I figured this out. Now, I refuse to talk to them unless I'm also getting paid VERY well. There's a broad sample of my writing at http://audiosystemsgroup.com/publish Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: balun rating exceeded
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:35:03 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: The bottom line is that modern baluns are NOT designed to be used in systems with a wide range of impedances. I suggest that those interested in this thread study my tutorial on RFI and ferrites. It includes a long section on choke baluns. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf I am currently working on updating the cookbook section with improved specific recommendations about how coaxial choke baluns must be wound to minimize stray capacitance. I've done enough work on this to have a good handle on what works and what doesn't, but had to interrupt it for a biz trip to Europe. Until I've finished that and posted it, I'll simply say that the coax should be closely spaced ONLY where it goes through the toroids, and VERY WIDELY SPACED everywhere else. The difference between a coaxial choke with close spaced turns and one with wide spaced turns is HUGE. For example, five CLOSE-spaced turns of RG8 through five #31 toroids will cause a resonance (and peak performance) in the 2-3 MHz range, while WIDE-spaced turns will yield excellent performance all the way up to 10 meters. 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RTTY vs. PSK31 (was: OT - 73 Magazine (was H mode mixer))
Whether is PSK or another protocol, is to be seen. Judging by the numbers of participants in RTTY contests these days, it is a fast growing segment. Change is good, unsettling yes, but the possibilities are worth the uncertainty... CW remains a mainstay because it is an efficient mode. You can communicate with very low power levels which makes QRP reasonable. RTTY is not nearly so efficient and requires much more energy per bit to get good copy. It forces you into more QRO operation. PSK31 is as narrow as CW which lets you use narrow filters to lower the noise energy in the passband. It also incorporates forward error correction which allows it to still give good copy with very marginal signals. Now that is not to say that PSK31 is the be-all and end-all for casual QSOs but I personally think that it is the first of some very interesting modulation schemes that will provide the same level of performance as CW. And since new hams don't have to know the code anymore ... 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Instant Gratification
You know, with all the K3 hullabaloo...I find some of the thought processes is some emails to be quite disturbing. The rig has not even been delivered yet and people are looking at the resale value after a year. Or, people are comparing the K3 to the Omni VII or FT2000.. Or, trying to figure out how a filter they already own will fit in the K3. This kind of thinking has been going on for quite a while and I am amazed how these types of thoughts roll around people's heads...and end up as email topics on the E reflector. The k3 has yet to be deliveredand yet...there are people thinking so far ahead of themselves they seem not to appreciate the moment. Amazing! How we want to know all the answers right now...if this then what happens...or will it run on 220? (The last was a joke...don't take is any other way!) The speculation about the K3 and how it stacks up to the others has been endless...and today...we know very little about the K3's numbers, figures, data, or specs. So, with that saidlet us all waitwait...for the guys in Aptos to get the crucial information to us before we speculate everything into the ground. Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salientbut let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless. We live in a world of instant gratificationlet's just wait. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] H-Mode Mixers
Thanks to all for the URL's and descriptions, most of which were direct and not on the reflector ... thanks for that too :-) I now know way more than I understand about H-mode mixers [and A thru Z mode too + names I've never heard of]. I believe I am going to leave the mixer business to Wayne and Eric. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Panadapter / SoftRock
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:07:36 -0600 Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...In a dual-receiver K3, does the IF pickup port reflect the IF of only the main receiver? Is it switchable between receivers? Or is there a separate IF port on the subreceiver? Currently, the KXV3 provides one jack for an internal cable to either the main or the sub receiver's buffered IF output. We're looking at the practicality of making this selectable. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 resale value?
Kieth, Let me speculate a bit on why the KX1, K1 and K2 hold close to the new kit prices - Elecraft has done with those rigs something almost unheard of from manufacturers - every one of those rigs is fully upgradeable to the equal of the very latest level. Oh, yes, there are some differences between the pre 3000 SN boards and the post 3000 SN boards, but all the earlier kits can be upgraded none-the-less. My Field Test K2 SN 00020 is stuffed with all the possible options and is currently at the same electrical equivalent of SN 6000, and to tell the truth, one would have to know where to look to see an obvious difference in the parts placements. Other manufacturers would likely release a new model of the base rig (Omni vs. Omni II for example), and not offer any kind of upgrade path (at any cost). In fact, they often drop support of older models after a few years - no parts available. So since an old K2 is as valuable as a new one (OK, you may have to shell out for some upgrade kits if you buy an unupgraded older K2), I believe that is the main reason the prices stay high. I don't think anyone knows how hardware upgrades for the K3 will be handled, but I expect to see a parallel path to the K2 history. 73, Don W3FPR Darwin, Keith wrote: One of the beautiful things about the K1 / K2 / KX1 series is that they assembled kits sell for at or near new kit price. So a schlep like me can buy a K2, assemble it, use it a bit and get my money back out of it. These are the only rigs that allow that sort of return. Enter the K3. It's not really a kit, at least not to the same level. I'm expecting the resale value of a K3 will be similar to the resale value of any other commercially produced ham rig. Pay $2000 for a new rig, sell it 1 year later for $1500. So, the Elecraft entry path will be to start with a K2 (or K1), see if you like their stuff, then, sell it (getting your $$ back) and buy a K3. I also wonder what will happen to the used value of a K2 as we'll see an increase in available rigs. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Roofing Filter Overkill
N2DTS wrote: The K3 2.7 KHz filter is just the first filter, unless you have real strong local signals close, you likely wont have any problems. This is very good advice. Some may forget that the DSP filters in the 2nd IF are the primary means for achieving selectivity. The 1st IF roofing filter is simply preventing issues caused by very strong signals from reaching the DSP stage. Now if you often find yourself working a signal and having a real strong signal very close, you might think about something narrower... I would suggest not adding filters unless you ACTUALLY experience problems. Since many of us tend to be closet engineers, we tend to overkill potential problems that will most likely never exist. If you actually do experience a problem, ordering a filter is easy and you'll have it in 2-3 days via Priority Mail. I'll repeat why a 200-250 Hz filter is most likely a good example of overkill in our real world of transmitter phase noise, key clicks, etc. Let's assume you have a S9+40 dB signal spaced 200 Hz from your operating frequency that is causing desensing, either BDR or analog AGC activation (i.e. pumping). First let's try Inrad's 400 Hz 8-pole filter below (identical for K3): http://www.qth.com/inrad/graphs/701.gif The graph is not quite centered but the 6 dB bandwidth is 435 Hz (i.e. +/- 218 Hz from center) so the rejection at 200 Hz from the center is just under 6 dB. We now have a S9+34 dB signal at 200 Hz away from us. Possibly some help if it prevents the signal from activating analog AGC (assuming the DSP ADC limit is around S9+35). Next let's try a 250 Hz 4-pole filter like Inrad's for Orion II (we don't yet have a plot of K3's 200 Hz 5-pole but I expect it may not differ significantly in shape factor from Inrad's below). http://www.qth.com/inrad/graphs/353.gif Because the 6 dB bandwidth is actually 562 Hz, it will actually have *less* rejection at 200 Hz than the 8-pole 400 Hz above. OK let's try another. Inrad's 250 Hz 8-pole (again identical to that in the K3). http://www.qth.com/inrad/graphs/708.gif The 6 dB bandwidth is actually 370 Hz, so it has the best rejection at 200 Hz spacings (but only marginally better than the 8-pole 400 Hz above which has a 6 dB bandwidth only 65 Hz wider (435-370). In the real world, will ANY of these filters really allow us to operate 200 Hz from an S9+40 dB signal? The simple answer is NO. Why? Because the transmitted phase noise (for only a steady state carrier) far overrides desense issues. Furthermore, when the carrier is keyed, we must then add the effects of key clicks. We actually are pressing our luck if we try to operate 500 Hz from such a strong signal, and I doubt very few on this list have ever done that unless they are very serious contesters. Bottom line...we can add the world's best filter but it will NOT solve the fundamental problem of transmitter phase noise and key clicks, which become the limiting factors at very close spacings. Today Orion has the best close-in phase noise performance and CW waveform shaping of any commercial rig, but its sidebands are down only about 70 dB at 1 kHz spacings. Move closer and it is more like 30 dB down at 200 Hz spacings. What good does it do if we could achieve IMD of 100 dB and BDR of 140 dB at 200 Hz spacings when the interfering transmitter signal itself overrides the receiver's performance by at least 60-70 dB? That's pure overkill and a waste of money IMHO. 200-250 Hz roofing filters might make us feel good but, in the real world of transmitted phase noise and key clicks, they will not allow us to operate significantly closer than we could with 400-500 Hz filters. And, as we saw above with the 4-pole 250 Hz, we may want to see all filter plots before we decide which is actually better. I ordered my K3 without any optional filters, and I may even swap out the 2.7 kHz 5-pole once I see complete IMD/BDR performance data and the actual filter plots. 73, Bill W4ZV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] W1 Wattmeter/SWR Bridge + KX1
I finished the W1 computing wattmeter, and put it in W8FGU's nifty polycarbonate enclosure. It was an easy build, some tidbits and links can be found at www.foothill.net/~andreaj/Ham45.htm While fooling with the KX1 and BuddiPole on the deck on a balmy evening, I discovered that if I remove the tilt stand on Dave's enclosure [easy, it's fastened with velcro], a double male BNC will couple the wattmeter to the KX1 and the combination lays flat on the table. I can tune the BP with the W1, making it unnecessary to carry the antenna analyzer along on field expeditions. All in all, a nifty little arrangement. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org PS: Enough BNC adapters and I could probably do something similar with my K2 :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] W1 Wattmeter/SWR Bridge + KX1
Cool. I'm getting close to finishing my W1 and putting it in a W8FGU enclosure. How do the KX1 power readings compare to the W1 readings? 73! Dan KB6NU -- CW Geek and MI Affiliated Club Coordinator Read my ham radio blog at www.kb6nu.com LET'S GET MORE KIDS INTO HAM RADIO! On May 15, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I finished the W1 computing wattmeter, and put it in W8FGU's nifty polycarbonate enclosure. It was an easy build, some tidbits and links can be found at www.foothill.net/~andreaj/Ham45.htm While fooling with the KX1 and BuddiPole on the deck on a balmy evening, I discovered that if I remove the tilt stand on Dave's enclosure [easy, it's fastened with velcro], a double male BNC will couple the wattmeter to the KX1 and the combination lays flat on the table. I can tune the BP with the W1, making it unnecessary to carry the antenna analyzer along on field expeditions. All in all, a nifty little arrangement. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org PS: Enough BNC adapters and I could probably do something similar with my K2 :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification
Well, Lee, I see a different side to it. I think we're all quite aware that the K3 isn't here yet and is an unproven item. Still we have indication of how it will likely end up. All the chat / speculation / conjecture has spurred a lot of solid technical discussion which has been great on the list. We've learned about receiver design and about good and bad points of other rigs. Good stuff. And some of us fully consider all the aspects of something before buying. When buying a new car, we'll look at safety, dimensions, cargo capacity, towing capacity, EPA estimates and yes, even resale value, to gain a better overall picture of what we're spending our money on. We'll even consider those things for a model that hasn't quite made it to dealer's showrooms yet. Failure to do means you'll be set up for a surprise when you buy the item and find it won't tow your trailer or you can't fit your guitar into the trunk or you can't get in and out of the back seat. The more you learn, the better informed you are and the more likely you are to have a realistic expectation of what the item will and won't do. As to these discussions being pointless, there are a lot of different people chiming in on a lot of different topics. There is excitement in the air and many people are tuned in. I'd say the discussions are far from pointless. Some of us (not me) were planning to buy a rig but now are going to wait to see what the K3 offers. Were it not for the discussions, they may have gone ahead and ordered. I do agree that we have to be careful when we say what will and won't be but again, I don't think any of are really thinking there are any guarantees at this point. So I say let the discussions / radio theory / speculation continue. It is great fun and really stretches a person's brain, maybe even to the breaking point? - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - -Original Message- From: Lee Buller Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:15 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification You know, with all the K3 hullabaloo...I find some of the thought processes is some emails to be quite disturbing. The rig has not even been delivered yet and people are looking at the resale value after a year. Or, people are comparing the K3 to the Omni VII or FT2000.. Or, trying to figure out how a filter they already own will fit in the K3. This kind of thinking has been going on for quite a while and I am amazed how these types of thoughts roll around people's heads...and end up as email topics on the E reflector. The k3 has yet to be deliveredand yet...there are people thinking so far ahead of themselves they seem not to appreciate the moment. Amazing! How we want to know all the answers right now...if this then what happens...or will it run on 220? (The last was a joke...don't take is any other way!) The speculation about the K3 and how it stacks up to the others has been endless...and today...we know very little about the K3's numbers, figures, data, or specs. So, with that saidlet us all waitwait...for the guys in Aptos to get the crucial information to us before we speculate everything into the ground. Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salientbut let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless. We live in a world of instant gratificationlet's just wait. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Panadapter / SoftRock
I think this will be really interesting. Some surplus xtals seem to be available as close as 32,768MHz (8,192). If you have 2 separate RX, why not have 2 SoftRock (cheap) or two input to 1 SoftRock ? Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification
When buying a new car, we'll look at safety, dimensions, cargo capacity, towing capacity, EPA estimates and yes, even resale value, to gain a better overall picture of what we're spending our money on. Yes, and I'd like that with a bench-type seat (no console) to easily accommodate a K3. Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Digital SSB..?
I do not recall having yet seen any mention of digital SSB or other digitized voice possibilities for the K3. I'll confess to being ignorant of this topic. Perhaps someone can address the possibility or non-possibility of this. Regards, Dick - KA5KKT/4 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS new K2 firmware kit
Surplus to my needs: I have a new FWK2MCUIO firmware kit with versions 2.04P (Main), 1.09 (IOC) for sale Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bob Johansen WB2SRF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification
Keith, I agree that some of the discussion has been good ... in fact great! Remember, I I wrote Yes, it is exciting and some questions are salientbut let's not kill the joy of the moment by debating or discussing K3 topics that are ... well ... just plain pointless. Again, I said salient But come onthere has to be some point that is good for the discussion, not some pointless blather and speculation. Lee - K0WA Gee - I wonder how the K3 will perform against a SB-101? or Does the K3 have a filling hole for more QSOs? In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense devine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RTTY vs. PSK31 (was: OT - 73 Magazine (was H mode mixer))
In my humble opinion, I would say PSK, generally, has it all over RTTY. Communication can be maintained with very marginal signals, and very nearby signals (unless they are dirty or overpowering the receiver's AGC system). I have used a lot of RTTY systems over the years and they require MORE bandwidth, more power for effective communication (generally), and subject nearby signals more interference (generally). The largest bug I have found in the PSK system is that it is mangled by propagation phase shifts caused by auroral disturbances even though audibly, the signal sounds OK. I consider this acceptable as it (PSK31) seems to get through much more efficiently than RTTY with less power. Speed in this case not a factor in keyboard to keyboard QSO's. I can see no sense in using MORE bandwidth than a PSK31 signal to convey normal QSO information. Other modes capable of data and image communication in addition to normal keyboard QSO's wind up being gross overkill and use spectrum space a lot more inefficiently. Spectrum space for CW, digital modes is shrinking from demands made for voice and wide data modes. Therefore it would behoove us to contrate our efforts on the narrowest digital mode that will give satisfactory communication in these days of decreasing spectrum space. An amazing amount of use is being made of just a 3-5 Khz. sub band for PSK operations on most bands from 80-10 meters. It amazes me why this mode isn't replacing RTTY, and remains a popular FSK mode. It would be like comparing effectiveness of SSB voice mode to the older AM voice mode. I can't see people changing over to AM, even as a fad, over SSB operations. It's starkly obvious which is generally superior! My two pennies worth on this thread. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: J F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: [Elecraft] RTTY vs. PSK31 (was: OT - 73 Magazine (was H mode mixer)) Whether is PSK or another protocol, is to be seen. Judging by the numbers of participants in RTTY contests these days, it is a fast growing segment. Change is good, unsettling yes, but the possibilities are worth the uncertainty... CW remains a mainstay because it is an efficient mode. You can communicate with very low power levels which makes QRP reasonable. RTTY is not nearly so efficient and requires much more energy per bit to get good copy. It forces you into more QRO operation. PSK31 is as narrow as CW which lets you use narrow filters to lower the noise energy in the passband. It also incorporates forward error correction which allows it to still give good copy with very marginal signals. Now that is not to say that PSK31 is the be-all and end-all for casual QSOs but I personally think that it is the first of some very interesting modulation schemes that will provide the same level of performance as CW. And since new hams don't have to know the code anymore ... 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 resale value?
Hi Don; I sent my Omni VI in for a + up-grade. They couldn't make the changes as there are more up-grade parts (filter boards) in stock. Pete kn6bi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:40 PM To: Darwin, Keith Cc: Elecraft Subject:Re: [Elecraft] K3 resale value? Kieth, Let me speculate a bit on why the KX1, K1 and K2 hold close to the new kit prices - Elecraft has done with those rigs something almost unheard of from manufacturers - every one of those rigs is fully upgradeable to the equal of the very latest level. Oh, yes, there are some differences between the pre 3000 SN boards and the post 3000 SN boards, but all the earlier kits can be upgraded none-the-less. My Field Test K2 SN 00020 is stuffed with all the possible options and is currently at the same electrical equivalent of SN 6000, and to tell the truth, one would have to know where to look to see an obvious difference in the parts placements. Other manufacturers would likely release a new model of the base rig (Omni vs. Omni II for example), and not offer any kind of upgrade path (at any cost). In fact, they often drop support of older models after a few years - no parts available. So since an old K2 is as valuable as a new one (OK, you may have to shell out for some upgrade kits if you buy an unupgraded older K2), I believe that is the main reason the prices stay high. I don't think anyone knows how hardware upgrades for the K3 will be handled, but I expect to see a parallel path to the K2 history. 73, Don W3FPR Darwin, Keith wrote: One of the beautiful things about the K1 / K2 / KX1 series is that they assembled kits sell for at or near new kit price. So a schlep like me can buy a K2, assemble it, use it a bit and get my money back out of it. These are the only rigs that allow that sort of return. Enter the K3. It's not really a kit, at least not to the same level. I'm expecting the resale value of a K3 will be similar to the resale value of any other commercially produced ham rig. Pay $2000 for a new rig, sell it 1 year later for $1500. So, the Elecraft entry path will be to start with a K2 (or K1), see if you like their stuff, then, sell it (getting your $$ back) and buy a K3. I also wonder what will happen to the used value of a K2 as we'll see an increase in available rigs. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com __ NOD32 2268 (20070515) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RTTY vs PSK31
Brian Lloyd wrote: CW remains a mainstay because it is an efficient mode. You can communicate with very low power levels which makes QRP reasonable. Don't know about others, but I get much more enjoyment from listening to the guy I'm in QSO with rather than looking at the screen as he types. I left nearly all my hearing on the other side of the planet 40+ years ago, so CW is my preferred HF mode. SSB works for me for multi-station Q's [which we used to call round-tables ... let's see, who do I turn it to next?], so long as the signals are strong and in the clear. Other than contests, I find the digital modes to be somewhat boring. YMMV 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2007 CQP Oct 6-7 - www.cqp.org If you're in your 20's and want to make God laugh, tell him the plans you have for your life. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 1st production run full - details?
It is proprietary, but its a lot ;-) . We increased our initial production run and following ones to accommodate the order rate. 73, Eric WA6HHQ DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote: Wayne, Eric, et al: Okay, it is now posted on the order form that: * Our July/August production run is now full. New K3 orders received after 1800Z 5/14/07 will ship from our second production run. (Sept.) Come on guys (gals)...how many radios? Why would that be proprietary? de Doug KR2Q ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] On my way to Dayton
Hi Folks, Just wanted to let you know that I am closing things down right now to prepare for my drive to Dayton and FDIM early tomorrow morning. For those who are going, I will see some of you there. I plan to do a toroid winding/stripping demo at the Elecraft booth at 10AM and again at 2PM each day (time and space at the booth permitting). Drop by and say 'hello', and catch a look at the new K3 while you are there. I will have the laptop available, so email is a good means of communication between now and Sunday night. Pardon if I don't get back to you promptly, there are lots of fun things to do during Dayton Time. 73, Don W3FPR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 1st production run full - details?
It is proprietary, but its a lot ;-) Oh boy, it's yastsa time... My wild stab would 500 for the first run and 500 for the second run My sincere congratulations to the guys in Aptos - This shows how good a job they done over the last several years. vy 73 de toby PS: yastsa = yet another subject to speculate about -- DD5FZ, 4N6FZ (ex dj7mgq, dg5mgq, dd5fz) K2 #885, K2/100 #3248 K3/100 #??? ( #200) DOK C12, BCC, DL-QRP-AG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 stock TCXO vs. KTCXO3
5 ppm. Eric WA6HHQ Don Rasmussen wrote: Hi Guys, The optional TCXO3-1 is rated at a meager 1 ppm (software corrected to a beautiful .5 ppm.) ;-) What's the stock K3 TCXO rated, please? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
Darwin, Keith wrote: I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 I don't need a K3 This one is a no-brainer for me. I can't afford one - it's that simple. If I make any attempts to procure one, my wife would have a fit (sorry, W2AGN!) In the long run, I'll be happy with my K2 ... for now. 73 de Larry W2LJ -- 73 de Larry W2LJ QRP - When you care to use the very least! http://www.w2lj.qrpradio.com http://w2lj.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification
Excitement produces stream-of-consciousness chatter, just like a good brainstorming session. At such times there are no good or bad thoughts or ideas, just ideas that trigger other thoughts and comments. It's fun to see such excitement here! Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] STOP with the K3 posts already!!
I was thinking the same thing. -- W2CVZ, Michael ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2's internal voltmeter adjustment?
I'm still getting to know my new/used K2 #2481 the voltage reading when I hit display twice says 12.1 volts. when I check my external battery voltage (with a Sencore digital meter) I get 12.76 volts Where in the manual is there a pointer to an adjustment for the internal voltmeter, or is there one? -- GB 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RTTY vs. PSK31 (was: OT - 73 Magazine (was H modemixer))
Good points Sandy, but you know there are a lot of guys with old Type 47 and 33 mechanical printers out there who enjoy firing them up and hearing them rattle the windows of the shack pounding out TTY on paper by the hour. As far as I know, not a one of them will do PSK or any other TOR mode. While many Hams keep their eyes squarely on the future, many look back to the past. Shoot, there are even many Hams who build and operate vacuum tube gear and some who have yet to utter a single word on 'phone using anything but AM phone! G I agree that we should conserve spectrum as a matter of good stewardship of the resource but out here in the west, at least, we have lots and lots of KHz on the HF bands that are unoccupied except, perhaps, during a contest. If the day ever comes that we do find ourselves unable to squeeze in sideways on a band, perhaps we'll need to re-think the use of some wider bandwidth modes, just like King Spark was outlawed for just that reason about 75 years ago. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- In my humble opinion, I would say PSK, generally, has it all over RTTY. Communication can be maintained with very marginal signals, and very nearby signals (unless they are dirty or overpowering the receiver's AGC system). I have used a lot of RTTY systems over the years and they require MORE bandwidth, more power for effective communication (generally), and subject nearby signals more interference (generally). The largest bug I have found in the PSK system is that it is mangled by propagation phase shifts caused by auroral disturbances even though audibly, the signal sounds OK. I consider this acceptable as it (PSK31) seems to get through much more efficiently than RTTY with less power. Speed in this case not a factor in keyboard to keyboard QSO's. I can see no sense in using MORE bandwidth than a PSK31 signal to convey normal QSO information. Other modes capable of data and image communication in addition to normal keyboard QSO's wind up being gross overkill and use spectrum space a lot more inefficiently. Spectrum space for CW, digital modes is shrinking from demands made for voice and wide data modes. Therefore it would behoove us to contrate our efforts on the narrowest digital mode that will give satisfactory communication in these days of decreasing spectrum space. An amazing amount of use is being made of just a 3-5 Khz. sub band for PSK operations on most bands from 80-10 meters. It amazes me why this mode isn't replacing RTTY, and remains a popular FSK mode. It would be like comparing effectiveness of SSB voice mode to the older AM voice mode. I can't see people changing over to AM, even as a fad, over SSB operations. It's starkly obvious which is generally superior! My two pennies worth on this thread. 73, Sandy W5TVW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Instant Gratification
Thom LaCosta wrote: I think the Elecraft folks not only deserve congratulation and thanks, but a commendation for operating their business at such high standards. I totally agree with all you have said, now if they would just start a separate list for all things K3, this feeding frenzy is never going to end, well at least not for the next 2 years. -- GB 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 1st production run full - details?
Come on guys (gals)...how many radios? Why would that be proprietary? Really Does Macys tell Gimbels ? cu tomorrow !!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]@%$# I get to see my new K3 bill ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Panadapter for K3 IF
Lyle and all - You wrote: You want the softrock injection on the LOW side of 8.215 MHz. I can't tell you what the best frequency might be because I don't know, but I suspect 8.200 or thereabouts. If you place the local oscillator on the low side of the IF by an amount slighter greater than the IF bandwidth you don't need an I/Q or software receiver at all do you? The signals you want will be in the IF pass band above the local oscillator and the images will be below the oscillator, you will get single signal reception from a DC receiver. You will need a wide audio filter, but you may be able to implement a simple one in the computer. Dave Benson's Warbler on 80 M uses this technique. Then just use one of many spectrum analyzer programs for your shack computer to display the signals in the bandwidth. These are usually good to at least 20 kHz or half the sampling rate. Or am I missing something simple? - Duffey ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2's internal voltmeter adjustment?
Sam Morgan wrote: I'm still getting to know my new/used K2 #2481 the voltage reading when I hit display twice says 12.1 volts. when I check my external battery voltage (with a Sencore digital meter) I get 12.76 volts Where in the manual is there a pointer to an adjustment for the internal voltmeter, or is there one? thanks to all who replied off list mystery solved protection diode = voltage drop = the missing .66v -- GB 73's KA5OAI Sam Morgan ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 73 Mag
On May 15, 2007, at 9:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back in 1956 when I was a senior in high school I wrote an article for CQ describing a plate modulator I homebrewed for my Heath AT-1 (ah, the memories). Anyway, Wayne published the article and promised prompt payment (I can't remember the amount but it certainly wasn't a lot). Days passed, and weeks, and months and . despite several letters asking where the hell was the money (by this time I was a starving Stanford undergrad). No money, and to this day I've never bought another issue of CQ. FWIW, 73 paid me on-time every time for my Packet Talk column. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Keyboard question
Can someone aim me at a small keyboard? I realize that small is relative, so let's say something that's appropiate for my K3. Something on the order of a small laptop keyboard in a housing. I've walked the isles of a few computer departments scanning the shelves, asked sales folks and haven't found anything. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Panadapter for K3 IF
The IF bandwidth is as wide as the input bandpass filter. A DC receiver won't work, you really need an I/Q receiver like the SoftRock. Jean-Claude PJ2BVU -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.1/805 - Release Date: 5/15/2007 10:47 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboard question
At 3:24 AM + 5/16/07, Ken Kopp wrote: Can someone aim me at a small keyboard? I realize that small is relative, so let's say something that's appropiate for my K3. Something on the order of a small laptop keyboard in a housing. I like the Happy Hacker keyboards but it may be a bit pricey for this. cybergys.com sells a generic black mini ps/2 keyboard for $25 or so. Also good. -- Ward / KG6HAF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboard question
Maybe something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823166018 73 Larry WA2DGD Ken Kopp wrote: Can someone aim me at a small keyboard? I realize that small is relative, so let's say something that's appropiate for my K3. Something on the order of a small laptop keyboard in a housing. I've walked the isles of a few computer departments scanning the shelves, asked sales folks and haven't found anything. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Keyboard question
On May 15, 2007, at 8:24 PM, Ken Kopp wrote: Can someone aim me at a small keyboard? I realize that small is relative, so let's say something that's appropiate for my K3. Something on the order of a small laptop keyboard in a housing. Do a search on Google for compact computer keyboard. 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] (no subject)
Sorry fellas: The YF (XYL with call) KF6DZP has the K3 announcement from the DX convention magged to the refrigerator. Worst scenario, I might have to buy 2 ! Suggestion for the Tee shirt: Headset taking a rap on the forehead with the text I could have had a K3! (apologies to Campbell Foods Div.) Al WA6VNN ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Let The Good Times Roll
It's fun to see such excitement here! Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC -I'm going to screw this up I know, but when I lived in Louisiana, that was the motto!It went Laissez les bon temps rolliere, or something like that. Help me out you cajuns!I never learned french (or their version) while down there, but I sure enjoyed the parties!Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FW: Some k3 questions
Speaking of transverters I missed some questions aroun them Was there any answers in the storm of email! Simon Lewis GM4PLM/DL4PLM http://www.dl4plm.net Speking of transverters Will the K3 display be changeable like the K2 so you get 144.xxx 50.xxx 222. etc If you can allow us to add the display to 1296. for future upconverting I will buy loads of K3s! :-) What about the CW keyer ... And the DVR - any idea on fuctionality Can they be controlled ala' icom style by a small keypad remotely?? And any beacon modes..? All helpful to us SHF ops ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
