Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-12 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:


Or buy an adapter at radio shack...Gender changers.

Better still, make yourself a universal gender-changer/extension-cable. 
Buy two male DB9 connectors for ribbon cable, and two female, then 
squeeze them onto a foot of 9-way ribbon cable like this:


M==F==M==F

Take great care about the polarity and orientation of the connectors - 
they must follow pin 1 to pin1 all the way.


It's a very handy thing to have around the shack.


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
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[Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

2007-12-12 Thread Bill Tippett
   The download went fine again after in initial glitch which required 
removing power to shut the K3 off.  My heart skipped a beat when it came 
back up with a dark LCD display and the red TX LED flashing.  But then I 
realized it was reloading and all was OK.


   Just for my curiousity, the K3 Utility screen says:

   Installed in K3   Available

MCU 01.48  01.48
DSP1 01.45  01.45
DSP2 N/A01.36
(DVR)(N/A) (Missing)

(  ) above is light gray...i.e. not active

What is DSP2 above and why is it Available but N/A?

  73,  Bill  W4ZV


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AW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

2007-12-12 Thread Koppendorfer Klaus
DSP2 is for he 2nd Receiver

 
 
 The download went fine again after in initial glitch which
 required
 removing power to shut the K3 off.  My heart skipped a beat when it
came
 back up with a dark LCD display and the red TX LED flashing.  But then
I
 realized it was reloading and all was OK.
 
 Just for my curiousity, the K3 Utility screen says:
 
 Installed in K3   Available
 
 MCU 01.48  01.48
 DSP1 01.45  01.45
 DSP2 N/A01.36
 (DVR)(N/A) (Missing)
 
 (  ) above is light gray...i.e. not active
 
 What is DSP2 above and why is it Available but N/A?
 
73,  Bill  W4ZV
 
 
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AW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

2007-12-12 Thread Bill Tippett

DSP2 is for the 2nd Receiver


   If that is true for the unavailable KRX3, why not treat it identical 
to DVR which is also unavailable?  Seems confusing to display unavailable 
options in two different ways.


   73,  Bill  W4ZV



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[Elecraft] K2 parts question

2007-12-12 Thread Mike, W9QS
Hello to the group.

This is my first post.  I'm assembling a K2 serial
number 6327.  All is well and I'm working on section 3
of the RF board.  I have a question about Q6.  The
parts list as a number of C2166 but mine is a C5739P. 
Is this a direct replacement or do I have the wrong
part.  

This is the first problem I've encountered and this
kit is the best by far I've ever built.  (I go back to
the '50s first kit was a Heatkit AT-1)



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[Elecraft] K2 Scan rate.

2007-12-12 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Please could somebody tell me if:

1) It is possible to slow down the scan rate of the K2 by a hardware 
modification which would not affect 'normal' tuning when using either VFO 
'A' or 'B' and without having to reduce the width of the band being scanned?


2) Is there a S / S+N threshold below which scanning will not stop? If there 
is, can the threshold be changed by some hardware modification?


Have a nasty feeling that this is all done by firmware.

Thanks in advance.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 


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[Elecraft] K3

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Jeanne Robertson
Well after all the information on this thred and being an owner I finally 
ordered my K3-100.
Looking forward to using it in 08

73
Dave KD1NA
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[Elecraft] KPA100 Temp/Fan

2007-12-12 Thread Jim Stoneback
I searched the archives and didn't find anything on this, but from what I've 
read, I think I may have a problem with my KPA100.  When operating CW the 
fan turns on high during every transmission and the heat sink gets hot to 
the touch.  I'm a ragchewer so my transmissions do run to several minutes 
and, regardless of power setting, the fan will kick on high after several 
minutes of transmitting.  Fan is set to 'nor'.  Sending speed ranges from 
15-20 wpm.  Ambient temperature in the shack is around 74F.  The fan has 
never kicked up to high when on SSB but I don't operate fone much, and 
generally don't talk for very long when I do.  The K2/100 (recent build, sn 
6194, KPA100 Version F1.10) operates well in all other respects.  Does 
anyone have an idea what may be wrong?


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Temp/Fan

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Moore
 When operating CW the
 fan turns on high during every transmission and the heat sink gets hot to
 the touch.  I'm a ragchewer so my transmissions do run to several minutes
 and, regardless of power setting, the fan will kick on high after several
 minutes of transmitting.
...
 Does anyone have an idea what may be wrong?

I think this is normal.  I had the same experience and asked about it
and in the end realized that's how it behaves.  It's the primary
reason I went back to the QRP cover.  Fan is just too noisy and comes
on too often.  It also failed to turn off by itself after going back
into RX mode -- it took a deliberate keying event to, apparently,
force the firmware to re-evaluate the temp and disable the fan (which
of course causes a transmission and confuses the op on the other
end!).  Where or not that part was normal I don't know, but it's the
way mine behaved (on two different KPA100's).  I don't know which
firmware it had so don't know if that's been addressed in a newer
version.

If I remember correctly, the amp is most efficient at about 75 watts,
so operating there might help cut down the heat and delay the fan
turn-on.

You might also look into other cooling methods -- larger, slower fan;
remote fan with custom duct work; active cooling; etc.

--Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 parts question

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Go ahead and use the 2SC5739 at Q6.  This is a replacement for the 2SC2166.
The changes to RoHS compliant devices can be blamed for the confusion.

73,
Don W3FPR

Mike, W9QS wrote:

Hello to the group.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

This is my first post.  I'm assembling a K2 serial
number 6327.  All is well and I'm working on section 3
of the RF board.  I have a question about Q6.  The
parts list as a number of C2166 but mine is a C5739P. 
Is this a direct replacement or do I have the wrong
part.  


This is the first problem I've encountered and this
kit is the best by far I've ever built.  (I go back to
the '50s first kit was a Heatkit AT-1)



Mike, W9QS

  

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

2007-12-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The K3's rear-panel RS-232 connector is female. A M-F serial cable works
fine to extend a USB to Serial adapter.

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Reiser
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:13 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter

Hi Dick,

I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. 
However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 
connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that 
it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable.

I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to 
determine.

I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.

John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'John Reiser' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port 
adapter


I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a
 serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together.  You
 may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of 
 the
 K3 as both connectors have nuts.

 You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it 
 at
 the same time you order your next K3 option...

 73 de Dick, K6KR


 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 parts question

2007-12-12 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Mike, W9QS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...

This is my first post.  I'm assembling a K2 serial
number 6327.  All is well and I'm working on section 3
of the RF board.  I have a question about Q6.  The
parts list as a number of C2166 but mine is a C5739P.
Is this a direct replacement or do I have the wrong
part.


Yes, Mike, this same question was asked a few months ago and it seems 
that the 2SC5739 is now being supplied in place of the original 2SC2166 
for Q6. It is evidently an improved version. You definitely have the 
right part.  Good luck with the rest of the K2. It'll soon be on the 
air.



This is the first problem I've encountered and this
kit is the best by far I've ever built.  (I go back to
the '50s first kit was a Heatkit AT-1)


Like many of us on here, Mike. You have evidently caught the Elecraft 
bug and there'll be no stopping you with other mojo kits from Elecraft.


73
--
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] K2 parts

2007-12-12 Thread Mike, W9QS
Thanks to all that responded.  I'll use the part.  Don
said it was because of ROHS problems.  We have the
same trouble here at work.  Also thru' parts are
getting very scarce.

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Temp/Fan

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jim,

The fan does go on and off by sensing the temperature of the heat sink 
(Q3 is the sensing element).
The temperature that the fan transition occurs is fixed, but will 
operate at that fixed temperature only if CAL TPA is set correctly.  CAL 
TPA must be set to the actual temperature of the heat sink, and that is 
easily done by allowing the KPA100 to cool (an hour or more) to the 
ambient temperature and setting the parameter to match the ambient 
temperature (in degrees C).


If you think the fan is coming on too soon, you might try running the 
fan at the Hi/Lo setting rather than normal - the fan is not very noisy 
at low speed.  Another solution is to add a muffin fan on top of the 
heat sink to draw air away from it - the means of keeping the fan in 
place can vary - if the KPA100 is not tilted, it will likely just sit 
there unaided, but if tilted, some fastening device may be required.  
You can see Tom Hammond's implementation at www.n0ss.net.  The speed of 
an external 12 volt DC fan (salvaged from a defunct PC) can be slowed by 
inserting a series resistor.


73,
Don W3FPR

Jim Stoneback wrote:
I searched the archives and didn't find anything on this, but from 
what I've read, I think I may have a problem with my KPA100.  When 
operating CW the fan turns on high during every transmission and the 
heat sink gets hot to the touch.  I'm a ragchewer so my transmissions 
do run to several minutes and, regardless of power setting, the fan 
will kick on high after several minutes of transmitting.  Fan is set 
to 'nor'.  Sending speed ranges from 15-20 wpm.  Ambient temperature 
in the shack is around 74F.  The fan has never kicked up to high when 
on SSB but I don't operate fone much, and generally don't talk for 
very long when I do.  The K2/100 (recent build, sn 6194, KPA100 
Version F1.10) operates well in all other respects.  Does anyone have 
an idea what may be wrong?


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FW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

2007-12-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Available means that there is a corresponding file (hauxsomething)
available in your firmware folder.  I made some attempt in the Help section
on the Firmware topic to describe what the columns (and DSP2) mean.  I know
nobody reads help (I rarely do), but I did make an attempt in the Help file
to describe each page.

The K3 Utility is used by Elecraft firmware development, production, and
testers.  That's good, because it gets pounded heavily by a demanding
audience.  Every K3 that leaves Aptos is pre-loaded with firmware using this
utility.  

I have to enable certain utility features before the corresponding hardware
is generally available so that the firmware developers can use the utility
for their daily work.  They have other ways of loading firmware, but have
found some of the features of the K3 Utility a convenient timesaver.  The
command macros get a lot of use.

We could have opted for different utility software for internal use versus
customer use.  But we thought it better to have one development path, and in
some support cases it's convenient to have a fully capable utility
installed.  One product, with the same capability everywhere, satisfies that
need. And there aren't very many of us doing this software development
effort.  

73 de Dick, K6KR

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:39 AM
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Subject: AW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

DSP2 is for the 2nd Receiver

If that is true for the unavailable KRX3, why not treat it identical

to DVR which is also unavailable?  Seems confusing to display unavailable 
options in two different ways.


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[Elecraft] KX1 : low power

2007-12-12 Thread luc Favre
Hi all,
I got a problem building my KX1: receive is OK, but transmit power is far
too low (40 m  2W, 20 m  0,5 W with 13,5 V).
Of course, I checked and double checked solders, solder bridges, components
and values. BPF and LPF are OK as measured with RF generator and
oscilloscope. Output waveform good. Frequency right.
Transmit voltages are all OK, but Q7's transmit base voltage is minus 1,1 V
(minus) instead of  the requested  plus 0,7 V. Resistances and other
components Q7 circuit are OK? 6V_2T is + 5,5 V.  Q7 replaced Q7 without.
Any idea will be welcome !
73
Luc/HB9ABB/F6HJO


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 Temp/Fan

2007-12-12 Thread Jay Schwisow

Jim,

I run alot of CW contests and with constant CQing/exchanges you could 
fry an egg on the heatsink.  The existing cooling cannot keep up with 
the heat generated.   It looks a bit Frankenstein but I mounted (with 
double back tape) a 12 volt 2.5 muffin fan on top of the heat sink.  It 
runs cool as a cucumber now.  This is now standard operating procedure  
for contests I run at 100w.


Jay - KT5E

Jim Stoneback wrote:
I searched the archives and didn't find anything on this, but from 
what I've read, I think I may have a problem with my KPA100.  When 
operating CW the fan turns on high during every transmission and the 
heat sink gets hot to the touch.  I'm a ragchewer so my transmissions 
do run to several minutes and, regardless of power setting, the fan 
will kick on high after several minutes of transmitting.  Fan is set 
to 'nor'.  Sending speed ranges from 15-20 wpm.  Ambient temperature 
in the shack is around 74F.  The fan has never kicked up to high when 
on SSB but I don't operate fone much, and generally don't talk for 
very long when I do.  The K2/100 (recent build, sn 6194, KPA100 
Version F1.10) operates well in all other respects.  Does anyone have 
an idea what may be wrong?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty

2007-12-12 Thread Larry Putman
Maybe Thom will be happy now and craw back into a Crab Trap!
 
Larry Putman 


- Original Message 
From: Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:24:07 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty


This is a stand up company and these are two stand
up guys. I expected no less - but quite elated to read
it in print. 


[Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com 
Tue Dec 11 20:34:57 EST 2007 

Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty 
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We will warranty the K3 for its normal period,
regardless of the owner. :-)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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[Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty

2007-12-12 Thread Don Rasmussen
I assume this is a reference to Thom's humorous post
some time back about K3 deliveries and the analogy to
crab fishing. ;-)

I am still waiting for my crab to come in and I think
Thom is actually ahead of me in line. ;-)

Don

[Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
Larry Putman larry_putman at yahoo.com 
Wed Dec 12 12:02:30 EST 2007 

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Maybe Thom will be happy now and craw back into a Crab
Trap!
 
Larry Putman 


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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:24:07 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty


This is a stand up company and these are two stand
up guys. I expected no less - but quite elated to read
it in print. 


[Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com 
Tue Dec 11 20:34:57 EST 2007 

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[Elecraft] Cooling fan suggestion

2007-12-12 Thread Ken Kopp
I have both 2 and 4 muffin fans mounted on rubber pipe 
caps and they don't slide, plus the soft rubber absorbs

the sound of the fans a bit.

The rubber pipe caps are sold to cap the end of pipes and
are normally held on the pipe with a hose clamp.  Not all 
shops will stock the caps, but a plumbing supply house 
will have them.


Cut a suitable hole in the surface of the cap with scissors
and mount the fan with screws, lockwashers and nuts, just
as you would on a metal surface.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 : low power

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Luc,

Before offering any specifics, can you make some RF Voltage measurements 
during a TUNE operation please?  With that information, the problem can 
be isolated to one stage.

Measure the following points for both 40 meters and 20 meters:
Q1 gate
Q1 Source
Q4 base
Q5 base
Q5 collector
Q6 base
Q6 collector

Please also tell us whether the voltages are peak to peak, zero to peak 
or RMS values.


73,
Don W3FPR

luc Favre wrote:

Hi all,
I got a problem building my KX1: receive is OK, but transmit power is far
too low (40 m  2W, 20 m  0,5 W with 13,5 V).
Of course, I checked and double checked solders, solder bridges, components
and values. BPF and LPF are OK as measured with RF generator and
oscilloscope. Output waveform good. Frequency right.
Transmit voltages are all OK, but Q7's transmit base voltage is minus 1,1 V
(minus) instead of  the requested  plus 0,7 V. Resistances and other
components Q7 circuit are OK? 6V_2T is + 5,5 V.  Q7 replaced Q7 without.
Any idea will be welcome !
73
Luc/HB9ABB/F6HJO

  

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[Elecraft] New K3 f/w: MCU 1.48, DSP 1.45 and new Downloader version available

2007-12-12 Thread Dave G4AON
Except for those CW ops who leave their K3 on a spot frequency and use 
the NR to reduce the background hiss level a bit... Again a feature has 
been removed on an upgrade (NR no longer works for bandwidths below 
500 Hz). I've gone back to MCU ver 1.45 and DSP 1.43.


Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
===

NR continues to evolve.

SNIP

Lyle kK7P
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RE: [Elecraft] WTB: K2

2007-12-12 Thread Kyle Chavis
Many thanks to everyone who responded and sorry for late reply. I've found a
K2 that I hope to have when the K3 arrives.
73,
Kyle

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Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: K2

Looking for a fully loaded K2, do you have one setting on the desk not being
used now that your K3 is here. Please let me know condition and price. I can
pay cash, check, or paypal.
Thanks,
Kyle

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 f/w: MCU 1.48, DSP 1.45 and new Downloader version available

2007-12-12 Thread Vic K2VCO

Dave G4AON wrote:
Except for those CW ops who leave their K3 on a spot frequency and use 
the NR to reduce the background hiss level a bit... Again a feature has 
been removed on an upgrade (NR no longer works for bandwidths below 
500 Hz). I've gone back to MCU ver 1.45 and DSP 1.43.


This is not in general a good idea, because each release contains bug 
fixes as well as new features. The 500 Hz restriction is temporary.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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K3 no. 7
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[Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Paul Ferguson
I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver 
option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in 
split operations. 

For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to 
the second receiver?

73,
Paul
K5ESW 
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[Elecraft] Softrock Pandapter for K3

2007-12-12 Thread K4IA
I see a note on the K3 specs about using a  Softrock radio to create a 
pandapter for the K3.

Has anyone done anything  on this?  

Craig Buck
k4ia
Fredericksburg, Virginia USA  




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[Elecraft] Shipping status page has been updated

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Penkas

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[Elecraft] FS K2 QRP lid with speaker and KAT2 installed

2007-12-12 Thread dolfindon
Hi
 
I have an extra QRP lid for a K2 with a wired speaker and assembled KAT2 20 
watt antenna tuner installed. This is new never used, built for sale.
 
$160 plus shipping.
 
 
Thanks
 
Don Brown
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 : low power

2007-12-12 Thread luc Favre
Don,

Thanks for your quick reply. Following values are Vrms made with Elecraft RF
Probe and DDM.
(7 MHz value/14 MHz value)
Q1 gate : 0.17 / 0.16
Q1 Source : 0.11 / 0.18
Q4 base : 0.10 / 0.18
Q5 base : 0.9 / 1.1
Q5 collector : 4.7 / 6.0
Q6 base : 1.3 / 1.2
 Q6 collector : 8.9 / 10.7

I suppose these values are quite consistent.
Q5 collector values and Q6 base values seem to have the same relation
betwenn them as the impedances (1:3). Am I right ?

Thanks for your help.
73
Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Bill W5WVO
If I understand what I think you are saying... The 2nd receiver is completely 
independent and doesn't use the filters (or anything else) in the primary 
receiver. Each receiver has its own dedicated roofing filters (up to five). 
You populate the filters in the 2nd receiver according to how you plan to use 
it (just as you do for the primary receiver). Like the primary receiver, the 
2nd receiver will come equipped by default with the 2.7 kHz 5-pole roofing 
filter, and you can replace this filter with another and/or add additional 
filters.


Bill W5WVO


Paul Ferguson wrote:

I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
split operations.

For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
the second receiver?

73,
Paul
K5ESW
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[Elecraft] Fixing partially deaf K2.

2007-12-12 Thread Kevin Cozens

Greetings.

A couple of years ago, while working a contest, I realized my K2 seemed a
little deaf. I run the radio using its internal batteries. I was calling CQ
and got no response. To save batteries on the K2, I turned it off and turned
on my Grundig Satellite 800 shortwave located near by. Using the Grundig, I
was surprised to hear a station calling me. Switch back to the K2 I found I
couldn't hear the station I heard on the Grundig. The Grundig was using only a
built-in whip antenna and the K2 was connected to a Superantennas MP-1 antenna 
located just a few feet away.


I acquired this radio from the original builder 6 months after it was 
assembled. I may not have built this unit but I have spent a lot of time going 
through its guts and applying mods. I have applied all but the last two of the 
la3za listed mods to bring my K2 #2172 in line with the 3000+ K2's. The mods 
include the A/B kit update, and the PLL stability mod.


I have downloaded updated versions of some of the pages I had printed out 
previously. Namely, the LA3ZA page with mod info for the K2, the Spectogram 
alignment procedure. I also downloaded the latest copy of the Rev. G manual 
(to compare against my Rev. C), and the one for the KSB2. I have temporarily 
removed the KSB2 from my unit until I feel the base unit is working as 
expected. I also have a printout of Gary's message fom 2000 titled K2: 25 
reasons for low RX sensitivity or low audio.


My sudden push to try and identify, and hopefully fix, problems with my K2 is 
due to my having temporary use of a 20MHz handheld oscilloscope. The scope is 
on loan from a client while I'm working on a project. I won't be able to hang 
on to the scope much longer. I've been going back over messages I kept when I 
was originally on this list back in 2002, plus some more recent messages.


I find I am usually running the K2 with the pre-amp on. When listening to a 
station on the K2 I have the volume control set to around the 9 or 10 o'clock 
position so I don't feel there is a problem with the audio amp.


My 8V regulator measures 8.45V on its output. I replaced R1 on the control 
board with a 5k8 resistor in series with a 20k multi-turn trim-pot. I have 
tried AGC voltages from about 3.6 up to 4.1 and still have a noticeable 
difference in noise level when turning the AGC on and off. I curently have the 
AGC voltage set to 4.1V.


A message I had kept from 2002 said to check for between 2.2 and 2.4V on TP1 
on 160. I went to 80m (my lowest band) and measured about 2.2V. I removed T5 
from the board as I didn't like the spacing of the turns around it. I 
discovered two turns of the secondary were side by side. I removed the 
secondary, adjusted the spacing of the primary to be more even, and rewound 
the secondary (positioning it so its first turn was between turns 6 and 7 of 
the primary instead of between 7 and 8). After re-installing T5, I had 2.5V at 
TP1.


After having altered T5 I went back and check the VCO control voltage at the 
left-side of R30 and read only 5.26V (at 4MHz). I adjusted L30 until I read 6V 
and verified all the other VCO control voltages are within range. The lowest 
reading is 1.99V and highest is 6V.


The last time I adjusted the bandpass filters I used the updated information 
that says to use a max. transmit power of 1W. I haven't re-checked these 
filters but they should be ok. The simple N0SS signal tracing method on 40m 
didn't show much of a problem when I used myself as an antenna while holding 
on to one lead of a 22 nF cap.


My main issues at the moment are:
1. What voltage should I be getting at TP1 when tuned to 80m?
2. What other things should I be checking in the AGC circuit that could 
account for hearing a change in signal between AGC on/off regardless of how I 
set the trim-pot adjustment?
3. Are there some key RF voltage readings I should take to verify all is well 
while I still have access to a scope?


--
Cheers!

Kevin.

http://www.ve3syb.ca/   |What are we going to do today, Borg?
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RE: [Elecraft] KPA100 Temp/Fan

2007-12-12 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Have you calibrated the KPA100 temperature sensor and set the quiescent
bias? 

The KPA100 has a self-protection circuit in it that reduces power and
displays the message PA HOT if the heat sink temperature exceeds 85C
(185F).

I'm not sure it's possible to get the heat sink that hot in normal use, even
the most long winded rag chews G. 

A few years ago I was part of a group testing the stability of the K2/100
over a wide range of operating temperatures. The test protocols included
loading a message buffer with CW, then sending nonstop for between 30 and 60
minutes at 100 watts output.

Under those conditions, in a shack with an ambient temperature of 24C (75F)
the temperature of the cooling fins on the heat sink would approach 50C
(122F). The K2 cooling fan was operating normally automatically switching to
high above 37C (100F). No other cooling was provided. 

The tests were done dozens of times with no adverse effects on the rig. 

Eventually the heat sink temperature reaches equilibrium. The greater the
difference between its temperature and the ambient air temperature, the
faster it loses heat. When the loss of heat equals the heat being
contributed by the amplifier circuits, the temperature no longer rises. 

The testing did not try to find this equilibrium. We were testing the
effects on the heat on internal oscillators, not testing the KPA100 itself.
My notes do indicate that the rise beyond 50C was very, very slow, however.
That's why the tests stopped there. The rig was no longer heating
appreciably. 

I mention the quiescent bias because the current the PA transistors are
drawing key up also contributes heat. If it's high, that could lead to
significant additional heating. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Jim,

I run alot of CW contests and with constant CQing/exchanges you could 
fry an egg on the heatsink.  The existing cooling cannot keep up with 
the heat generated.   It looks a bit Frankenstein but I mounted (with 
double back tape) a 12 volt 2.5 muffin fan on top of the heat sink.  It 
runs cool as a cucumber now.  This is now standard operating procedure  
for contests I run at 100w.

Jay - KT5E

Jim Stoneback wrote:
 I searched the archives and didn't find anything on this, but from
 what I've read, I think I may have a problem with my KPA100.  When 
 operating CW the fan turns on high during every transmission and the 
 heat sink gets hot to the touch.  I'm a ragchewer so my transmissions 
 do run to several minutes and, regardless of power setting, the fan 
 will kick on high after several minutes of transmitting.  Fan is set 
 to 'nor'.  Sending speed ranges from 15-20 wpm.  Ambient temperature 
 in the shack is around 74F.  The fan has never kicked up to high when 
 on SSB but I don't operate fone much, and generally don't talk for 
 very long when I do.  The K2/100 (recent build, sn 6194, KPA100 
 Version F1.10) operates well in all other respects.  Does anyone have 
 an idea what may be wrong?

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[Elecraft] Shipping status page has been updated

2007-12-12 Thread Don Rasmussen
New K3 orders received after Dec. 10th are targeted
March delivery. 

Alrighty then, if you were wanting to believe that
what has been a 6 month wait up until now will turn
into a 3 month wait for orders placed today - I guess
this news is good for you! ;-)

For someone that expected his May 11 order in August,
November, and December - it means standby while we get
the rest of the May 4 kits out, then we're gonna
make some built units, then we'll get right back to
you. My guess about 7 months of wait total.

No whining, complaining, or unhappiness here - just
the facts m'aam!

(notice - a recycled apostrophe from the Apostrophe
Bank is contained in an informal contraction within
this message.)
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Re: [Elecraft] Fixing partially deaf K2.

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Kevin,

May I suggest that you build the test oscillator shown in the 
Troubleshooting appendix of the K2 manual, and use that oscillator to 
perform the Receiver Signal Tracing steps.  That should reveal the 
failing stage for you.


Once you know which stage is failing, the final solution is usually 
quite easy.  Right now, the problem can be anywhere between the antenna 
and the speaker.


I can't tell much about your AGC threshold, but certainly 4.1 volts is 
too high - set it no higher than 3.8 volts.


73,
Don W3FPR

Kevin Cozens wrote:

Greetings.

A couple of years ago, while working a contest, I realized my K2 seemed a
little deaf. I run the radio using its internal batteries. I was 
calling CQ
and got no response. To save batteries on the K2, I turned it off and 
turned
on my Grundig Satellite 800 shortwave located near by. Using the 
Grundig, I
was surprised to hear a station calling me. Switch back to the K2 I 
found I
couldn't hear the station I heard on the Grundig. The Grundig was 
using only a
built-in whip antenna and the K2 was connected to a Superantennas MP-1 
antenna located just a few feet away.


I acquired this radio from the original builder 6 months after it was 
assembled. I may not have built this unit but I have spent a lot of 
time going through its guts and applying mods. I have applied all but 
the last two of the la3za listed mods to bring my K2 #2172 in line 
with the 3000+ K2's. The mods include the A/B kit update, and the PLL 
stability mod.


I have downloaded updated versions of some of the pages I had printed 
out previously. Namely, the LA3ZA page with mod info for the K2, the 
Spectogram alignment procedure. I also downloaded the latest copy of 
the Rev. G manual (to compare against my Rev. C), and the one for the 
KSB2. I have temporarily removed the KSB2 from my unit until I feel 
the base unit is working as expected. I also have a printout of Gary's 
message fom 2000 titled K2: 25 reasons for low RX sensitivity or low 
audio.


My sudden push to try and identify, and hopefully fix, problems with 
my K2 is due to my having temporary use of a 20MHz handheld 
oscilloscope. The scope is on loan from a client while I'm working on 
a project. I won't be able to hang on to the scope much longer. I've 
been going back over messages I kept when I was originally on this 
list back in 2002, plus some more recent messages.


I find I am usually running the K2 with the pre-amp on. When listening 
to a station on the K2 I have the volume control set to around the 9 
or 10 o'clock position so I don't feel there is a problem with the 
audio amp.


My 8V regulator measures 8.45V on its output. I replaced R1 on the 
control board with a 5k8 resistor in series with a 20k multi-turn 
trim-pot. I have tried AGC voltages from about 3.6 up to 4.1 and still 
have a noticeable difference in noise level when turning the AGC on 
and off. I curently have the AGC voltage set to 4.1V.


A message I had kept from 2002 said to check for between 2.2 and 2.4V 
on TP1 on 160. I went to 80m (my lowest band) and measured about 2.2V. 
I removed T5 from the board as I didn't like the spacing of the turns 
around it. I discovered two turns of the secondary were side by side. 
I removed the secondary, adjusted the spacing of the primary to be 
more even, and rewound the secondary (positioning it so its first turn 
was between turns 6 and 7 of the primary instead of between 7 and 8). 
After re-installing T5, I had 2.5V at TP1.


After having altered T5 I went back and check the VCO control voltage 
at the left-side of R30 and read only 5.26V (at 4MHz). I adjusted L30 
until I read 6V and verified all the other VCO control voltages are 
within range. The lowest reading is 1.99V and highest is 6V.


The last time I adjusted the bandpass filters I used the updated 
information that says to use a max. transmit power of 1W. I haven't 
re-checked these filters but they should be ok. The simple N0SS signal 
tracing method on 40m didn't show much of a problem when I used myself 
as an antenna while holding on to one lead of a 22 nF cap.


My main issues at the moment are:
1. What voltage should I be getting at TP1 when tuned to 80m?
2. What other things should I be checking in the AGC circuit that 
could account for hearing a change in signal between AGC on/off 
regardless of how I set the trim-pot adjustment?
3. Are there some key RF voltage readings I should take to verify all 
is well while I still have access to a scope?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
Yes.

You will want some type of ssb and cw filter IMHO.


On 12/12/07 1:19 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
 option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
 split operations.
 
 For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
 the second receiver?
 
 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW 
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[Elecraft] k2-6321 alignment test Part II

2007-12-12 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
PLL  Referance Oscillator Range test page 63 G Manual
Hi freq=12098.28
Lo freq=12083.48
range=14.76
 Range must be between 9.8 and 15Khz
-
VCO
CAL FCTR  Test TP1 should see reading between 8 and 10 MHZ
actual reading is 18, 493.77 MHZ
I think this is a little high

VCO voltage does not adjust
DMM flickers at 0.017 / 0.18 vdc
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.

I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.

I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?

The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.

Mike W0MU  


On 12/12/07 2:05 PM, Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I understand what I think you are saying... The 2nd receiver is completely
 independent and doesn't use the filters (or anything else) in the primary
 receiver. Each receiver has its own dedicated roofing filters (up to five).
 You populate the filters in the 2nd receiver according to how you plan to use
 it (just as you do for the primary receiver). Like the primary receiver, the
 2nd receiver will come equipped by default with the 2.7 kHz 5-pole roofing
 filter, and you can replace this filter with another and/or add additional
 filters.
 
 Bill W5WVO
 
 
 Paul Ferguson wrote:
 I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
 option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
 split operations.
 
 For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
 the second receiver?
 
 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW
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[Elecraft] Re: k2-6321 alignment test Part II

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

RC,

The PLL is just fine, but the VCO is not on the proper frequency - and 
that fact is why the voltage at R30 does not adjust - it is simply too 
far out of the expected frequency range.


It sounds like C71 is not actually connected in the circuit.  Check the 
soldering, particularly in the VFO Range Selection area.  Look at the 
schematic (RF Board sheet 1) to identify the components connected to 
relays K13, K14 and K15.  Be certain those relays and varactors are 
oriented correctly.


73,
Don W3FPR

Robert 'RC' Conley wrote:

PLL  Referance Oscillator Range test page 63 G Manual
Hi freq=12098.28
Lo freq=12083.48
range=14.76
 Range must be between 9.8 and 15Khz
-
VCO
CAL FCTR  Test TP1 should see reading between 8 and 10 MHZ
actual reading is 18, 493.77 MHZ
I think this is a little high

VCO voltage does not adjust
DMM flickers at 0.017 / 0.18 vdc


  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

To transmit FM you will need the FM filter in the main receiver (it will 
also be used for transmit).
I would suggest that you re-examine your filters in the main receiver.  
If you will not operate digital modes, you can likely do without the 200 
Hz filter.  If the 200 Hz filter must stay, then I would suggest you 
eliminate the 1000 Hz filter unless you are a CW contest type that likes 
to listen with a wide receiver - during normal operating, your 1.8 kHz 
filter in conjunction with the DSP filtering should work just fine.  
OTOH, if you do not operate a lot of sideband contests, the 1.8 kHz 
filte could go and the 1000 Hz can stay.


These are only my suggestions, choose your filters to match your 
operating preferences.  The DSP will handle reduced bandwidths just fine 
until an offending S-9 +30 signal appears within the roofing filter 
bandpass.   That will likely only occur during contests or other times 
of intense operating activities.  With the 2nd receiver, one could 
always put the in-between filter widths there and switch to receiving 
with the 2nd receiver when the additional filtering is needed.  In other 
words, the FM filter, the 2.7kHz, the 1000 Hz, 400 Hz and 200 Hz in the 
main receiver and 2.7kHz, 1.8 kHz, 1000, and either 400 or 200 in the 
2nd receiver - or something like those combinations, it is all up to you.


73,
Don W3FPR

Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:

I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.

I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.

I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?

The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.
  


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[Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?

2007-12-12 Thread K8TB
Has anyone, who has possession of a K3, ordered and received a Pelican 
case? I would like to ask what size you went with, and what style.


   I am in a quandary. K8AJ wants to buy me a Pelican case for my 
(our?) K3. So she came right out and asked me what model to buy, and I 
just don't know! She will not let the K3 ride in the back seat in a 
cardboard box. I'm not sure if I need room for a key/headphones,power 
supply etc in the Pelican case,  as those can also easily be carried in 
a soft tool bag.


   Anyone been there yet?

   Tom Bosscher K8TB

   K3 FB53


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 : low power

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Luc,

Those RF voltages look normal until one reaches the Q5 collector.   
Changing R11 to 4.7 ohms (as in the power mod) will likely help, and you 
can increase R30 to 33 ohms (the remainder of the power mod) if changing 
R11 does not help enough.


I am concerned because you indicated only 0.2 watts output on 20 meters 
- with 10.7 volts on the collector of Q6 you should have more output 
than 0.2 watts unless you also have a problem in the low pass filter 
area - check the number of turns on the toroids and check the values of 
C46, C47 and C54.  Too many toroid turns can reduce the cutoff frequency 
of the 20 meter lowpass filter down into the 20 meter band and absorb a 
lot of the signal.  When counting toroid turns, count each pass of the 
wire through the center of the core as 1 turn.


73,
Don W3FPR

luc Favre wrote:

Don,

Thanks for your quick reply. Following values are Vrms made with Elecraft RF
Probe and DDM.
(7 MHz value/14 MHz value)
Q1 gate : 0.17 / 0.16
Q1 Source : 0.11 / 0.18
Q4 base : 0.10 / 0.18
Q5 base : 0.9 / 1.1
Q5 collector : 4.7 / 6.0
Q6 base : 1.3 / 1.2
 Q6 collector : 8.9 / 10.7

I suppose these values are quite consistent.
Q5 collector values and Q6 base values seem to have the same relation
betwenn them as the impedances (1:3). Am I right ?

Thanks for your help.
73
Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB




  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I was afraid of that

I want the rig to do it all HI!

I can probably do without the FM in this rig then.

I am into RTYY, PSK, CW and SSB contesting.  Ok I have no life.

Thanks for the insight.

Mike


On 12/12/07 4:26 PM, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike,
 
 To transmit FM you will need the FM filter in the main receiver (it will
 also be used for transmit).
 I would suggest that you re-examine your filters in the main receiver.
 If you will not operate digital modes, you can likely do without the 200
 Hz filter.  If the 200 Hz filter must stay, then I would suggest you
 eliminate the 1000 Hz filter unless you are a CW contest type that likes
 to listen with a wide receiver - during normal operating, your 1.8 kHz
 filter in conjunction with the DSP filtering should work just fine.
 OTOH, if you do not operate a lot of sideband contests, the 1.8 kHz
 filte could go and the 1000 Hz can stay.
 
 These are only my suggestions, choose your filters to match your
 operating preferences.  The DSP will handle reduced bandwidths just fine
 until an offending S-9 +30 signal appears within the roofing filter
 bandpass.   That will likely only occur during contests or other times
 of intense operating activities.  With the 2nd receiver, one could
 always put the in-between filter widths there and switch to receiving
 with the 2nd receiver when the additional filtering is needed.  In other
 words, the FM filter, the 2.7kHz, the 1000 Hz, 400 Hz and 200 Hz in the
 main receiver and 2.7kHz, 1.8 kHz, 1000, and either 400 or 200 in the
 2nd receiver - or something like those combinations, it is all up to you.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.
 
 I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.
 
 I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
 the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?
 
 The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.
   
 


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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Dec 13 2007 - Jan 13 2008

2007-12-12 Thread Ken Newman

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
December 13, 2007 - Jan 13, 2008
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Each Tuesday to Mar 25 
9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA

Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Each Thursday to March 27
9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
MDXA PSK-31/63 DeathMatch  ... QRP Category
Dec 15, z to Dec 16, 2400z
Rules: http://www.mdxa1.org/deathmatch.html
~
Croatian CW Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Dec 15, 1400z to Dec 16, 1400z
Rules: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/9acwc.htm
~
QRP ARCI:
Holiday Spirits Homebrew Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Dec 16, 2000z to 2359z  
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org

~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EST: Dec 16, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Dec 17, 0200z 0400z
Rules: http://www.gentzow.com/fpqrp/
~
SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Dec 23, z to z
Rules: 
http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/wknd-sprint-rules.html

~
RAC Canada Winter Contest (All) ... QRP Category
Dec 29, z to  2359z 
Rules: http://www.rac.ca/service/infocont.htm

~
Stew Perry (W1BB) 
Topband Distance Challenge (CW) ... QRP Category

Dec 29, 1500z to Dec 30, 1500z
Rules: http://web.jzap.com/k7rat/stew.html
~
Origional QRP Contest (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Dec 29, 1500z to Dec 30, 1500z
Rules: http://www.qrpcc.de:80/contestrules/index.html
~
MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest ***
Dec 29, 1800z to 2200z
Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html
~
Straight Key Night (CW) 
EST: Dec 31, 1900 to Jan 1, 1900
UTC: Jan 1, z to 2400z 
Info: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2008/skn.html

~
AGB NYSB -New Year SnowBall Contest (80M - All) ...QRP Category
Jan 1, z to 0100z 
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/eu1eu/agb_nysb.htm

~
AGCW Happy New Year Contest (CW)...QRP Category
Jan 1, 0900z to 1200z
Rules: http://www.agcw.org/agcw-con/2007/Englisch/happynew_e.htm
~
AGCW VHF/UHF CW Contest ... QRP Category
Jan 1, 1600z to 1900z (144 Mhz)
Jan 1, 1900z to 2100z (432 Mhz)
Rules: http://www.agcw.org/agcw-con/2007/Englisch/agcw-dl0_e.htm
~
ARRL RTTY Roundup ... = 150W Category
Jan 5, 1800z to Jan 6, 2400z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2008
~
EUCW 160 Meter Contest (CW) ... QRP Category
Jan 5, 2000z to 2300z and 
Jan 6, 0400z to 0700z

Rules: http://www.agcw.org/eucw/eu160.html
~
Adventure Radio Society - Spartan Sprint (CW) ... QRP Contest!
Jan 8, 0200z to 0400z (First Monday 9 PM EST)
Rules: http://www.arsqrp.com/
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Jan 9, z to 0200z
Rules: http://skccgroup.com/sprint/sprint-rules.htm
~
070 Club PSKFEST Contest  ... QRP Category
Jan 12, z to 2400z
Rules: http://www.podxs.com/html/pskfest.html
~
Michigan QRP Club Contest (CW) ... QRP Contest!
Jan 12, 1200z to Jan 13, 2359z 
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/miqrpclub/contest.html

~
North American QSO Party (CW) (100w max. QRP Entries Noted)
Jan 12, 1800z to Jan 13, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
SKCC Weekend Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Jan 13, z to z
Rules: 
http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/wknd-sprint-rules.html

~
DARC 10-Meter Contest (CW/SSB)... =100 W category
Jan 13, 0900Z to 1059Z
Rules: http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedczr.htm

Thanks to SM3CER, WA7BNM, N0AX(ARRL), N2APB, WB3AAL and others 
for assistance in compiling this calendar.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?

2007-12-12 Thread Andrew Faber

Tom,
 Without answering the question directly: I took my K3 to Aruba for CQWW 
wrapped in bubble wrap inside a small shipping box, inside a regular 
suitcase.  Steve, K6AW, took his to the Galapagos, also wrapped in bubble 
wrap, in a backpack as carry-on luggage.  Both seemed to survive fine.

 This was a heck of a lot easier than taking an FT1000D down to Aruba!
 73, Andy, ae6y
- Original Message - 
From: K8TB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:34 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?


Has anyone, who has possession of a K3, ordered and received a Pelican 
case? I would like to ask what size you went with, and what style.


   I am in a quandary. K8AJ wants to buy me a Pelican case for my (our?) 
K3. So she came right out and asked me what model to buy, and I just don't 
know! She will not let the K3 ride in the back seat in a cardboard box. 
I'm not sure if I need room for a key/headphones,power supply etc in the 
Pelican case,  as those can also easily be carried in a soft tool bag.


   Anyone been there yet?

   Tom Bosscher K8TB

   K3 FB53


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?

2007-12-12 Thread Ed K1EP

At 12/12/2007 07:04 PM, Andrew Faber wrote:

Tom,
 Without answering the question directly: I took my K3 to Aruba for 
CQWW wrapped in bubble wrap inside a small shipping box, inside a 
regular suitcase.  Steve, K6AW, took his to the Galapagos, also 
wrapped in bubble wrap, in a backpack as carry-on luggage.  Both 
seemed to survive fine.

 This was a heck of a lot easier than taking an FT1000D down to Aruba!


I took my K3 to Grenada for CQWW as carry on in a Zero-Halliburton 
case that I had picked up several years ago at a hamfest.  It held 
the radio, a switching power supply, cables and more.  It fit in the 
overhead compartment, as well as under the seat when necessary.   The 
case is 14 1/2 x 16 1/2 x 9 outside dimensions.  Coincidentally, I 
have another much smaller Z-H case for my KX1.  But I found that the 
KX1 was so small that it was better off just bubble wrapped in 
regular suitcase or carryon camera case when I travelled overseas with it.



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[Elecraft] Re: k2-6321 alignment test Part II

2007-12-12 Thread Robert 'RC' Conley
Don I didn't see it first. So took Sis to dinner had pizza and when I
cam back rechecked again. I found a pin on relay K14 that had a bad
solder joint. So re-flowed all of them in the area.
VCO Test now 8587.24 mhz
-
VCO alignment  voltage easily adjusted to 6.00vdc at 4.000 Mhz
3500 vdc is 24.99vdc
-
I'll continue along
As always thanks again thanks for you superb knowledge and assistance
RC kc5wa


On Dec 12, 2007 5:12 PM, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RC,

 The PLL is just fine, but the VCO is not on the proper frequency - and
 that fact is why the voltage at R30 does not adjust - it is simply too
 far out of the expected frequency range.

 It sounds like C71 is not actually connected in the circuit.  Check the
 soldering, particularly in the VFO Range Selection area.  Look at the
 schematic (RF Board sheet 1) to identify the components connected to
 relays K13, K14 and K15.  Be certain those relays and varactors are
 oriented correctly.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 Robert 'RC' Conley wrote:
  PLL  Referance Oscillator Range test page 63 G Manual
  Hi freq=12098.28
  Lo freq=12083.48
  range=14.76
   Range must be between 9.8 and 15Khz
  -
  VCO
  CAL FCTR  Test TP1 should see reading between 8 and 10 MHZ
  actual reading is 18, 493.77 MHZ
  I think this is a little high
  
  VCO voltage does not adjust
  DMM flickers at 0.017 / 0.18 vdc
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping status page has been updated

2007-12-12 Thread Rajiv Dewan, N2RD
Don't feel so bad Don.  I put down 50% on May 2 and I am yet to see the 
shipping invoice.  I am leaving next week for Xmas and probably will not 
see the rig until next year.


Raj, N2RD


Don Rasmussen wrote:

New K3 orders received after Dec. 10th are targeted
March delivery. 


Alrighty then, if you were wanting to believe that
what has been a 6 month wait up until now will turn
into a 3 month wait for orders placed today - I guess
this news is good for you! ;-)

For someone that expected his May 11 order in August,
November, and December - it means standby while we get
the rest of the May 4 kits out, then we're gonna
make some built units, then we'll get right back to
you. My guess about 7 months of wait total.

No whining, complaining, or unhappiness here - just
the facts m'aam!

(notice - a recycled apostrophe from the Apostrophe
Bank is contained in an informal contraction within
this message.)
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[Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop the comments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread Bill Johnson
I am not taking this out on anyone personally, as there have been so many
emails on this topic so let me speak my peace  Please, please keep
these off the reflector.  The explanations have been more than adequate.
If you have issue, either email or call Lisa, etc., or cancel your order.
ENOUGH ALREADY!


72,

Bill 

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  


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[Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop the comments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread Bill Johnson
Let me also add:

Replies to this message to the reflector are not wanted.  If you have issue
please email me direct off list!!!

Previous message:

I am not taking this out on anyone personally, as there have been so many
emails on this topic so let me speak my peace  Please, please keep
these off the reflector.  The explanations have been more than adequate.
If you have issue, either email or call Lisa, etc., or cancel your order.
ENOUGH ALREADY!


72,

Bill 

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.  


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RE: [Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop thecomments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread Jim
I totally agree.

We are all tired of hearing about personal shipping complaints and the
selfish motives of disgruntled hams who put themselves in front of the
remainder of the K3 buyers that are not complaining, and who are in the same
situation.

Please give the fine staff at Elecraft a break. They are providing a great
service to our Amateur Community..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 8:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY Please: Drop
thecomments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve

I am not taking this out on anyone personally, as there have been so many
emails on this topic so let me speak my peace  Please, please keep
these off the reflector.  The explanations have been more than adequate.
If you have issue, either email or call Lisa, etc., or cancel your order.
ENOUGH ALREADY!


72,

Bill

K9YEQ
K2 #35, K2 # 5279, KX1 #35, Mini Modules, etc.


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RE: [Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop thecomments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Jim wrote:


I totally agree.

We are all tired of hearing about personal shipping complaints and the
selfish motives of disgruntled hams who put themselves in front of the
remainder of the K3 buyers that are not complaining, and who are in the same
situation.


But I'm sure you don't mean those operators who paid a deposit to be in the 
first batch.



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[Elecraft] [KX1] Waterproof Carry Case

2007-12-12 Thread Mark J. Schreiner
I was at Walmart last night and browsing around, thinking of alternate 
(ham radio) uses for normal household items.  I was wandering down the 
housewares/kitchen aisles and I came across the Tupperware and related 
containers.  Actually, I was specifically looking for something to use 
as a project box for housing a matching network for an inverted-L, and I 
purchased a pretty cool item for that, similar to as described below, 
but a different size.   I am not sure that these are UV resistant, but 
for the price that is okay.


Thinking a bit more about it last night and today I figured that they 
also had another size that would be perfect for storing  
transporting/hiking with a KX1 (or other small portable rig, but 
obviously of interest to KX1 users on this list).  So I stopped again 
tonight and picked up the one I had in mind for the KX1.  With a bit of 
foam rubber as cushioning around it this should be perfect, well, maybe 
just slightly larger than ideal, but pretty close!  Actually, it would 
have room for extra batteries, pencil, log, paddles, wire for antenna, 
etc.  It is a 6.8 cup (8 x 5-1/2 x 2-1/4) clear plastic with a lid 
that locks down on all four sides and has a silicone gasket that 
provides for an airtight/watertight seal.  The brand name is Lock  Lock 
(www.LockAndLockUSA.com although I didn't see the exact model on their 
website) and for that size it was less than $3 (I thought it was about 
$5.50 but I just looked at the receipt and it was less than $3).  They 
sure are right that it is a Multi-Use Storage Container, with some 
suggestions such as Tools  Art Supplies, School Supplies, First Aid 
Items, Pet Supplies, Food, Dry Goods, etc.  However, the most applicable 
for KX1 (et al) uses as described are Sporting, Fishing  Camping or 
maybe Picnics at the Park, those activities sound close enough to hiking 
on the Appalachian Trail or wherever your favorite hiking location is.  
It is claimed to be Microwave Safe, so presumably it is safe for HF as 
well.  It has a Manufacturer's Lifetime Warranty.  As a Polar Bear I 
especially noted that it was Freezer Safe as well!  The plastic is 
fairly thick, quite sturdy, much better than Tupperware or other similar 
containers. 

Just another alternative to the Pelican Cases.  If somebody else has 
mentioned this item on the list in the past, sorry I missed it, but I 
wanted to make sure others knew about this.  Get them while you can!


73,

Mark, NK8Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop the comments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread hank k8dd

So I take it you want anything to do with the K3 off the reflector?
Or are you just picking on one subject?
Uu what can we talk about? 
Only K1, K2, KX1 problems, but not K3 problems (which would include 
shipping).

Please let us know so we know what to talk about don't offend you guys.

K8DD


Bill Johnson wrote:

I am not taking this out on anyone personally, as there have been so many
emails on this topic so let me speak my peace  Please, please keep
these off the reflector.  The explanations have been more than adequate.
If you have issue, either email or call Lisa, etc., or cancel your order.
ENOUGH ALREADY!


72,

Bill 


K9YEQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping status ...ENOUGH ALREADY!!!! Please: Drop the comments and go direct to Elecraft to resolve!!!!

2007-12-12 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, hank k8dd wrote:


So I take it you want anything to do with the K3 off the reflector?
Or are you just picking on one subject?
Uu what can we talk about? Only K1, K2, KX1 problems, but not K3 problems 
(which would include shipping).

Please let us know so we know what to talk about don't offend you guys.


Those that feel a need to communicate without wanna-be list censor comments and 
interference could always visit http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/


Is it possible that some keyboards have been shipped that do not have a delete 
key?



k3hrn
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?

2007-12-12 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hey Tom,

I bought this case:
http://www.boss-safety.com/shop/medium-cases-1510-series-c-532_480_499_506.h
tml?gclid=CO2Jy_G1pJACFQUsPAod7gO57w

for my K2 with the thought of using it for my K3. I bought an extra set of
foam inserts for that exact purpose. I bought the lid organizer in which I
was able to put all kinds of support stuff (i.e. connectors, wire, soldering
iron, meter etc.) and get my K2, W1, HexKey, SmartCharger, headphones etc. 

I'm pretty sure that it will house the K3 - but I may have to leave some of
the other things out to get it all in there. I will let you know when I get
my K3 (sometime after the first of the year).

Take care  73,
Dave W8FGU


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K8TB
 Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:34 PM
 To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?
 
 Has anyone, who has possession of a K3, ordered and received a Pelican
 case? I would like to ask what size you went with, and what style.
 
 I am in a quandary. K8AJ wants to buy me a Pelican case for my
 (our?) K3. So she came right out and asked me what model to buy, and I
 just don't know! She will not let the K3 ride in the back seat in a
 cardboard box. I'm not sure if I need room for a key/headphones,power
 supply etc in the Pelican case,  as those can also easily be carried in
 a soft tool bag.
 
 Anyone been there yet?
 
 Tom Bosscher K8TB
 
 K3 FB53
 
 
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[Elecraft] K1-4 -- No 30m band during initial tests

2007-12-12 Thread Mark Lampert (KB3OKS)
Hello all,

I'm now a bit further along with my K1-4 build, and I just installed
the VFO toroid (L1) on the RF board, fired the radio up and adjusted
the winds to match the desired range. Shortly after that I was
switching through the four bands as instructed, and I noticed that my
radio is showing the following four bands: 40m, 20m, 17m, 15m ... **no
30m, and both 17 and 15!** (specifically, it displayed 7 MHz, 14 MHz,
18 MHz, 21 MHz).

The first thing I did was re-check the crystals on my filter board
very carefully with the K1-4 filter board manual. All are correct, in
their correct respective spots, grounded, and I made the right crystal
selection for 80kHz tuning.

I then checked resistance again across the IC (U1). Everything looked
good, though a couple of values were just barely higher than their
recommended range:

UI pin 8, UI pin 9 == 450 ohms (should be 360 -- 440 ohms)
UI pin 9, UI pin 18 == 455 ohms (should be 360 -- 440 ohms)

1) Has anyone else experienced this problem of a missing 30m band
while having both 17 and 15m present?
2) Does any of the above described info on my filter board sound
suspect, or is there something else I should check?

Thanks for your help, and 73,

Mark (KB3OKS)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - SWR Fold-back

2007-12-12 Thread AJSOENKE
In a message dated 12/11/2007 11:40:11 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You don't suppose trying to  use an 80-meter dipole on 160 had anything to do 
with it, do  you?

K9ZTV



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't know if  this will help, but I've had two experiences with my K3 
regarding power  reduction. While attempting to participate in the 160M 
contest, I 
connected  to my 80M dipole and hit tune in the ATU active mode. I 
immediately 
got a  high SWR and retune cycle which reduced the SWR at the rig to ~ 10:1.  
Checking the power output, which had been set at 106W, it was indicating  
79W.  
During a second subsequent tune (same ant and same settings ) the  rig 
initiated 
a tune cycle and immediately shut down. No overpower/high  current 
indication. 
I turned the rig on again, and everything was the same  as before.  I suspect 
maybe the tune was marginal and that at that SWR  the rig is between a 
'continue 
or shutdown' logic process. No residual  effects were noted.

Al WA6VNN K3 #31

Of course it had everything to do with it -  but an experiment is an  
experiment - I like to see what a well designed radio can really do. Besides I  
made 
a few dozen contacts on the 160M contest and they were the first contacts  
I've made on 160 in 46 years of hamming.  I rather enjoyed it! I hope the  info 
was helpful in answering the question about SWR and rollback. Yes it does  roll 
back, and very gracefully I'd say.
 
Al WA6VNN



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AW: [Elecraft] K3 with xv-432

2007-12-12 Thread Koppendorfer Klaus
no, not until now

Hi Klaus-

Did you ever get an answer from ELecraft? or someone?

Thanks...

Bruce, NM5B
Santa Fe, NM

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From: Koppendorfer Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:35 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with xv-432


i just realized that the xv-432 has an IF from 28 to 32 MHz
I have one xv on order - for use at satellite freq. 435-436
so IF therefore is 30 to 32 MHz
on my K3 I see there is no way to tune K3 up to 32 MHz
I asked Elecraft for a solution, but got no answer until now,

oe6kyg klaus
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Pelican case?

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Bloom
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 15:34, K8TB wrote:
 Has anyone, who has possession of a K3, ordered and received a Pelican 
 case? I would like to ask what size you went with, and what style.

Hey, I don't mind exposing my ignorance.  What's a Pelican case?

Al N1AL


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Bloom
My solution was to order just one $79 500 Hz CW filter for now.  When
the variable-bandwidth CW filter becomes available I will install it in
the main receiver and move the 500-Hz filter to the second receiver
(when it becomes available).

So the main receiver lineup will be:

- 0.4-0.8 variable CW
- 1.5-2.2 variable SSB
- 2.7 SSB (stock)
- 6.0 AM
- 15  FM

Second receiver:

- 0.5 CW
- 2.7 SSB (stock)

Seems like the most bang for the buck.

Al N1AL


On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 14:53, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 Yes.
 
 You will want some type of ssb and cw filter IMHO.
 
 
 On 12/12/07 1:19 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
  option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
  split operations.
  
  For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
  the second receiver?
  
  73,
  Paul
  K5ESW 


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Scan rate.

2007-12-12 Thread David Woolley

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:


1) It is possible to slow down the scan rate of the K2 by a hardware 
modification which would not affect 'normal' tuning when using either 
VFO 'A' or 'B' and without having to reduce the width of the band being 
scanned?


From the looks of the circuit diagram, that has to be done entirely in 
firmware, based on the 4MHz crystal.




2) Is there a S / S+N threshold below which scanning will not stop? If 
there is, can the threshold be changed by some hardware modification?


I reckon that this has to be based on VSMTR, so one could change the 
threshold, but at the cost of upsetting the S meter.  I would expect the 
threshold to either be based on the computed S meter reading, or based 
on some sort of estimate of the actual background noise.


There is no non-software signal present signal.


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David Woolley
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