Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Strange problem on 10 Meter SSB with power
Have you tried setting Config: TXG VCE to 3.0dB? It did not solve the problem. But as I said, at least the recent frimware has been much better. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KRX3 Arrived.
My KRX3 arrived today. (6th Aug NZST). Ordered with my K3/100 on 4th May 2007. Thanks Elecraft! 73 de Mike, zl1mh. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1594 - Release Date: 8/5/2008 9:49 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
Is that really so ? If that's the case, then the design is poor.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] u want nice audio?
U want to hear nice ham audio? Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr. Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker. Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100 Subject: Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio CC: Is that really so ? If that's the case, then the design is poor.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: u want nice audio?
Charles Harpole wrote: U want to hear nice ham audio? Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr. Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker. Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply. There is nothing wrong with the K3 audio on the whole. It is one of the best receive audio's I have listened to. Audio is always subjective. I prefer a slightly higher audio as I find it easier to hear at those frequencies. To say one thing is better than the other is at best really only going to be *your* opinion. Others have said they do not like the audio at all while I find it great at the default settings. My post was purely to show that there are some unwanted artifacts in the receive audio chain. As for transformers colouring the audio through saturation, that simply should not be happening, at least at these kind of levels! 73 Ian 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100 Subject: Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio CC: Is that really so ? If that's the case, then the design is poor.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber
[Elecraft] Re: [K3] power switch problem - update
Thanks to all who responded to this thread. It looks like the problem is an R.pack on the KIO3 board and Elecraft are sending me a replacement. I will update the reflector once I get that. And will add this to the Wiki. -- Ideas are like rabbits. You get a couple and learn how to handle them, and pretty soon you have a dozen. --John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968) On 5 Aug 2008, at 14:20, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: My K3 appears to have developed a power switch problem - it won't turn off. While away on Scout camp last week, I allowed another 2 hams to work the K3 while I was not present (one is quite young and the other an adult) - later on, one of them noticed that the K3 had turned itself on (after they had turned it off and walked away). The K3 was working correctly for the first few days and as far as I know, was not 'bounced' around while sitting on the table during the week. All functions appear correct except for this. After investigation, I found I can not turn it off. Pressing the power button results in one of the following behaviours: Most common: LCD just shows background colour (light is on), LEDs are off, effectively the rig is off (no AF etc), but the LCD is not and I can't turn it back on with a press of the power button. Occasionally: K3 turns off correctly, but then turns back within a matter of seconds. Less occasionally: as above, but turns back on after a few minutes. Rarely: Appears to turn off as per first scenario, but LCD flickers. To resolve this, I have to pull out the power cord and plug it back in, in which case the K3 turns on - so it's like the power switch is permanently on. This is not the ALARM function. In fact, I tried the alarm to see if it would turn on correctly - it won't, but it did bleep at me when I pulled the power out the back and plugged it back in. I have tried a 'master reset' holding the power switch in, it make no different, doesn't reset and doesn't turn off etc. In preparation for the reset, I went through and noted all the config settings, changing a couple on the way. After that, the K3 turned off ok, but came back on after a few minutes. Holding the power switch while applying power results in the LEDs coming on, but nothing else. I thought this might have been a problem with dampness, but the rig has been in my indoor shake for 3 days now. I also considered supply voltage, since at camp I was using a L/A battery, but its back on the 13.615v supply now (I have a Medusa Research Power Analyzer). I'm about to install the KRX3, so will be taking it apart, but would prefer to resolve this first. Any suggestions? This has been working perfectly since December. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Let me build your K2
I have built more than 200 K2's to date. Let me build one for you. My prices are reasonable, and you receive a new radio with the options you want, ready to play. Please respond directly to my email. 73 Alan W1HYV _ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
They are big transformers, if they are saturating there must be dc present. Is there dc isolation cap in the circuit? David G3UNA did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K1: Advice on Options
1. I understand the tuning range can be set to either 75kHz or 150kHz. My inclination is to go with the 75kHz range, for the slower tuning rate. I went for the wider tuning range (I mostly operate 40 and 20 meters) and I'm glad that I did. I find, for me, that the tuning rate is fine at the 150kHz, but that's just personal taste. The tuning range/rate is determined by a specific capacitor -- the kit comes with two capacitors and you decide at time of construction which one to mount. There's no reason why you can't just buy your own capacitor with a value somewhere in between the two provided to get a little more tuning range and a little less tuning rate. 2. Somewhat related to 1), will I be better off with a range of 7000-7075kHz or 7025-7100kHz, or possibly some other coverage. Can't help you there, sorry. 3. What are your thoughts on the following options? In particular, are they effective, and are any of them much easier to install during initial assembly (as opposed to being retrofit)? A. KAT1 Antenna Tuner Yes, yes, yes. I've operated a very wide range of antennas and not antennas with that Tuner. When my Windom came down in a thunderstorm (one side of the dipole itself snapped about two feet from the insulator), I was able to mount the end (two feet short) on a wood fence post and keep on operating until I was able to get a new Windom and mount it properly. I've also used that thing to match to various temporary antennas (e.g., including some barbed wire hanging on a fence on Field Day). B. KNB1 Noise Blanker I have it, but it's not as effective as I expected. I have to go back and check my work on it. C. KBT1 Battery Holder Had it, took it out. It's a very tight squeeze in the K1, and among other things means that you wind up with a smaller speaker (part of the kit) that I didn't like. As someone else noted, I got a lot more drift using the batteries (as things warmed up??). In addition, there's one wire that comes from the battery unit and runs right past the filter board. If that wire shifts around inside the K1 -- which can happen when you're carrying the K1 to portable sites, it will dramatically impact your frequency control. For example, one day I took the K1 out to a portable site, turned it on, and had the frequency jumping around 10-50KHz (one second I'd be on 7.056MHz, the next second I'd be on 7.021MHz). I removed the KBT1 and instead built myself a little external battery unit consisting of the KBT1 battery holder inside a 1 quart plastic food bag -- the kind you use to store food in the refrigerator. I cut the wires that go from my little Radio Shack wall-wart power supply to the K1 and put Anderson Power Pole connectors on the wires. That way, the wires that feed into the K1 have Anderson Power Poles on them. I then took the battery holder from the KBT1 and put Anderson Power Pole connectors on those wires. I can now switch between wall power from my wall-wart or battery power from the KBT1 battery holder simply by disconnecting the Anderson Power Poles from the wall-wart and instead connecting them to the battery pack. Using this approach, I've powered the K1 with the wall-wart, with the KBT1 battery pack, with a solar panel, with a large gel battery that was recharged by a solar panel, and with a car battery. Jon KB1QBZ K1 #2553 (I think -- I'm out of town on business at the moment and don't have the number with me) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
They are big transformers, if they are saturating there must be dc present. Is there dc isolation cap in the circuit? David G3UNA Saturating is a popular phrase that means there is some problem I never really looked at. :-) Sad but true. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 (and clarifier)
The KRX3 manual explains how to set parameters on the second receiver, including filter settings. The manual is available on the Elecraft web site. The quick answer is to use the BSET hold function on the front panel to configure settings in the second receiver and SUB to enable the sub-receiver. Thanks, that was my oversight too. I also expected it to be in the KRX3 manual but it is actually in the main operating manual. There is a sentence or two in the KRX3 manual that steers the user to the main operation manual on the proper page!! They put it in there (to go to the operating manual) but somehow I kept ignoring it. Just a correction. I was trying to use the BSET hold function because intuitively that is what I thought. So the problem is we do NOT use the Bset. The user really just goes to the normal main filter menu setup and tapssub when setting the filter!!! Everything is setup fine now and working great to the extent I have tested things. Over the next few weeks I'll do things like measure distortion and such. Question I may be missing this too but I still have no idea if I can change the tuning rate of the clarifier knob. I've looked around for it but can't seem to find anything. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1: Advice on Options
I prefer the smaller tuning range, Dave. Makes for much easier tuning. FYI, the advertised tuning ranges are only approximations. Mine ended up at about 85 KHz, which is fine. The internal tuner would be convenient. I use the external T1 tuner instead, as it has the capability to match a wider range of loads. I use external AGM battery packs of various sizes, and am quite happy with this arrangement. In place of the power connector I brought out a short pigtail cable through a grommet and terminated with a PowerPole connector. This is a slick setup. One option you didn't mention that I really like is the stand. It's kind of heavy, but provides a very sturdy base with lots of adjustability for various operating positions both in the shack and in the field. 73 ... Craig AC0DS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: fan control in MFJ-4225MV switching P/S
Just a thought here... There are many fans for computers which have a thermal control for the fan speed built in. I suspect it's just a temperature-variable resistor in series with the power lead. This could be a viable alternative for cooling of almost any thing which needs it, and these things are cheap. Look for phrases like thermally controlled, temperature controlled etc. With just a bit of searching, one can also find fans listed as silent. Many sellers of these fans list the sound level in DB, which makes comparison easy, they almost always list RPM and CFM specs as well. Also a variety of sizes from 40mm to 120mm and more. Try Cooler Guys http://www.coolerguys.com/, NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/, Xoxide http://www.xoxide.com/casefans.html? just to name a few. Hope this may help. 73, John W4CWZ Alan Bloom wrote: Yes, I expect a voltage regulator would work better than a resistor to drop the voltage. Since the fan motor draws more current at startup than when it is running, a contant-voltage source should give more-reliable startup at a lower voltage. But you probably still want to use a thermostat or some other method to switch the fan to full voltage if things get too hot. Al N1AL On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 05:06, Kenneth A. Christiansen wrote: I used a 5 volt regulator on my MFJ 4225 to slow down the fan. This allows the fan to start reliably at any voltage. I have run mine and my K2-100 this way for at least 5 years with no problem on SSB, CW and DIGITAL. 73 Ken W0CZ Bill NZ0T Wrote As I'm not a very technical person I just used a couple of resistors in parallel to slow the fan down in my 4225. I can't remember the values this early in the morning but it seems to be working just fine. The supply does run a little warmer but not hot and the fan is no longer heard. Bill NZ0T ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- The real proof that there is intelligent life in outer space is that they haven't come here. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Charles Harpole wrote: U want to hear nice ham audio? Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr. Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker. Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Speaking of which, I have been wondering if/when there will be a matching good external speaker available for the K3. I have always enjoyed my Kenwood SP-230, which has a headphone jack as well as a switch between two receivers. Has anybody heard anything? I may have to retain this when I replace the TS830S with my new K3. TNX and 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA QTH: DN27UB TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: KRX3 (and clarifier)
Welcome to the Elecraft Reflector Tom! When RIT XIT are both turned off, the RIT control gives fast tuning provided it is configured in the menu (VFO OFS = ON, set tuning rate with VFO CRS). This latter setting is set per mode and can offer 5 KHz tuning steps on SSB. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 --- Question I may be missing this too but I still have no idea if I can change the tuning rate of the clarifier knob. I've looked around for it but can't seem to find anything. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Digest, Vol 52, Issue 6
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:52:30 +0100 From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K1: Advice on Options To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Dave 1. I find my K1 a bit coarse on tuning even when set to the 75 KHz tuning range. I have mine doing ~160KHz, and I like it just fine. I keep thinking about trying to stretch it up towards 200. Muscles might take a bit of learning to get used to fine tuning, but it's not difficult for me at least. Here's a thought, put a 3 pin SIP header (with center pin removed) in where the C2 goes, jack capacitors into the SIP header, and try both. Maybe pull a few other caps of other values out of the junk box and try them to see if you like their spread best. Maybe you'll like 90KHZ, or 100, or 60, or 200!! Who knows till you try. It's your rig, you get to decide. 3. C: I personally don't think the battery holder option is worthwhile, using 8 NiMh cells (internal battery holder limit) would restrict the power output to about 3 Watts, although 1.5 Volt cells would be OK as they give 12 Volts. I've heard of issues with freshly charged warm/hot batteries causing the K1 to drift when first fitted, it may or may not be an issue. I use an external pack of 10 x NiMh cells in a small plastic project box, this is another box to carry but does allow for full output from the K1. I would agree, but I have an alternative. I should preface this by saying I do not have my internal speaker installed as I always use headphones. This affords me some extra space inside the case. When I was going on a business trip a few years ago, I decided at the last minute I wanted to take the K1 with. I went by a Radio Shack (amazingly enough) and picked up some AA battery holders... 1 8 cell and one 2 cell. The 8 cell didn't have wire leads coming off of it, instead it had a 9V style connection. Seeing that, I decided I'd pick up a pack of 9V connectors while I was there. This made it pretty easy to patch the AA holders together, and I could decide if I wanted to use 8 cells or 10. As a bonus, since I didn't have the speaker installed, I could fit the 8 cell holder and the 2 cell holder inside the K1 while packed in my luggage. Pack a small screwdriver, pop the lid when you arrive, snap batteries together, and go! -detrick KI4STU 73 Dave, G4AON K1, K2 and K3/100 (no KX1...) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s Having heard this several times I did some research: Yes, it is possible to force the Line output into distortion but you literally have to force the K3 to distort. If AGC is turned on, I do not see distortion/saturation at any level of input signal or any level of Line Out. If I turn off the AGC and crank the Line Out setting to 100, audio will be distorted with the 50 uV signal from an XG-2. Adjusting the Line Out level while watching the audio output with a scope and audio spectrum analyzer shows that there is no issue as long as the audio level remains below 1V peak (.7V RMS). With an S9 signal (50 uV, preamp off), the Line Out voltage reaches .7V RMS with CONFIG:Line Out set to about 12. All of this is consistent with the K3 Manual which says: | LIN OUT settings above 10 are usually not necessary, | and can in some cases cause overloading of either the | K3s output transformers or the PC soundcard inputs | (typically on noise peaks). Either could degrade the | performance of digital demodulation software. For the benefit of W8JI ... saturation is a good description of the behavior. When adjusting the Line Out level above 1V peak, any single tone in the audio spectrum appears to be clipped at the 1V level. Although this could be due to clipping in the audio amplifier, given the manual warning, transformer saturation appears to be the more likely explanation. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] arrived today
After waiting for more than a year, hi FYI Ordered 07-23-2007 Katiegram 07-11-2008 Arrived today in Germany 08-06-2008 (UPS 2 days) K3 S/N 1300 with KRX3, all factory-installed. backordered KDVR3 Just made first 2 QSOs in CW and SSB... Hope to hear u 73 Lothar, DJ8EW Erding nr Munich ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. You are overdriving your sound card or the line out transformer in the K3. I have measured the third harmonic using an audio spectrum analyzer at both the line out and headphone jacks of my K3. Until the level becomes excessive ( .7V RMS on the Line Out) the third harmonic is more than 50 dB down (Line Out) and more than 70 dB down (headphones). 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Bert Craig wrote: How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php God that's ugly :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode. I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change. 20 meters is 100% output on either sideband. Suggestions? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Looks more like an Air Freshener ::-) 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:17:33 +0100, Ian Maude wrote: Bert Craig wrote: How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php God that's ugly :) 73 Ian ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Run 2 of them with my K3 and they are superb. Mike WA8EBM - Original Message - From: Bert Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
On my K3, I've been using Midland Communication speakers. These speakers are like the Motorola speakers N0SS recommends. I have two so I can use the AFX feature of the radio. I tried many speakers over the last several months. Various computer speakers in all different types of variations. I do like the communication speakers the best. I know they were designed to be mobile speakers, but they have a very full sound with them. The Midland speakrs are 4 ohm speakers and I found that the K3 seemed lot happier with 4 ohm speakers rather than 8 ohm speakers Speaker technology is complex and very interesting. You can read a lot about speakers and enclosures on the internet. The science is interesting and very understandable from a non-engineering perspective. Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
I have a Sounds Sweet, it's bigger and uglier. :) 73 Tony W7GO Ian Maude wrote: Bert Craig wrote: How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php God that's ugly :) 73 Ian ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
All of this is consistent with the K3 Manual which says: | LIN OUT settings above 10 are usually not necessary, | and can in some cases cause overloading of either the | K3s output transformers or the PC soundcard inputs | (typically on noise peaks). Either could degrade the | performance of digital demodulation software. This is news to me - when did this rather crucial change take place, and more importantly what else has changed. My manual says the default for Line Out is 30. Having now looked at the latest manual I can see the reference but what I don't see is the errata sheet detailing all the other changes in the new manual. Not getting at you Joe, in fact I'm grateful to you for pointing it out. 73 to all Trevor G0KTN ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Hi Hi, and I chose not to suggest the Sounds Sweet speaker due to its aesthetics. I thought the SP 30 better matched the Elecraft look. I do love my Sounds Sweet audio for SSB though. - Original Message - From: Ian Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? Bert Craig wrote: How about Palstar's offering? http://www.palstar.com/sp30.php God that's ugly :) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
For the benefit of W8JI ... saturation is a good description of the behavior. When adjusting the Line Out level above 1V peak, any single tone in the audio spectrum appears to be clipped at the 1V level. Although this could be due to clipping in the audio amplifier, given the manual warning, transformer saturation appears to be the more likely explanation. My point is saturation is probably one of the most overused terms to describe problems with transformers or things with soft iron cores. When a balun gets hot, people call it saturating even though it virtually never is actually saturating. Same for inductors, and I've seen the same for transformers in everything from old AM gear to modern equipment. I doubt it is a cheap transformer. More likely the load is wrong, the driver is mismatched or at a power limit, or someone just has the levels way too high for the equipment design. My K3 has no issues at all at rated levels. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
When the LINE OUT transformer issue was first being discussed on this list I took a look at the data sheet for the device: http://www.tamuracorp.com/clientuploads/pdfs/engineeringdocs/TTC-108.pdf It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms). Bob NW8L On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Tom W8JI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the benefit of W8JI ... saturation is a good description of the behavior. When adjusting the Line Out level above 1V peak, any single tone in the audio spectrum appears to be clipped at the 1V level. Although this could be due to clipping in the audio amplifier, given the manual warning, transformer saturation appears to be the more likely explanation. My point is saturation is probably one of the most overused terms to describe problems with transformers or things with soft iron cores. When a balun gets hot, people call it saturating even though it virtually never is actually saturating. Same for inductors, and I've seen the same for transformers in everything from old AM gear to modern equipment. I doubt it is a cheap transformer. More likely the load is wrong, the driver is mismatched or at a power limit, or someone just has the levels way too high for the equipment design. My K3 has no issues at all at rated levels. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Charles and All, Any audio buff will tell you that you can substantially enhance a radio by putting a better speaker on it! That holds true with the K3 as well. I use a Sounds Sweet external speaker at home, and it does wonders for the audio out, just like it does on every other radio I own! Actually I don't think the audio is all that bad with the K3's internal speaker, but it's only a 3$ or $4 speaker, which you can get from Jameco (that's where Elecraft gets them I think). It certainly isn't Hi-Fi however! I guess I don't understand your point, or why you are making an apples and oranges comparison. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Koppendorfer Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:49 AM Subject: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? U want to hear nice ham audio? Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr. Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker. Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100 Subject: Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio CC: Is that really so ? If that's the case, then the design is poor.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is completely different. ~Iain n4lq wrote on 08/06/08 09:42: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 for sale
I have K3 serial 925 for sale in th UK, If anyone is interested in avoiding the queue. It is factory built with ATU, AM,FM, and 2.8khz ssb filters fitted. Cheers Paul GI4FZD __ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
I just checked mine on 40 meters and all is normal. Output is the same for ESSB on or off, USB or LSB. I used a mic plugged into the front of the radio. Don K7FJ When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode. I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change. 20 meters is 100% output on either sideband. Suggestions? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
n4lq wrote: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. I've been using the Kenwood adapter including footswitch since December with no problems. Maybe Bob Heil is having a senior moment.. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Heil-Adapter%2C-which-one--tp676288p676445.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100, Stewart Baker wrote: Is that really so ? Yes. See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/FilterTestNotes.pdf Jim K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
Same here (the adapter, NOT the senior moment, hi!) Kenwood adapter with Proset Plus and footswitch. Works FB. Glenn ON4WIX - Original Message - From: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? n4lq wrote: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. I've been using the Kenwood adapter including footswitch since December with no problems. Maybe Bob Heil is having a senior moment.. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Heil-Adapter%2C-which-one--tp676288p676445.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 6/08/2008 8:23 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
I can confirm cca 20dB lower level of 3rd harmonics on front panel phones output against rear panel line out. Main versus 3rd harmonics is 50dB resp. 7OdB on line-out resp. phones output here. Just tried with on-board sound card od my Dell workstation. (using Spectran SW and output level adjusted for the same peak out level on Spectran screen). Maybe later will try with Firebox sound card which has better parameters. Lexa, ok1dst Joe Subich, W4TV napsal(a): There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. You are overdriving your sound card or the line out transformer in the K3. I have measured the third harmonic using an audio spectrum analyzer at both the line out and headphone jacks of my K3. Until the level becomes excessive ( .7V RMS on the Line Out) the third harmonic is more than 50 dB down (Line Out) and more than 70 dB down (headphones). 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] LINK Command
I've received my K3, factory built S/N 1299, with Sub Rcvr. this past week and have been having fun with it Ordered in July 2007 and Rcvd 1 Aug 2008. It took some time to get up and running. I have operated CW just fine.. Haven't tried other modes yet. On 10 Mhz, it seems that the Sub Rcvr is Linked to the Main Rcvr and I can't seem to find any instructions on the Link command. Help. Dave W7DPW David J Drew -- W7DPW Over 50 Years with Same Call Amateur Extra Since 1970 Continuous ARRL Member Since October 1957 ARRL Life Member October 1969 Vancouver, Washington 98664-4445 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] LINK Command
Hi Dave, Push and hold the SUB key to LINK and UNLINK the VFO (toggle function). 73, Frank - W6NEK - Original Message - From: Dave W7DPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: k3 elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: [Elecraft] LINK Command I've received my K3, factory built S/N 1299, with Sub Rcvr. this past week and have been having fun with it Ordered in July 2007 and Rcvd 1 Aug 2008. It took some time to get up and running. I have operated CW just fine.. Haven't tried other modes yet. On 10 Mhz, it seems that the Sub Rcvr is Linked to the Main Rcvr and I can't seem to find any instructions on the Link command. Help. Dave W7DPW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
And I just plugged in a Kenwood hand mike. Worked like a champ. Robert K5PI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? n4lq wrote: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. I've been using the Kenwood adapter including footswitch since December with no problems. Maybe Bob Heil is having a senior moment.. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Heil-Adapter%2C-which-one--tp676288p676445.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
I have a Sounds Sweet speaker also...does a nice job although somewhat large. I think I paid wither $99 or $110 a while back after it was reviewed in QST. I see it is at $160 now..not worth that much $ though, IMHO. Tom wb2qdg k2 1103 - Original Message - From: David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Koppendorfer Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? Charles and All, Any audio buff will tell you that you can substantially enhance a radio by putting a better speaker on it! That holds true with the K3 as well. I use a Sounds Sweet external speaker at home, and it does wonders for the audio out, just like it does on every other radio I own! Actually I don't think the audio is all that bad with the K3's internal speaker, but it's only a 3$ or $4 speaker, which you can get from Jameco (that's where Elecraft gets them I think). It certainly isn't Hi-Fi however! I guess I don't understand your point, or why you are making an apples and oranges comparison. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Koppendorfer Klaus [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ian Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:49 AM Subject: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? U want to hear nice ham audio? Listen to an SX-101 with the 12 inch Hallicrafters matching spkr. Listen to a Collins 75A-4 with its matching speaker. Otherwise, 3 inch tin is tin and the laws of physics still apply. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:21 +0100 Subject: Re: AW: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio CC: Is that really so ? If that's the case, then the design is poor.. 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:32:55 +0200, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: did you use the line out ?? The Line Output transformers of the K3, saturate at normal program levels try Headphone out on Frontplate and you will see no Harmonic´s 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian Maude Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. August 2008 09:27 An: elecraft Reflector Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bob Cunnings wrote: If you listen to Sherwood's presentation, you'd hear him state that the distortion problem he discusses occurs only when driving a low impedance (speaker) load. If driving a high Z load like, say, powered speakers, or using headphones, there is no problem. There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. http://www.gb7mbc.net/docs/K3Audiotrace.doc 73 Ian So that might explain your observations. Bob NW8L On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Geoffrey Downs wrote: Would be interesting to know the detail of what Rob Sherwood said, but I agree with you, Dave. The tx and rx audio on my K3 sounds cleaner, brighter and clearer to me than my now obsolescent FT1000MP Field even before applying any equalisation. I use either a headset or a couple of small external computer speakers. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: Dave G4AON To: Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio Bottom line to me is the K3's audio is fine. And no, I'm not on commission from Elecraft! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:14:51 -0600, Bob Cunnings wrote: It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms). This datasheet does not show a graph of distortion vs level vs frequency, but it is specified for 300Hz - 3.5 kHz, and its frequency response is specified at 0 dBm (0.78 vrms). It is well known that saturation in transformers is a function of the core, and increases rapidly at lower frequencies below the design limits of the core. As audio transformers go, these are small transformers. They are specifically designed for telecom, where levels are generally well controlled and there's no energy below 300 Hz. They're fine at low levels, but if you overdrive them or feed them LF, the DO saturate, and both IM and harmonic distortion can get nasty. They ARE big enough for the intended use -- driving a sound card to decode RTTY and PSK -- but you've got to keep the level down in the range where they're designed to operate. See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/FilterTestNotes.pdf for my measurements with a high quality professional FFT analysis system. BTW -- Jensen Transformers are pretty much the accepted standard for professional audio transformers, and their data sheets are quite detailed. You can learn a lot about how transformers behave by studying them. http://www.jensen-transformers.com/ 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] LINK Command
On 10 Mhz, it seems that the Sub Rcvr is Linked to the Main Rcvr and I can't seem to find any instructions on the Link command. Hold SUB to toggle LINK/UNLINK 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
Ok...Thanks guys. I'm convinced. Bob must have lost it. I think Elecraft and him need to have a little talk. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Robert Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? And I just plugged in a Kenwood hand mike. Worked like a champ. Robert K5PI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 12:48 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? n4lq wrote: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. I've been using the Kenwood adapter including footswitch since December with no problems. Maybe Bob Heil is having a senior moment.. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Heil-Adapter%2C-which-one--tp676288p676445.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 For Sale located in USA
I have a K3 for Sale, plus Lpan + EMU-202 USB EXternal Sound Unit. Nothing is wrong with the rig, it plays well but I guess I just like the bigger feel of something sitting on my desk top. That weighs 40 LBS more with a few bigger knobs. K3 Serial Number 775 Comes with External antenna input. ATU with two antenna switch. three crystal filters 2.8, 500, and 250 all 8 pole Has the high Stability TXO This is a factory built Unit Received April 19th of this year. I do Have the Second Reciever, KXR3, on Order since the 19 of October so who ever buys this unit will also have the option of Purchasing that receiver from me for the same price that I ordered it for as soon as it arrives. Its a 9.99 out of 10 with no Issues. Only that rating because it is not Brand New. LPAN and emu-202 are brand new. $3000.00 for the whole Lot plus shipping. 262-770-0721 Bruce N9BX 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
Buy the Heil directly from Elecraft ... it plugs nicely into the back of the rig. Works great! 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] u want nice audio?
I found a pair of model 970A KLH speakers at Sears. They were $22.97 plus tax for the pair. Each enclosure has three speakers. These are nice sounding, good looking and are black matching the K3. These are 3 - way bookshelf black textured plastic speakers. Power: use with 5 - 40 watt equipment, Impedance: 4 -6 ohms average, response: 90 Hz to 20 Khz, sensitivity: 86 dB 1 W - 1 M, woofer: 4 w/ polypropylene cone, midrange: 2 w/ polycarobonate cone, tweeter: 5/8 mylar piezo dome, crossover: first order high - pass, terminals: quick connect, size H 7 3/8, W 4 3/4, D 4 3/8. Audio fidelity is very good considering the price. Roy Morris W4WFB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KRX3 (and clarifier)
Question I may be missing this too but I still have no idea if I can change the tuning rate of the clarifier knob. I've looked around for it but can't seem to find anything. If by clarifier, you mean the RIT/XIT knob, its tuning rate is the same as the VFO tuning rate (FINE or COARSE). The RIT/XIT tuning rate is not set independently. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmit IMD (Mic adj for alc)
In light of the Sherwood presentation referenced in the thread about K3 audio, I haven't seen much comment on the spectrum analyzer plot of the K3 transmit IMD. Is this still an artifact of the (now fixed) firmware error mentioned by Eric earlier in this thread? The K3 firmware used for the original QST review did not turn off the K3's RF speech compressor clipper even when the compressor was set to zero for their TX IMD two tone test. This resulted in a significant increase in measured TX IMD when using an external 2 tone source. We corrected this in a firmware update last month. Or is this a currently existing situation with the K3? I'm so from an expert on these things that I hesitate to even ask, but it sounds like Sherwood is saying the K3 is a bad neighbor in transmit IMD, and it looks like it from the plots he provides. 73, Randy, KS4L K2 #337 K3 on order :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Transmit-IMD-tp466326p676894.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and PR-780
I have just retired my IC-7800 for a K3. Should I keep my PR-780 and use it with the K3? Anybody have this same set up? If so any suggestions regarding the initial settings? Thanks, Dave, N2OGK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
I thought the problem had gone away however I discovered I had the ESS option turned off instead. I need someone to test this. You must be on 40 meters, LSB in ESSB mode. Compare upper and lower SSB power outputs. I see about 50% power in LSB. When I whistle in the mic, the power jumps quickly to 100w then quickly decreases to 50w. Not so in USB. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Gary Surrency [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode. I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change. 20 meters is 100% output on either sideband. Suggestions? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] SELL Heil Pro Set Quiet Phone HC-5 for K3 and Other Rigs
Includes original box, instructions, leatherette travel case, 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch stereo adapter AND adapter cables for BOTH Kenwood and Yaesu (sold for about $20 each at HRO - a bit less at other places). All items are in exceptional condition. This package is offered with both adapters for versatility. I can tell you that the KENWOOD Adapter works perfectly with the K3! And yes, the Yaesu adapter works perfectly with a Mark V, etc.! I bought this set-up to use at TI50DX for the 2008 ARRL Phone DX Contest and it is now excess to my needs. You can see it and K3 #83 in operation on Run #2 on our SEDXC web coverage (see: http://www.sedxc.org/ti50dx and scroll to the bottom of the page to see the videos) or by checking my photo out on QRZ.com. BTW - the Members Only section of the ARRL web site indicates that we DID WIN for DX Multi-Multi :-) Photos of the package at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/n4hh Price including Priority Mail shipping with insurance to your door (CONUS) is $170. USPS Money Order please. Yes, I can accept PayPal but just hate being dinged to do so! All questions cheerfully answered. 404-218-3595 cellular - quickest and best way to get me. '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3 #83 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Serial Programming Question
I've been working on a little software project for the K3. I have much of it done, but have hit a snag about filters. I cannot seem to understand or get the commands for changing filters. All I want to do is change the filters from FL1 through FL5. But, it is not all that easy because the command also wants to have bandwidth information. Anyone have any experience with commands for Filters in the K3? Lee In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmit IMD (Mic adj for alc)
Yes - That firmware fix improved 3rd order TX IMD by 3-5 dB on the worst case band (12M) and it is better than that on all other bands. We also made other firmware changes in the gain of various stages to improve TX IMD. Those changes have been in every firmware release for many months. One note: Rob's presentation of that slide was meant to comment on and was representative of ALL solid state 100W push-pull AB amplifiers. He was not intending to focus on the K3. Just about every solid state ham rig made in the past 20 years runs class AB and has a similar (or much worse) 3rd order IMD output. We absolutely are -not- a bad neighbor :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ wrmoore wrote: In light of the Sherwood presentation referenced in the thread about K3 audio, I haven't seen much comment on the spectrum analyzer plot of the K3 transmit IMD. Is this still an artifact of the (now fixed) firmware error mentioned by Eric earlier in this thread? The K3 firmware used for the original QST review did not turn off the K3's RF speech compressor clipper even when the compressor was set to zero for their TX IMD two tone test. This resulted in a significant increase in measured TX IMD when using an external 2 tone source. We corrected this in a firmware update last month. Or is this a currently existing situation with the K3? I'm so from an expert on these things that I hesitate to even ask, but it sounds like Sherwood is saying the K3 is a bad neighbor in transmit IMD, and it looks like it from the plots he provides. 73, Randy, KS4L K2 #337 K3 on order :-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] UK Elecraft net?
I have worked a few K3 owners recently and there seems to interest in an informal get together on air on a weekly basis. I don't really like the idea of formal net and I guess maybe others don't want a net controller either (no I am not volunteering to be net control...). How about Sunday mornings, 0900 local UK time onwards, lowish on 80m so we can try ESSB without upsetting people? I am not a regular user of SSB on 80m but think somewhere near 3630 KHz would avoid the AM net that runs on 3620 and the RSGB news on 3640. I was in QSO with Glenn, ON4WIX, this evening and he thought the time and frequency would be OK for those living on the west part of continental Europe too. Any thoughts and any takers? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Fwd: Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m]
Hi Steve: I just did the following test and got the same output from USB and LSB. Using latest beta firmware. K3 #202. Filters: AM; 2.8k; 1.8k; 400 Hz; 200 Hz ESSB enabled - 4.0 Bandwidth Band - 40 M Mic set at 12 Comp set at 24 Power set at 100 Mode LSB 2 Tone - ON Tap XMIT Power out to Dummy load indicated on Diamond SX200 power meter - 80 watts Switch to USB Tap XMIT Power out - 80 watts. 2 Tone - Off Using a mic (Heil/Elecraft Pro-Set) plugged into back panel, the output on both sidebands appears approximately equal as best I can tell. Whistling into mic produces about 100 watts, both sidebands. No problem here like you describe. 73, Ken K3IU ~~~ n4lq wrote: I thought the problem had gone away however I discovered I had the ESS option turned off instead. I need someone to test this. You must be on 40 meters, LSB in ESSB mode. Compare upper and lower SSB power outputs. I see about 50% power in LSB. When I whistle in the mic, the power jumps quickly to 100w then quickly decreases to 50w. Not so in USB. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: n4lq [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: Gary Surrency [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode. I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change. 20 meters is 100% output on either sideband. Suggestions? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Six meter pre-amp
I just converted one of my144 MHz home built pre-amps to 6 meters. I have no test equipment other than listening to beacons but I can tell you that it makes one hell of a difference in signals. I now can really hear the noise floor. I am using a MGF-1302. The gain is probably 20dB but I have added a 10 dB pad at the ouptut of the pre-amp so that the noise will not overdrive the K3. If your going to be active on 6, I would recommend same. 73 Jack, W3TMZ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
In addition to the KLH 970A at Sears (still available on-line at $29.99), Sony SS-B1000 (pair) is often available at Radio Shack or Best Buy in the same price range. Best Buy also has a pair of Insignia brand speakers that appear to be identical to the KLH 970A in the under $30 range. The small bookshelf style speakers are every bit as good as the much more expensive specialty speakers. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Morris Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 3:30 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] u want nice audio? I found a pair of model 970A KLH speakers at Sears. They were $22.97 plus tax for the pair. Each enclosure has three speakers. These are nice sounding, good looking and are black matching the K3. These are 3 - way bookshelf black textured plastic speakers. Power: use with 5 - 40 watt equipment, Impedance: 4 -6 ohms average, response: 90 Hz to 20 Khz, sensitivity: 86 dB 1 W - 1 M, woofer: 4 w/ polypropylene cone, midrange: 2 w/ polycarobonate cone, tweeter: 5/8 mylar piezo dome, crossover: first order high - pass, terminals: quick connect, size H 7 3/8, W 4 3/4, D 4 3/8. Audio fidelity is very good considering the price. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
Hello All, I would caution all who listen to the advice from Heil. My experience with them has been less than satisfactory to date. Recently I spoke with them and discussed several options and I was advised to purchase the Goldline dual element mic, holder, adapter and base. I repeatedly asked would this meet my requirements and I was given an assurance that they would. Well, the items arrived and the short answer is that they did not listen to what I required at all, but instead, shipped the items with no regard for what I requested. I also sent them an e-mail with the request for a latching PTT button fitted to the base. Heil shipped a Goldline with dual elements fitted and their rather cheap plastic mic holder attached to a poorly made, overweighted base with a momentary push button and two cables to be connected between the base and the pig tail off the adapter for the connection to the K3. It is messy to say the least, the cables are so long that they get in the way and l have difficulty trying to conceal the excess cable. I contacted Heil after they arrived and asked why the button on the base was momentary, not latching, and I was told that the FCC discourage the use of this type of setup for the fear we may leave the room with the transceiver keyed. I have run audio tests with other stations and interestingly, with a Spec An and to my surprise all reports appear to favour the Turner +2 for natural sound. As the K3 has an inbuilt equaliser for TX audio, no amount of adjustment is able to make the Heil Mic produce that same natural timbre to my voice. (Yeah, my voice is pretty ordinary, but it is not adjustable Hi Hi) I do not question Heil Sounds quality in microphones, but I do question the quality of audio produced from the Goldline Mics when connected to the K3.I did try both elements of course. Perhaps they have a better mic for use with the K3..? I would be interested to know if anyone has tried other Heil mics and discovered a better match for the K3. Speakers are always subjective of course, but to date I have tried several different speakers I have here and not yet settled on one. I looked at the Palstar (ugly speaker) and the Sounds Sweet also (even more ugly?) but no availability here in Australia so my search continues. Cheers, Gary S/N 679 K3/100 -- Stokers...we get ya goin' ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
I'm using their Kenwood adapter with my Heil Goldline and it works perfectly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:33 AM To: n4lq Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is completely different. ~Iain n4lq wrote on 08/06/08 09:42: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ESSB Problem 40m
i also see the same problem. i thought that for some reason the TXGN HP setting was messed up. I checked this setting and confirmed it was ok. My K3 also shows the same symptoms on 40 meters. Mike N8XPQ n4lq wrote: When using ESSB, any bandwidth, on 40 meters, LSB output power drops about 50% compared to USB. Turning off ESSB gives 100% power in either mode. I reloaded the latest firmware, 2.23, no change. 20 meters is 100% output on either sideband. Suggestions? Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/ESSB-Problem-40m-tp676026p677083.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
I just made two basic samples using K3 and TS-850 using Firebox external soundcard and Winrad SW. You can see screenshot from K3 line-out audio on http://www.ok1kei.org/K3_audio/line_out_firebox_winrad.jpg This is K3 with 400Hz roofing filter on some stable carrier. LINE OUT setting on level 9. Then the same signal with the same af level (no change in Firebox input mixer settings) with TS-850 http://www.ok1kei.org/K3_audio/ts850_af_firebox_winrad.jpg This is my TS-850 with 400Hz inrad filter and output from phones jack. There are also some ghosts in af spectrum, generaly more noisy, but no image of passband af signal visible. As I do not believe in overloding of the Firebox soundcard (the same conditions for both RIGs so if overloded so in both cases...), there is something to explain. Comments? Thanks for your attention, 73! Lexa, OK1DST K3/10 #727 Alexandr Kobranov napsal(a): I can confirm cca 20dB lower level of 3rd harmonics on front panel phones output against rear panel line out. Main versus 3rd harmonics is 50dB resp. 7OdB on line-out resp. phones output here. Just tried with on-board sound card od my Dell workstation. (using Spectran SW and output level adjusted for the same peak out level on Spectran screen). Maybe later will try with Firebox sound card which has better parameters. Lexa, ok1dst Joe Subich, W4TV napsal(a): There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. You are overdriving your sound card or the line out transformer in the K3. I have measured the third harmonic using an audio spectrum analyzer at both the line out and headphone jacks of my K3. Until the level becomes excessive ( .7V RMS on the Line Out) the third harmonic is more than 50 dB down (Line Out) and more than 70 dB down (headphones). 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
We plowed this ground a while back. It is a Kenwood adapter but if you buy the Heil/Elecraft mike, it has an Icom element so you need to set the bias in the config menu. If you use a regular Heil Goldline or other mike, you should not set the bias. k4ia Craig Buck Fredericksburg, Virginia K3 #101 **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] UK Elecraft net?
Dave G4AON wrote: I have worked a few K3 owners recently and there seems to interest in an informal get together on air on a weekly basis. I don't really like the idea of formal net and I guess maybe others don't want a net controller either (no I am not volunteering to be net control...). How about Sunday mornings, 0900 local UK time onwards, lowish on 80m so we can try ESSB without upsetting people? I am not a regular user of SSB on 80m but think somewhere near 3630 KHz would avoid the AM net that runs on 3620 and the RSGB news on 3640. I was in QSO with Glenn, ON4WIX, this evening and he thought the time and frequency would be OK for those living on the west part of continental Europe too. Great idea, Dave. I don't know if I'll be able to participate as being restricted to attic antennas I only have a slinky dipole for 80m, but I'll make a note to have a listen. - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/UK-Elecraft-net--tp676986p677133.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:26:06 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote: I would be interested to know if anyone has tried other Heil mics and discovered a better match for the K3. The K3 is extremely versatile when it comes to microphones. Virtually any good dynamic mic or unbalanced electret mic will work VERY well with a K3. Virtually any pro mic wired for use with wireless mics will work fine with a K3. Shure, AKG, and Crown all make very nice head-worn mics like this. The only mics that won't work are professional, balanced electret mics. Heil products are WILDLY overpriced (by a factor of at least 10:1) for what they are. One of the features of certain Heil mics is highly equalized audio to cut through QRM and QRN (but doesn't sound very nice). All the equalization and signal processing you could possibly need is built into the K3, is easy to adjust, and it works VERY well. see http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
K4IA wrote: We plowed this ground a while back. It is a Kenwood adapter but if you buy the Heil/Elecraft mike, it has an Icom element so you need to set the bias in the config menu. If you use a regular Heil Goldline or other mike, you should not set the bias. I was beginning to think I was having a senior moment when I read the first post in this thread because I was sure I ordered a Kenwood cable with my Heil mic. My memory was right for a change. Using the mic with switchable narrow/wide elements on a desk stand and it works great - good audio reports and plenty of drive. - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Heil-Adapter%2C-which-one--tp676288p677154.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
Gary Gregory-3 wrote: Hello All, I would caution all who listen to the advice from Heil. My experience with them has been less than satisfactory to date. Recently I spoke with them and discussed several options and I was advised to purchase the Goldline dual element mic, holder, adapter and base. I repeatedly asked would this meet my requirements and I was given an assurance that they would. Well, the items arrived and the short answer is that they did not listen to what I required at all, but instead, shipped the items with no regard for what I requested. I also sent them an e-mail with the request for a latching PTT button fitted to the base. Heil shipped a Goldline with dual elements fitted and their rather cheap plastic mic holder attached to a poorly made, overweighted base with a momentary push button and two cables to be connected between the base and the pig tail off the adapter for the connection to the K3. It is messy to say the least, the cables are so long that they get in the way and l have difficulty trying to conceal the excess cable. [snip] It looks like you have the exact same mic that I bought. Just goes to show you can't please all the people all the time. Yes, the cables are long and the separate PTT cable is a nuisance since I have no desire to use a foot switch, but I have screwdrivers and a soldering iron so I shortened the cable and rewired the PTT jack so it goes in the back of the mic socket, and then via the screened cable to get to the radio. Heil don't do a locking PTT as far as I know which is a bit of a bind, so they did slip up if they gave you the idea they did. It would be nice to have an option on the K3 to configure the PTT as a toggle - one press for on, another for off. I had a Nissei desk mic that worked quite well with my K2 but I felt that the best radio deserved the best mic. Try as I might I couldn't get the audio to sound how I wanted with the TX EQ, though to be fair there have been a lot of firmware revisions and audio improvements since then so perhaps it would be easier now. Anyway I'm pleased with the Heil mic and the ability to just flip a switch to get the DX setting is easier than going into menus. - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-and-Heil-Microphones-tp677050p677178.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] u want nice audio?
Tom McCulloch wrote: I have a Sounds Sweet speaker also...does a nice job although somewhat large. I think I paid wither $99 or $110 a while back after it was reviewed in QST. I see it is at $160 now..not worth that much $ though, IMHO. Can't see the point in paying all that when the K3 has a perfectly good speaker. Anyway, Real Hams Use Headphones. If I want hi-fi I'll go downstairs and listen to music on the stereo. :) - Julian, G4ILO http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham Directory -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Audio-tp673868p677192.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
Gary Gregory wrote: I do not question Heil Sounds quality in microphones, but I do question the quality of audio produced from the Goldline Mics when connected to the K3.I did try both elements of course. Perhaps they have a better mic for use with the K3..? You have a completely different experience to me Gary. I use a Goldline with Studio and HC-5 inserts and it rocks. I have little EQ in at all and I get consistently good reports from it. For PTT I use a small plastic box with 2 switches, one latching, the other momentary. It fits in my hand nicely and cost me a couple of pounds to make. I have my mic on a boom out of personal preference which hides the cable somewhat. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
I've always though the entire Heil thing was bunk They use the same little element in all mics and the shape-size of the case gives them a little different sound. They paint them gold and install them in large, empty metal cases to help our ego. I am now using a cheap computer headset and with the new ESSB mode, I'm getting glowing audio reports without asking. The change to ESSB was instantly noticed by locals and drew rave comments. Any decent mic. with a flat response and a wind shield can be made to sound equal or better than a Heil by adjusting the EQ. The 1/8 inputs on the back of the K3 are a Godsend. A PTT mic. would be nice but I just use a foot switch plugged into the PTT jack on the back (another cool feature). Sometimes I put the foot switch on the desktop and it becomes a pound-to-talk button. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Ian Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones Gary Gregory wrote: I do not question Heil Sounds quality in microphones, but I do question the quality of audio produced from the Goldline Mics when connected to the K3.I did try both elements of course. Perhaps they have a better mic for use with the K3..? You have a completely different experience to me Gary. I use a Goldline with Studio and HC-5 inserts and it rocks. I have little EQ in at all and I get consistently good reports from it. For PTT I use a small plastic box with 2 switches, one latching, the other momentary. It fits in my hand nicely and cost me a couple of pounds to make. I have my mic on a boom out of personal preference which hides the cable somewhat. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1596 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 4:55 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
Hmmm, I understand my Heil PR 40, which is a balance output mike, will work with the K3 if you get the proper cable for it. It works fine with my Orion II but since the Orion uses the Yaesu wiring convention I need another cable with the Kenwood wiring on one end and the three pin XLR connector on the other and which will convert it from balance to unbalanced as the PR 40 to Orion cable does. After I do get the needed cable I'm going to give that mike a try. The K3 also works quite well with a Heil Gold line. I tend to agree with you about some Heil pricing but I think the PR 40 is an exception. Its price is reasonable when compared to other professional level mikes such as the EV RE 20. Bruce - W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:26:06 +1000, Gary Gregory wrote: I would be interested to know if anyone has tried other Heil mics and discovered a better match for the K3. The K3 is extremely versatile when it comes to microphones. Virtually any good dynamic mic or unbalanced electret mic will work VERY well with a K3. Virtually any pro mic wired for use with wireless mics will work fine with a K3. Shure, AKG, and Crown all make very nice head-worn mics like this. The only mics that won't work are professional, balanced electret mics. Heil products are WILDLY overpriced (by a factor of at least 10:1) for what they are. One of the features of certain Heil mics is highly equalized audio to cut through QRM and QRN (but doesn't sound very nice). All the equalization and signal processing you could possibly need is built into the K3, is easy to adjust, and it works VERY well. see http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf 73, Jim Brown K9YC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
I am using a Heil Proset with my K3 and it definitely does require a Kenwood pigtail adaptor. The Yaesu adaptor will not work. If Bob Heil said otherwise I think he is wrong. Bruce - W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:28 PM To: 'Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM'; 'n4lq' Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I'm using their Kenwood adapter with my Heil Goldline and it works perfectly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:33 AM To: n4lq Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is completely different. ~Iain n4lq wrote on 08/06/08 09:42: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones
I suppose it is very subjective but I have so far used both a Heil Proset and a Gold line with my K3. I have consistently received good audio reports with both. Both also sound very good in the monitor. I use no transmit EQ. I also have a Heil PR 40 which I plan to try with the K3 after I obtain the required cable. That mike sounds great on my Orion II which uses a balanced to unbalanced Yaesu cable. The K3 will need a balanced to unbalanced Kenwood cable. I will say that the narrow mode on the Goldline sounds awful on almost any radio and I never use it. But the wide position is quite decent. Of course, if you have found the Turner mike does it for you than that is the one to use. Another option might be to use an external equalizer which might have greater adjustability than the inbuilt K3 equalizer. Bruce - W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:26 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Heil Microphones Hello All, I would caution all who listen to the advice from Heil. My experience with them has been less than satisfactory to date. Recently I spoke with them and discussed several options and I was advised to purchase the Goldline dual element mic, holder, adapter and base. I repeatedly asked would this meet my requirements and I was given an assurance that they would. Well, the items arrived and the short answer is that they did not listen to what I required at all, but instead, shipped the items with no regard for what I requested. I also sent them an e-mail with the request for a latching PTT button fitted to the base. Heil shipped a Goldline with dual elements fitted and their rather cheap plastic mic holder attached to a poorly made, overweighted base with a momentary push button and two cables to be connected between the base and the pig tail off the adapter for the connection to the K3. It is messy to say the least, the cables are so long that they get in the way and l have difficulty trying to conceal the excess cable. I contacted Heil after they arrived and asked why the button on the base was momentary, not latching, and I was told that the FCC discourage the use of this type of setup for the fear we may leave the room with the transceiver keyed. I have run audio tests with other stations and interestingly, with a Spec An and to my surprise all reports appear to favour the Turner +2 for natural sound. As the K3 has an inbuilt equaliser for TX audio, no amount of adjustment is able to make the Heil Mic produce that same natural timbre to my voice. (Yeah, my voice is pretty ordinary, but it is not adjustable Hi Hi) I do not question Heil Sounds quality in microphones, but I do question the quality of audio produced from the Goldline Mics when connected to the K3.I did try both elements of course. Perhaps they have a better mic for use with the K3..? I would be interested to know if anyone has tried other Heil mics and discovered a better match for the K3. Speakers are always subjective of course, but to date I have tried several different speakers I have here and not yet settled on one. I looked at the Palstar (ugly speaker) and the Sounds Sweet also (even more ugly?) but no availability here in Australia so my search continues. Cheers, Gary S/N 679 K3/100 -- Stokers...we get ya goin' ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Update confusion
I have K3 #290 and I like to keep it updated. I have the latest K3 Utility and currently have 2.02/1.77 which is the latest that I can find when using the utility. The website says there is a K3 firmware release dated 7/22/2008. How do I find it to download it? I have not downloaded any Beta stuff. Also, I downloaded the rev D manual and it is great. In the Config Menu of the Rev D manual is PTT RLS which is not in my K3 menu. Is that something in the Beta releases or the 7/22 release? There is something very confusing about this, at least for me. 73, Steve, K4FJ **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: Are others having a hard time sending messages now?
Suddenly QTH.NET is bouncing messages to the elecraft reflector. Am I alone in this issue? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: Are others having a hard time sending messages now?
Oops, it must be just the messages about K3 microphones. This worked but any response to that thread didn't. Guess the QTH.NET filter didn't appreciate my comment :-) Tnx for the bandwidth. Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
Do you have AFX on and are you looking at I/Q (left/right) from the K3? The capture - including the small spike directly between the real and ghost signals looks like you are trying to process an unbalanced I/Q signal with the resulting improperly nulled image. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexandr Kobranov Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:53 PM Cc: 'elecraft Reflector' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio I just made two basic samples using K3 and TS-850 using Firebox external soundcard and Winrad SW. You can see screenshot from K3 line-out audio on http://www.ok1kei.org/K3_audio/line_out_firebox_winrad.jpg This is K3 with 400Hz roofing filter on some stable carrier. LINE OUT setting on level 9. Then the same signal with the same af level (no change in Firebox input mixer settings) with TS-850 http://www.ok1kei.org/K3_audio/ts850_af_firebox_winrad.jpg This is my TS-850 with 400Hz inrad filter and output from phones jack. There are also some ghosts in af spectrum, generaly more noisy, but no image of passband af signal visible. As I do not believe in overloding of the Firebox soundcard (the same conditions for both RIGs so if overloded so in both cases...), there is something to explain. Comments? Thanks for your attention, 73! Lexa, OK1DST K3/10 #727 Alexandr Kobranov napsal(a): I can confirm cca 20dB lower level of 3rd harmonics on front panel phones output against rear panel line out. Main versus 3rd harmonics is 50dB resp. 7OdB on line-out resp. phones output here. Just tried with on-board sound card od my Dell workstation. (using Spectran SW and output level adjusted for the same peak out level on Spectran screen). Maybe later will try with Firebox sound card which has better parameters. Lexa, ok1dst Joe Subich, W4TV napsal(a): There is still a bit of a problem on receive audio. This has been there for some time and exists in the form of harmonics. The 3rd harmonic is quite easy to see and repeatable. I used HRD to show this on the waterfall after a conversation with a friend. You can clearly see the harmonic at.. You are overdriving your sound card or the line out transformer in the K3. I have measured the third harmonic using an audio spectrum analyzer at both the line out and headphone jacks of my K3. Until the level becomes excessive ( .7V RMS on the Line Out) the third harmonic is more than 50 dB down (Line Out) and more than 70 dB down (headphones). 73, ... Joe, W4TV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K2] KDSP2 for sale or trade
Now that I have a K3 I am using my K2 for portable QRP so I am changing its configuration. I am offering for sale a built and working KDSP2 for $220 postpaid in the US (kit price is $229). If you live outside the US, shipping is extra. This includes the manual and the headers and spacer needed to install it. If you have a (built or unbuilt) KAT2 tuner, I will trade the DSP for the KAT2 and $60 (the difference in kit prices). -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 I/O Problem Fixed
Hi Gang, Here is the Readers Digest version of my repair. Bottom Line? The Max 1406 chip on the I/O board was toast and Don Wilhelm was instrumental in getting me back on line. On Friday evening of FD setup this year, my K2 (SN#543) worked FB and was talking to the computer at the K2ZR/Buffalo Lighthouse Crew FD. On Saturday, the op took the seat and, well, no info from the rig. H. Everything was unplugged overnight so the thunderstorms shouldn't have had an effect. Maybe ESD from plugging in the first antenna? Who knows. During troubleshooting after FD, I caused a smoke release from L1 on the daughter board which is plugged into the front panel. This caused complications as I had no spare. But, THANK GOD we have Don Wilhem on the job! He guided me through the whole process with about 4 email go-arounds and SHAZAAM, a final determination that the MAX1406 likely died. A call the the Big-E, three days for the pony express, and about 10 minutes ago my favorite rig was moved from the workbench to the Op table where it is supposed to be. Fixed and ready for DX. For the past few weeks I had my FT817 (IF rig for uW work) and my FT100D (Rover and 6M) on the Op table. They are not even in the same league as the K2. And to think that I've been considering a new fancy Yaesu to take over for the old K2. 73, Mark, K2QO FN03ra ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] k2 bnc connector
Hello Has anyone had any trouble with the bnc antenna connector on a K2? Mine doesn't make contact with the antenna coax all the time. I can tell by the receiver noise when it looses contact. I think it is probably doing that when I am transmitting, but I have no way to tell except the swr goes out is sight. I have tried several of the bnc to pl239 adaptors and have the same problem with all of them. Has anyone ever changed out the antenna receptical from the bnc to a so239? This loosing contact with the antenna while I am transmitting can't be very good on the K2 final amps. Any info will be appreciated. 73 Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms). Bob NW8L But that doesn't mean it distorts or saturates. It is simply a rating. My K3 for example on a good Agilent selective level meter starts to distort at -5dB reference to 1 milliwatt into 600 ohms. That's a front panel setting of about 50 on the line output level adjustment. At -5dB the second harmonic is down 58 dB (absolute level of -63 dB mW ). At lower settings it gets better. While I have not looked inside the radio (and won't bother) the distortion has all the characteristics of a mismatched output device because it clips at about the same level regardless of frequency. If it was that commonly spoke of but elusive to find core saturation the point of distortion should change with frequency. That's because the flux level should change with frequency for a constant voltage across the primary as the reactance changes with frequency. When I reduce line output setting to 25 (whatever that means) the distortion is too close to noise floor to measure accurately. I would think -10dB below 1 mW, while a bit low from commercial standards, is good enough for any properly adjusted ham radio sound card or audio system. I'm pretty fussy about things that matter, and I think the audio distortion shortfall (at least from what measure) is greatly over rated. It isn't out of line with anything else I use, and is a lot better than some things I won't use. This is a sample of one unit, but it looks good to me when the level is kept about -10 dB 1 mW into 600 ohms. I can't see a problem in a single tone harmonic distortion test. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Audio
I wasn't asserting that this means it distorts or saturates, but merely reciting the rating given on the data sheet. I agree that it should be perfectly adequate for interfacing with normal computer sound card inputs as long as one didn't set the line out level too high. It's fine here. Bob NW8L On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Tom W8JI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a 600 ohm transformer, rated for 7dBm max (about 1.7 Vrms across 600 ohms). Bob NW8L But that doesn't mean it distorts or saturates. It is simply a rating. My K3 for example on a good Agilent selective level meter starts to distort at -5dB reference to 1 milliwatt into 600 ohms. That's a front panel setting of about 50 on the line output level adjustment. At -5dB the second harmonic is down 58 dB (absolute level of -63 dB mW ). At lower settings it gets better. While I have not looked inside the radio (and won't bother) the distortion has all the characteristics of a mismatched output device because it clips at about the same level regardless of frequency. If it was that commonly spoke of but elusive to find core saturation the point of distortion should change with frequency. That's because the flux level should change with frequency for a constant voltage across the primary as the reactance changes with frequency. When I reduce line output setting to 25 (whatever that means) the distortion is too close to noise floor to measure accurately. I would think -10dB below 1 mW, while a bit low from commercial standards, is good enough for any properly adjusted ham radio sound card or audio system. I'm pretty fussy about things that matter, and I think the audio distortion shortfall (at least from what measure) is greatly over rated. It isn't out of line with anything else I use, and is a lot better than some things I won't use. This is a sample of one unit, but it looks good to me when the level is kept about -10 dB 1 mW into 600 ohms. I can't see a problem in a single tone harmonic distortion test. 73 Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] k2 bnc connector
Scott, IMHO, changing from a BNC to a UHF jack (SO239) would be a step backwards. The SO239 requires that the connector be tight to produce a reliable connection, BNC and type N connectors do not. If the BNC connector on the K2 has been abused, it can lose contact at the center pin, so you may have a valid point, but replacing it with a new BNC connector should solve the problem - if yo want to get really fancy, replace it with a type N connector. 73, Don W3FPR Scott McDowell wrote: Hello Has anyone had any trouble with the bnc antenna connector on a K2? Mine doesn't make contact with the antenna coax all the time. I can tell by the receiver noise when it looses contact. I think it is probably doing that when I am transmitting, but I have no way to tell except the swr goes out is sight. I have tried several of the bnc to pl239 adaptors and have the same problem with all of them. Has anyone ever changed out the antenna receptical from the bnc to a so239? This loosing contact with the antenna while I am transmitting can't be very good on the K2 final amps. Any info will be appreciated. 73 Scott N5SM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1595 - Release Date: 8/6/2008 8:23 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
Elecraft K3 front mic socket (8 pin) is basically Kenwood standard, but Elecraft forgot to check the full pin-out and mistakenly reversed two pins that are used only on Kenwood hand mics and others not usually in the HF ham shack. Do beware of this fact. Altho it does not affect the Heil Kenwood adapter. Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:18:24 -0400 CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net I am using a Heil Proset with my K3 and it definitely does require a Kenwood pigtail adaptor. The Yaesu adaptor will not work. If Bob Heil said otherwise I think he is wrong. Bruce - W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:28 PM To: 'Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM'; 'n4lq' Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I'm using their Kenwood adapter with my Heil Goldline and it works perfectly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:33 AM To: n4lq Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is completely different. ~Iain n4lq wrote on 08/06/08 09:42: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] UK Elecraft net?
I'll see if I can join - bit early for me on a Sunday, but we'll see. -- If all our misfortunes were laid in one common heap whence everyone must take an equal portion, most people would be contented to take their own and depart. -Socrates (469?-399 B.C.) On 6 Aug 2008, at 22:01, Dave G4AON wrote: I have worked a few K3 owners recently and there seems to interest in an informal get together on air on a weekly basis. I don't really like the idea of formal net and I guess maybe others don't want a net controller either (no I am not volunteering to be net control...). How about Sunday mornings, 0900 local UK time onwards, lowish on 80m so we can try ESSB without upsetting people? I am not a regular user of SSB on 80m but think somewhere near 3630 KHz would avoid the AM net that runs on 3620 and the RSGB news on 3640. I was in QSO with Glenn, ON4WIX, this evening and he thought the time and frequency would be OK for those living on the west part of continental Europe too. Any thoughts and any takers? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 bnc connector
Oak Hills Research sells kit containing two very nice, quality BNC chassis-mount female connectors with gold-plated pins. The kit also comes with mounting plates and hardware to install them in standard SO-239 holes. It's their part number OP-SB2 and sells for $7.50 for a pack of two. I used these kits when I built my K3 to replace the two SO-239's supplied with the kit, and also on my WM-2 wattmeter. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Audio out design question
The specifications say 3% maximum audio distortion. With a little care the K3 will not distort to 3%. If the operator is allowed to produce issues by being given more flexibility, is this a poor design? This level of flexibility sounds like a good thing to me. Again good practice, as always, is the responsibility of the operator (FCC licensee!). It is not a poor design unless allowing the operator this precious flexibility is a mistake. This is the essence of the K3, and indeed Elecraft in general. It is also why I have a K3 and why I find the whole K3 experience appealing. The firmware upgrades are like a cool new surprise every time. I call it the progression ot the Amateur Radio Art. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Audio-out-design-question-tp677658p677658.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one?
The Heil Headset and the Hand Mike that I bought with my K3 will not work on my TS-850 and the TS-850 mike does not work on the K3. I have not yet investigated the details. Cookie, K5EWJ --- Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elecraft K3 front mic socket (8 pin) is basically Kenwood standard, but Elecraft forgot to check the full pin-out and mistakenly reversed two pins that are used only on Kenwood hand mics and others not usually in the HF ham shack. Do beware of this fact. Altho it does not affect the Heil Kenwood adapter. Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:18:24 -0400 CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net I am using a Heil Proset with my K3 and it definitely does require a Kenwood pigtail adaptor. The Yaesu adaptor will not work. If Bob Heil said otherwise I think he is wrong. Bruce - W8FU -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 5:28 PM To: 'Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM'; 'n4lq' Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I'm using their Kenwood adapter with my Heil Goldline and it works perfectly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 10:33 AM To: n4lq Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Heil Adapter, which one? I don't know what Heil is taking about, but if I compare the pinout described in the K3 manual to the Kenwood one at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood the stuff that matters (mic audio, PTT and grounds for each) seems to line up properly, where the Yaesu pinout is completely different. ~Iain n4lq wrote on 08/06/08 09:42: I was thinking about ordering a Heil headset and had a question about which adapter to order. I though it would turn out to be the Kenwood adpt. According to Bob Heil himselfIt's the Yaesu adapter. The confusion never ends. Yaesu had several ways of configuring their 8 pin mic jack. I read about some difference in Kenwood vs. the K3's pinout and now this. See Bob's replay to my query below. So who is confused? I sure am. Hi Steve Thanks for your note. Yes, there IS confusion because Elecraft began as a kit primarily. They suggested you follow Kenwood pin out but as you built it that was so nice and easy to change. They went to a Yaesu configuration with the K3. There is no confusion here. Yaesu. Never was anything else that I knew of. That works well. Ten Tec is using this same pin out and several of the QRP kits are following that so this is all good Steve. As far as our products - ANY of the dynamic elements work so for the headset, you use the AD-1Y (Yaesu) adapter and the headset using our HC 5 element. This is a terrific combination. The AD-1Y adapter has a 1/4 female output for the HS 2 or FS 2 PTT control. For microphones I would look at the PR 781 or GOLDLINE GM 5. Cable is the CC-1Y and again that has output for the PTT control of our handswitch of footswitch. Hope this helps. Let me know how best I can help form here, Steve. Steve Ellington [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.10/1586 - Release Date: 8/1/2008 6:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):
