[Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Ignacy

Is there any advantage in using a simple microham interface like USB2 or CW
keyer for K3?

It seems that the serial cable can provide both radio control + CW
keying+PTT. The data connection is straight. There are provisions for
separate paddle. Not sure how RTTY would be handled without an interface.

I understand advantages of interfaces in more complex situations like SO2R
or when a single USB connection with the computer is desirable.  


Ignacy

 
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[Elecraft] Firmware updates

2008-11-08 Thread David Robertson
I have downloaded many firmware files from Elecraft and found that downloading 
the beta files can be downloaded to any folder you desire using Windows 
Internet explorer. The non-beta firmware can only be downloaded in to the 
defult folder of the Elecraft installer program then later moved into the 
desired folder. You don't use the FTP site for non-beta firmware.

Installing both beta and non-beta firmware from my own folder is successful.

73
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[Elecraft] Reminder - UK Elecraft net Sundays 1000 local, 3630 KHz NOTE NEW START TIME

2008-11-08 Thread Dave G4AON
Following a request for a move of frequency to 3720 in order to clear 
European QRM, I asked what others thought with various options.


There have been some 49 stations call into the UK net at various times - 
probably not all read the Reflector, but I would have thought more than 
4 would reply!


One station pointed out that he couldn't operate on 3720 as his antenna 
was tuned for lower in the band.

Three favoured starting an hour later.

We will therefore try an hour later on the same frequency, 3630 +/- QRM, 
starting at 1000 local (currently 1000 local UK time = 1000 UTC).


73 and see you in the morning.

Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80, Acom 1000, dipole
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[Elecraft] K3-Hardware agc mod and S-meter cal

2008-11-08 Thread stewart rolfe
Have an early K3 here and have just done the hardware agc mod, spurred on by 
cqww ssb a fortnight ago :-)

Mod went super smooth but am wondering about the recommendation to recalibrate 
the s-meter; is it just a precaution or is the s-meter guaranteed to be out 
after the mod? Seems pretty close to me from a quick and dirty before/after 
check with a stable DDS signal source but don't have a proper calibrated sig 
gen to hand.

I'm not an 'S-meter slave' but wondered if I should check it when I have the 
opportunity

73,

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 #145)
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[Elecraft] KSB2

2008-11-08 Thread David Robertson
Curt,

I have 2 K2s and both have the KSB2 option.
First, Installing the SSB option and aligning it correctly doesn't reduce the 
K2's effectiveness in the CW mode, in fact it inhances it.
Second, This option opens the door to digital, SSB and sstv communications. 

If your K2 is stock CW then you have to remove the front panel to install the 
mic circuit components which is a pain but easily done.

You will be glad you install this option (even if you don't use SSB).

73
Dave KD1NACompleted K2 s/n 6424 a few months back, am thinking of adding a KSB2 
adapter kit I own.  I've seen several threads indicating that the SSB 
performance of the K2 with the adapter isn't very good.  Would adding this 
capability be worthwhile, or is leaving the K2 as CW only a better option?

73, Curt KB5JO 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 N1MM and the second Band Map

2008-11-08 Thread Enno, PF5X

Hi Berni,

Did you tick the SO1R box in the Config menu ? N1MM explicitly states to do
that instead of SO2V, because (for reasons I do not quite understand) the
K2/3 do not support the SO2V feature.
This also means that your 2nd bandmap can only give you a view of a
different band portion but not of a totally different band.

-- Enno, PF5X


Berni G0IDA wrote:
 
 Guys,
 
 I can't find any where on the reflector the info I need so here is my 
 problem.
 
 I'm using N1MM and I'm trying to get the second band map to work and I 
 can't seem to get it going.
 The second band map is present but does not display VFO-B frequency. 
 N1MM is connected via MicroHam USB to serial converter.
 I do have a second RX in the K3.
 
 Regards,
 
 Berni
 G0IDA
 
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[Elecraft] SignaLink USB and K2

2008-11-08 Thread Jeff Davis, KE9V
Am thinking of ordering a SignaLink USB interface for use with my K2
and wondering if anyone has tried this combo and are there any issues?

Thanks in advance.

73, Jeff KE9V
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RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
My experience is that keying the radio via RS-232 control lines is sometimes
problematic with some logging programs using a multi-tasking operating
systems (like Windows NT and its derivatives), and that problem doesn't
always show up until the log is large and you're late into the contest.  I
find a WinKey to be very convenient.

The K3 does allow a computer program to send CW using K3 commands sent over
the K3's serial port (see the KY command in the K3 Programmer's reference).
However none of the popular contest logging programs support this method of
sending CW.

I'd ask Joe Subich, W4TV, who would know the answer to your question.

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?


Is there any advantage in using a simple microham interface like USB2 or CW
keyer for K3?

It seems that the serial cable can provide both radio control + CW
keying+PTT. The data connection is straight. There are provisions for
separate paddle. Not sure how RTTY would be handled without an interface.

I understand advantages of interfaces in more complex situations like SO2R
or when a single USB connection with the computer is desirable.  


Ignacy

 
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[Elecraft] [K3] Switch Tone Volume

2008-11-08 Thread Roy Morris
I didn't realize the radio had to be in CW mode to change the switch tone 
volume level.  Works great!  Thanks Lyle.  73,  Roy Morris  W4WFB___
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RE: [Elecraft] Firmware updates

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
That's not my experience. Just yesterday I unzipped a the current beta
version into a folder named K3FW2R63 that was a subfolder of My
Documents.   I used the K3 Utility Firmware page Browse button to
navigate to that folder and I loaded the K3 directly from that folder.

 

To download non-beta firmware into a folder of your choice, first create a
folder (perhaps using the Windows Explorer).  Then navigate to that folder
with the K3 Utility's Firmware Page browse function or type in the
location of the folder.   Check the copy files from Elecraft check box and
click Check Versions Now. The K3 Utility should copy all the files into
that folder, whether it's the default folder or not.

 

The K3 Utility doesn't create  a folder for you. If you type in the name of
a folder that doesn't exist, you'll get file write errors during the copy
files phase.  

 

Dick, K6KR

 

 

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I have downloaded many firmware files from Elecraft and found that
downloading the beta files can be downloaded to any folder you desire using
Windows Internet explorer. The non-beta firmware can only be downloaded in
to the defult folder of the Elecraft installer program then later moved into
the desired folder. You don't use the FTP site for non-beta firmware.

 

Installing both beta and non-beta firmware from my own folder is successful.

 

73

Dave KD1NA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Hardware agc mod and S-meter cal

2008-11-08 Thread drewko
Did you post these settings a while back? I know someone did, because
I had copied them into my K3. Only, I have them reversed: 017 and 016
respectively for the first two. It would be interesting to see what
others who are able to do the calibration come up with for these
settings.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:26:51 +, Dave, G4AON wrote:

Stewart I have a fairly good signal generator and didn't give it a 
second thought as to whether doing the HAGC mod to my early K3 (serial 
80) would change the S-Meter. However, the meter does calibrate nicely 
and is accurate when calibrated. I've not re-checked the calibration 
recently, but for what it's worth these are my settings:

SMTR OF: 016
SMTR SC: 017
SMTR OK: OFF
SMTR MD: nor

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 Next generation transceivers will not use crystal filters 
 and mixers, they are already appearing and the performance 
 is outstanding.

If the next generation of transceivers does in fact abandon 
narrow filtering ahead of the ADC it will be a sorry step 
backward.  While some of the designs like the Flex-5000 and 
Peresus have excellent specs for the most part when tested 
against two tone situations, they are still substandard in 
dealing with multiple very strong in-band signals as would 
occur on 160/80/75 meters in a contest or on 40 meters with 
the multiple megapower broadcasters. 

To maintain linearity, an ADC must be able to withstand the 
instantaneous peak signal (vector sum - not average) from 
all the signals within its passband.  For some DSR designs 
that maintain bandwidths from several hundred KHz to 10s 
of MHz that peak signal handling capability requirement 
can be significant and represents a required dynamic range 
orders of magnitude greater than even the best current 
technology.  It is the multi-tone interference that is best 
handled by narrow filtering ahead of the ADC (e.g., the K3 
design).  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 






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 The explanation from the article is as follows:
 
 When noise pulses/spikes pass through a crystal
 filter, the phase response of the filter
 changes, depending on the noise frequency.
 However, when noise pulses/spikes pass
 through an ADC with a linear response, the
 phase response stays the same, because the
 ADC treats them in a linear manner.
 
 While the K3 is SDR, it also includes crystal roofing filters which 
 the Mercury does not. My Perseus SDR (which also operates with a high 
 speed ADC for direct decoding - no crystals or mixers) does deal with 
 noisy signals better than my K3.
 
 Next generation transceivers will not use crystal filters and mixers, 
 they are already appearing and the performance is outstanding.
 
 73 Dave, G4AON
 K3/100 #80
 -
  / SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury 
 receiver and // explain why the SDR sounds better than the 
 K3 (noise through a crystal // filter causing phase 
 changes). / The K3 is also an SDR!
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Bill W4ZV



Dave G4AON wrote:
 
 The explanation from the article is as follows:
 
 When noise pulses/spikes pass through a crystal
 filter, the phase response of the filter
 changes, depending on the noise frequency.
 However, when noise pulses/spikes pass
 through an ADC with a linear response, the
 phase response stays the same, because the
 ADC treats them in a linear manner.
 
 While the K3 is SDR, it also includes crystal roofing filters which 
 the Mercury does not. My Perseus SDR (which also operates with a high 
 speed ADC for direct decoding - no crystals or mixers) does deal with 
 noisy signals better than my K3.
 
 Next generation transceivers will not use crystal filters and mixers, 
 they are already appearing and the performance is outstanding.
 
 73 Dave, G4AON
 

Blocking Dynamic Range (BDR) is the weak link of current SDR receivers
(typically 120-125 dB versus ~140 dB in the K3).  That will remain the weak
link until ADCs with higher resolution that the current 24 bits is exceeded. 
BDR is important in multi-transmitter environments or if you are close to a
neighbor (amateur or commercial BC station) that has very high signal levels
(which trigger ADC front-end protection and thus limit BDR).  

Until the BDR of current generation SDRs is improved, we will not see pure
SDR rigs (without crystal filter front ends) be competitive in contest
environments.  

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 - S Meter funny

2008-11-08 Thread Craig D. Smith
I've seen something similar, Stewart, but on CW.  Haven't investigated fully
yet, but this was occurring on 40 meters during the SS contest last weekend
when I switched the attenuator on and off (without preamp).  I have my S
meter calibrated in the absolute mode.  If I recall correctly, it was
increasing from S1 w/0 att to S3 or S4 with att.  Other than that
indication, the radio received just fine.

73
... Craig  AC0DS


 Situation...
 
 ATT = ON with PRE = ON gives a S 2-3 reading.
 
 Leaving  ATT = ON  and switching PRE=OFF,  the audio noise level
 goes down, however the S meter now gives a S 4-5 reading !
 
 With SMTR MD =nor, everything is as it should be.
 
 Anyone else see this ?
 
 73
 Stewart G3RXQ


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[Elecraft] K3 Navigator Cable For Sale

2008-11-08 Thread Dave Agsten
I have a new Navigator to K3 cable for sale. Also have a 2-Way, 25 pin, 
straight thru, switch box that will allow the Navigator to be switched between 
two radios. I will sell them together or seperately. Please contact me 
off-list. 73 Dave N8AG


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread David Woolley

Dave G4AON wrote:
SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury receiver and 
explain why the SDR sounds better than the K3 (noise through a crystal 
filter causing phase changes).


The K3 is also an SDR!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-Hardware agc mod and S-meter cal

2008-11-08 Thread Dave G4AON
Stewart I have a fairly good signal generator and didn't give it a 
second thought as to whether doing the HAGC mod to my early K3 (serial 
80) would change the S-Meter. However, the meter does calibrate nicely 
and is accurate when calibrated. I've not re-checked the calibration 
recently, but for what it's worth these are my settings:


SMTR OF: 016
SMTR SC: 017
SMTR OK: OFF
SMTR MD: nor

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
--
Have an early K3 here and have just done the hardware agc mod, spurred 
on by cqww ssb a fortnight ago :-)


Mod went super smooth but am wondering about the recommendation to 
recalibrate the s-meter; is it just a precaution or is the s-meter 
guaranteed to be out after the mod? Seems pretty close to me from a 
quick and dirty before/after check with a stable DDS signal source but 
don't have a proper calibrated sig gen to hand.


I'm not an 'S-meter slave' but wondered if I should check it when I have 
the opportunity


73,

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 #145)
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RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 My experience is that keying the radio via RS-232 control lines is
 sometimes
 problematic with some logging programs using a multi-tasking operating
 systems (like Windows NT and its derivatives), and that problem doesn't
 always show up until the log is large and you're late into the contest. 
 

Is the reason for this that the amount of time the program spends dupe
checking increases as the log grows, and this pre-empts the time critical
keying process?

-
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RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Dick's comments are on point.  Simple DTR CW has problems 
and CW Keyer offers both WinKey and a USB interface.  Other 
than USB vs. RS-232, USB Interface II does not offer any value 
added for the K3.   

The situation changes significantly if one is talking about 
digital modes, DVK, contesting, etc. with one of the more 
advanced interfaces. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

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 Dievendorff
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:20 AM
 To: 'Ignacy'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham 
 interfaces?
 
 
 My experience is that keying the radio via RS-232 control 
 lines is sometimes problematic with some logging programs 
 using a multi-tasking operating systems (like Windows NT and 
 its derivatives), and that problem doesn't always show up 
 until the log is large and you're late into the contest.  I 
 find a WinKey to be very convenient.
 
 The K3 does allow a computer program to send CW using K3 
 commands sent over the K3's serial port (see the KY command 
 in the K3 Programmer's reference). However none of the 
 popular contest logging programs support this method of sending CW.
 
 I'd ask Joe Subich, W4TV, who would know the answer to your question.
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ignacy
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:52 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?
 
 
 Is there any advantage in using a simple microham interface 
 like USB2 or CW keyer for K3?
 
 It seems that the serial cable can provide both radio control + CW
 keying+PTT. The data connection is straight. There are provisions for
 separate paddle. Not sure how RTTY would be handled without 
 an interface.
 
 I understand advantages of interfaces in more complex 
 situations like SO2R or when a single USB connection with the 
 computer is desirable.  
 
 
 Ignacy
 
  
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[Elecraft] K2: Various Receive Problems

2008-11-08 Thread Jon Perelstein
I just finished building the K2 and am in process of checking it out.  All 
voltage tests, current tests, power tests, alignment tests and alignment 
activities were completed successfully.  I've been through the receiver 
alignment twice just to make sure, and got good peaking on each band.
 
I'm hitting various receive problems that are just strange and I'm going to 
have a little trouble explaining some of them, so please bear with me.
 
1.  Receive sensitivity is not good.  Using the same antenna, and with AGC on:  
 
o  Without the pre-amp on, the K-2 is nowhere near as sensitive as my K-1, nor 
is it as good as my FT-897 (but the K-1 is better than the FT-897).  
 
o  With the pre-amp on, the K-2 is about as good as the FT-897, but still not 
as good as the K-1.
 
The situation is better with AGC off, as good as or better than the FT-897, but 
still not as good as the K-1.  
 
It seems as if the AGC is having too much impact since I have to crank the AF 
Gain almost all the way clockwise to get decent audio volume with the AGC on 
(both headphones and speaker)?
 
 
2. On receive, stations are either there or not there.
 
In a correctly operating radio, as you tune across a station's signal, the 
signal strength starts out lower and then picks up in strength and volume as 
you reach the station's actual transmit frequency.  Furthermore, if two 
stations are near each other, you typically hear both of them.
 
In this case, if I hear a signal, I hear it at the same volume as I tune across 
the signal's bandwidth.  The perceived signal strength simply does not change.  
The S-Meter does change value, but not the perceived signal strength in the 
headphones or speaker.  
 
Along with this, there is no interference from adjacent signals.  I'm always 
hearing the strongest station and only the strongest station at whatever spot 
that my VFO is tuned to.  Any other stations are simply not there, as if some 
sort of really good DSP has completely eliminated all but the strongest station 
at that point in the VFO (and I mean *completely* eliminated).  As you tune 
across, you can hear the specific point where one station stops being heard and 
a different one starts being heard.
 
I do not have DSP -- this is a bare bones K-2 without noise blanker or anything 
else.  I have AGC turned off.  The problem also appears with AGC on.  In 
addition, it appears in both VFO A and VFO B.  
 
I have the squelch turned off. 
 
I have checked, and I'm in filter 1 and I'm getting the correct readings from 
aligning FIL1.  When I go to FIL2,  there's a similar effect -- except that the 
bandwidth range across which I can hear the signal is much smaller (to be 
expected with a tighter filter).  At FIL3 I can hear only the strongest of 
stations, and then across an extremely narrow signal bandwidth.  Finally, at 
FIL4 I cannot pick up even the strongest signals. 
 
 
3.  As I tune across a CW station's signal, there is no change in audio 
frequency.
 
In a correctly operating radio, as you tune across a CW signal, there is a 
change in the audio frequency of the signal, until you're at zero-beat, at 
which time the audio frequency is whatever you've set your sidetone at.
 
In this case, once I hear a signal, I hear it at the same audio frequency 
across the entire bandwidth of the signal for as long as I'm hearing that 
signal (see problem 2 above).
 
The audio frequency at which I'm hearing the signal is not particularly my 
sidetone frequency.  It seems to be different for each different station, but 
is the same for the same station.  For example, I'm hearing a station at 
14.100.  As I tune across his signal, the audio on his signal is at about 800 
Hz.  As I tune past that (up), I hear another station and I'm hearing the audio 
at something much lower, like about 500 or 600 Hz.  If I keep tuning across the 
dial, I'll hear other stations, each of which may or may not have a different 
audio frequency than 800Hz.  However, if I go back to the station at 14.100, 
I'll again hear him at about 800 Hz and not some other frequency.  I can hear 
this particular station from about 14.099 to about 14.101, and his audio 
frequency does not change as I tune the 2KHz range between .099 and .101
 
I get the same result with SSB signals.  There is no change in the audio, and 
thus most SSB signals are unintelligible because there is no way to tune in on 
the station's actual transmission frequency.  Every so often, an SSB station is 
intelligible, and then no amount of tuning across its bandwidth makes it 
unintelligible.
 
Note that I do not have the SSB module installed, and I'm not sure if I'm 
supposed to be able to hear SSB in a bare-bones K-2 without the SSB module 
installed (although it is my understanding that I should be copy SSB).
 
*
 
I've been through the manual twice and can't find any features that I may have 
inadvertently turned on to get these results.
 
Any suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
 

[Elecraft] Some Basic K2 Opinions and Information

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Huff

Hello everyone,

I'm considering the purchase of a K2 and would appreciate any information and/or 
opinions that you might have.  I'm strictly a QRP guy so I'm not interested in 
the 100-watt version.  I would probably want the internal tuner.  I don't work 
SSB, but PSK is of some interest to me so I'm thinking about the KSB2 option. 
Other than that, since money is definitely an important consideration, I would 
be very interested in opinions about the KIO2 RS232 interface - would it help 
with PSK?  I would also like opinions on the KAF2 filter vs. the KDSP2 DSP 
filter.  My current rig is a K1 so just about anything would be gravy to me - 
I'm not comparing the K2 to some Rolls Royce kind of rig.


Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.

73,
Paul - N8XMS

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[Elecraft] K3 Workshop Registration Closed

2008-11-08 Thread Lyle Johnson

The K3 Northwest Workshop is now full.

The response has been tremendous, and we have nearly 30 people 
registered.  Unfortunately, my lab -- and home -- is limited in size and 
we cannot accommodate more of you.


Thank you for your continuing interest in the K3 and all of our products.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Sold Pending Funds == OT: FS: A.P.E. EX-700 Rework Station - Like New

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Sheldon
The rework station is sold, pending funds.

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RE: [Elecraft] Some Basic K2 Opinions and Information

2008-11-08 Thread Dale Putnam

HI Paul, 
  I enjoy my K2, with about all that you are looking at, the noise blanker does 
its job very nicely on 
ignition noise, and an electric fence, that my horses insist on messing with. 
The rs232 interface hasn't been used
here yet. The  DSP filter is a good addition, especially in the crowded 
conditions of cw at times... especially for continueing the chat, when someone 
moves in a bit too close, because they don't hear as well. And the hearing as 
well is an outstanding feature. I find myself cuddled up to a QRO station, and 
not even know he is that close, until the other station says something.. then I 
open the rx up a bit, and there he is.. especially when I do a side by side 
with other rx, it becomes very very obvious, the filter skirts are better and 
the shape of the bandpass is better than other rx, until you get way up into 
the drool region and that would be right up there with the K3. 
  The one other thing that is a key point... very key.. is that Wayne and Eric, 
and the rest of the Elecraft crew, are very responsive to requests, and the 
expanse of excellant information, very helpful with all the assistance that is 
so missing from other brands... is right here. 
  Jump in, enjoy, and get the best. --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 deminished audio response

2008-11-08 Thread Barry N1EU



N8XPQ wrote:
 
 I am curious if anyone else has noticed that the lower end of the audio
 spectrum from maybe 400hz to 50hz seems to be diminished in the K3. 
 

Yes, compared to some other dsp rigs, the K3's ssb receive passband is a bit
rolled off on the bottom end.  However, by setting shift/FC=1.45Khz and
using RX EQ and filter center freq adjustment, my K3's ssb passband is flat
down to 150hz before rolling off.

73,
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[Elecraft] Switch tone glitch

2008-11-08 Thread drewko
I notice a small glitch with the SPOT switch now that switch tones are
enabled. The switch is a little finicky in that if you tap it very
briefly the spot tone does not activate. You have to dwell on the
switch just a little longer than a quick tap in order to activate
SPOT.

Actually, there is not much point to having a switch tone for
SPOT/PITCH at all.


73,
Drew
AF2Z

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Dave G4AON

The explanation from the article is as follows:

When noise pulses/spikes pass through a crystal
filter, the phase response of the filter
changes, depending on the noise frequency.
However, when noise pulses/spikes pass
through an ADC with a linear response, the
phase response stays the same, because the
ADC treats them in a linear manner.

While the K3 is SDR, it also includes crystal roofing filters which 
the Mercury does not. My Perseus SDR (which also operates with a high 
speed ADC for direct decoding - no crystals or mixers) does deal with 
noisy signals better than my K3.


Next generation transceivers will not use crystal filters and mixers, 
they are already appearing and the performance is outstanding.


73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
-
/ SDR where the authors compare a K3 with a HPSDR Mercury receiver and
// explain why the SDR sounds better than the K3 (noise through a crystal
// filter causing phase changes).
/
The K3 is also an SDR!

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[Elecraft] CW to PSK encoding

2008-11-08 Thread k7ca
Have any of you noticed that when using a cw paddle to send PSK from the K3 a 
few of the translations are not correct.  For example, when sending 1234567890 
from the paddle, the K3 transmits 123 E g w C O9 0.  If I put a space between 
all the numbers, then I get a correct translation.  That wouldn't be too bad, 
except that when ever I send my call k7ca, the K3 sends  k Cca.  Again, if I 
leave a spact between the 7 and c then it comes out ok as k7 ca. I am taking 
the K3 to Chile for a couple of months this winter and thought it might be nice 
to make a few digital qsos without a computer.  73, Al K7CA
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread N8LP

For casual SSB operating I listen to my LP-PAN / PowerSDR panadapter which is
fed from ahead of the xtal filters, and for dabbling in contests or
operating CW (where latency can be an issue) I listen to the K3. I am not in
Europe where things can be dicey, but I have yet to see enough total peak
energy in the passband to affect the ADC of the panadapter.

73,
Larry N8LP





 Next generation transceivers will not use crystal filters 
 and mixers, they are already appearing and the performance 
 is outstanding.

If the next generation of transceivers does in fact abandon 
narrow filtering ahead of the ADC it will be a sorry step 
backward.  While some of the designs like the Flex-5000 and 
Peresus have excellent specs for the most part when tested 
against two tone situations, they are still substandard in 
dealing with multiple very strong in-band signals as would 
occur on 160/80/75 meters in a contest or on 40 meters with 
the multiple megapower broadcasters. 

To maintain linearity, an ADC must be able to withstand the 
instantaneous peak signal (vector sum - not average) from 
all the signals within its passband.  For some DSR designs 
that maintain bandwidths from several hundred KHz to 10s 
of MHz that peak signal handling capability requirement 
can be significant and represents a required dynamic range 
orders of magnitude greater than even the best current 
technology.  It is the multi-tone interference that is best 
handled by narrow filtering ahead of the ADC (e.g., the K3 
design).  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

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[Elecraft] K3 - ATU/Bypass Ant1/Ant2

2008-11-08 Thread David Wilburn
I have recently had the need to use the internal antenna tuner on one 
antenna and to bypass it on the other antenna.  I haven't been able to 
find a way to do this.  I am on the latest beta firmware.  I was under 
the impression that something had been changed in this matter.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - ATU/Bypass Ant1/Ant2

2008-11-08 Thread Julian, G4ILO



David Wilburn wrote:
 
 I have recently had the need to use the internal antenna tuner on one 
 antenna and to bypass it on the other antenna.  I haven't been able to 
 find a way to do this.  I am on the latest beta firmware.  I was under 
 the impression that something had been changed in this matter.
 
No, I'm afraid not. The only way to avoid having to go into the menu to
switch in/out the ATU is to tune it up into a 50 ohm load on that output and
then avoid pressing the ATU TUNE button on that band. Easier said than done
in my case...

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Re: [Elecraft] CW to PSK encoding

2008-11-08 Thread Julian, G4ILO



k7ca wrote:
 
 Have any of you noticed that when using a cw paddle to send PSK from the
 K3 a 
 few of the translations are not correct.  For example, when sending
 1234567890 
 from the paddle, the K3 transmits 123 E g w C O9 0.  If I put a space
 between 
 all the numbers, then I get a correct translation.  That wouldn't be too
 bad, 
 except that when ever I send my call k7ca, the K3 sends  k Cca.  Again, if
 I 
 leave a spact between the 7 and c then it comes out ok as k7 ca. I am
 taking 
 the K3 to Chile for a couple of months this winter and thought it might be
 nice 
 to make a few digital qsos without a computer.  73, Al K7CA
 
No, sorry. Even with my limited paddle operating skills I can send your call
OK, and the numbers, as received via audio using the K3 monitor and another
computer .

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Re: [Elecraft] Some Basic K2 Opinions and Information

2008-11-08 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Paul Huff-3 wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm considering the purchase of a K2 and would appreciate any information
 and/or 
 opinions that you might have.  I'm strictly a QRP guy so I'm not
 interested in 
 the 100-watt version.  I would probably want the internal tuner.  I don't
 work 
 SSB, but PSK is of some interest to me so I'm thinking about the KSB2
 option. 
 Other than that, since money is definitely an important consideration, I
 would 
 be very interested in opinions about the KIO2 RS232 interface - would it
 help 
 with PSK?  I would also like opinions on the KAF2 filter vs. the KDSP2 DSP 
 filter.  My current rig is a K1 so just about anything would be gravy to
 me - 
 I'm not comparing the K2 to some Rolls Royce kind of rig.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
 
 
I found the KIO2 useful for PSK as I'm a great believer in using narrow
filters to get the best reception of weak signals and the software I used
allowed me to center a signal in the passband and select narrow filters
using a click of the mouse. Since I used MixW logging software I had these
features available in CW too.

I never felt the need for the KDSP2 and only had the KAF2 which was all that
was available when I built my K2 in any case. To be honest I never used it
that much and found the 4 choices of filter bandwidths the K2 offers per
mode to be more than adequate.

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Re: [Elecraft] CW to PSK encoding

2008-11-08 Thread Bob Cunnings
What firmware version are you using?

The release notes for version 2.57 include:

PSK31 (PSK D MODE) TRANSMIT IMPROVEMENTS: Eliminated erroneous
characters during CW-to-PSK31 transmit when using the keyer paddle.
Also greatly improved PSK31 transmit speed by removing all extraneous
zeros from the data stream.

I hadn't noticed any erroneous characters myself, just errors of my
own making since the decoder is strict about the timing of morse
elements. The feature has been quite useful for casual contacts when I
don't have the laptop at home or don't want to bother bringing it into
the shack and setting it up for psk31.

Bob NW8L

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Have any of you noticed that when using a cw paddle to send PSK from the K3 a
 few of the translations are not correct.  For example, when sending 1234567890
 from the paddle, the K3 transmits 123 E g w C O9 0.  If I put a space between
 all the numbers, then I get a correct translation.  That wouldn't be too bad,
 except that when ever I send my call k7ca, the K3 sends  k Cca.  Again, if I
 leave a spact between the 7 and c then it comes out ok as k7 ca. I am taking
 the K3 to Chile for a couple of months this winter and thought it might be 
 nice
 to make a few digital qsos without a computer.  73, Al K7CA
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[Elecraft] FM TX Audio Low On Six Meters

2008-11-08 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-

I got this radio almost a month ago and this was the first time I used FM on
six meters. There are stations telling me that my audio is low and I have
the mic gain all the way up. I am using the Elecraft mic (MH2). I am putting
out a pounding signal on FM but but the audio is low. 


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RE: [Elecraft] Some Basic K2 Opinions and Information

2008-11-08 Thread Logan Zintsmaster
I built my K2 several years ago (#1609) and have been very pleased with it.
I do digital modes, PSK  RTTY, almost exclusively and I would recommend the
following

1.  KIO2 - Highly recommended - this provides computer control of
the K2 and integrates your K2 with the software. Wouldn't leave home
without it.

2.  KAT2 - Highly recommended if you are not going to have a tuned
antenna.  I use random wires because of antenna restrictions and have good
luck getting a match.

3.  KAF2  -  I have the KAF2 and do not use it much.  I'd really
like to see the center freq around 1000 Hz for digital modes which can be
done with some component changes.  This mod is still on the to do list so
that gives you an indication of how much I use it.  I'd wait and add this
later (it's easy to do).  Helps with the cash flow, as well.

4.  KDSP2  - Don't have one so I can't offer any help.

5.  KNB2 - The noise blanker is of marginal use in my rf
environment  Others have found it very useful because they had specific
kinds of pulse noise to deal with.  If you get one you need to keep the RF
gain up so that there is enough signal to trigger the blanking.

Remember, most of these modules can be added after you build the K2.  When I
built mine, I checked the manuals for the modules to see what modifications
were necessary to install them.  Any parts that needed to be removed, later,
I installed with extra lead length so they would be easier to take out, when
the time came.

When I built my K2, I got a PWB holder and found it very handy.  There are a
lot of parts to stuff and solder.  Not having to juggle the PWB at the same
time made it that much easier.

Good luck and enjoy the building.
Logan, KZ6O


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Subject: [Elecraft] Some Basic K2 Opinions and Information

Hello everyone,

I'm considering the purchase of a K2 and would appreciate any information
and/or 
opinions that you might have.  I'm strictly a QRP guy so I'm not interested
in 
the 100-watt version.  I would probably want the internal tuner.  I don't
work 
SSB, but PSK is of some interest to me so I'm thinking about the KSB2
option. 
Other than that, since money is definitely an important consideration, I
would 
be very interested in opinions about the KIO2 RS232 interface - would it
help 
with PSK?  I would also like opinions on the KAF2 filter vs. the KDSP2 DSP 
filter.  My current rig is a K1 so just about anything would be gravy to
me - 
I'm not comparing the K2 to some Rolls Royce kind of rig.

Thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.

73,
Paul - N8XMS

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Re: [Elecraft] FM TX Audio Low On Six Meters

2008-11-08 Thread Lyle Johnson


...I am putting out a pounding signal on FM but but the audio is low. 


Try adjusting CONFIG:FM DEV

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Subreceiver Icom 756 Pro II comparison

2008-11-08 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-

I got my K3 almost a month ago and mine had the sub receiver. I had mine put
in at Elecraft but I think I had to wait a month while my radio sat there.
What is happening is that they are being sent out by order. Even though
Elecraft had the sub in house , they could not install and send it out
because everyone had a name on it and I had to wait until my order came in.
Looks like they wanted to play fair.  I know it was frustrating but it is
worth the wait. 



Gil Gibbs wrote:
 
 I'm quite curious, just wondering if the K3 subreceiver modules are 
 beginning to get out to all those whom ordered them? My little K3 rig is 
 looking very pretty, now waiting for my setup of the dipole(s) I have in 
 mind, so a completely rounded out rig will be the best toy to keep my 
 mind focused, learn new tricks. I've been using my IC-756 Pro II rig as 
 a comparison as I built my K2 originally, and the quality of both is 
 incredible. The K3 is an improvement, so I'm going to have a dandy time 
 driving my retired scientist of a sister out of her mind by having to 
 either tell me to put on the headphones while she watches TV, or take 
 off the headphones so she can talk to me!
 The next stage is to get a nice little computer set up so I can do 
 the digital modes, been missing them.
 
 Anyone with any answers about the subreceiver?
 
 Tnx, 73's
 Gil WA5YKK
 
  

 
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Re: [Elecraft] FM TX Audio Low On Six Meters

2008-11-08 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-



Lyle,

If I adjust the FM DEV, does it rob audio from SSB/other bands and do I have
to put it back to where it was once I go into the CONFIG: DEV? 

Lyle Johnson wrote:
 
 
 ...I am putting out a pounding signal on FM but but the audio is low. 
 
 Try adjusting CONFIG:FM DEV
 
 73,
 
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Re: [Elecraft] FM TX Audio Low On Six Meters

2008-11-08 Thread Lyle Johnson

If I adjust the FM DEV, does it rob audio from SSB/other bands and do I have
to put it back to where it was once I go into the CONFIG: DEV? 


CONFIG:FM DEV only affects FM deviation.  It has no (intentional) effect 
on anything else.


73,

Lyle KK7P
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RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Probably.  Any of a number of unexpected task switches cause CW keying to be
interrupted. The ones I can think of are:

1) Virus checker phoning home for a file update.
2) Virus checker starts a file scan.
3) Adobe decides it needs to phone home to check for updates.
4) Apple QuickTime decides it needs to phone home to check for updates.
5) Microsoft Windows Update decides it needs to phone home to check for
updates.
6) Sun Java virtual machine decides it needs to phone home to check for
updates.
7) Real Player decides it needs to phone home to check for updates.
8) Spyware scan starts.
9) Content indexing starts or 
10) Contest log gets large and check partial or rescoring takes more time.


These are mostly activities that can be turned off if you know how to do it
and are vigilant.  After the contest you probably want to turn them back on
again.  I don't always remember and don't always find them all.

So I use a WinKey (in a microHAM box) and all I have to remember to turn off
is the screen saver.

73 de Dick, K6KR




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Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 My experience is that keying the radio via RS-232 control lines is
 sometimes
 problematic with some logging programs using a multi-tasking operating
 systems (like Windows NT and its derivatives), and that problem doesn't
 always show up until the log is large and you're late into the contest. 
 

Is the reason for this that the amount of time the program spends dupe
checking increases as the log grows, and this pre-empts the time critical
keying process?

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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Barry Pfeil
Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such functions 
could be added to the list of wanted improvements?  As a minimum I'd like to 
be able to program a button (e.g., PF2) to toggle the EQ on and off. I can 
live with turning one knob to disable the COMP but the EQ is obviously 
much more difficult to disable or restore.  Anybody else out there agree?  
Thanks,
Barry, K6RM

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From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP  EQ?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM

 As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, 
 menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than 
 returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] Using KXV3 with Kenwood SM230

2008-11-08 Thread Ken Widelitz
The Kenwood SM-230 has an input center frequency of 8.830 Mhz. The KXV3's IF
OUT is 8.215 Mhz.

Not surprisingly, I see signals on the SM-230, but can't find them on the
K3.

How do I resolve this discrepancy?

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT


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RE: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I'm not exactly sure of the timing requirements, but sending well-formed CW
at 30+ words per minute requires timer resolutions in the low numbers of
millisecond range.  This can be done with high resolution timers (introduced
for multi-media), but you need to have the process priority right so that
the program that is turning the serial port (or parallel port) control lines
on and off can get control within a very few milliseconds of the desired
time.  Often higher priority things like disk I/O interrupt handlers and
programs that are I/O intensive can keep control away from the (user
priority) program doing CW long enough to cause grief.  Disk I/O from paging
in programs is often a higher priority task than any user-mode program.

I've seen some low-level device driver level solutions (I recall N6TV wrote
one for OS/2) that can get close, but this isn't the way that the popular
logging programs do it.

I'd recommend a WinKey.  Standalone it costs a few tens of dollars (the
basic K1EL Winkeyer2 serial is only $36), and if you're into contesting at
all you'll find that it eliminates a problem that can cause great
consternation at really unfortunate times.   

I use microHAM products that incorporate WinKey chips.  They work quite well
for me.

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Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 My experience is that keying the radio via RS-232 control lines is
 sometimes
 problematic with some logging programs using a multi-tasking operating
 systems (like Windows NT and its derivatives), and that problem doesn't
 always show up until the log is large and you're late into the contest. 
 

Is the reason for this that the amount of time the program spends dupe
checking increases as the log grows, and this pre-empts the time critical
keying process?

-
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Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink USB and K2

2008-11-08 Thread R. Kevin Stover

I'm using it right now.
I use it in Windows with MixW, HRD/DM780 and Linux with FlDigi.
No problems what-so-ever.
My K2 has been modified for a constant audio output using the board 
produced by Tom, N0SS.


Jeff Davis, KE9V wrote:

Am thinking of ordering a SignaLink USB interface for use with my K2
and wondering if anyone has tried this combo and are there any issues?

Thanks in advance.

73, Jeff KE9V



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RE: [Elecraft] [K3] Switch Tone Volume

2008-11-08 Thread Don Nesbitt
Unfortunately the CW sidetone will also be at the same level and when
switching from speaker to headphones this can get a bit overwhelming!

Sure would be nice to be able to set the volume of each independently or did
I miss something?  '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3/100/KRX3 #83

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 I would like to know how the MONitor level is used to change the switch 
 tone volume...

Go to CW mode, press the CMP|PWR|MON knob until MON is displayed in VFO 
B and adjust the level.

Switch tones will be at that level.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread e72x

I agree
Permanently disable in menu compressor and monitor for my opinion will be
nice.. 

regards,
E72X,


Barry Pfeil wrote:
 
 Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such
 functions could be added to the list of wanted improvements?  As a
 minimum I'd like to be able to program a button (e.g., PF2) to toggle
 the EQ on and off. I can live with turning one knob to disable the COMP
 but the EQ is obviously much more difficult to disable or restore. 
 Anybody else out there agree?  Thanks,
 Barry, K6RM
 
 --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP  EQ?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM
 
 As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, 
 menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than 
 returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.
 
 Correct.
 
 73,
 
 Lyle KK7P
 
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[Elecraft] Q re Missing K3 Kit part

2008-11-08 Thread Grant Youngman


I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8 nylon standoff that gets mounted  
on the DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide some spacing  
from the front panel board.


While I wait for Elecraft to see my email on Monday and send the part,  
anyone know if this is a show stopper, or if I can proceed and come  
back around and install this after the fact?


Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T


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Re: [Elecraft] Q re Missing K3 Kit part

2008-11-08 Thread Jeff Wandling W7BRS

It's not a show stopper.

It just helps you provide a little extra pressure as you push the FP to 
the RF board.  It's nylon, it doesn't make a connection so there's no 
apparent impact to the circuit.


I didn't have the stand off either in my kit SN 2105.  I managed to use my 
finger to push the DSP board (tight squeeze) as I sandwiched the FP+DSP 
onto the RF board.  You have to be careful not to flex the boards.


It'll go.  The connectors on the RF board to the FP will mate easier than 
you think.


Be careful, but it's not a show stopper.

Of course, Elecraft may have a different answer...

-jeff


On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Grant Youngman wrote:



I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8 nylon standoff that gets mounted on the 
DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide some spacing from the 
front panel board.


While I wait for Elecraft to see my email on Monday and send the part, anyone 
know if this is a show stopper, or if I can proceed and come back around and 
install this after the fact?


Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T


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Re: [Elecraft] Q re Missing K3 Kit part

2008-11-08 Thread Grant Youngman

Thanks.

After looking more closely, I realized that the standoff just provides  
extra stiffening at the connector.  I found a hex nylon standoff in my  
junk box, that works perfectly.  It's was threaded 6-32, but it's a  
snug enough fit without being screwed in place once the DSP board is  
mounted.


Onward and upward .. :)

Grant/NQ5T

On Nov 8, 2008, at 2:00 PM, Jeff Wandling W7BRS wrote:


It's not a show stopper.

It just helps you provide a little extra pressure as you push the FP  
to the RF board.  It's nylon, it doesn't make a connection so  
there's no apparent impact to the circuit.





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[Elecraft] Soundcard for LP Pan

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Maddock
I am considering getting the N8LP LP pan - My K3 already
has the transverter board - what is everyone running
for a sound card - N8LP list several - sure would like some
input!  Also how long does it take to assemble the LP-Pan
kit

Thanks and 73,

Bill N4ZI  k
K3 #1059


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 05:52:28 -0800 (PST), Ignacy wrote:

Is there any advantage in using a simple microham interface like USB2 or 
CW keyer for K3?

For five years of serious contesting, I've never used anything more 
complicated than a serial cable and breakout of DTR through an NPN to the 
key jack to send CW. I've used this with WriteLog and N1MM with a K2, K3, 
TS850, Omni V, FT1000MP, and IC746 with no problems in a SINGLE RADIO 
setup. The computers I use have REAL serial ports, not USB-derived ports. 
One has no built-in serial port, so I use ports from a Quantech PCMCIA 
card, which act like real serial ports. 

The K3 has the advantage of not needing the NPN -- you use a menu 
selection to tell the K3 to get CW from DTR and it does it internally. 

You can also plug a paddle into a K3 to send live. The K2 manual shows 
how you can use diodes to feed both a computer and a paddle into the 
keying input. Most other radios don't allow both computer keying and 
paddle keying, so I use an outboard keyer and diodes to isolate the 
computer keying from the keyer.  

The manner in which WriteLog and N1MM send CW causes problems with SO2R 
(single operator, two radios) operation using this simple setup, and is a 
good reason for using something like WinKey, which with software that 
supports it can switch CW between two radios. Most popular contesting 
software does. 

For SSB contesting, I'm successfully using N1MM and the stereo out of my 
sound card to drive two radios, with VOX doing TX/RX switching. My live 
mic goes to the input of the sound card, and N1MM switches both the live 
mic and message playback to left or right radio. To listen, I have a 
headphone Y-cable that gets left ear from one radio and right ear from the 
other, and use audio gain controls on the two radios to pick where I want 
to listen. 

The nice thing about fancier SO2R boxes is that they give you more control 
of what you're listening to. Also, USB to serial converters are 
notoriously flaky (CW problems, control problems, crashing computer 
problems), so having one that is known to work is a BIG plus. Another big 
plus for the Microham stuff is the high level of support that Joe Subich 
provides. 

For details of what I'm doing and various ways of doing it on the 
cheap,  

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf  and 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73,

Jim Brown K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Various Receive Problems

2008-11-08 Thread L. D. Ingram

Jon,

I wonder if you are tuning at the fastest rate - at that rate the 
signals would seem to jump in and out as you are describing and since 
they would not be in the center of the filter passband most of the 
time it might explaing the seeming lack of sensitivity.


Larry Ingram  AG4NN

At 11:06 AM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
I just finished building the K2 and am in process of checking it 
out.  All voltage tests, current tests, power tests, alignment tests 
and alignment activities were completed successfully.  I've been 
through the receiver alignment twice just to make sure, and got good 
peaking on each band.


I'm hitting various receive problems that are just strange and I'm 
going to have a little trouble explaining some of them, so please bear with me.




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[Elecraft] K3 cw to psk

2008-11-08 Thread k7ca
Before sending the previous email about K3 cw to psk conversion errors, I had 
just downloaded the latest K3 software using the K3 utility software.  I 
thought I had the latest software since there is no mention of beta software on 
the K3 utility firmware loading page.  But thanks to a few astute readers I 
realized that the fix for this problem should be in the newest beta software 
which I was able to download (MCU 2.63 DSP 1.95)  and it did fix this problem.  
The K3 just keeps getting better.  Thanks Al K7CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Ignacy



For five years of serious contesting, I've never used anything more 
complicated than a serial cable and breakout of DTR through an NPN to the 
key jack to send CW. 

Seems it may work. I have 2 Microham boxes and they work fine. I am just
trying to find out whether one can reduce the box and cable count especially
when oprtating portable.

Also, USB to serial converters are 
notoriously flaky (CW problems, control problems, crashing computer 
problems), so having one that is known to work is a BIG plus. 

Many new laptops do not have serial ports. Are there any USB/serial adapters
that are reliable for CW?

Another big 
plus for the Microham stuff is the high level of support that Joe Subich 
provides. 

No question about that; Joe explained a few problems that I had in no
time...

Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: [Elecraft] Soundcard for LP Pan

2008-11-08 Thread Bill W4ZV



Bill Maddock-2 wrote:
 
 I am considering getting the N8LP LP pan - My K3 already
 has the transverter board - what is everyone running
 for a sound card - N8LP list several - sure would like some
 input!  Also how long does it take to assemble the LP-Pan
 kit
 
 Thanks and 73,
 
 Bill N4ZI 
 

Bill the answer about which sound card is: It depends...  There's a good
summary of sound cards by N8LP himself here:

http://www.telepostinc.com/soundcards.html

There's also a very active LP-PAN list at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LP-PAN/

I didn't build my unit (pre-assembled beta unit) but I believe it would only
take a few hours. 

73,  Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] Does K2 benefit from simple Microham interfaces?

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:12:14 -0800 (PST), Ignacy wrote:

I am just trying to find out whether one can reduce the box and cable 
count especially when oprtating portable.

The point of my long email is that YES, nothing more than a GOOD serial 
interface and good contesting software will do anything you need on a 
K3 for CW, and all you need to add for SSB or RTTY are the audio 
cables. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] attn: K3 HF DX contesters using N1MM

2008-11-08 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Please contact me off line.  I would like to chat.

Thanks,
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Erik N Basilier
Barry, I agree with you. In voice modes it would be very helpful to be able to 
switch receive and or transmit eq in and out with a button press.
Such a capability would also be a quick fix for my problem of inadvertent 
equalization in data modes. 
Potentially, equalization save/restore is a complicated issue because one may 
want to store several different settings, maybe tied to modes.
So I can understand if Elecraft wants to explore related issues before giving 
us something that may have to be replaced later.
However, just maybe there is enough justification for in the long run 
implementing both a quick off/on pushbutton capability and saving/restoring 
multiple settings. If so, the one could be implemented independently from the 
other. The simple on/off would, as you suggest, be tied to front panel 
buttons. The saving and restoring of settings could live under the MAIN menu 
where the equalization settings already live. Since it takes time and effort to 
determine one's personal settings, I wouldn't mind having my library of eq 
settings defined in the Elecraft Utility as one or more settings per mode and 
downloaded to the radio. Each setting, regardless of mode, would be given a 
name and be usable with any mode. The Main Menu would show the current settings 
like now (modifiable from the radio like now), but also show the list of named 
settings, that could be made active, affecting only the mode in effect when the 
selection is made. After a computer-saved-and-named setting is made current in 
the radio/mode, it could again be modified in the radio, and possibly re-saved 
in the radio (and uploadable to the computer), but creation of a named setting 
(menu selection in the radio) could only be done on the computer. Just ideas...

73,
Erik K7TV
  - Original Message - 
  From: Barry Pfeil 
  To: Lyle Johnson 
  Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 12:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP  EQ?


Thanks, Lyle. Well, in that case, could I respectfully ask if such 
functions could be added to the list of wanted improvements?  As a minimum 
I'd like to be able to program a button (e.g., PF2) to toggle the EQ on and 
off. I can live with turning one knob to disable the COMP but the EQ is 
obviously much more difficult to disable or restore.  Anybody else out there 
agree?  Thanks,
Barry, K6RM

--- On Fri, 11/7/08, Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP  EQ?
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:00 PM


 As far as I can tell, there appears to be no ON/OFF function (button, 
 menu, etc.) for the compression and equalization on the K3 other than 
 returning the respective controls to zero settings.  Is that true?.

Correct.

73,

Lyle KK7P
 



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Re: [Elecraft] Using KXV3 with Kenwood SM230

2008-11-08 Thread Fern Rivard
Ken:
You'll have to tweek the oscillator in the SM-230 to center the incoming 
signals  in the centre of the passband of the I F .  Fern


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The Kenwood SM-230 has an input center frequency of 8.830 Mhz. The KXV3's IF
OUT is 8.215 Mhz.

Not surprisingly, I see signals on the SM-230, but can't find them on the
K3.

How do I resolve this discrepancy?

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT


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[Elecraft] Katie - not a bribe

2008-11-08 Thread Benson

Who is this Katie person and does she like chocolate?  ;)

Oh, Happy Dance. Oh, Happy Dance. A Katie-Gram for me!!!

Benson, K4GST
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[Elecraft] K3 - S Meter funny

2008-11-08 Thread Mike Scott
Situation...

ATT = ON with PRE = ON gives a S 2-3 reading.

Leaving  ATT = ON  and switching PRE=OFF,  the audio noise level  
goes down, however the S meter now gives a S 4-5 reading !

With SMTR MD =nor, everything is as it should be.

Anyone else see this ?

Nope, S3 with any combination of ATT or PRE when in Abs mode

I have however gone through an S-Meter calibration using the XGC2 signal
source and perhaps that made a difference. 


Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311


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Re: [Elecraft] PF-RX EQ setting on K3

2008-11-08 Thread Bill NY9H
abt a month ago I wrote a long response  on why not a parametric eq 
for cw ???  but trashed it .


for cw would not a parametric implementation be better than the 
graphic audio eq ?

or is that already happening in the dsp ???

bill




At 02:28 PM 11/7/2008, Igor Sokolov wrote:
In fact digi setting can also be different. May be saving EQ 
settings along with other settings as profile in M1-M4 would be 
handy. Rec button could be used for resetting to default.


73, Igor UA9CDC

For CW reception of weak 160m DX, I recently tried tweaking up the 
RX EQ so that the sidetone frequency is enhanced and other 
frequencies are attenuated. I think this works quite well as a 
primitive extra audio filter. While the settings are great for CW, 
they are no good (obviously) for speech. Does anyone know if such a 
home brew AF filter CW response curve setting could be stored 
using say PF1 button, and then be reset to a flat response using 
say PF2? Otherwise it gets fiddly and time-consuming to keep 
tweaking each of the eight filter frequencies.


This would be handy

73 Geoff G3XGC
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[Elecraft] K3 Filters, Shift Control and RTTY

2008-11-08 Thread Ron Kenwood
I have been playing in the WAE RTTY contest. I am mainly using the 250Hz 
roofing filter with DSP bandwidth at 300 Hz. I occasionally use the 
1.8kHz filter with DSP set at about 500 Hz. In either configuration, I 
find that I have to use the shift control to center signals in the 
bandpass. Not sure if this is a hardware or software thing, but in any 
case, I have two issues. One is that the minimum shift value is too 
large to accomplish what I want to do at the narrow bandwidth, and when 
I try to use the dual bandpass filter it appears that shift is disabled.


Am I missing something(highly likely), or do I have to request that 
changes be added to the wish list?



Ron W3ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Bill Coleman N2BC
There has been much chatter about the K3 EQ lately.  I've written a small 
Windows application that helps to 'manage' the equalizers.  This is a work in 
progress, and I'm not much of a programmer.  You should take this to mean: 
Caveat Emptor!

The application is being used by about 20 people now and I'm chasing a couple 
bugs.

1) It does not behave well when access to the K3 is via N8LP's LP-Bridge.  This 
is NOT an LP-Bridge issue.  There is no direct way to read the EQ settings 
other than simulating button presses and reading the VFO B area.  The problem 
is that the EQ setting displayed on VFO B only appears momentarily and is then 
replaced with the 'label' for the EQ band.  Because LP-Bridge is polling the 
K3, my app will sometimes miss the data.

2) The app is written in MS Visual Basic 2008 and requires ,NET Framework 2.0 
or later.   If your system does not have 2.0, it will be downloaded from 
Microsoft.  While this is not in and of itself a problem, I do have one user 
that is having difficulty that looks like a problem in the Framework - 
something that may well be beyond my capability to resolve.

You can peek at the application and download it here:  
http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm

I'm looking for ideas for impovement - some are proposed on the subsequent web 
page.  I am in the process of improving the overall communications error 
handling, improving the documentation, and looking at other ways to store the 
EQ settings.  No timetable for these as yet.

If this little utility is a help, great!  I would prefer that any 
communications regarding the program not be on the Elecraft reflector, but 
rather direct to me.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

THX  73,   Bill  N2BC



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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Barry N1EU



Bill Coleman  N2BC wrote:
 
 You can peek at the application and download it here: 
 http://home.roadrunner.com/~n2bc/SW.htm
 

FYI Bill, your page doesn't render well in IE7 because of its difficulty
with the screen.png image file

73,
Barry N1EU 

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[Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread James Duffey

Bill - You wrote:

...we will not see pure SDR rigs (without crystal filter front ends)  
be competitive in contest environments.


KM0T is 100% software defined radio with Flex 1000s:

http://www.km0t.com/pages/sdr.htm


and routinely finishes in the top 10 in his category:


http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/2008/junvhf.pdf 


and often wins his category:


 http://www.arrl.org/contests/results/2007/uhf.pdf 


He credits much of his success to the SDR.

I realize that this is not the specific environment you are talking  
about.


The blocking dynamic range of the Flex 5000 is not superb, but it is  
certainly good. It compares well to the K2 as an example. - Dr.  
Megacycle KK6MC/5

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters, Shift Control and RTTY

2008-11-08 Thread Lyle Johnson

... when I try to use the dual bandpass filter it
appears that shift is disabled.


The dual bandpass filter for RTTY is preset to one of four tone pairs 
which you select by using the PITCH function when in DATA:AFSK A or 
DATA:FSK D modes.


73,

Lyle KK7P
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[Elecraft] 2nd KatieGram received

2008-11-08 Thread Doug Joyce
For those who are keeping track -

I ordered a K3 (including the KRX3) at Dayton and the first KatieGram was 
received on 9th Sept.  Since the KRX3 was shown as on back order I asked Katie 
to delay shipment until the KRX3 could be included and was told that would 
delay my complete order by about 2 months.

The 2nd KatieGram arrived on the 6th Nov indicating that my complete order 
(except for the DVR) would now be shipped in one to two weeks- right on 
schedule.

73,  Doug   VE3MV

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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Barry N1EU
It will work for some IE7 users, but not all and probably won't work
at all in IE6.  Just Google .png IE7

Works fine in Firefox.

73,
Barry N1EU

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 12:25 AM, Jim Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 looks good here in ie7.

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Re: [Elecraft] Katie - not a bribe

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Hoge

Have you seen the shirts that say Mom likes me best? My shirt should say Katie 
likes me best, hi. Here's to a speedy delivery!
 
Jim W5QM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs. HPSDR Mercury receiver

2008-11-08 Thread Bill W4ZV


James R. Duffey wrote:

I realize that this is not the specific environment you are talking  
about.

Correct.  VHF Contests and HF Contests are two entirely different animals. 
I honestly don't know of *any* serious (i.e. Top Ten class) HF contesters
that use SDRs.  However I expect quite a few will be using K3s with LP-PAN,
either with Skimmer in Assisted or waterfall-only in Unassisted categories.  

73,  Bill
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[Elecraft] Open Pot on 52.450 mhz

2008-11-08 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-

I have what sounds like an open mic inside the radio on 52.450 mhz. It
actually sounds like a open mic inside the radio and when I tap on the top,
I can hear feedback. Then if I talk into the grill on the top of the
radio, I can hear my voice in feedback. I want to make this clear that the
TX is not transmitting and I am receiving static/noise on that frequency. I
can hear an open mic when my receiver is wide open. Any way to resolve this
issue. So far, I don't use that frequency for anything but it would be nice
resolve it. 
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 vs HPSDR Mercury

2008-11-08 Thread Steve Ireland
G'day 

 

I have been using an Elecraft K3 for about a month now, which is the best
performing superhetrodyne/analogue transceiver (with a great DSP back-end)
that I have ever used.  Once I got the filtering and DSP adjusted right, in
terms of pulling weak signals out of noise it was clearly better than my
previous FT-1000.  

 

I also have a working HPSDR Mercury digital down conversion (DDC) SDR
receiver (the Mercury receiver board plus the Ozy communications interface)
which use with the PowerSDR software.  For those not familiar with SDRs, the
DDC type effectively convert radio signals from analog to digital at the
antenna socket, using an analog to digital converter. 

 

Mercury has a Blocking Dynamic Range of 119dB, which is basically
independent of frequency spacing

 

When it comes to pulling weak signals out of noise, on the basis of A/B
testing that I've done, weak signals almost lost in noise are easier to
understand and less tiring to listen to (more of the latter in a minute) on
Mercury than on the K3. 

 

I am not an engineer, but a scientific journalist by profession and a CW and
contest operator with some 37 years 'on the clock' as a radio amateur. I
have been using SDRs for about three years (and am the co-author of the SDR
column in the Radio Society of Great Britain's RadCom with my friend Phil,
VK6APH who is an engineer and one of the main designers of the HPSDR). I
clearly have a personal interest in SDR, but until I started using them was
extremely skeptical about their performance.

 

My understanding why the HPSDR sounds better to me than the K3 (and others
who have witnessed the comparative tests) relates to the crystal filtering
that the latter - and other analogue HF receivers - use.  

 

As many on this reflector will know, when noise pulses/spikes pass through a
crystal filter, the phase response of the filter changes, depending on the
noise frequency.  However, when noise pulses/spikes pass through an ADC with
a linear response - such as the LTC2208 that Mercury uses - the phase
response stays the same, because the ADC treats them in a linear manner.

 

What happens in practice is that on the DDC SDR any 'noise' actually sounds
mellow and easy-on-the-ear (!), in a manner that has to be heard to be
believed.  In the case of an analogue radio like the K3, it seems that even
one stage of crystal filtering is enough to cause a phase response to noise
that eventually irritates/tires the user (certainly in my case) and makes
them want to switch the radio off.

 

I love using the K3 and find it an absolutely brilliant radio, but am
looking forward to putting together a HPSDR transceiver to take advantage of
the way a DDC SDR receiver deals with noise.  Whether top ten contesters
find DDC SDRs to their taste will be interesting to see, but as a 160m CW
DXer with over 220 countries confirmed, as far as I am concerned they are
the way ahead.

 

Incidentally, I think both the Flex SDR-1000 and FLEX-5000 are QSD-type
SDRs, rather than DDCs.

 

Vy 73

 

Steve Ireland, VK6VZ

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 beat FW 2.63

2008-11-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Fred,

I am not certain what browser you are using, but I just tried it with 
Firefox.
I went to http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm and clicked on the 
links - I ended with a zip file that I could have saved on my computer.  
So from my end, the website and the FTP site are working fine.


73,
Don W3FPR

cloud runner wrote:

Can not download it ???
 
If I click on the link, I am taken to a loaction that shows the 2.63 
zip file.
 
If I click on the zip file, I am taken to an *_empty_* index labeled;
 



  Index of ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/k3fw2r63.zip/

 
The actual address of the link is given as:
 
http://www.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta
 
But if I put that in my browser, I get 404, page does not exist.
 
Que Pasa?
 
Fred - kt5x
 
K3 # 0144



  

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[Elecraft] K3 beat FW 2.63

2008-11-08 Thread cloud runner
Can not download it ???

If I click on the link, I am taken to a loaction that shows the 2.63 zip file.

If I click on the zip file, I am taken to an empty index labeled;

Index of ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/k3fw2r63.zip/

The actual address of the link is given as:

http://www.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta

But if I put that in my browser, I get 404, page does not exist.

Que Pasa?

Fred - kt5x

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Re: [Elecraft] Q re Missing K3 Kit part

2008-11-08 Thread Grant Youngman



I'm missing one lousy part -- a 5/8 nylon standoff that gets  
mounted on the DSP board (assembly errata E-7, item 3) to provide  
some spacing from the front panel board.



Thanks to everyone who responded to this query.  The issue is resolved.

Just got the covers installed, and I'm about to power up and start  
setup and calibration :)


Grant/NQ5T

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[Elecraft] K2 upgrade to B

2008-11-08 Thread John
Hello all.
I am building a K2 that was first purchased in 1999.
I have upgrades for it to bring it up to date.
My problem is with mounting the difuser.
Page 78 in the revision G manual.
It says to install two 3/4 inch spacers under the difuser (which will be 
removed after soldering the LED leads), which I cannot locate in the parts.
Where can they be located?  
Thanks for any help.
73.
John.

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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Jim Miller
looks good here in ie7.

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Various Receive Problems

2008-11-08 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Jon Perelstein wrote:




1.  Receive sensitivity is not good.  Using the same antenna, and with 
AGC on: 


The K2 is somewhat short on overall gain.  However that is not the same 
as receiver sensitivity, which is related to noise, rather than gain. 
Sensitivity is the minimum signal that will exceed the internally 
generated noise.


 
It seems as if the AGC is having too much impact since I have to crank 
the AF Gain almost all the way clockwise to get decent audio volume with 
the AGC on (both headphones and speaker)?


R1 adjusts the AGC threshold.
 
 
2. On receive, stations are either there or not there.
 

See below.

Along with this, there is no interference from adjacent signals.  I'm 
always hearing the strongest station and only the strongest station at 


That's good. If there were a way of achieving that which wasn't being 
used, it would be considered a fault.  There is no capture effect with 
SSB, so the only way of achieving this is good selectivity and good IMD 
performance.


smaller (to be expected with a tighter filter).  At FIL3 I can hear 
only the strongest of stations, and then across an extremely narrow

 signal bandwidth. Finally, at FIL4 I cannot pick up even the strongest
 signals.

Note that FL1,2,3,4 are selections from a memory.  You need to set 
sensible filter parameters for each of these.


3.  As I tune across a CW station's signal, there is no change in audio 
frequency.


Combined with (1), this indicates that the reference oscillator 
frequency isn't being modified.  You should be able to confirm this by 
using the frequency counter on it.


However, there is an explicit check for this during the assembly process 
and the VFO calibration would fail if it wasn't working.  I don't know 
what happens if you never run the calibration.


 
Note that I do not have the SSB module installed, and I'm not sure if 
I'm supposed to be able to hear SSB in a bare-bones K-2 without the SSB 
module installed (although it is my understanding that I should be 
copy SSB).


You do not need the SSB module to receive SSB, and, in fact, if you use 
the standard SSB setup, FL3 and FL4 settings on SSB do not use the SSB 
module for receive.



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Re: [Elecraft] No On/Off for COMP EQ?

2008-11-08 Thread Erik N Basilier

Works fine here! (Vista 32 bit, IE7)
Definitely useful, but doesn't prevent me from forgetting to change eq when 
I change modes.


Thanks,
Erik K7TV

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looks good here in ie7.

jim ab3cv



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[Elecraft] Squelch K3

2008-11-08 Thread Bernd Wendpaap
Please advise if there are any plans to provide the squelch feature on SSB
for the K3?
73
HS0ZIK VK6WO SA6AZG
K3 #0298--
Bernd Wendpaap
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[Elecraft] Firing up K3 SN 2051 -Help

2008-11-08 Thread Randy Cook
I got some time last weekend, and a bit this week, and s/n 2051 is  
alive.  Assembly was relatively easy, and 98% of the manual is spot - 
on, so I am very satisfied.  The firmware download worked on my Mac  
the first time and MacloggerDX connected immediately after I set the  
correct baud rate in the K3 and hooked up a cheap eBay USB to serial  
cable.


I do have an issue, and would ask the group for help. I will call  
Elecraft again on Monday, but hopefully it is minor and I can resolve  
tomorrow.


All tests went well. I walked though all the settings in Config and  
Menu. When I did the initial Transmitter Gain test with 5 watts, the  
'dummy load' I made turned out to have a lot of reactance.After a  
quick call to Elecraft, I made a new load, tested it on a simple  
antenna analyzer, (MJF 239) and it was 50.4 ohms/no reactance across  
the ham bands. I then re-did the Transmitter Gain at 5 watts, and got  
1.0-1 across all bands.


So far so good.  I used a Yaseu MD-100 mic into the rear mic input,  
set the appropriate menu (rear input, no bias, mic low). I am now  
doing the Transmitter Setup on page 26.  I configured the xtal via the  
K3 utility.  OK.


I cannot transmit audio.   The Voice Monitoring setup works, and I can  
adjust the MON function and hear audio in the speaker and the  
headphones, so the Mic works. When I go to Mic Gain and Compression  
Settings,  I cannot get any CMP or ALC indications on my meter.   If I  
transmit, the TX light is on, the resistors get a bit warm, but  
nothing indicated on the SW or RF meter and nothing on CMP or ALC  
meters.  It is if the modulation doesn't work.  I tested it on 40m  
LSB. Nothing.


Any ideas?

73


Randy Cook
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[Elecraft] Suggestion To Elecraft

2008-11-08 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-

Can you make the TX symbol bigger when we take the radio off air to test
the audio? When the TX is blinking fast it's hard to see and I have to
look twice to see if I am not transmitting. 
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[Elecraft] K3 beat FW 2.63

2008-11-08 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The name is case-sensitive.  ?k3? is not the same as ?K3?.

 

You have the wrong URL.  ftp.elecraft .com is not the same as
www.elecraft.com

 

Try navigating to ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta, not
ftp://www.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta.

 

Right click on k3fw2r62.zip in the directory listing, and choose ?save
target as? and choose a folder to save your zip file.

 

73 de

Dick, K6KR

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cloud runner
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:08 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 beat FW 2.63

 

Can not download it ???

 

If I click on the link, I am taken to a loaction that shows the 2.63 zip
file.

 

If I click on the zip file, I am taken to an empty index labeled;

 


Index of ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/firmware/beta/k3fw2r63.zip/


 

The actual address of the link is given as:

 

http://www.elecraft.com/k3/firmware/beta

 

But if I put that in my browser, I get 404, page does not exist.

 

Que Pasa?

 

Fred - kt5x

 

K3 # 0144

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[Elecraft] K3 AF audio problems

2008-11-08 Thread Scott Avery
Hello All,

Today, I was enjoying working some DX etc.
All the sudden the AF audio out of my external speaker was all distorted and 
cracking up.
If I advance the AF gain past 12 O'clock distortion happens on the external  
internal speaker.
The Phone output is ok and not affected. Sounds normal at full volume, but NOT 
main speaker!
When changing the audio gain parameter in menu from high to low, no distortion, 
but the same as 12 O'clock position on AF gain.
Also, When powering up, sometimes the main speaker will not work, but phones do.
If I cycle the power to the K3, Sometimes, when audio set above 12 O'clock, the 
audio will sound good for a split
second, then the radio backs off the audio automatically, and sounds like crap.

Currently running latest beta software. Did revert back to older software, but 
no change.

Any help appreciated!

73, Scott WA6LIE
K3 #1993
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: Various Receive Problems

2008-11-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Jon,

At first glance it might seem as though your problem may be simply that 
there is too much AGC.  Turn the AGC Threshold down to 3.6 volts as a 
starter - but I seriously doubt this is the problem, so set the AGC 
threshod down anyway as a starter just to get that out of the way.


The most significant item is your statement that you hear the signals 
with a constant pitch.  That tells me that you may have a PLL/VCO 
problem and the VCO is not actually on the correct frequency.  Check the 
VCO frequency at the low end of each band against the chart at the lower 
left corner of the Schematic Key sheet in Appendix B of the manual.  To 
check the VFO frequency, put the internal probe into TP1 and tune to the 
low end of each band - then in the menu select CAL FCTR to read the VCO 
frequency.  If it differs from the chart by more than 0.040 KHz, you 
have a VCO/PLL problem.  Re-check the PLL range as a first response if 
this is the case.


You could also have a situation where your CAL PLL run was not done 
correctly - put the K2 bottom panel in place and re-run the CAL PLL routine.


If you have rework eliminators in place or have changed C71 to allow for 
the K60XV installation, you must enter the secondary menu and set D19 to 
Yes.  Failure to do so will create the problem that you state on 40 meters.


If these things do not help, ask again, and prepare yourself for Receive 
Signal Tracing as described in Appendix E of the K2 manual (build the 
oscillator and the RF Probe).


73,
Don W3FPR



Jon Perelstein wrote:
I just finished building the K2 and am in process of checking it out.  
All voltage tests, current tests, power tests, alignment tests and 
alignment activities were completed successfully.  I've been through 
the receiver alignment twice just to make sure, and got good peaking 
on each band.
 
I'm hitting various receive problems that are just strange and I'm 
going to have a little trouble explaining some of them, so please bear 
with me.
 
1.  Receive sensitivity is not good.  Using the same antenna, and with 
AGC on: 
 
o  Without the pre-amp on, the K-2 is nowhere near as sensitive as my 
K-1, nor is it as good as my FT-897 (but the K-1 is better than the 
FT-897). 
 
o  With the pre-amp on, the K-2 is about as good as the FT-897, but 
still not as good as the K-1.
 
The situation is better with AGC off, as good as or better than the 
FT-897, but still not as good as the K-1.  
 
It seems as if the AGC is having too much impact since I have to crank 
the AF Gain almost all the way clockwise to get decent audio volume 
with the AGC on (both headphones and speaker)?
 
 
2. On receive, stations are either there or not there.
 
In a correctly operating radio, as you tune across a station's signal, 
the signal strength starts out lower and then picks up in strength and 
volume as you reach the station's actual transmit frequency.  
Furthermore, if two stations are near each other, you typically hear 
both of them.
 
In this case, if I hear a signal, I hear it at the same volume as I 
tune across the signal's bandwidth.  The perceived signal strength 
simply does not change.  The S-Meter does change value, but not the 
perceived signal strength in the headphones or speaker. 
 
Along with this, there is no interference from adjacent signals.  I'm 
always hearing the strongest station and only the strongest station at 
whatever spot that my VFO is tuned to.  Any other stations are simply 
not there, as if some sort of really good DSP has completely 
eliminated all but the strongest station at that point in the VFO (and 
I mean *completely* eliminated).  As you tune across, you can hear the 
specific point where one station stops being heard and a different one 
starts being heard.
 
I do not have DSP -- this is a bare bones K-2 without noise blanker or 
anything else.  I have AGC turned off.  The problem also appears with 
AGC on.  In addition, it appears in both VFO A and VFO B. 
 
I have the squelch turned off. 
 
I have checked, and I'm in filter 1 and I'm getting the correct 
readings from aligning FIL1.  When I go to FIL2,  there's a similar 
effect -- except that the bandwidth range across which I can hear the 
signal is much smaller (to be expected with a tighter filter).  At 
FIL3 I can hear only the strongest of stations, and then across an 
extremely narrow signal bandwidth.  Finally, at FIL4 I cannot pick up 
even the strongest signals. 
 
 
3.  As I tune across a CW station's signal, there is no change in 
audio frequency.
 
In a correctly operating radio, as you tune across a CW signal, there 
is a change in the audio frequency of the signal, until you're at 
zero-beat, at which time the audio frequency is whatever you've set 
your sidetone at.
 
In this case, once I hear a signal, I hear it at the same audio 
frequency across the entire bandwidth of the signal for as long as I'm 
hearing that signal (see problem 2 above).
 
The audio frequency at which I'm hearing the signal is 

[Elecraft] KAF2 Sold!

2008-11-08 Thread Ron McCurdy
 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2008-11-08 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   According to my little RS clock it is now 0449z.  Therefore an hour and 49 
minutes ago it was 0300z and 7 PM PST.  Hopefully I did it correctly this time 
:)  So tomorrow we meet at z and 0300z.  Sounds like a plan.  Conditions 
have been fair to good this last week.  It does help my mentor put up a nice 
beam at 60 feet but the sun has also cooperated.  A sunspot is just slipping 
over the limb of the sun as I write.  It may be a sign of things to come; like 
the beginning of the end of the solar minimum.  
   Weather has been soggy here but I cannot complain.  All the wood I collected 
is keeping the place very cozy.  Fire guardian Sam is on watch to make sure the 
temperature is to his liking.  The folks in North and South Dakota do have 
something they may wish to discuss but I fear they are far too busy digging 
themselves out of the wind driven snow which fell over a broad swath of 
territory.  I read 80 mph winds sculpted some very large drifts east of and 
inside of the Black Hills.  I lived near Keystone for a few years and went to 
school at SDSMT as did my father and brother.  Normally winters are quite mild 
there compared to the surrounding areas.  My mom had her third child (my sister 
Dairn) there in 1949 while dad was in school on the GI Bill after the war.  She 
mentioned the drifts reached the second story of the hospital.  So these storms 
do happen but not all that often in Rapid City.  Stay warm folks!

Please join us tomorrow evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)
3) Call by time zone (East, Central  Mountain, everybody else)
 
Monday z (Sunday 4 PM PST) 14050 kHz
Monday 0300z (Sunday 7 PM PST)  7045 kHz
 
   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 AF audio problems

2008-11-08 Thread Scott Avery
Troubleshooting made easy

The Main Speaker, internal and external no longer work.
Also, Line input no longer works.

Need to use the phone lack to hear any audio.

Looks like a trip to the shop.. 

73, Scott



From: Scott Avery 
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 6:57 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 AF audio problems


Hello All,

Today, I was enjoying working some DX etc.
All the sudden the AF audio out of my external speaker was all distorted and 
cracking up.
If I advance the AF gain past 12 O'clock distortion happens on the external  
internal speaker.
The Phone output is ok and not affected. Sounds normal at full volume, but NOT 
main speaker!
When changing the audio gain parameter in menu from high to low, no distortion, 
but the same as 12 O'clock position on AF gain.
Also, When powering up, sometimes the main speaker will not work, but phones do.
If I cycle the power to the K3, Sometimes, when audio set above 12 O'clock, the 
audio will sound good for a split
second, then the radio backs off the audio automatically, and sounds like crap.

Currently running latest beta software. Did revert back to older software, but 
no change.

Any help appreciated!

73, Scott WA6LIE
K3 #1993






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[Elecraft] K3 Cool

2008-11-08 Thread Don Rasmussen
I've improved some of the visual effects in an update to Cool version 5.1

The new version 5.2 is a ZIP file of the executable alone. Copy it into your 
existing Cool area (good for K2 or K3) and explode, it's that simple.

I've implimented the bitmap graphic that W4SMT is using because it made my old 
graphic look pretty sad. ;-)

http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Procat_Cool_for_Windows


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[Elecraft] Difuser spacers.

2008-11-08 Thread John
I found the spacers.
John.
Proves you have to read the manual.
73.
John.

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