Re: [Elecraft] K3: Upgrade DSP? I didn't...

2009-10-11 Thread Richard Squire

Neither did I, Wayne, and I'm quite happy with the K3's audio, both RX and
TX.
For my part, I prefer classical - but that is certainly not what I purchased
the K3 for!
73
Richard - HB9ANM


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Most K3 users will not notice, nor benefit from, a lower AF cutoff in  
 DSP hardware. Our most recent firmware already lowers the response  
 somewhat. Those lacking spectacular hearing and an application for  
 ultralow bass can forego the upgrade.
 
 I have an original DSP in my K3, and I find its bass quite  
 satisfactory even for ESSB and for listening to music broadcasts.
 
 OTOH, I prefer rock and blues.  Maybe if I were listening to classical  
 I'd need those big electrolytics :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] auto-disconnect antenna relays? (KAT100 related)

2009-10-11 Thread Ken Kopp
I've had a pair of 2.5 mH RF chokes from each side 
of my open-wire feeder to ground for years.  This
provides a DC path to ground with no apparent ill
effects. Seems to work. Like a lightning rod, one 
doesn't know if it works until it doesn't. (;-)

I assume that the same would work for a single
coax center conductor.

Yes, I know there is a likelihood for this to mess 
with the impedance, but I've seen no problem
because of this arrangement. YMMV

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 Audio Mods

2009-10-11 Thread rfenabled
Snip

OTOH, I prefer rock and blues.  Maybe if I were listening to classical  
I'd need those big electrolytics :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR
End Snip

Wayne,

I like both kinds of music...Country AND Western.(:-))

Gary
VK4WT/P
In the Motorhome
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK

2009-10-11 Thread Julian, G4ILO



KK7P wrote:
 
 
 The K3 directly generates FSK tones in a phase-coherent manner at the 15
 kHz 
 IF.  The output is then up-converted to 8.215 MHz, passes through the
 crystal 
 roofing filter, then converted to the final RF output frequency.  No audio 
 involved.
 
 

Thanks for the clarification, Lyle. Mind you, to some of us, 15kHz *is*
audio. :)

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement

2009-10-11 Thread Julian, G4ILO



P.B. Christensen wrote:
 
 I think what some folks are requesting is an updated schematic, showing
 the 
 new values.  But what they may not realize is that 7 SMT capacitors are 
 changed -- or in the alternative, the corresponding SMT resistors require 
 solder re-work and that's in addition to the C9/C13 change and so the
 total 
 parts change may be in excess of 10.  That's a lot of propensity for
 damage 
 to the board and it really makes sense to just opt for the board swap 
 through Elecraft.
 
 
But since the capacitor values are all being increased, is it not an option
simply to add conventional electrolytic capacitors in parallel to the SMT
ones, as the photos on the Russian website appear to illustrate? That is
something most people would be capable of doing, and could be especially
attractive to those of us in Europe for whom the total cost of the board
swap will amount to a lot more than $65.

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* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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[Elecraft] UK Elecraft Net

2009-10-11 Thread Ian Maude
Hi all,Conditions have improved again in the UK on 80m so we are going to
restart the weekly SSB Elecraft net.  I will be running the net each Sunday
on 3658 +/- QRM at 09:00 BST (08:00 GMT) and I hope to hear you there.
 There have been many changes (certainly on the K3 front) since the last net
was run and many more planned additions so we should have plenty to talk
about.  There have been many more K3's delivered since last year too!  I
should mention that this is *not* a K3 net, it is an Elecraft net.  If you
own a K1 or KX1 and want to call in on any other make of radio you are very
welcome.
I hope to hear many of you next weekend.

73 Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] Need more than one serial port?

2009-10-11 Thread chen dave
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Paul paul.rei...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I am working on the BESCOTP award--the Bought Every Single Cable On The
 Planet award...

 The DB-9 serial port on the back of the K-3 here has a special cable
 running to the Steppir antenna controller. Now I need to access the same
 port from the computer for another application, mainly my contest
 logger/keying. I have a Micro Keyer and my old cable for it was for a Icom
 Pro II. I have to buy a new one for the K-3, but it is $85 ! I'd go ahead
 and do it, but I'm not sure how to hook all this up!

 So, how are you contesters out there doing that? Is there a Y cable made
 for DB-9? If so, wouldn't that pin out be different than the one for the
 SteppIR and cause problems?

 A secondary problem is that the computer only has USB ports, no serial
 port. It's an IBM Thinkpad. I believe it has 4 USB 2.0 ports available.

 Any info would help!

 Thanks,

 Paul
 WY7I


As everyone knows, some USB to serial adapter is OK, but others are very
poor. My suggestion is try to buy a PCMCIA to RS232 card, it is much better
than a USB to serial.

By the way there a tranditional RS232 on your thinkpad main board, but you
need several wires ...

73 de ba4rf/David
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-HRD CW keying issue fixed

2009-10-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Doesn't matter.  3.42 available.   73, Guy.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net
 wrote:

 Does anyone know if this is HRD version sensitive?
 73, de Jim KG0KP

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Fletcher p...@melreed.demon.co.uk
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-HRD CW keying issue fixed


 
 
 
  wayne burdick wrote:
 
  I just sent a new version of K3 firmware to everyone who reported a
  problem with HRD and K3 revision 3.41.
 
  There are other issues with 3.41 and HRD that may be the same problem. I
  noticed tonight that the voice keyer is slow to release PTT at the end of
  a
  message. I shut down HRD and the problem went away. Also when tuning the
  display randomly stops for a short period then picks up again. Similarly
  when HRD is shut down this problem goes away.
 
  I don't have the sub-rx installed.
 
  Regards,
  Paul.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement

2009-10-11 Thread Paul Christensen
 But since the capacitor values are all being increased, is it not an 
 option
 simply to add conventional electrolytic capacitors in parallel to the SMT
 ones, as the photos on the Russian website appear to illustrate?

I don't know what he has done, but it's possible to stack SMT capacitors if 
great care is taken.  This will work for the line-in and mic-in changes, but 
I cannot see how stacking C9/C13 will work for the headphone output change. 
If he's accomplished that task, God bless him.  Myself, I've found it takes 
a great balancing act to stack SMT parts and hold the new component in 
place.  I'm not the world's best SMT re-work guy, so others may have 
developed better eye-hand coordination skills.

Paul, W9AC
 

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Re: [Elecraft] UK Elecraft Net

2009-10-11 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, Ian Maude i...@gb7mbc.net wrote ...
I
should mention that this is *not* a K3 net, it is an Elecraft net.  If you
own a K1 or KX1 and want to call in on any other make of radio you are very
welcome.

Why not call in on a K1 or KX1, Ian?   CW is permitted on the whole of 
the 80m band under the Region 1 band plan.

73
-- 
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] Need more than one serial port?

2009-10-11 Thread N8LP

You may want to look at my free LP-Bridge program. It acts as a clearing
house for the K3. There is just one cable between the PC and K3. All your
loggers and other programs (up to 5 of them) connect to the K3 through
virtual ports in LP-Bridge. You can also connect two devices such as a
SteppIR through additional PC ports. You will, of course, need to create
some serial ports for your laptop using multiple USB to serial adapters, or
one adapter with multiple serial ports. Byterunner.com has reasonably priced
ones with one or more serial ports. I recommend picking one with an FTDI
chipset. 

The advantage of LP-Bridge over generic port splitters is that the data to
the K3 is filtered for redundant traffic, collisions, etc. Also, the SteppIR
ports are conditioned so that only the transmit frequency is reported to
SteppIR when running split, and I add hysteresis to the reported frequency
so that the SteppIR doesn't constantly retune when you're near a tuning
boundary.

LP-Bridge also provides linking to the PowerSDR program for external
panadapter use with the K3, but you can just ignore this section of the
program.

73,
Larry N8LP






Paul-30 wrote:
 
 I am working on the BESCOTP award--the Bought Every Single Cable On The
 Planet award...
 
 The DB-9 serial port on the back of the K-3 here has a special cable
 running to the Steppir antenna controller. Now I need to access the same
 port from the computer for another application, mainly my contest
 logger/keying. I have a Micro Keyer and my old cable for it was for a Icom
 Pro II. I have to buy a new one for the K-3, but it is $85 ! I'd go ahead
 and do it, but I'm not sure how to hook all this up!
 
 So, how are you contesters out there doing that? Is there a Y cable made
 for DB-9? If so, wouldn't that pin out be different than the one for the
 SteppIR and cause problems?
 
 A secondary problem is that the computer only has USB ports, no serial
 port. It's an IBM Thinkpad. I believe it has 4 USB 2.0 ports available.
 
 Any info would help!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Paul
 WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement

2009-10-11 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 But since the capacitor values are all being increased, is it 
 not an option simply to add conventional electrolytic 
 capacitors in parallel to the SMT ones, as the photos on the 
 Russian website appear to illustrate? 

The changes on the Russian web site are not official from Elecraft. 

Other than the changes to the headphone coupling capacitors, the 
changes on that web site involve mostly adding large electrolytic 
capacitors as additional bypassing and decoupling to supply lines 
or internal voltage references in amplifiers.  Most of the changes 
are not related to audio response. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
 Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:44 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Rev C DSP with Low Freq Enhancement
 
 
 
 
 
 P.B. Christensen wrote:
  
  I think what some folks are requesting is an updated schematic, 
  showing the new values.  But what they may not realize is 
 that 7 SMT 
  capacitors are changed -- or in the alternative, the 
 corresponding SMT 
  resistors require solder re-work and that's in addition to 
 the C9/C13 
  change and so the total
  parts change may be in excess of 10.  That's a lot of propensity for
  damage 
  to the board and it really makes sense to just opt for the 
 board swap 
  through Elecraft.
  
  
 But since the capacitor values are all being increased, is it 
 not an option simply to add conventional electrolytic 
 capacitors in parallel to the SMT ones, as the photos on the 
 Russian website appear to illustrate? That is something most 
 people would be capable of doing, and could be especially 
 attractive to those of us in Europe for whom the total cost 
 of the board swap will amount to a lot more than $65.
 
 -
 Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
 * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
 * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
 * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
 
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[Elecraft] wanted: KXB30

2009-10-11 Thread Casey

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[Elecraft] Solar cycle

2009-10-11 Thread John
The latest information I could find on the new solar cycle (near the 
end of the article). Get those radios ready.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091011/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_apocalypse2012;_ylt=AsS9hE5yZGMVEu5PHVMx0o2s0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNhY2Q0NDdnBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkxMDExL2x0X21leGljb19hcG9jYWx5cHNlMjAxMgRjcG9zAzkEcG9zAzYEcHQDaG9tZV9jb2tlBHNlYwN5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawMyMDEyaXNudHRoZWU-

John
k7up

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK

2009-10-11 Thread lyle johnson
 Thanks for the clarification, Lyle. Mind you, to some of us, 15kHz *is*
 audio. :)

It was for me until about age 20 or so.  Now, I'm not certain if 6 kHz is 
audio...

73,

Lyle KK7P/7 (Tucson AZ)
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Solar cycle

2009-10-11 Thread Bruce Beford
John, K7UP wrote:

 

The latest information I could find on the new solar cycle (near the 
end of the article). Get those radios ready.
 
Ridiculous link snipped
 
information? Please. These end-of-the-world crackpots shouldn't get
further advertising. As for the likelihood of a solar peak in 2012 being a
lulu- good luck with that. At this point all the real science seems to
point toward a later, less than record breaking peak. Just enjoy each day.
You'll be much better off for it. 8-)
 
73,
Bruce, N1RX

 

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[Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Frank MacDonell
Can anyone refer me to a list of commonly used shorthand for CW?
Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Bruce Beford
Here's a good list of CW abbreviations. I am sure there are others.
73, Bruce N1RX

http://www.kent-engineers.com/abbreviations.htm


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[Elecraft] K9AY/K3 Diversity Receive at VE1RGB

2009-10-11 Thread Gary, VE1RGB
For those of you who may be considering the erection of a K9AY
loop, particularly K3 owners with the KRX3, I have written up a report of my
early experience with this listening antenna at my little contest station.
That story can be found at
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/jhsmith/myweb4/index.htm.  Scroll down the
right-hand side of the page.

 

Let me quick to reiterate what it says up front in that report:
this is a very non-rigorous, unscientific, non-engineering kind of narrative
based on a very short period of evaluation.  It is entirely anecdotal.  My
installation is far from optimum and I would even be reluctant to let Gary
Breed look at it for fear he might ask me to take it down (just kidding).
It is anything but certain that my experience will translate to yours.
Having said that, I would be very quick to recommend that anyone with a
local noise problem give this antenna a shot.  It's easy to build even for
us old guys and it clearly has the potential for doing rather remarkable
things.  [While you're on that page, look on the left hand margin and read
the more professional engineering reports about other antenna topics written
by a real engineer, VE1ZAC].

 

Now, why is the K3 in the subject line?

 

I have three single-element multi-band transmitting antennas and
now the K9AY in addition to a short (300-foot) Beverage as listening
antennas.  My first try at diversity receive using K3 #095 with a recently
installed second receiver instantly suggested that a two-receiver radio will
turn out to much more than just a tool for easily working split  (although
it is almost worth the cost of the KRX3 for that pleasure alone).  I was
immediately struck by how much control I had suddenly gained over my entire
antenna farm since evaluating and selecting the right combination of
antennas from my suite for any given situation while in the diversity
receive configuration becomes dead simple after pushing a couple of buttons.
And everyone knows that the variables in the equation mean that it is
difficult to predict what the right combination should be.  In one instance
last night on 40M, I listened to a CW QSO between a K4 and a LZ.  The K4 was
being received almost entirely on the Beverage and showed up in my right
ear.  The signal from the LZ, on the other hand, was being received almost
entirely on the K9AY loop and was being routed to the left ear.  Hearing the
signals bounce back and forth between NA and EU was fascinating.  While it
is true that in this instance, any one of my transmitting antennas by itself
would likely have been adequate, that example does seem to suggest that it
is only a matter of time before this versatility pays off for real.   I
believe I have increased my potential for achieving another DXCC entity or
maybe being able to work a rare DX station in an international contest by
being able to quickly optimize the use of my antennas, each with its own
unique but generally unpredictable characteristics.  

 

For those sitting on the fence, I hope that this information
encourages you to take another step.

 

73,



 

Gary, VE1RGB

ve1...@rac.ca

(902) 860-0810

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
And here's another list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code_abbreviations


For the record, T for zero is not really an abbreviation but a modern
affectation caused by the limitations of keyers. It should be a longer than
normal dash which is American Morse for a zero. T for zero works, if it's
in context where it's obviously a number and not a T (e.g. PWR HR 1TT WTS). 

Also not an abbreviation, but still new to many operators, is the Morse for
an @ symbol that was adopted by the ITU a few years ago. It's .--.-.

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can anyone refer me to a list of commonly used shorthand for CW?

Whilst browsing the results of a Google search for simply cw
shorthand (which, by the way, returned, as its top result, a
comprehensive list in PDF format), I found this, which is too good not
to share:

So you want to be a lid! - http://www.qsl.net/dl4tt/w5vsr.html

~Iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] K3 Microphonics

2009-10-11 Thread Juan EA5RS

I am a new K3 owner, got my radio a couple of weeks ago.
While measuring CW filter selectivity I noticed microphonics in the
receiver.
I set up a -60dBm carrier on 14020 (it is S9+ on Smeter).
Don`t use headphones, use the built-in speaker
Tune RX with 400Hz filter, say 300Hz away from carrier, Smeter is now S2
Now crank up your AF gain or simply hit your radio with your finger.
What I see is the Smeter jump up and the RX audio replicate the mechanical
noise you just created.
I did the same with the generator (a N2PK VNA) and the frequency change is
not happening there.
It also happens with the 2.8 KHz filter
This sounds to me as the mechanical pressure is frequency modulating the
synthesizer and this is demodulated and amplified by the very high slope of
the amplitude/frequency transfer function of the 
crystal filters. Still, this should not happen in a high quality receiver
I don´t know if this is usual in the K3 or just my radio is defective.
Looking forward to your replies.
73 de Juan EA5RS

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[Elecraft] [K3] K3 Utilities program hang-up

2009-10-11 Thread Twan - PA0KV

Hello guys ( dolls), 

I just noticed a problem with my USB-Serial connection towards my K3.
I started K3 Utilities (PC) and it used 100% cpu, polling K3. I had to shoot
the utility process because it didn't respond. Next I started HRD and it
works fine. No problem to find my K3.

After PC reboot the K3 Utilities worked fine. 
But later, when HDR was used and stopped, the K3 utilities frooze again,
polling for the K3.

So, I guess HDR sets a communication protocol K3 Utilities can't scope with.

Is there a way to reset my COM3 (Elecraft USB-Serial adapter) without
rebooting my PC?
Any other options?

73's Twan- PA0KV

K3 1770, Utilities 1.2.9.30, firmware 3.41.  PC: XP Home SP3. 
Latest USB-Serial driver from Elecraft.



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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread David Y.
Bruce and All,

That's a nice list.  Pretty complete--even has some I'm not familiar with, 
i.e. 30--never heard of that before.  There's also a very nifty CW player 
you can download.  Very impressive, and should be a great tool for someone 
trying to learn code.

Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Beford bruce.bef...@myfairpoint.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand


 Here's a good list of CW abbreviations. I am sure there are others.
 73, Bruce N1RX

 http://www.kent-engineers.com/abbreviations.htm


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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread David Cutter
I can see how c = yes, derived from confirm = cfm, but when I was a marine 
op it was y = yes

David
G3UNA

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand


 Here's a good list of CW abbreviations. I am sure there are others.
 73, Bruce N1RX

 http://www.kent-engineers.com/abbreviations.htm

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread David Y.
Ron and All,

I don't know exactly how one would differentiate between an abbreviation 
and shorthand, but yes, the T is often sent as an elongated dash when 
possible.  However, it's nearly always sent as just a regular T these days 
which, as you indicate, is probably because of keyer limitations.

This brings to my mind the very common use of N for 9, as in 5NN for 
599.  .  That probably should also be on the list, as it is almost 
universally used.  I rarely hear anyone use WTS for watts.  It's usually 
just a W.

The one thing I think that list doesn't make clear is that some letters are 
intentionally run together, with no separation, such as BT.  Another was 
the example of HH, which really should just be 8 dits run together, to 
indicate an error.  A third example is AS.  In print, character 
combinations like that are show with an overscore (a solid line above the 
letters) to indicate that they are run together.  I don't know how to do 
that here, but there is probably some way to do that with an ASCII command.

Anyway, there are probably a bunch of other variations/additions.  I suspect 
this list will grow.

Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand


 And here's another list:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_code_abbreviations


 For the record, T for zero is not really an abbreviation but a modern
 affectation caused by the limitations of keyers. It should be a longer 
 than
 normal dash which is American Morse for a zero. T for zero works, if 
 it's
 in context where it's obviously a number and not a T (e.g. PWR HR 1TT 
 WTS).

 Also not an abbreviation, but still new to many operators, is the Morse 
 for
 an @ symbol that was adopted by the ITU a few years ago. It's .--.-.

 Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Ken Kopp
I believe 30 was more commonly used in the press
wire field and indicates end or end of article.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Utilities program hang-up

2009-10-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Twan,

Download K3 firmware 3.42 and try it.  There was a problem when using 
HRD that was fixed.  It has a good chance for fixing your problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

Twan - PA0KV wrote:
 Hello guys ( dolls), 

 I just noticed a problem with my USB-Serial connection towards my K3.
 I started K3 Utilities (PC) and it used 100% cpu, polling K3. I had to shoot
 the utility process because it didn't respond. Next I started HRD and it
 works fine. No problem to find my K3.

 After PC reboot the K3 Utilities worked fine. 
 But later, when HDR was used and stopped, the K3 utilities frooze again,
 polling for the K3.

 So, I guess HDR sets a communication protocol K3 Utilities can't scope with.

 Is there a way to reset my COM3 (Elecraft USB-Serial adapter) without
 rebooting my PC?
 Any other options?

 73's Twan- PA0KV

 K3 1770, Utilities 1.2.9.30, firmware 3.41.  PC: XP Home SP3. 
 Latest USB-Serial driver from Elecraft.
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Lee Buller

Actuallythe c come from Spanish.  At least, that is what I always thought 
se senior or yes mister

Lee K0WA
Making up life as I go 
:)



I can see how c = yes, derived from confirm = cfm, but when I was a marine 
op it was y = yes

David
G3UNA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Utilities program hang-up

2009-10-11 Thread Twan - PA0KV

Okay, I'm gonna try fw3.42. I keep you posted.

tnx,   Twan - PA0KV



Don Wilhelm-4 wrote:
 
 Twan,
 
 Download K3 firmware 3.42 and try it.  There was a problem when using 
 HRD that was fixed.  It has a good chance for fixing your problem.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Yep, and carried over onto radiotelegraphy mostly for noting the end of the
press sent to ships, etc.

I've always used R to denote yes. That's what we used on military CW,
and I've heard and used it on the ham bands for many, many years. During a
CW contact when I had excellent copy I'll often start my transmission with R
R R DE AC7AC...denoting that copy was FB and allowing the important delay
for those stations who have switches to throw when going from TX to RX. 

Ron AC7AC

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I believe 30 was more commonly used in the press
wire field and indicates end or end of article.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK

2009-10-11 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Listen to all you can now because later on it will not be the same.  Try 
10db down up to 1500 Hz and 50 db down all above 1600 Hz.  Yes, 1500 Hz is 
tops. Sometimes it isn't all bad.  My wife's voice is above that (mostly) hi 
hi.

73, de Jim KG0KP

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From: lyle johnson k...@wavecable.com
To: Julian, G4ILO julian.g4...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK


 Thanks for the clarification, Lyle. Mind you, to some of us, 15kHz *is*
 audio. :)

 It was for me until about age 20 or so.  Now, I'm not certain if 6 kHz is
 audio...

 73,

 Lyle KK7P/7 (Tucson AZ)
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:02:24 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
wrote:

Yep, and carried over onto radiotelegraphy mostly for noting the end of the
press sent to ships, etc.

I've always used R to denote yes. That's what we used on military CW,
and I've heard and used it on the ham bands for many, many years. During a
CW contact when I had excellent copy I'll often start my transmission with R
R R DE AC7AC...denoting that copy was FB and allowing the important delay
for those stations who have switches to throw when going from TX to RX. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
I believe 30 was more commonly used in the press
wire field and indicates end or end of article.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
 elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
[snip]

In the last year or so I've begun to hear a lot of CW op's sending EN
to the other station when it is turned back to them.  Is this
something new or just a cool LID's way to send R for Roger?

Tom, N5GE

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XV144, XV432, KRC2,
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2 W2's on order
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[Elecraft] Headphone discussion

2009-10-11 Thread Paul
I need a new pair of headphones as my Stanton Lab's are finally worn ragged 
(after about 30 years). Apparently, they don't make 'em anymore.
I wonder if either the Yamaha or the Koss microphones (referred to in this 
list) can be removed? Or is there an equivalent model with no mic?
I only work CW here.

Thanks,

Paul
WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 I've always used R to denote yes. That's what we used on military CW,
 and I've heard and used it on the ham bands for many, many years.

I have to add that nobody ever understands when I use 'c' for 'yes'. When a dx 
station 
struggles and finally gets my call right, if I respond with 'c' he usually 
tries 
additional (wrong) permutations of my call!

What works is r r r r, even though strictly speaking 'r' means 'I received 
all OK' or 
'understood'.
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Vic K2VCO
Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:

 In the last year or so I've begun to hear a lot of CW op's sending EN
 to the other station when it is turned back to them.  Is this
 something new or just a cool LID's way to send R for Roger?

This is the same guy who thinks that the 'general call to all stations' is sent 
as NNGT.

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Matt Zilmer
snip

CW ops use this long inter-element delay between E and N (to make R)
as a point of emphasis.  I guess this means Very Good R.  This has
been true at least at least since I was first  licensed (1972).  At
that time, electronic keyers were fairly new (and/or expensive,) and
bugs were often used.  That delay is very common for a bug user.

Many elements of style are incorporated into one's fist, according to
experience and exposure.  And some styles (swing, or whatever it's
called) persist culturally even if the technology changes.  You
probably won't hear the long delay in contesting though, since every
unnecessary delay counts towards missed contacts.

73,
matt zilmer, W6NIA
K3 #24, K2 #2810

In the last year or so I've begun to hear a lot of CW op's sending EN
to the other station when it is turned back to them.  Is this
something new or just a cool LID's way to send R for Roger?

Tom, N5GE

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K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6,
XV144, XV432, KRC2,
W1 and other small kits.

2 W2's on order
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphone discussion

2009-10-11 Thread Jim Wiley


Radio Shack has a number of decent looking and well-reviewed over the 
ear headphones in their on-line store.  Many good ones in the $15 to $20 
range.  I purchased some from them a few years ago, and have been 
pleased with their comfort and performance.   As usual, no connection 
with Radio Shack, just a satisfied customer. . 


- Jim, KL7CC

Paul wrote:
 I need a new pair of headphones as my Stanton Lab's are finally worn ragged 
 (after about 30 years). Apparently, they don't make 'em anymore.
 I wonder if either the Yamaha or the Koss microphones (referred to in this 
 list) can be removed? Or is there an equivalent model with no mic?
 I only work CW here.

 Thanks,

 Paul
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[Elecraft] Problem with TX on K3 3001

2009-10-11 Thread Chris Tate -N6WM
 
Greetings all, I have been following the reflector for a while, but this
is the first post I have made, so be kind ; )

I was doing some testing locally with a friend, and he noticed a warble
on my cw tone.  Upon further investigation, I have noticed the
following:

When tune power is set to 10 w, it seems to show only 6.5 watts out.

When tune power is set to 100 w, it shows 100 w out.

I tried to run the tx calibration sequence, and it fails doing the 5
watt cal with this message, similar to the tune power output issue..

Starting 5 watt calibration
Calibrating at 1.900 MHz
IsSamplingComplete: Unexpected response DS1\xB1I\x80\x88; to
DS; State 153
Calibration power settled at   3.9 W ;
5 watt calibration failed
Elapsed time: 8 seconds

Anyone have any ideas on this?  Me thinks my baby is broke :(

Chris
N6WM
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[Elecraft] K3 RRTC Video

2009-10-11 Thread Bill W4ZV

Here's a link to a well-done video (~33.5 mins) of the 2009 Russian Radio
Team Championship contest in July.  Most of you know the World Radio Team
Championship will be hosted by Russia in July 2010.  Most the this video is
in Russian with a few English comments by Roger G3SXW near the end (~30 mins
into the video), but you can get a good idea of what the WRTC will look like
next summer since the location, antennas, etc will essentially follow the
same format as the RRTC.

http://blip.tv/file/2678970

There are a couple of shots of K3s in operation by the UA3DPX/RL3FT and
UA9CLB/UA9CDC teams at 17:11 and 17:55 into the video.  I expect we'll see
many more in use at the WRTC.

73,  Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphonics

2009-10-11 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Juan EA5RS wrote:
 
 I am a new K3 owner, got my radio a couple of weeks ago.
 While measuring CW filter selectivity I noticed microphonics in the
 receiver.
 I set up a -60dBm carrier on 14020 (it is S9+ on Smeter).
 Don`t use headphones, use the built-in speaker
 Tune RX with 400Hz filter, say 300Hz away from carrier, Smeter is now S2
 Now crank up your AF gain or simply hit your radio with your finger.
 What I see is the Smeter jump up and the RX audio replicate the mechanical
 noise you just created.
 I did the same with the generator (a N2PK VNA) and the frequency change is
 not happening there.
 It also happens with the 2.8 KHz filter
 This sounds to me as the mechanical pressure is frequency modulating the
 synthesizer and this is demodulated and amplified by the very high slope
 of the amplitude/frequency transfer function of the 
 crystal filters. Still, this should not happen in a high quality receiver
 I don´t know if this is usual in the K3 or just my radio is defective.
 Looking forward to your replies.
 73 de Juan EA5RS
 
 

Easy for me to test for this as I had just been re-doing the S meter
calibration. In my case I used the XG1 as a signal source (so frequency was
7.040) and I'm using a 500Hz filter. After tuning away until the signal is
S2 and the pitch quite low I could replicate what you found.

I don't know what that proves, but I don't see it as a problem because the
effect was not noticeable with the signal tuned in properly nor am I in the
habit of hitting my K3 during operation. It doesn't surprise me that a
physical shock causes a change in frequency.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] Headphone discussion

2009-10-11 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
I've been really happy with Sennheiser HD202's, and they are 
available for less than $25.  Another gem IMHO is the Audio-Technical 
ATR30 microphone for under $30.

Dick, KA1SA

At 05:52 PM 10/11/2009, Jim Wiley wrote:


Radio Shack has a number of decent looking and well-reviewed over the
ear headphones in their on-line store.  Many good ones in the $15 to $20
range.  I purchased some from them a few years ago, and have been
pleased with their comfort and performance.   As usual, no connection
with Radio Shack, just a satisfied customer. .


- Jim, KL7CC

Paul wrote:
  I need a new pair of headphones as my Stanton Lab's are finally 
 worn ragged (after about 30 years). Apparently, they don't make 'em anymore.
  I wonder if either the Yamaha or the Koss microphones (referred 
 to in this list) can be removed? Or is there an equivalent model with no mic?
  I only work CW here.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Paul
  WY7I
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Dave W7AQK wrote:

The one thing I think that list doesn't make clear is that some letters are 
intentionally run together, with no separation, such as BT.  Another was 
the example of HH, which really should just be 8 dits run together, to 
indicate an error.  A third example is AS.  In print, character 
combinations like that are show with an overscore (a solid line above the 
letters) to indicate that they are run together.  I don't know how to do 
that here, but there is probably some way to do that with an ASCII command.



Yeah, I believe those are properly called prosigns. The most famous of all
is probably SOS.  (SOS, for example, could have been written VGI)

The common Ham prosigns I am familiar with are:

K = Invitation for any station to call.
 
AR = I have called a specific station and am looking for an answer from that
station.

KN = In communications with a specific station and standing by for that
station to respond (no others are invited to break in unless for an
emergency). 

R = Received in full and understood; affirmative; yes. 

AS = Stand by (wait). When followed by a number indicates how long to wait
(e.g. AS 1 = stand by 1 minute)

SK = End of communications with a specific station - sent before the final
call signs. 

CL = Shutting down operations. Not listening for any other calls. Last thing
sent before pulling the plug. 

Ron AC7AC

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Headphone discussion

2009-10-11 Thread The Smiths

MCM Electronics has some headphones that cost from $5 to $40 dollars... I have 
the Stellear Noise canceling head sets I bought for $20, and as an All CW guy 
in a VERY noisy shack, I wouldn't have anything else.  For the money, you can't 
beat them.
 

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/STELLAR-LABS-35-2200-/35-2200

 

Plus they have a some what low impedance of 32 Ohms so the volume is MORE than 
enough.  See if you can get on the mailing list, and just get the 10% off and 
20% off when they go on sale every 3 months...

 


 
 From: paul.rei...@earthlink.net
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:34:43 -0600
 Subject: [Elecraft] Headphone discussion
 
 I need a new pair of headphones as my Stanton Lab's are finally worn ragged 
 (after about 30 years). Apparently, they don't make 'em anymore.
 I wonder if either the Yamaha or the Koss microphones (referred to in this 
 list) can be removed? Or is there an equivalent model with no mic?
 I only work CW here.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphone discussion

2009-10-11 Thread Ignacy

Based on advice of this group I bought Yamaha CM500. The headphones are high
impedance -130 Ohms, which makes older K3 have better low frequency
response.

The microphone in this headset is pretty good; after many tests some say it
is better than HEIL HC5 and some say it is worse, but the differences are
small. These headphones look more professional than many computer headsets.

Ignacy




Paul-30 wrote:
 
 I need a new pair of headphones as my Stanton Lab's are finally worn
 ragged (after about 30 years). Apparently, they don't make 'em anymore.
 I wonder if either the Yamaha or the Koss microphones (referred to in this
 list) can be removed? Or is there an equivalent model with no mic?
 I only work CW here.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Lee Buller

I have also use R as an affirmative.  I use to use C in my traffic handling 
days of the 60s and 70s.  We could also talk about QN or Q signals as well, 
but that is another thread.

Now, the EN for R I think came from my old Novice days to add emphasis that I 
did copy perfectly, something I struggled with in the beginning.  I do not see 
that much these days since you really have to actually send an EN to get the 
same affect with a keyer.  I still use R ... but not like I did with my J-38 in 
my Novice days.

Lee - K0WA


 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply.  If you 
don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it.  If you can't 
find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense.  
Is Common Sense divine?
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[Elecraft] What have I dont now.

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Kasrich
I have a K-3 with sub rx installed and it was working ok up until 
today.  Now it seems there is no vfo control on the sub.  when the main 
vfo knob is moved the freq changes and acts normal.  when sub is pushed 
the sub rx is listening to the same freq as the main except the display 
reads a different freq..  Each volume control works but controls a 
different ear.

What I have I done that I cant listen to two separate freq, one in each 
ear.  They are not linked.

Help!
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Re: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.

2009-10-11 Thread The Smiths


Sounds to me like you held the button in too long, and you're in Diversity mode 
now.. Is the decimal point blinking? if so, turn off the sub, then turn it back 
on again.  That should do the trick.  

Also, it seems that in the BSET mode, the B VFO is still not locked to the A 
VFO when in diversity mode.  Just a note for Wayne to look into that when he 
gets a chance.


 
 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:00:34 -0400
 From: a...@indy.rr.com
 To: k3supp...@elecraft.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.
 
 I have a K-3 with sub rx installed and it was working ok up until 
 today. Now it seems there is no vfo control on the sub. when the main 
 vfo knob is moved the freq changes and acts normal. when sub is pushed 
 the sub rx is listening to the same freq as the main except the display 
 reads a different freq.. Each volume control works but controls a 
 different ear.
 
 What I have I done that I cant listen to two separate freq, one in each 
 ear. They are not linked.
 
 Help!
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Re: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.

2009-10-11 Thread Andy Faber
Mike,
  If you held the SUB button in too long, you may have linked the sub and 
main.  The remedy is to do the same to unlink them.
 73, andy, ae6y
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To: K3 Support k3supp...@elecraft.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; 
Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.


I have a K-3 with sub rx installed and it was working ok up until
 today.  Now it seems there is no vfo control on the sub.  when the main
 vfo knob is moved the freq changes and acts normal.  when sub is pushed
 the sub rx is listening to the same freq as the main except the display
 reads a different freq..  Each volume control works but controls a
 different ear.

 What I have I done that I cant listen to two separate freq, one in each
 ear.  They are not linked.

 Help!
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Re: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Kasrich
well the decimal is not blinking and the sub rx seems to be off in la-la 
land.  Toggle between vfo a and b and two different stations are there 
turn the sub on and only hear the main freq.  both volume controls seem 
to control different ears guess it still isnt off diversity that is.



The Smiths wrote:

 Sounds to me like you held the button in too long, and you're in 
 Diversity mode now.. Is the decimal point blinking? if so, turn off 
 the sub, then turn it back on again.  That should do the trick. 

 Also, it seems that in the BSET mode, the B VFO is still not locked 
 to the A VFO when in diversity mode.  Just a note for Wayne to look 
 into that when he gets a chance.

  
  Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:00:34 -0400
  From: a...@indy.rr.com
  To: k3supp...@elecraft.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.
 
  I have a K-3 with sub rx installed and it was working ok up until
  today. Now it seems there is no vfo control on the sub. when the main
  vfo knob is moved the freq changes and acts normal. when sub is pushed
  the sub rx is listening to the same freq as the main except the display
  reads a different freq.. Each volume control works but controls a
  different ear.
 
  What I have I done that I cant listen to two separate freq, one in each
  ear. They are not linked.
 
  Help!
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[Elecraft] yea its fubar

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Kasrich
Im getting somewhat disappointed with my k-3.  The sub is listening to 
the same freq as the main.  nothing is blinking, nothing is linked. Ive 
turned the sub off, turned the rig off.  When I turn the main af all the 
way down the sub rf and af gain controls what is being heard so it 
appears the sub is on it just makes no difference what freq is showing 
in the b vfo window, it listening to the freq displayed on the main.


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Re: [Elecraft] yea its fubar

2009-10-11 Thread The Smiths

Sounds like it's time to pull the Sub out, check what you get, then push it 
back in.. either that, or reload the software and see if that takes care of 
things. that's simple enough to do first.
 
 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:25:41 -0400
 From: a...@indy.rr.com
 To: k3supp...@elecraft.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] yea its fubar
 
 Im getting somewhat disappointed with my k-3. The sub is listening to 
 the same freq as the main. nothing is blinking, nothing is linked. Ive 
 turned the sub off, turned the rig off. When I turn the main af all the 
 way down the sub rf and af gain controls what is being heard so it 
 appears the sub is on it just makes no difference what freq is showing 
 in the b vfo window, it listening to the freq displayed on the main.
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.

2009-10-11 Thread The Smiths

Okay, here's another one for you...  Do you have the Sub mode in balanced?? 
This could make it so that the Sub Volume acts as a balance control, maybe you 
have the volume on the Sub set so that it's really hearing only the Main 
receiver???

 

And no, you shouldn't HAVE to pull the sub, but you shouldn't have to get your 
oil changed every 3000 mile either.. but if you want your car to work, you do 
it.  This is trouble shooting.. Anger doesn't get you anywhere.. Trying things 
does.

 


 
 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:14:08 -0400
 From: a...@indy.rr.com
 To: notforc...@hotmail.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.
 
 well the decimal is not blinking and the sub rx seems to be off in la-la 
 land. Toggle between vfo a and b and two different stations are there 
 turn the sub on and only hear the main freq. both volume controls seem 
 to control different ears guess it still isnt off diversity that is.
 
 
 
 The Smiths wrote:
 
  Sounds to me like you held the button in too long, and you're in 
  Diversity mode now.. Is the decimal point blinking? if so, turn off 
  the sub, then turn it back on again. That should do the trick. 
 
  Also, it seems that in the BSET mode, the B VFO is still not locked 
  to the A VFO when in diversity mode. Just a note for Wayne to look 
  into that when he gets a chance.
 
  
   Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:00:34 -0400
   From: a...@indy.rr.com
   To: k3supp...@elecraft.com; elecraft...@yahoogroups.com; 
  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: [Elecraft] What have I dont now.
  
   I have a K-3 with sub rx installed and it was working ok up until
   today. Now it seems there is no vfo control on the sub. when the main
   vfo knob is moved the freq changes and acts normal. when sub is pushed
   the sub rx is listening to the same freq as the main except the display
   reads a different freq.. Each volume control works but controls a
   different ear.
  
   What I have I done that I cant listen to two separate freq, one in each
   ear. They are not linked.
  
   Help!
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[Elecraft] An Appropriate Speaker

2009-10-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Now, you guys have been talking a lot about external speakers for your K3.
Many K2 and even some K1 owners like to use external speakers as well and
have agonized over which is best.

 

Much has been said about the quality old time receiver's speakers. 

 

So, obviously, here is what you need!

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/richard.dillman/SX28#5391496596587487298

 

This is an honest-to-goodness R2 speaker with a WWII vintage Hallicrafter's
SX-28A.  

 

Of course you need two of them to realize all the features of a K3. 

 

Ron AC7AC 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (10-11-09)

2009-10-11 Thread Phil and Christina
Wow, it was the best net we have had in awhile. There were 28 of us, and we
ran for 33 minutes.  In addition to all of the stateside stations, we had
Andy, M0CHK, from the UK and Peter, ZL1PWD, from New Zealand!  That spread
us across a lot of time zones!  The most unusual weather was 6 inches of
snow yesterday in Nebraska (KA0NCR).

The signals were generally OK, although a few required relays to get
through.  The discussions were on firmware versions and possibly higher
receiver noise levels in the most recent few.  Thanks to everyone who
checked in.  Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

W2RWA   DickNY  K3  2603
K0JWC   Jim MN  K3  3447
KA0NCR  Arnie   NE  K3  185
AK5UFrederick   TX  K3  3246
K4GCJ   GaryNC  K3  1597
W4PFM   PaulVA  K3  1673
W7ZTBillAZ  FT817 @ 5 watts
AD5SX   PaulNM  Jupiter
W5ETJ   GaryTX  K3  3227
KD5ZLB  Edwin   LA  K3  3147
W0FMTerry   MO  K3  474
W9DVM   PhilFL  K3  1605
K1BBM   JohnMA  K3  2579
M0CHK   AndyUK  K3  1701
ZL1PWD  Peter   NZ  K3  139
K4SOMarkVA  K3  2861
W6VYBob CA  K3  2765
K4LAY   Bob FL  K3  006
K4DJW/M DaveMD  IC706
KA4ZPV  RussGA  TX: FT900; RX: SX101
W0CZKen ND  K3  457
WQ7XMarkAZ  K3  3372
AE6IC   FredCA  K3  2241
WB6HPF  Al  CA  K3  974
AA5EZ   Travis  AR  K3  3327
AE6RH   Ron CA  K3  1997
AB9VMikeIN  K3  398
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for October 11th 12th, 2009

2009-10-11 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   The nets went well this evening.  Decent propagation but 20 meters did seem 
a little long.  40 meters had its normal QRN but the check in count was good.  
The weather reports were chilly everywhere except in Georgia and Alabama but 
that is to be expected too.  What was not expected was the cool report from 
Pete in Southern California.  There were two operators mentioning snow so I 
guess winter is coming a few months early.  It is almost cold here but that's 
OK, I grew up in the Midwest were cool weather was normal and below zero was 
another average winter.  There were times when we prayed for snow because it 
meant it would have to warm up.  A month of 40 below zero for the high does get 
a little tiring.  However, the snow at those temperatures is so nice for skiing 
:)

   On to the lists =

  On 14050.5 kHz at 2300z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K3 - 657** QNI # 205 **
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
WB5BKL - Nick - TX - K3 - 231
KS4L - Randy - AL - K2 - 337
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
K4BEH - Pat - GA - K2 - 5061
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139
N7HTS - Gary - WY - K2 - 6113

  On 7045 kHz at 0100Z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
W6SU - John - CA - K3 - 1303
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K3 - 657
K7SJ - Roger - WA - K3 - 75 * QNI # 110 *
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866  ** QNI # 210 **
KB3FBR - Joe - PA
WI6O - John - CA - K1 - 922
W6ODJ - Oliver - CA - K3 - 1741

   My lifetime enjoyment of radio continued this week with the discovery of a 
station which actually broadcasts baseball games!  I find watching a game a 
little boring after having grown up listening to them.  The announcers are very 
engaged attempting to describe the action for those of us who are not in the 
stadium.  Between the nets I got to listen to the Twins - Yankees game and now 
the Phillies - Rockies game.  I think the last time I listened to a game was in 
the mid '70s.  Now if only we could get radio shows back on the air!  The 
Shadow, The Green Hornet, Tales from the Crypt, etc.  I used to listen to KAAY 
out of Little Rock when the propagation was good.  Radio has been exciting to 
me since I first heard it on the little red Emerson radio in the kitchen.  You 
could smell the tubes and see them if mom didn't catch you playing with the 
back.  Hearing it warm up was fun too :)  I do so miss tubes.  These solid 
state rigs are nice but they do not keep your hands warm.  
 My brothers Lafayette rig kept me warm many winter nights while I was 
listening to the world in the back room away from the fire.  
   Until next week stay warm and stay well,
  73,
 Kevin. KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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Re: [Elecraft] Shorthand

2009-10-11 Thread Bud Morin
EN was used for an artistic R in he 1940's. I heard them and 
occasionally used it.

Bud, K9ZT


Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:02:24 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz
 wrote:

   
 Yep, and carried over onto radiotelegraphy mostly for noting the end of the
 press sent to ships, etc.

 I've always used R to denote yes. That's what we used on military CW,
 and I've heard and used it on the ham bands for many, many years. During a
 CW contact when I had excellent copy I'll often start my transmission with R
 R R DE AC7AC...denoting that copy was FB and allowing the important delay
 for those stations who have switches to throw when going from TX to RX. 

 Ron AC7AC

 -Original Message-
 I believe 30 was more commonly used in the press
 wire field and indicates end or end of article.

 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
 elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
 
 [snip]

 In the last year or so I've begun to hear a lot of CW op's sending EN
 to the other station when it is turned back to them.  Is this
 something new or just a cool LID's way to send R for Roger?

 Tom, N5GE

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