Re: [Elecraft] Mac OS X and K3 Utility Opinions?

2010-05-02 Thread Ian Maude
RUMlog does not need MySQL.  It installs easily and works out of the box.
 As Tom is a K3 owner, I would expect to see more stuff coming up for the
radio.  It is already very nice to use with some simple little features that
come in very handy.  Like being able to disconnect and reconnect the K3 in
runtime so you can fire up the K3 utility or something.  Well worth looking
at.

73 Ian

-- 
Ian J Maude, G0VGS
SysOp GB7MBC  HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
http://www.amateurradiotraining.org


On 1 May 2010 19:17, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 I couldn't get MySQL to install either and gave up on RumLog - I have MLDX
 anyway and understand Aether is good now, but haven't tried it. Not sure
 about SkookumLogger yet, you can find it athttp://
 web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.html
 I got put off at the beginning because it needed a WinKeyer to key morse,
 but I should take a look sometime.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
 --
 Life is an eternal challenge, a variant on Maeterlinck's theme that the
 Bluebird of happiness is by the side of each and everyone of us, always
 within reach, yet, if pursued to catch and possess is beyond our grasp. -
 Donald Campbell, CBE. (1921-1967)

 On 1 May 2010, at 18:58, Peter Wollan wrote:

  I never got Rumlog running, because I had trouble installing MySQL --
  I'm sure persistence would have overcome this, eventually.  What's
  this Skookum Logger?  Google doesn't find it.

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Re: [Elecraft] Mac OS X and K3 Utility Opinions?

2010-05-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Yep, I meant RUMped too :-(

And I remembered why I wasn't so keen on SkookumLogger - it doesn't support 
microHam devices (but so few do anyway), so I have to switch to my KUSB, not 
really a problem though.
however, it is supposed to support a lot of contests, so I should look deeper.

Have a friend just purchased Aether and he seems impressed, so I'll check with 
him on the confirmations bit.

thanks
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
Ideas are like rabbits. You get a couple and learn how to handle them, and
pretty soon you have a dozen.
--John Steinbeck, novelist, Nobel laureate (1902-1968)

On 1 May 2010, at 20:33, Rick Prather wrote:

 David,
 
 As noted above, you don't need SQL to run RUMlog.
 
 Also, since Tom has added so many nice features for the K3 in RUMlog it is 
 definitely something to check out.
 
 I also use MacLoggerDX and run it along side RUMlog.
 
 I have found no reason to run Aether.  I can't imagine the use of a logger 
 that won't keep track of confirmations and entities worked.  
 
 Rick
 K6LE
 #3727
 
 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:17 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
 m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:
 I couldn't get MySQL to install either and gave up on RumLog - I have MLDX 
 anyway and understand Aether is good now, but haven't tried it. Not sure 
 about SkookumLogger yet, you can find it 
 athttp://web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.html
 I got put off at the beginning because it needed a WinKeyer to key morse, but 
 I should take a look sometime.
 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Mac OS X and K3 Utility Opinions?

2010-05-02 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Strange, works here, I just clicked it, you email line didn't wrap did it and 
break the link?
73 de M0XDF
-- 
Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue 
than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer 
(106-43 BC)

On 1 May 2010, at 23:32, Ross Primrose N4RP wrote:

 On 5/1/10 2:09 PM, John Merrill wrote:
 You probably mean Rumped that runs with mysql(which runs fine for me).
 Rumlog doesn't require mysql.
 Go here   http://web.me.com/wlmyers/K1GQ/SkookumLogger.htmlfor
 SkookumLogger.
 
 
 
 That link gives a 404 not found error for me...
 

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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread James Sarte
Perhaps to you, but maybe not for everyone else. ;-)

73 de James K2QI

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] knobs

No!  No!  Not knobs again, please!

The original knobs on the K1, KX1, K2  K3 are all aesthetically and 
ergonomically perfect.
-- 
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] Strange problem last night in my K3

2010-05-02 Thread James Sarte
Did you have some program like HRD running while the K3 was connected? I've
noticed on a few occasions that HRD captures K3 control after some period of
time, and no actuation of front panel buttons causes any action.  I haven't
noticed this in some time on my unit, but it may be worth investigating on
your end.

73 de James K2QI

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ramiro Aceves
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:12 PM
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Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Strange problem last night in my K3

Matt Zilmer escribió:
 Sounds like you might've had LOCK engaged.  Did you check that?

thanks Matt, I checked that but I think LOCK was not engaged

73 Ramiro, EA4NZ

 
 matt W6NIA
 
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Re: [Elecraft] A few thoughts on the K3 as an AM SWBC receiver

2010-05-02 Thread Alan D. Wilcox
Bill,
Thanks for that website ... and wouldn't you know it ... of the dozens 
of languages, the one I wanted wasn't listed!

For those of us trying to listen to broadcast using the Internet, 
http://www.radio-locator.com/ provides similar help. Not nearly as much 
fun as the K3. Guess I'll need to put the KBPF3 and AM filter on my wish 
list!

Cheers, Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40)
570-321-1516
http://WilcoxEngineering.com
Williamsport, PA 17701 



Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO wrote:
 I originally ordered my K3 a couple years ago with the general-coverage 
 KBPF3 board, having the intention (When I Got a Round Tuit) to put up some 
 kind of SWBC band resonator-optimized wire antenna. Well, I finally got 
 around to it. And wow, what a SWBC DX receiver the K3 is! Here's a few 
 things I've been discovering the past few days:

 First, the world of SW broadcasting has changed immensely since my salad 
 days of SWLing in the 1960s. Used to be, when you heard a station you could 
 identify as Radio China, for example, you could be highly confident that you 
 were hearing a radio signal from China. Not so any more! Many countries now 
 lease out powerful, strategically located short-wave broadcast 
 transmitters/antennas to the highest bidder, with the program material sent 
 directly to the transmitter site by satellite from the country of origin. 
 Last night I was listening to Radio China International broadcasting in 
 English to North America -- but from Spain, not from China. And I listened 
 to Vatican Radio broadcasting to Africa in African-accented English -- but 
 from Madagascar, not from Rome. The World Radio TV Handbook (WRTH) makes all 
 this clear, after a fashion, but you have to look in three or four different 
 places in the book to sort it all out for any given broadcast. (There are 
 also many websites that are very useful in making sense of all this. See 
 below for an example.)

 The K3 offers a lot of options for listening to AM broadcasts. Synchronous 
 AM mode, which allows you to listen just to the upper or lower sideband 
 (selectable using the SHIFT knob), is a huge benefit over conventional 
 double-sideband envelope detection. But my favorite is still USB/LSB, 
 because I can tailor the LO-CUT and HI-CUT on either sideband to get just 
 the right selectivity for maximum intelligibility of the audio envelope. 
 This is highly dependent on the announcer's voice characteristics, as well 
 as on band conditions and interference sources.

 Setting VFO CRS to 5.0 kHz is also convenient, as the K3 remembers this 
 setting for the SWBC band-mode combinations. I tune the standard 5 kHz SWBC 
 channels with the RIT knob (VFO OFS=ON mode). If a station is 
 off-frequency, I can use the main VFO A knob to tune it in.

 An amazing website I discovered for the SWL is http://www.short-wave.info. 
 On this site, you can type in a frequency in kHz, click a button, and the 
 site will report all SWBC stations currently on the air on that fequency 
 (+/- 10 kHz), both in graphical map and tabular formats -- the map showing 
 the radio information (actual transmitter locations and frequencies), the 
 table showing the programming information (country of origin, language 
 currently being broadcast, and program start and end time intervals). The 
 database appears to be updated weekly. This is just WAY TOO COOL. :-)

 SWLing with the K3 is a whole different experience than with 
 earlier-generation receivers. With the right adjustments, you can hear and 
 actually understand a weak station 5 kHz up or down from a 40-over-9 monster 
 station. Adjacent-channel QRM is now a thing of the past. If you haven't 
 tried SWLing since you were a kid, you should get the KBPF3 board installed, 
 if you don't already have it, and check this out. Too much fun.

 Bill W5WVO


   

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Re: [Elecraft] A few thoughts on the K3 as an AM SWBC receiver

2010-05-02 Thread callen1155

Interesting post Bill, and thanks for the url.

I also enjoy listening to SWBC. I don't have the K3 general coverage module
nor the 6k filter. I listen to SWBC with my Radio Shack DX-394 receiver.
I've thought about using the K3 for SWLing. I wonder how the K3 would
perform compared to the DX-394? 

Also, I'm currently using a  non-resonant dipole of about 200 ft in length.
I switch this back and forth between the K3 (with internal ATU) and the
DX-394 (kind of a pain).
How does your dedicated SWL antenna differ?

And lastly, do you use an antenna tuner with you K3 SWBC listening?

Thanks and hope you don't mind the questions.

chuck
af4xk

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[Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Val
One of the most used controls in my K3 is the CW speed. The most missed
permanent information on the display is the speed too.

This is because the ham politeness demands always to call somebody at his
speed.

It's easy to tell the other station's speed, but often I dont remember where
I have set mine the last time. Then I have to touch the control to see the
value, and to adjust it if needed.

Not a big deal, but this lead me to an idea for Auto CW speed function. When
turned ON, it would match the keyer speed to the received CW signal speed.
In SEMI position, it would do the same not permanently, but on tapping the
speed control knob.

A shortcut from the wpm meter, already embeded in the text decoder, toward
the internal keyer would add some artificial intellect to K3, and would
contribute to more courtesy on the bands :).

73 Val LZ1VB

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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
Just like kids jacking up their cars, cutting holes in the hoods, and 
painting flames behind the wheels. THEY think it looks neat but later they 
can't even give the goofy looking thing away.

I like my tuning knob to spin too so I just built it not touching the felt. 
I scan with my finger or thumb just touching the face of the knob, not in 
the dimple, they don't work for me.  Works just fine.  Does not need to be 
heavier, bigger, shiny, lighted, flashing, heated, pink, or polka-dot.

73, de Jim KG0KP

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To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] knobs


 No!  No!  Not knobs again, please!

 The original knobs on the K1, KX1, K2  K3 are all aesthetically and
 ergonomically perfect.

 In a recent message, eric manning eric.mann...@engr.uvic.ca wrote ...

I put the knob from my defunct ICOM 740 on my K2.

Very nice in every way altho it hides one
of the little ^ symbols on the display.
 -- 
 David G4DMP
 Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread Doug Turnbull
Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.  

  73 Doug EI2CN




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[Elecraft] K2/Indiana QSO Party

2010-05-02 Thread Ivin Flint
WOW!  I used my K2 for the first time in the Indiana QSO party.  I got it too 
late for last years event.  My K2 is QRP only and it performed GREAT!  I know 
it has been said but everything works so well in it.  Noise blanker, Audio 
Filter, and Auto tuner, along with the stock stuff.  I have my personal highest 
claimed score this year even with band conditions pretty down last night thanks 
to a FANTASTIC receiver.

My only issue/glitch was on SSB the screen read High Current (I think that is 
the wording) once in awhile.  Does that mean I have my gain set too high? Or do 
I have some small problem?  No complaints though.  I just want to share my JOY! 
 

Ivin W9ILF


  
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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread Gary Gregory
Can't come soon enough...[?]

73's
Gary

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote:

 Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
 delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.

  73 Doug EI2CN




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For everything else there's Mastercard!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread lstavenhagen

Now this is a feature I'd support too Over the years I've gotten
reasonably good at guessing speeds, but I still tend to overestimate this. I
was working some of the stations in the 7QP contest last night with my K3
and RUMLog and on several occasions estimated their speed at around 30wpm.
But when I adjusted the keyer to their speed it was closer to 25wpm. 

It'd be pretty cool if the rig had the option to figure out the character
speed and be able to adjust the keyer accordingly. Tho if the sending
station is using Farnsworth weighting, you might still want to do this
manually

As for a permanent display of keying speed, yeah I can see how the lack of
real estate on the display is a problem here. But I'd support that too (tho
RUMLog for example always displays the keyer speed in the keyer dialog)

73,
LS
W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] K2/Indiana QSO Party

2010-05-02 Thread lstavenhagen

that little RX is really something especially on a crowded band, isn't it? 

The HI CUR reading is probably just because the default setting for when
this comes in is kind of low. My K2 seems to draw the most current on 15M
for some reason and I was always getting the warning when I turned up the
power on that band. I just set mine a bit higher and that got rid of it.

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Phil Hystad
If this feature existed I think I would still choose to set my speed manually.  
Changing keyer speed by large amounts is always something that takes me a
few moments to get used to.  For example, if I hear a guy CQ'ing at 15 wpm
and I am operating at 25 wpm, if I were to immediately go to 15 wpm I would
be making lots of mistakes, such as dropping out dots and dashes which is my
usual mistake for such a move.

73, phil, K7PEH


On May 2, 2010, at 8:54 AM, lstavenhagen wrote:

 
 Now this is a feature I'd support too Over the years I've gotten
 reasonably good at guessing speeds, but I still tend to overestimate this. I
 was working some of the stations in the 7QP contest last night with my K3
 and RUMLog and on several occasions estimated their speed at around 30wpm.
 But when I adjusted the keyer to their speed it was closer to 25wpm. 
 
 It'd be pretty cool if the rig had the option to figure out the character
 speed and be able to adjust the keyer accordingly. Tho if the sending
 station is using Farnsworth weighting, you might still want to do this
 manually
 
 As for a permanent display of keying speed, yeah I can see how the lack of
 real estate on the display is a problem here. But I'd support that too (tho
 RUMLog for example always displays the keyer speed in the keyer dialog)
 
 73,
 LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread DK4XL

... and the next step would be that the K3 is looking
automatically for cw qsos in the speed you choose ?

IMHO, there are some other things to improve in the K3, 
for example increasing the possible max cw speed 
from 50 to at least 60 wpm or more.

Martin
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[Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Ken Kopp

Of absolutely no interest to me.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
One of the most used controls in my K3 is the CW speed. The most missed
permanent information on the display is the speed too.

Me too!  Phil - AD5X

It's easy to tell the other station's speed, but often I dont remember 
where
I have set mine the last time. Then I have to touch the control to see the
value, and to adjust it if needed.

Again - me too!  Phil - AD5X

Not a big deal, but this lead me to an idea for Auto CW speed function. When
turned ON, it would match the keyer speed to the received CW signal speed.
In SEMI position, it would do the same not permanently, but on tapping the
speed control knob.

I think this is a good idea.
Phil - AD5X



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread lstavenhagen

Ah, very good point when using paddles I do this too. Tho I just always
make mistakes with the paddles anyway hi hi.

But if you're using a keyboard, I can see how it could be useful. Oh well,
not something I'll get rid of my K3 for if it's never implemented but seems
like it could be neat to have.

Finally got my Macbook Pro back from the repair shop. And it's way quieter
in terms of RFI/EMI than my Macbook so I'm likely not going to be using
paddles very much in any event

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] A few thoughts on the K3 as an AM SWBC receiver

2010-05-02 Thread Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
Chuck,

The antenna I'm using is the Alpha-Delta DX-SWL sloper. It is 60 ft long and 
has two strategically placed resonators (coils) which cause it to be 
resonant in or near the SWBC bands down to 90 meters. Because our ham bands 
tend to be right next door to SWBC bands (40/41 meters, 30/31 meters, 20/19 
meters 15/16 meters, etc.), it's also easy to load it up using the K3's KAT3 
unit, and I use it to work 30 meters CW mostly. Also loads up on all other 
HF ham bands except for 160. The KAT3 is a recent addition to my K3, and 
it's a wonderful little autotuner. The DX-SWL isn't a real efficient ham 
transmitting antenna for these bands, but it does load. My primary ham 
interest is 6 meters and I have stacked yagis on that band, so this little 
wire antenna is mostly for SW listening -- but it does work as a TX antenna, 
and seems to work best on 30/40 meters.

When using it for SWBC listening, I either put the KAT3 in BYPASS mode, or 
just leave it tuned up on the closest ham band. I see no difference in 
signal strength either way. There is, to the best of my knowledge, no way to 
tune the KAT3 outside the ham bands. If there is a way, maybe somebody 
would like to share that. :-)

Bill W5WVO


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 Interesting post Bill, and thanks for the url.

 I also enjoy listening to SWBC. I don't have the K3 general coverage 
 module
 nor the 6k filter. I listen to SWBC with my Radio Shack DX-394 receiver.
 I've thought about using the K3 for SWLing. I wonder how the K3 would
 perform compared to the DX-394?

 Also, I'm currently using a  non-resonant dipole of about 200 ft in 
 length.
 I switch this back and forth between the K3 (with internal ATU) and the
 DX-394 (kind of a pain).
 How does your dedicated SWL antenna differ?

 And lastly, do you use an antenna tuner with you K3 SWBC listening?

 Thanks and hope you don't mind the questions.

 chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I can see how a display would be nice, but with the busy LCD that is not easily 
modified I don't know where they would put it.  I don't see how auto speed 
would be possible unless you always worked strong signals and never try to dig 
one out of the QRM.  Personally I use Bugs and Straight Keys most of the time 
and prefer my WinKeyer to the one in the K3.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Val v...@vip.bg
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 8:38:45 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

One of the most used controls in my K3 is the CW speed. The most missed
permanent information on the display is the speed too.

This is because the ham politeness demands always to call somebody at his
speed.

It's easy to tell the other station's speed, but often I dont remember where
I have set mine the last time. Then I have to touch the control to see the
value, and to adjust it if needed.

Not a big deal, but this lead me to an idea for Auto CW speed function. When
turned ON, it would match the keyer speed to the received CW signal speed.
In SEMI position, it would do the same not permanently, but on tapping the
speed control knob.

A shortcut from the wpm meter, already embeded in the text decoder, toward
the internal keyer would add some artificial intellect to K3, and would
contribute to more courtesy on the bands :).

73 Val LZ1VB

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Re: [Elecraft] knobs

2010-05-02 Thread Rick Prather
Some threads should be labeled Zombie Threads

You just can't kill 'em..

Rick
K6LE

On 5/2/2010, at 8:37 , Gary Gregory wrote:

 Can't come soon enough...[?]
 
 73's
 Gary
 
 On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote:
 
 Tastes vary, the subject is to do with Elecraft products and we have a
 delete keys. In time the thread will terminate.
 
 73 Doug EI2CN
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] A few thoughts on the K3 as an AM SWBC receiver

2010-05-02 Thread callen1155

Thanks for the reply Bill.

I also have the KAT3 auto tuner.

I have read about SWL listeners using antenna tuners but I'm unclear as to
what it  buys you... just fishing for info.

I'd be interested to know if others on the forum use their K3 for SWLing and
their experience/opinion of the K3 in that capacity??

thanks again.
chuck
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Rick Prather
Since you use cocoaModem, one work around for this is use it to copy the CW.  I 
sometimes do that for a backup and it will display the incoming CW speed.

Rick
K6LE

On 5/2/2010, at 8:54 , lstavenhagen wrote:

 
 Now this is a feature I'd support too Over the years I've gotten
 reasonably good at guessing speeds, but I still tend to overestimate this. I
 was working some of the stations in the 7QP contest last night with my K3
 and RUMLog and on several occasions estimated their speed at around 30wpm.
 But when I adjusted the keyer to their speed it was closer to 25wpm. 
 
 It'd be pretty cool if the rig had the option to figure out the character
 speed and be able to adjust the keyer accordingly. Tho if the sending
 station is using Farnsworth weighting, you might still want to do this
 manually
 
 As for a permanent display of keying speed, yeah I can see how the lack of
 real estate on the display is a problem here. But I'd support that too (tho
 RUMLog for example always displays the keyer speed in the keyer dialog)
 
 73,
 LS
 W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread The Smiths

The K3 CAN display the incoming cw speed , it's in the CWT text reading menu.  
you can have it up all the time.  Turning the knob to set your speed isn't that 
hard once you know where you should be. I don't belive there's a need for auto 
setting on this.
 
 Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 08:54:20 -0700
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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed
 
 
 Now this is a feature I'd support too Over the years I've gotten
 reasonably good at guessing speeds, but I still tend to overestimate this. I
 was working some of the stations in the 7QP contest last night with my K3
 and RUMLog and on several occasions estimated their speed at around 30wpm.
 But when I adjusted the keyer to their speed it was closer to 25wpm. 
 
 It'd be pretty cool if the rig had the option to figure out the character
 speed and be able to adjust the keyer accordingly. Tho if the sending
 station is using Farnsworth weighting, you might still want to do this
 manually
 
 As for a permanent display of keying speed, yeah I can see how the lack of
 real estate on the display is a problem here. But I'd support that too (tho
 RUMLog for example always displays the keyer speed in the keyer dialog)
 
 73,
 LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Kok Chen

On May 2, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Rick Prather wrote:

 I sometimes do that [using cocoaModem] for a backup and it will display the 
 incoming CW speed.

Should probably qualify it with roughly the incoming CW speed when the SNR is 
good, and the guy sending the Morse is not afflicted by some weird swing :-) 
:-)

That said, it is definitely much easier for a machine to guess the Morse speed 
than for it to guess what characters were sent. HI.

73
Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Rick Prather
Yes,

I never use the cocoaModem display for setting speed.  Just mentioned it as
a workaround if someone feels they need it.

I usually am able to guesstimate the speed close enough to get a QSO going
and can trim from there.

About the only time I use the display in ccM is when I want to get an idea
how fast some smoking dude is going.

Rick
K6LE


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Kok Chen c...@mac.com wrote:


 On May 2, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Rick Prather wrote:

  I sometimes do that [using cocoaModem] for a backup and it will display
 the incoming CW speed.

 Should probably qualify it with roughly the incoming CW speed when the SNR
 is good, and the guy sending the Morse is not afflicted by some weird swing
 :-) :-)

 That said, it is definitely much easier for a machine to guess the Morse
 speed than for it to guess what characters were sent. HI.

 73
 Chen, W7AY


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[Elecraft] K2 RS-232 Interface

2010-05-02 Thread Elliott Lawrence
I've read the KIO2 operating instruction for use with the K2 but I am not 
clear on the following:

Does the K2 put out VFOA frequency information on the pin 2 TXD and pin3 RXD 
lines continuously?  Does it need to be polled to obtain this info?  I want 
to use it with a Steppir interface that works perfectly with the K3!!

Thanks for any responses,
73
Elliott WA6TLA 

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[Elecraft] [K3] Bad COM port made K3 not work

2010-05-02 Thread Carl Clawson
I arrived at a friend's station for the 7th area QSO party at the crack of
dark yesterday morning and they were pulling hairs out over a misbehaving
K3. F/W V3.79. None of them knew the K3, whose owner hadn't arrived yet. It
had been working fine the previous evening as they were prepping for the
contest.

It would power up but as soon as you hit any button it would send a
continuous side tone. I don't know if it was actually transmitting but the
user interface would become mostly non responsive. You could turn it off
with the power button and that was about it. There was no ERR KEY or ERR PTT
display, so it doesn't seem like it was just a problem with the radio keying
up. We were using VOX and not the COM port for PTT, but I forget if VOX was
on. We couldn't have turned if off if it had been. There was one of the ERR
BP# codes showing because the CONFIG menu wrongly had the KPBF3 installed. I
don't know how that happened but I suspect someone got into the CONFIG menu
and did that by mistake. Likely that's an unrelated fact. Also, this was a
real COM port, not a USB adapter. There wasn't any radio control software
running on the PC, although N1MM had been running OK with the K3 earlier.

The Yaesu guy in the crowd loudly gloated that this was yet more evidence
that the K3 is a flaky radio. I tried to ignore him while I worked on it. I
unplugged it from its COM port and suddenly the radio was fine. Something
with the port was seriously disrupting the radio firmware. We proceeded to
use a different port.

No problem now, just a war story and something rather odd that I don't think
I've heard before. I'd be interested if anyone had a clue what might have
caused it. Details are sketchy and/or missing because I was doing this under
pressure to get up and running in the contest, with a Yaesu guy yelling in
my ear.

73, Carl WS7L
K3 #486




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Bad COM port made K3 not work

2010-05-02 Thread Tom W8JI
 caused it. Details are sketchy and/or missing because I 
 was doing this under
 pressure to get up and running in the contest, with a 
 Yaesu guy yelling in
 my ear.


Them darn Yaesu guys really hang in an exclusive group. You 
should have asked him if you could join his little click. 
:-)


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[Elecraft] P3 Questions concerning measurement

2010-05-02 Thread Fred Atchley
Hi all. While waiting for the P3 I have a few questions on setup and
measurement. Since I have never used LP pan or similar devices I'll need
some Elmering. Specifically there are two capabilities listed in the
Elecraft P3 page that I need help on:

1.  Adjustable reference level and amplitude range scaling 

2.  User calibration of the display to show absolute signal level in dBm 

Number 1 suggests two parts. It has an adjustable reference level.
Question: WRT what reference: 0 dBm, the bottom of the spectrum display
baseline or some particular value? The other part adds amplitude range
scaling. Is this a separate function or is part 2 the conclusion of the
process? 

My second question concerns the use of the absolute signal level in dBm. If
I am assisting a Ham friend in adjusting his signal, will this capability
allow me to evaluate such things as his BW and compression? I know that I
can do that now by ear but will the P3 give me a visual clue WRT onset of
changes over-the-air? I have an HP Spectrum Analyzer that I have used to
check my own K3 on- the-bench. So the phrase over-the-air is the big
question.  

These questions do not pertain to the main reason I am looking forward to
the P3 (I.e. operating) but rather to the other useful possibilities. I
appreciate the group's Elmering.

73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 #2241, P3 #?

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[Elecraft] Help needed on K2/100

2010-05-02 Thread RONALD R FREEMAN

Hi...

The PTT feature quite working on my K2/100.  I've checked the circuit up to U1 
on the SSB Adapter and it appears OK.  In receive, pin 6 has approximately 6 
volts on it and with PTT activated on the microphone, it drops to zero.  
However, no relays click and no RF out appears in the display.  The rig 
continues to receive any signal it is tuned to but I can hear my own audio over 
that signal if I talk into the Mic.  So, I conclude the SSB Adapter is 
processing the audio signal from the mic, but where do I check next to see why 
it isn't triggering the transmitter?  Any ideas appreciated.  BTW, Tune works 
fine with output matching whatever level the display is showing.

Ron  W0LPZ
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Help needed on K2/100

2010-05-02 Thread Mark Bayern
Is is possible the output power is set to zero? Is the rig set to CW-TEST mode?

Mark AD5SS



On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 3:21 PM, RONALD R FREEMAN rfreema...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi...

 The PTT feature quite working on my K2/100.  I've checked the circuit up to 
 U1 on the SSB Adapter and it appears OK.  In receive, pin 6 has approximately 
 6 volts on it and with PTT activated on the microphone, it drops to zero.  
 However, no relays click and no RF out appears in the display.  The rig 
 continues to receive any signal it is tuned to but I can hear my own audio 
 over that signal if I talk into the Mic.  So, I conclude the SSB Adapter is 
 processing the audio signal from the mic, but where do I check next to see 
 why it isn't triggering the transmitter?  Any ideas appreciated.  BTW, Tune 
 works fine with output matching whatever level the display is showing.

 Ron  W0LPZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Help needed on K2/100

2010-05-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron,

Because you can hear your own audio when you talk into the mic, I 
suspect that you could have the K2 menu set to SSBA bAL - it will do 
exactly that with the menu setting, it feeds part of the signal back 
into the receiver.  It is usually used for nulling the carrier balance.

Also check to see if the display L or U is blinking - if so, you 
have inadvertently set the K2 to VOX - Hold the VOX button several times 
until you see Ptt in the display.

If neither of those conditions exist, then please tell us and ask again.

73,
Don W3FPR

RONALD R FREEMAN wrote:
 Hi...

 The PTT feature quite working on my K2/100.  I've checked the circuit up to 
 U1 on the SSB Adapter and it appears OK.  In receive, pin 6 has approximately 
 6 volts on it and with PTT activated on the microphone, it drops to zero.  
 However, no relays click and no RF out appears in the display.  The rig 
 continues to receive any signal it is tuned to but I can hear my own audio 
 over that signal if I talk into the Mic.  So, I conclude the SSB Adapter is 
 processing the audio signal from the mic, but where do I check next to see 
 why it isn't triggering the transmitter?  Any ideas appreciated.  BTW, Tune 
 works fine with output matching whatever level the display is showing.

 Ron  W0LPZ
 
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[Elecraft] K2 PTT problem

2010-05-02 Thread RONALD R FREEMAN

Hi Don:

The SSBA is set to 3 and not to BAL.  Good hint and I had to go check it.

The VOX is set to PTT.  I've tried all the options there.

I still feel it is something stupid I did in the menu, but I sure can't find 
it!!!

73's

Ron
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Ralph Parker
...this lead me to an idea for Auto CW speed function. When turned ON,
it would match the keyer speed to the received CW signal speed...

Go get him, Joe...

VE7XF

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[Elecraft] ECN/20 relay requester?

2010-05-02 Thread Kevin Rock
During the 20 meter Elecraft Net I was being QRMed by someone asking for a 
relay.  No call sign or I could have checked him in.  Whoever you are you were 
579 to me.  All you really needed to do was stop sending on top of my calls so 
I could hear you better.  Plus sending your call would have facilitated my 
checking you in.  I don't think anyone else heard you except me.
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 PTT problem

2010-05-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
OK Ron,

Now we get a bit more complicated, the easy stuff is out of the way.
Go to CW mode and see if you can key the K2 with the mike PTT button.  
Depending on how you have the INP menu set you may get either a string 
of dots or a long key-down.
If that works, the problem is not with the base K2 firmware, but might 
be with the KSB2 (if that test above does not work OK, then you have a 
bad input on the K2 firmware chip - U6 pin 30.

If and only if the above checked OK, then  switch to SSB mode and hold 
the PTT Button in while checking KSB2 U1 pin 26 to see if it goes to a 
high level (it should)  Also check U1 pin 15 which should also go high 
during PTT. (A high level is greater than 4 volts, but will likely be 
about 6).
Also make certain the OP1 filter is selected for SSB receive and check 
KSB2 U1 pin 21 - it should be high during receive and drop to close to 
zero during transmit (or PTT depressed).
If all check OK, then the KSB2 firmware chip is getting the proper 
inputs and doing its proper function for PTT and SSB transmit and 
receive, so if that is the case, we will have to look for something more 
obscure.  If all those checks on the KSB2 board do not work out, then 
plan to replace the KSB2 firmware chip.


73,
Don W3FPR

RONALD R FREEMAN wrote:
 Hi Don:

 The SSBA is set to 3 and not to BAL.  Good hint and I had to go check it.

 The VOX is set to PTT.  I've tried all the options there.

 I still feel it is something stupid I did in the menu, but I sure can't find 
 it!!!

 73's

 Ron
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Bad COM port made K3 not work

2010-05-02 Thread Bill W4ZV


W8JI wrote:
 
 caused it. Details are sketchy and/or missing because I 
 was doing this under
 pressure to get up and running in the contest, with a 
 Yaesu guy yelling in
 my ear.

 
 Them darn Yaesu guys really hang in an exclusive group. You 
 should have asked him if you could join his little click. 
 :-)
 
 

ROFL Tom!  For any who missed it...click = clique and is a wordplay on
Yaesu's 15 year history of key clicks (FT-1000D thru Mark V).

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Questions concerning measurement

2010-05-02 Thread Alan Bloom
Hi Fred,

The amplitude scale on the P3 shows the signal level in dBm at the K3's
antenna connector.  As the K3 attenuator and preamp are turned on or
off, the P3 automatically adjusts its internal gain so the display
always reads the correct signal level.

The reference level and scale can be adjusted from the P3 front panel.
Reference level is the level in dBm at the bottom of the display.
Scale is the difference in dB between the top and bottom of the
display.  So, for example, if the REF LVL is -120 dBm and the SCALE is
80 dB, then signal levels between -40 dBm and -120 dBm can be seen.

One complicating factor is that the P3 automatically adjusts its DSP
sample rate proportional to the frequency span.  As a consequence, the
noise level drops as you narrow the span.  (That works both for thermal
noise and band noise coming in the antenna.)  There is a MENU option to
have the REF LVL change automatically as you vary the span to keep the
noise level at the same point on the display.  In this way you always
get the best possible dynamic range.

On my to-do list is to add a calibration routine, similar to the
S-meter calibration in the K3.  The signal level at the K3's IF output
connector changes somewhat from band to band and from unit to unit.  The
accuracy should be plenty good enough for giving signal reports on the
air, but for those who want to do more accurate measurements it would be
nice to be able to calibrate it.  Even without calibration, the RELATIVE
amplitude accuracy is excellent, limited only by the display resolution.
So if you tell Alex that his signal is 7 dB weaker than Monica's, he
will have no grounds for argument.  :=)

73,

Alan N1AL



On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 13:12 -0700, Fred Atchley wrote:
 Hi all. While waiting for the P3 I have a few questions on setup and
 measurement. Since I have never used LP pan or similar devices I’ll
 need some Elmering. Specifically there are two capabilities listed in
 the Elecraft P3 page that I need help on:
 
 1.  Adjustable reference level and amplitude range scaling 
 
 2.  User calibration of the display to show absolute signal level in
 dBm 
 
 Number 1 suggests two parts. It has an “adjustable reference level”.
 Question: WRT what reference: 0 dBm, the bottom of the spectrum
 display baseline or some particular value? The other part adds
 “amplitude range scaling”. Is this a separate function or is part 2
 the conclusion of the process? 
 
 My second question concerns the use of the absolute signal level in
 dBm. If I am assisting a Ham friend in adjusting his signal, will this
 capability allow me to evaluate such things as his BW and compression?
 I know that I can do that now by ear but will the P3 give me a visual
 clue WRT onset of changes over-the-air? I have an HP Spectrum Analyzer
 that I have used to check my own K3 on- the-bench. So the phrase
 “over-the-air” is the big question.  
 
 These questions do not pertain to the main reason I am looking forward
 to the P3 (I.e. operating) but rather to the “other” useful
 possibilities. I appreciate the group’s Elmering.
 
 73, Fred, AE6IC, K3 #2241, P3 #?
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Auto CW Speed

2010-05-02 Thread Dave Agsten
I see more use for the CW/CW-Rev config option than I do for Auto CW Speed. In 
fact, auto CW speed is of no use at all here. 
 73,
Dave N8AG 


  
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for May 2nd 3rd, 2010

2010-05-02 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   Both bands had QSB and some noise.  I was hearing you all much better than 
most of you were hearing me.  I had one station calling for a relay who was 
very good copy.  Too bad he did not send his call sign while I was not calling. 
 
   As I mentioned last week my database crashed.  The blanks in the reports 
will gradually be filled in as I rebuild from an old backup.  None of the 
monthly back ups survived until I got back to March of 2008.  I dug around the 
house and found all the paper documents from then until now.  All I need to do 
is build the system again and reinsert all the data for all the nets over the 
past two years.  I am not sure how long that will take so the numbers won't be 
right until it is done.  

   On to the lists =

  On 14050 kHz at 2200z:
NO8V - John - MI - K3 
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 
KL7QOW - Mike - AK - K?
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422

  On 7045 kHz at z:
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K?
N0TA - John - CO - K3
NO8V - John - MI - K3
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866

   If you had your rig before two years ago and checked into the nets then I 
have your current data.  If not then I will find it and insert it over time.  I 
do not know how long it will take until I have everything back again but bear 
with me.  It will get done.  The hard drive is gradually eating itself so I am 
now working on a spare computer.  I need to buy a hard drive tomorrow so I can 
Ghost everything which survived onto a new one.  Then I reformat this one and 
see if it is worth using it somewhere else.  Only days before the crash I 
thought of making a copy on another computer but something came up.  Now I can 
repent in leisure ;)  
   Currently the wind is blowing pretty well and the forecast is for 40 to 50 
mph winds tomorrow.  Only the dead, hanging branches are of any concern because 
the wind storms routinely clear out any weak ones.  Now to continue banging 
away at the keyboard to recreate what I lost.  When I scanned the drive there 
were no orphan files to recover.  For some reason the simple act of opening 
Star Office overwrote the file.  I have no idea how that happened.  The routine 
backups getting zapped is also surprising.  But since I have a network future 
backups will be distributed to at least two other computers.  Two years of data 
is too painful to recreate on a regular basis.
   Until next week stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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