[Elecraft] [K3] Anyone Interested in A 750 Hz, 8-Pole (INRAD) Roofing Filter?
As I see it, some benefits of a 750 Hz width filter are that ... o It's about the optimal width if you are only getting one CW filter for general (i.e. non-contest) use. o For all but the most serious CW contesters, it would make a perfect one/two combination along with either the INRAD 400 or 250 Hz filter. o In most applications it can replace both the 1 kHz and the 500 Hz 8-pole filters, thus freeing an existing slot or saving on an initial purchase. Please email webmas...@unpcbs.com to express your interest in purchasing a 750 Hz 8-pole INRAD roofing filter for your K3. If there is sufficient demand, then we will special order them in batches of ten, and offer them at $125 plus our standard shipping and handling charges. We do not intend to stock these filters, although if demand turns out to be astronomical then we would certainly reconsider. TNX 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 webmaster, http://www.unpcbs.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 with SCS PTC-IIusb - Pactor 3
Hello Group, Have any of you used SCS PTC -IIusb pactor modem with K2? Could you advise me how to set up the cables connection? The modem runs well with my IC7800 but I want to experiment it with K2. Thanks in advance! 73 Johnny Siu VR2XMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Anyone Interested in A 750 Hz, 8-Pole (INRAD) Roofing Filter?
I would prefer to see some sort of add-on board that would allow for more filters to be installed so I could have at least one more or perhaps 2 more filters in my K3. The 750 would be too wide for CW and would not replace the 500 in my radio. I own the following; 200Hz, 500Hz, 1k, 2.1k, 2.7k, 6kHz. They all work well and have their own purposes. I would love to toss out the 2.7 as it is too broad for SSB but for an unclear reason, we cannot use the 2.1 to transmit through. So, one of my 6 filters cannot be used because there are only 5 slots. I want all 6. I would love to add a 12kHz for FM if there was space for it too as a 7th filter. W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hvizdak Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: supp...@unpcbs.com Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Anyone Interested in A 750 Hz, 8-Pole (INRAD) Roofing Filter? As I see it, some benefits of a 750 Hz width filter are that ... o It's about the optimal width if you are only getting one CW filter for general (i.e. non-contest) use. o For all but the most serious CW contesters, it would make a perfect one/two combination along with either the INRAD 400 or 250 Hz filter. o In most applications it can replace both the 1 kHz and the 500 Hz 8-pole filters, thus freeing an existing slot or saving on an initial purchase. Please email webmas...@unpcbs.com to express your interest in purchasing a 750 Hz 8-pole INRAD roofing filter for your K3. If there is sufficient demand, then we will special order them in batches of ten, and offer them at $125 plus our standard shipping and handling charges. We do not intend to stock these filters, although if demand turns out to be astronomical then we would certainly reconsider. TNX 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 webmaster, http://www.unpcbs.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z lstavenhagen wrote: Heh. The new QSK is so fast it picks up bounce on the Dah contact on my Vibroplex, hi hi. Zowie 73, LS W5QD -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-4-03-CW-mode-Ultra-fast-break-in-VOX-CW-up-to-100-WPM-tp5178377p5198534.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: R91 RF Board
At some time during the life of my K3 I have changed the SMD resistor R91 from 100 ohms to 22 ohms. I can't find the mod sheet that describes this change so do not know the reason for the change. However, although the latest schematics (Sht 3 of 4) shows an asterisk against R91 indicating that the value has been changed, it now shows the value back at 100 ohms. Can anyone shed any light as to why the resistor was changed, and should I change it back to 100 ohms again? What value is R91 in current K3 production? Thanks David G4DMP -- +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ | David M Pratt G4DMP, Kippax, Leeds, UK | | K1 #1117; KX1 #0052; K2 #1583; K3 #0186 | +- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 - Problem with KAT2 installation
Folks I'm hoping somebody might be able to point me in the right direction, so thank you in advance for reading this. My K2 is serial number 573, so you can see that that I built it many years ago. Similarly, I built and incorporated the KAT2 Antenna Tuner almost as many years ago. However, the KAT2 has not been used for a long time, as I later moved on to installing the 100W PA lid. Although the KAT 2 was working fine when I last had it in the K2 (must be a good few year ago), when I came to replace the 100W lid with the KAT2 (and battery) lid yesterday I discovered there is now a problem with the KAT2. With J8 securely and correctly mated with P4 on the K2 Control Board, the rig will not power up properly. After an extremely brief burst of (probably normal) sound from the speaker, the S Meter goes to full deflection, and the rig goes silent. It is as if the rig is in Tx mode, although there is no RF output. I can access the KAT2 related items in the menu but, unless KAT2's J8 is disconnected from P4, the rig will not power up correctly. I am not aware of any mishap having occurred to KAT2 whilst it resided mounted in its lid, but stored away in a box, but wonder whether anybody has any suggestions as to where first to look? Many thanks. 73 Peter G3XJS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: R91 RF Board
David Pratt-4 wrote: At some time during the life of my K3 I have changed the SMD resistor R91 from 100 ohms to 22 ohms. I can't find the mod sheet that describes this change so do not know the reason for the change. Google is your friend...Googling k3 r91 rf yields: http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg70378.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-R91-RF-Board-tp5198784p5198955.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU
Elecraft List Readers: I bought a new PC to manage my home wireless network, along with a new Verizon modem/wireless router - lighting took the old ones out earlier this week but not my K3 and K2 and other radio equipment. The new Compaq is much faster than the old computer and runs Windows 7. The wireless is working and I can connect to the internet from the new computer but neither my XYL's MacBook or my HP/laptop can connect to the wireelss system. The Geek Squad at BestBuy wasn't much help, saying only it happens with Window 7 and the best way to resolve it is with a home visit... starting at $149.95! I have been to the control panel to trouble shoot the network and internet connection but it's unable to diagnose any problem. Have any of you experienced a similar problem and , if so, how were you able to resolve it? 73, H. Cary, K4TM K3-100 # 3448, K2-100, #4991 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU
Hi Cary Check to see if your router has an accelorator enabled, such as 802.11n which your new Compaq can accomodate but unfortunately your older Dell and Macbook may not have the facility. If you are comfortable at accessing the settings of your router select 802.11g and see if your Dell and Macbook resolve the network. Also check that, if using encryption, that you have the correct passphrase / key in all the two machines. Hopefully others will respond with other possible remedies. Regards Nidge (G0NIG) IO93dv - Original Message - From: Hunsdon Cary III h3c...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU Elecraft List Readers: I bought a new PC to manage my home wireless network, along with a new Verizon modem/wireless router - lighting took the old ones out earlier this week but not my K3 and K2 and other radio equipment. The new Compaq is much faster than the old computer and runs Windows 7. The wireless is working and I can connect to the internet from the new computer but neither my XYL's MacBook or my HP/laptop can connect to the wireelss system. The Geek Squad at BestBuy wasn't much help, saying only it happens with Window 7 and the best way to resolve it is with a home visit... starting at $149.95! I have been to the control panel to trouble shoot the network and internet connection but it's unable to diagnose any problem. Have any of you experienced a similar problem and , if so, how were you able to resolve it? 73, H. Cary, K4TM K3-100 # 3448, K2-100, #4991 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2948 - Release Date: 06/19/10 07:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (no subject)
Hi, Recently I was able to do a QSO on AM for the first time using my K3. Yes, I have the 6 Khz filter installed. As I was setting power I found I could dial in about 100 watts the same as SSB. Realizing that would over work the PA I brought it back to 25 watts and had a very nice QSO with a good audio report. Afterward, I checked the specs and instructions in the Owner's Manual and could find nothing about AM power rating. What should be the power rating for the K3 when transmitting AM? Please put that information in the manual. Would it be possible to limit the AM power with a software update to eliminate the chance of transmitting a signal that might be illegal and/or to prevent possible damage to the KPA3? Thanks and have a great day. CU in the Colorado QSO Party Sept 4th, 2010. 73, Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I was not complaining about the K3 QSK+ or requesting that Elecraft do anything at all about this. Merely commenting on the curious effect (because it is the dit contact on bugs that is typically screwed up; not the dahs). I noted that it was a matter of technique, and I've found that I can reduce the dah 'tick' entirely by keeping my index finger on the paddle instead of slamming it like you do with the dit side. Actually, I think this may be better bug technique in any case because it is only the dit side that you need to inject the kinetic energy into. Eliminating the unnecessary finger travel on the dah side might allow greater speed (if I can get used to it...) Yes, you can use a bug in normal QSK mode perfectly well for all intents and purspses. But the QSK+ mode does sound better, even at non-QRQ speeds. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400, Guy.wrote: For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: drewko drew...@verizon.net To: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, June 19, 2010 11:58:02 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) I was not complaining about the K3 QSK+ or requesting that Elecraft do anything at all about this. Merely commenting on the curious effect (because it is the dit contact on bugs that is typically screwed up; not the dahs). I noted that it was a matter of technique, and I've found that I can reduce the dah 'tick' entirely by keeping my index finger on the paddle instead of slamming it like you do with the dit side. Actually, I think this may be better bug technique in any case because it is only the dit side that you need to inject the kinetic energy into. Eliminating the unnecessary finger travel on the dah side might allow greater speed (if I can get used to it...) Yes, you can use a bug in normal QSK mode perfectly well for all intents and purspses. But the QSK+ mode does sound better, even at non-QRQ speeds. 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400, Guy.wrote: For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU
Wrong reflector? 73, geo - n4ua Hunsdon Cary III wrote: Elecraft List Readers: I bought a new PC to manage my home wireless network, along with a new Verizon modem/wireless router - lighting took the old ones out earlier this week but not my K3 and K2 and other radio equipment. The new Compaq is much faster than the old computer and runs Windows 7. The wireless is working and I can connect to the internet from the new computer but neither my XYL's MacBook or my HP/laptop can connect to the wireelss system. The Geek Squad at BestBuy wasn't much help, saying only it happens with Window 7 and the best way to resolve it is with a home visit... starting at $149.95! I have been to the control panel to trouble shoot the network and internet connection but it's unable to diagnose any problem. Have any of you experienced a similar problem and , if so, how were you able to resolve it? 73, H. Cary, K4TM K3-100 # 3448, K2-100, #4991 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FS: K3/100 with many options
I have a K3/100 (serial no. 2255) with many options I would like to sell. It has the following options built in: Second RX Antenna tuner Voice recorder TCXO IF out module (KXV3) 1.8 kHz filter 500 hz filter 250 hz filter 200 hz filter MH-2 hand mic All manuals and power cord Not interested in trades, only selling to buy a new kit version K3/100 to build. I did some trading for this and seeing all the new products on the horizon I decided to start new and build up a complete Elecraft station, eventually the P3 and 500 watt amp as well. It looks excellent and works perfect. Always in a non smoking environment. Will ship and insure it in the US for $2895. US postal money order preferred. Please reply direct to n...@woh.rr.com for more information. I ca nsend pics if necessary. Thanks Tim NZ8J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. My preferred method of debouncing uses a Schottky hex buffer with a 2N7000 on the key line. In my experience with this circuit, it completely smoothes the key contact transitions on a bug. Another option that may work comes from microHam. K1EL developed a PIC-based debouncing circuit powered by a coin battery. It was initially used when users of certain Begali paddles were experiencing contact bounce resulting from dissimilar metals being used on early Begali key contacts. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/Begali.html Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going fast.. Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm on my bugs, and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I would recommend that someone actually look into keying with more than just the paddles or keyboards. Perhaps you have misunderstood that people are not trying to complain here Guy, yet let the Elecraft guys know that they should look into this. That's why it's still BETA software at this point... Don't poo poo it so fast. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) From: olin...@bellsouth.net To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: drew...@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Anyone Interested in A 750 Hz, 8-Pole (INRAD) Roofing Filter?
I would prefer to see some sort of add-on board that would allow for more filters to be installed so I could have at least one more or perhaps 2 more filters in my K3. This is a good idea but might not be practical if the KRX3 is installed or for use in the KRX3. An alternative would be the hinted at dual bandwidth (switchable) filters from Elecraft. I would love to toss out the 2.7 as it is too broad for SSB but for an unclear reason, we cannot use the 2.1 to transmit through. I would prefer a 2.4 KHz replacement for the normal 2.7/2.8 KHz filters on both transmit and receive which could the be coupled with the 1.8 or 1.5 KHz narrow filters). It also frustrates me that we can not use the 13 KHz (FM) filter for AM/ESSB transmit without resorting to setting the bandwidth to 6 KHz in the filter configuration. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/19/2010 8:20 AM, Bob Naumann wrote: I would prefer to see some sort of add-on board that would allow for more filters to be installed so I could have at least one more or perhaps 2 more filters in my K3. The 750 would be too wide for CW and would not replace the 500 in my radio. I own the following; 200Hz, 500Hz, 1k, 2.1k, 2.7k, 6kHz. They all work well and have their own purposes. I would love to toss out the 2.7 as it is too broad for SSB but for an unclear reason, we cannot use the 2.1 to transmit through. So, one of my 6 filters cannot be used because there are only 5 slots. I want all 6. I would love to add a 12kHz for FM if there was space for it too as a 7th filter. W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hvizdak Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: supp...@unpcbs.com Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Anyone Interested in A 750 Hz, 8-Pole (INRAD) Roofing Filter? As I see it, some benefits of a 750 Hz width filter are that ... o It's about the optimal width if you are only getting one CW filter for general (i.e. non-contest) use. o For all but the most serious CW contesters, it would make a perfect one/two combination along with either the INRAD 400 or 250 Hz filter. o In most applications it can replace both the 1 kHz and the 500 Hz 8-pole filters, thus freeing an existing slot or saving on an initial purchase. Please email webmas...@unpcbs.com to express your interest in purchasing a 750 Hz 8-pole INRAD roofing filter for your K3. If there is sufficient demand, then we will special order them in batches of ten, and offer them at $125 plus our standard shipping and handling charges. We do not intend to stock these filters, although if demand turns out to be astronomical then we would certainly reconsider. TNX 73, Gary KI4GGX K3 #2724 webmaster, http://www.unpcbs.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/No-Audio-from-speakers-after-FW-3-97-upgrade-K3-tp5199183p5199183.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU
Thanks to all who were willing to share their knowledge - reasonably certain it's a router protocol issue and can be resolved readily. And to David Gilbert, I'll be happy to help when you have a lawn mower problem. Many thanks, this is a terrific group! 73, Cary, K4TM Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 19, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Nidge \(Nigel Smith\) nig_sm...@o2.co.uk wrote: Hi Cary Check to see if your router has an accelorator enabled, such as 802.11n which your new Compaq can accomodate but unfortunately your older Dell and Macbook may not have the facility. If you are comfortable at accessing the settings of your router select 802.11g and see if your Dell and Macbook resolve the network. Also check that, if using encryption, that you have the correct passphrase / key in all the two machines. Hopefully others will respond with other possible remedies. Regards Nidge (G0NIG) IO93dv - Original Message - From: Hunsdon Cary III h3c...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Wireless SNAFU Elecraft List Readers: I bought a new PC to manage my home wireless network, along with a new Verizon modem/wireless router - lighting took the old ones out earlier this week but not my K3 and K2 and other radio equipment. The new Compaq is much faster than the old computer and runs Windows 7. The wireless is working and I can connect to the internet from the new computer but neither my XYL's MacBook or my HP/laptop can connect to the wireelss system. The Geek Squad at BestBuy wasn't much help, saying only it happens with Window 7 and the best way to resolve it is with a home visit... starting at $149.95! I have been to the control panel to trouble shoot the network and internet connection but it's unable to diagnose any problem. Have any of you experienced a similar problem and , if so, how were you able to resolve it? 73, H. Cary, K4TM K3-100 # 3448, K2-100, #4991 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html --- --- --- --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2948 - Release Date: 06/19/10 07:35:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
Hi Jim If you are interested in the details of AM you can read it here: http://www.w8ji.com/amplitude_modulation.htm Since the ratio of peak power to carrier is 4:1 in a symmetrically modulated AM signal, the carrier power must be 25 watts or less with a 100-watt PEP radio. I'm sure the K3 would be fine at 25 watts carrier, but without a suitable scope and to be safe and allow for any asymmetry in modulation it is a good idea to run less. 73 Tom - Original Message - From: Jim Harris w...@q.com To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:37 PM Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject) Hi, Recently I was able to do a QSO on AM for the first time using my K3. Yes, I have the 6 Khz filter installed. As I was setting power I found I could dial in about 100 watts the same as SSB. Realizing that would over work the PA I brought it back to 25 watts and had a very nice QSO with a good audio report. Afterward, I checked the specs and instructions in the Owner's Manual and could find nothing about AM power rating. What should be the power rating for the K3 when transmitting AM? Please put that information in the manual. Would it be possible to limit the AM power with a software update to eliminate the chance of transmitting a signal that might be illegal and/or to prevent possible damage to the KPA3? Thanks and have a great day. CU in the Colorado QSO Party Sept 4th, 2010. 73, Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. The dissimilar metals issue was not one of bounce. It was (and still is) because many of the new alloys include aluminum or other metals that produce a semiconducting oxide. That oxide results in a diode junction at the contacts with an offset (minimum contact voltage) of about 0.5V which upsets low power CMOS inputs or PIC devices that rely on differences in voltages to detect left, right, and both paddle closures on a single input pin. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. While the K1EL PIC has some debouncing properties, I suspect the real benefit is due to providing a buffered output that goes completely to ground (clean contacts). All current microHAM products that use the original K1EL WinKey now contain buffers (voltage comparators) to raise the switching threshold, eliminating any problem with offset due to the diode effect. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 6/19/2010 2:18 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. This sounds like an identical thread from last August. Just as some CW keyer circuits require debouncing when using paddle contacts having dissimilar metals, debouncing a bug is a good idea when used in the CW + application. My preferred method of debouncing uses a Schottky hex buffer with a 2N7000 on the key line. In my experience with this circuit, it completely smoothes the key contact transitions on a bug. Another option that may work comes from microHam. K1EL developed a PIC-based debouncing circuit powered by a coin battery. It was initially used when users of certain Begali paddles were experiencing contact bounce resulting from dissimilar metals being used on early Begali key contacts. I suspect that the microHam de-bouncer would be an excellent off-the-shelf solution to key bounce problems. http://www.microham-usa.com/Products/Begali.html Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100 with many options
So why exactly are you selling a K3 to buy a K3? Is it just that you didn't build this one and you want one that you built? ~Brett (N7MG) On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 13:58 -0400, NZ8J wrote: I have a K3/100 (serial no. 2255) with many options I would like to sell. It has the following options built in: Second RX Antenna tuner Voice recorder TCXO IF out module (KXV3) 1.8 kHz filter 500 hz filter 250 hz filter 200 hz filter MH-2 hand mic All manuals and power cord Not interested in trades, only selling to buy a new kit version K3/100 to build. I did some trading for this and seeing all the new products on the horizon I decided to start new and build up a complete Elecraft station, eventually the P3 and 500 watt amp as well. It looks excellent and works perfect. Always in a non smoking environment. Will ship and insure it in the US for $2895. US postal money order preferred. Please reply direct to n...@woh.rr.com for more information. I ca nsend pics if necessary. Thanks Tim NZ8J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
Do you have mono plugs on any of your speakers? ~Brett (N7MG) On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 11:13 -0700, K3PIN wrote: I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
No audio out of the radio speaker or external speaker after the FW upgrade? Steve From: Brett Howard [via Elecraft] Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 3:11 PM To: K3PIN Subject: Re: No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3 Do you have mono plugs on any of your speakers? ~Brett (N7MG) On Sat, 2010-06-19 at 11:13 -0700, K3PIN wrote: I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/No-Audio-from-speakers-after-FW-3-97-upgrade-K3-tp5199183p5199306.html To unsubscribe from No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3, click here. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/No-Audio-from-speakers-after-FW-3-97-upgrade-K3-tp5199183p5199319.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
Did / do you have a MONO speaker plug stuck in the speaker jack? That's usually an audio chip killer. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Contest cw speed and a ham since 1952
Peoples: I operate from quite a few dx spotsI have been on the air steady since 1952,,,call me old fashioned,call me crotchedy...BUTI never , ever answer or qso with a high speed cw station that does not slow down to my speed. Yes I do 35wpm, but I prever 20.sorry, had to vent my spleen somewhere. My, My, there are a lot of lids on the air todaybut then most of them do not know what lid refers to. Susan (Old lady of 76 years) If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 6:09 AM For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact area, a larger area? You tell me. I LOVE the new QSK (QRQ), but if I had to deal with that Tick sound on the dah contact, I would just not use it. Shame. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 05:37:18 -0700 From: drew...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Yes, I noticed this on my bug also. This happens almost entirely on characters that start with a 'dah'. I think this is because the index finger is off the paddle between characters and the initial attack is a little more forceful. Subsequent dahs in the same character sound fine, but that first one has a 'tick' (a spike by the sound of it). No problem at all with the dits. BTW, I don't think this is a matter of bug adjustment; you can get the same effect by tapping down on a straight key from a slight distance. So it is a matter of technique. I can avoid it on the bug by keeping my index finger resting against the paddle all the time and avoiding that first hard strike, but can't send as well that way; maybe with practice... 73, Drew AF2Z _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
I'm not sure what happened in your FW upgrade, but the U1 audio output chip is fragile. I have blown it twice now in two different radios. Both radios had the protective AF Output Mod installed. The chip is not replaceable in the field unless you are an expert at soldering TINY little pins, VERY close together. I'm a good solderer, and I had ordered the replacement chip, but, after looking at it, I chickened out and sent the DSP boards to the factory for repair. Elecraft, the speaker amp needs to be more robust. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -- From: K3PIN k3...@verizon.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 11:13 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3 I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/No-Audio-from-speakers-after-FW-3-97-upgrade-K3-tp5199183p5199183.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fw: No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
And the manual absolutely clear on the subject of mono speaker plugs. (:-)) 73! Ken - K0PP Elecraft, the speaker amp needs to be more robust. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K2] Transmitter alignment, No output on 12m
Hi all, I am working through the last stage in transmitter alignment - page 80 - and I've come across a problem. All goes smoothly until I switch to 10m. There I can maximize power output, but only to 1.9 W or so, so just shy of the 2 W target by adjusting L12 and L13. When I switch to 12, there is no output registered once I switch over to Tune. Adjusting C44 and C46 has no noticeable effect. I've made a careful inspection of the circuit board, and I don't see anything obvious. I was wondering if someone here could help me localize the problem? I was able to listen to some CW on 12m, but it wasn't a very strong signal. I'm listening on a buddistick inside my house, so I don't think I can expect much. Thanks for any guidance, Joe KC8YFH K2 sn 6773 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Did I do right
I know this is off topic, but this seems to be the only place where people know what they are talking about. I tried IE8hate it.couldnt get rid of itso I downloaded firefox. Did I do right using firefox instead of trying to find ie7 Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: From: drewko drew...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:16 AM Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1
This antenna has worked great for me with the KX-1 autotuner on 80, 40, 30 and 20: I bought a 50 ft spool of speaker wire from Radio Shack and un-zipped it to make two 50 ft wires. I think it's 18 gauge, but I'm sure that's not critical. Mine actually measured 51 ft 8 inches long (and I'm sure that's not critical either) Get one wire as high in the air as you can via any handy support(s) and lay the other on the ground - straight if I can, random directions if not. By the if I'm in, say, a third floor hotel room, one wire might go out the window to a tree in the parking lot, and the counterpoise drops out the window and goes along the ground next to the building. Ray K2HYD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1
I used to think, :just put a wire in the ocean...and voila good ground. Not soneed area of contactbronze screen wire cage works great. Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Albers alb...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Albers alb...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:50 AM This antenna has worked great for me with the KX-1 autotuner on 80, 40, 30 and 20: I bought a 50 ft spool of speaker wire from Radio Shack and un-zipped it to make two 50 ft wires. I think it's 18 gauge, but I'm sure that's not critical. Mine actually measured 51 ft 8 inches long (and I'm sure that's not critical either) Get one wire as high in the air as you can via any handy support(s) and lay the other on the ground - straight if I can, random directions if not. By the if I'm in, say, a third floor hotel room, one wire might go out the window to a tree in the parking lot, and the counterpoise drops out the window and goes along the ground next to the building. Ray K2HYD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Did I do right
Hello, I have been using Firefox for two years and Like it. 73 Ken K5DNL --- --- On Sat, 6/19/10, ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] Did I do right To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 3:47 PM I know this is off topic, but this seems to be the only place where people know what they are talking about. I tried IE8hate it.couldnt get rid of itso I downloaded firefox. Did I do right using firefox instead of trying to find ie7 Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: From: drewko drew...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:16 AM Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1
Yeah, you're right, Susan. I suspect our counterpoise wires are not so much acting as a ground, but rather are the other half of a doublet, occupying a position some distance above effective ground. 73 Ray K2HYD - Original Message - From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Albers alb...@embarqmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1 I used to think, :just put a wire in the ocean...and voila good ground. Not soneed area of contactbronze screen wire cage works great. Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Albers alb...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: Albers alb...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for KX-1 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:50 AM This antenna has worked great for me with the KX-1 autotuner on 80, 40, 30 and 20: I bought a 50 ft spool of speaker wire from Radio Shack and un-zipped it to make two 50 ft wires. I think it's 18 gauge, but I'm sure that's not critical. Mine actually measured 51 ft 8 inches long (and I'm sure that's not critical either) Get one wire as high in the air as you can via any handy support(s) and lay the other on the ground - straight if I can, random directions if not. By the if I'm in, say, a third floor hotel room, one wire might go out the window to a tree in the parking lot, and the counterpoise drops out the window and goes along the ground next to the building. Ray K2HYD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Interesting, Jim. I did a search of the PDF Owner's Manual and came up with zilch regarding AM transmit power suggestions or adjustments. That must be an oversight. Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net Recently I was able to do a QSO on AM for the first time using my K3. Yes, I have the 6 Khz filter installed. As I was setting power I found I could dial in about 100 watts the same as SSB. Realizing that would over work the PA I brought it back to 25 watts and had a very nice QSO with a good audio report. Afterward, I checked the specs and instructions in the Owner's Manual and could find nothing about AM power rating. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Audio Balance
I think the answer is no, but I'll ask anyway. For those of us who are asymmetrically hearing impaired, is there an audio balance control menu option for a single-receiver K3? Ski Exuberantly, Hank, W6SX Mammoth Lakes, California Elevation 8083 feet in John Muir's Range of Light __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 portable antenna
Arnie, et al: I have not had much luck with wire antennas from a hotel room--usually there's no way to string the wire. With a balcony, i clamp a Buddistick to the rail angling it out 45 degrees and lead a counterpoise back into the room. Always tie a safety line to the antenna in case the clamp fails! Get the highest floor you can with the clearest view out (I have been able sometimes to get another room if it is a poor radio location). If there is no balcony but the window opens, clamp it to the window rail or a chair. If there are no opening windows, set it up in front of the window on a little tripod though this does not work nearly as well. You might also look at an MP-1 for this purpose. Have fun! Eric WD6DBM Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100 with many options
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:58:07 -0400, NZ8J n...@woh.rr.com wrote: Just my opinion, but you won't be able to buy a new kit with those options for the price you're asking. I'd keep it, even if just for a backup. The S/N doesn't mean anything as to whether it's up to date. You can probably bring it up to date with a few mods and firmware uploads. Tom, N5GE K3 #806 with SUB RX, PR6, KRC2 and K144XV K3 #1055 with PR6 and XV432 W1, 2 W2's and other small kits QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I have a K3/100 (serial no. 2255) with many options I would like to sell. It has the following options built in: Second RX Antenna tuner Voice recorder TCXO IF out module (KXV3) 1.8 kHz filter 500 hz filter 250 hz filter 200 hz filter MH-2 hand mic All manuals and power cord Not interested in trades, only selling to buy a new kit version K3/100 to build. I did some trading for this and seeing all the new products on the horizon I decided to start new and build up a complete Elecraft station, eventually the P3 and 500 watt amp as well. It looks excellent and works perfect. Always in a non smoking environment. Will ship and insure it in the US for $2895. US postal money order preferred. Please reply direct to n...@woh.rr.com for more information. I ca nsend pics if necessary. Thanks Tim NZ8J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:13:40 -0700 (PDT), K3PIN k3...@verizon.net wrote: Upgrading firmware cannot disable your audio to the speakers. I suspect the other posters are correct in their diagnosis of the speaker malfunction. I'm curious. What did Elecraft tell you when you called them? If you called them or emailed them today, they may not be there, since it's fathers day weekend. Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
The K3 automatically sets the correct carrier output level for AM -- approx. 1/4 the set carrier power. Fiddling is really not required. The proper way to use the radio into an amp, for example, is put the radio in tune, adjust the K3 output tand tune the amp to the desired PEP output level. (And heavily load the amp, the the way). When you key up in AM, the K3 drops the carrier to 1/4 the set power, which is the correct level. The power rating on AM is by definition 100W PEP -- the same as SSB. Grant/NQ5T On Jun 19, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Interesting, Jim. I did a search of the PDF Owner's Manual and came up with zilch regarding AM transmit power suggestions or adjustments. That must be an oversight. Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net Recently I was able to do a QSO on AM for the first time using my K3. Yes, I have the 6 Khz filter installed. As I was setting power I found I could dial in about 100 watts the same as SSB. Realizing that would over work the PA I brought it back to 25 watts and had a very nice QSO with a good audio report. Afterward, I checked the specs and instructions in the Owner's Manual and could find nothing about AM power rating. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft Shirts by Sew Divine
Recently, I ordered a shirt from Sew Divine, the company that does Elecraft's logo shirts. Its website link is located at the bottom of Elecraft's Home Page. When the shirt arrived, it had the odor of bleach and I decided to wash it. When it came out of the wash, my wife noticed something I hadn't (she notices everything): a small hole on the back of the shirt. I contacted Ellen Melland at Sew Divine by e-mail, explaining our thought that the hole was probably there from the outset. (I know, in fact, that I really didn't examine the back of the shirt before it went into the wash.) Anyway, Ms. Melland responded, telling me to keep the shirt and, maybe, patch it, and that she would be making and sending me a new one very shortly. I'm posting this just to let folks know that the support from Sew Divine is excellent and much appreciated, and Elecraft has made a good choice for its provider of logo merchandise. Good service deserves to be recognized! 73, Jeff, K6JW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:06:57 -0500, Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com wrote: Thanks Grant! I wonder why they don't say something about that in the manual?... Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net The K3 automatically sets the correct carrier output level for AM -- approx. 1/4 the set carrier power. Fiddling is really not required. The proper way to use the radio into an amp, for example, is put the radio in tune, adjust the K3 output tand tune the amp to the desired PEP output level. (And heavily load the amp, the the way). When you key up in AM, the K3 drops the carrier to 1/4 the set power, which is the correct level. The power rating on AM is by definition 100W PEP -- the same as SSB. Grant/NQ5T On Jun 19, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Interesting, Jim. I did a search of the PDF Owner's Manual and came up with zilch regarding AM transmit power suggestions or adjustments. That must be an oversight. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 portable antenna
Hello all, Back some years, I traveled a lot for the company and had the opportunity to take, pardon the vintage gear, an SBE-33 and a home built tuner, some fishing leader line, coil of #16 AWG wire, Plus a large coil of #30 enamel wire. Like mentioned before, getting to the top floor was the challenge. Most times, I would be able to snake out the wire onto plastic helpers, and get the wire out some distance. On 75 m, something around 60 ft, seemed to be right for the tuner to get a decent SWR. I used the #16 AWG to tie onto any copper ground I could find. Some times it was the steam radiator, other times the, pardon the reference, phone line, hi. In any case, it allowed me to keep comm with a lot of the local hams and made traveling for business more of a pleasure in the off hours. Keep up the effort on comm where possible. Mel. K6KBE --- On Sat, 6/19/10, Eric gliderboy1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Eric gliderboy1...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 portable antenna To: w7...@cox.net w7...@cox.net Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 2:43 PM Arnie, et al: I have not had much luck with wire antennas from a hotel room--usually there's no way to string the wire. With a balcony, i clamp a Buddistick to the rail angling it out 45 degrees and lead a counterpoise back into the room. Always tie a safety line to the antenna in case the clamp fails! Get the highest floor you can with the clearest view out (I have been able sometimes to get another room if it is a poor radio location). If there is no balcony but the window opens, clamp it to the window rail or a chair. If there are no opening windows, set it up in front of the window on a little tripod though this does not work nearly as well. You might also look at an MP-1 for this purpose. Have fun! Eric WD6DBM Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] No Audio from speakers after FW 3.97 upgrade K3
Just last week someone mentioned a problem with lack of speaker output after a DSP upgrade. That was traced to not properly seating the front panel (front panel board thought headphones were connected all the time). Try Speaker + Phones to see if you get speaker audio to confirm that diagnosis and/or remove and reseat the front panel assembly. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/19/2010 5:55 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:13:40 -0700 (PDT), K3PINk3...@verizon.net wrote: Upgrading firmware cannot disable your audio to the speakers. I suspect the other posters are correct in their diagnosis of the speaker malfunction. I'm curious. What did Elecraft tell you when you called them? If you called them or emailed them today, they may not be there, since it's fathers day weekend. Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I just upgraded the firmware in my k3(#2453) and now there's no audio from the internal speaker or the external speaker I have. I can get sound from the phone outputs. I think the FW upgrade fried my audio somehow. needless to say I'm pissed off! I aslo had another RF/SQl knob crack on me! maybe it is time to trash the k3 and go with a Flex 5000! Anyone else have a simular audio problem or any suggestions besides emailing and calling Elecraft which I already did. Steve-K3PIN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, Weather has not quite gone back to normal. It is grey and rainy so that is OK but the temperature is low which is not. Highs should not be in the high 50s but somewhere in the 70 degree range. Flowers are blooming and trees are adding new growth. Hummingbirds have slowed their feeding so there must be some other food source. I do have a few new birds to look up when I find a spare moment. But this time of year, along with the cool weather, are best for collecting wood. Since I am still heating this will be a long year. My goal is fifteen cords maybe more. If I don't use it the overage can just sit drying for the following year. Propagation was fairly good this week on both 20 and 40 meters. The sun had one blank day but currently another spot is growing while prominences are popping out behind. Sporadic Es have opened 6 meters as well as 2 meters. Now to find some time to repair the feedline to the rig sitting right next to me. Having two operating positions makes life interesting. This one is mostly used for VHF contacts but can be used down to 160 meters as long as the antenna is not broken. Winter storms broke the feedline right at the feed point. A dry day is best for soldering on the roof but those days are spent cutting wood. I know, strange priorities :) I place staying warm over getting on the air. But moving wood is good for my fitness. Sitting in a chair is not so good at that. Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help) Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz Monday z (Sunday 5 PM PDT) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
G'day, It seems the fundamentals are no longer part of the examinations. Regards, Mike VP8NO - Original Message - From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com To: Elecraft Email elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (no subject) On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Interesting, Jim. I did a search of the PDF Owner's Manual and came up with zilch regarding AM transmit power suggestions or adjustments. That must be an oversight. Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net Recently I was able to do a QSO on AM for the first time using my K3. Yes, I have the 6 Khz filter installed. As I was setting power I found I could dial in about 100 watts the same as SSB. Realizing that would over work the PA I brought it back to 25 watts and had a very nice QSO with a good audio report. Afterward, I checked the specs and instructions in the Owner's Manual and could find nothing about AM power rating. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Did I do right
Good browsers to use include: Firefox Safari (Apple's browser) Chrome (from Google) You will find that Chrome and Safari are far faster in page rendering then Firefox. I prefer both Safari (first) and then Chrome over Firefox. All three browsers are available on Windows and Apple Mac computers. 73 phil K7PEH On Jun 19, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Ken Roberson wrote: Hello, I have been using Firefox for two years and Like it. 73 Ken K5DNL --- --- On Sat, 6/19/10, ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] Did I do right To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 3:47 PM I know this is off topic, but this seems to be the only place where people know what they are talking about. I tried IE8hate it.couldnt get rid of itso I downloaded firefox. Did I do right using firefox instead of trying to find ie7 Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: From: drewko drew...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:16 AM Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM)
Well, the Elecraft is getting the signal from both your bug's dit and your dah contact on the same lead. And if your closures are perfect, by what process is the K3 able to determine that the contact is from only one side of a bug to give just that one side a tick? And when the tick can be cured as was posted by changing hand technique? The closure waveform is clearly not the same for dit and dah. If you were sending code on an old 807 rig, one of the old time locals would be on your case for scratchy keying, and tell you which contact on your bug it was. Your denials of bug contact complicity at the club meeting would just get you looks. What I find interesting out of this is that there is enough interest in using bugs, that a debouncer option for mechanical keys is a reasonable request. Getting bug contacts correct for using on low voltage circuits IS and HAS BEEN a real PITA, never needing to be broached by the old-timers that designed the bugs. The CW+ was introduced particularly to serve high speed CW interests that were not being addressed, with dits at some speeds pretty close to a click. Not that someone else shouldn't use it. The current settings are wonderful for the very high speed stuff and I do hope that Wayne will not degrade it to debounce mechanical bugs being operated at speeds serviced well at the regular CW. Just improve the QSK at the regular CW setting, although I know he is fighting state change processing budgets. 73, Guy On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going fast.. Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm on my bugs, and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I would recommend that someone actually look into keying with more than just the paddles or keyboards. Perhaps you have misunderstood that people are not trying to complain here Guy, yet let the Elecraft guys know that they should look into this. That's why it's still BETA software at this point... Don't poo poo it so fast. Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:09:31 -0400 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) From: olin...@bellsouth.net To: notforc...@hotmail.com CC: drew...@verizon.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net For speeds that people can send with a bug (usually) the regular CW seems to work quite fine. CW plus is primarily intended to support very fast speeds, often heard now with operators sending with keyboards and other electronic keying devices. Debouncing a bug to prevent false starts when someone has poor contacts on one side is not one of the design goals for CW plus I've heard passed about, though the buffering of keying circuits used in most transmitters now has a small amount of debouncing effect which has likely been hiding the glitch. This would include the regular CW of the K3. With CW plus, however, that small false start has to be taken as legitimate, because pausing a small amount to make sure that the operator really means it, would make high speed CW sound jerky. CW plus was made to faithfully reproduce the keying at very high speeds, and has to take the blip seriously. Cleaning and proper adjustment of bug contacts were always needed in the day, because the condition you are talking about would result in scratchy keying...which was never blamed on the transmitter, only on the op who was not keeping his bug greased. The need is greater now because noone is keying the +100V or more found on the old open cathode circuits any more, and bad bug contacts will easier bother a mere 12 volts on the key, and bother 5 volts even worse. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:11 AM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I've noticed this as well. For me it's a Tick sound EVERY time I hit the Dah side of my bug. Nothing on the dit side, regardless of the speed or preasure. I thought at first it was the force that I was using.. So I tried pushing the lever slowly and carefully against the Dah contact, and it didn't make the sound.. So then I tried lighting my touch on the dah side while I was sending, and sure enough it was still there. So, I switched from my Begali Intrepid to my Vibroplex Original, and then I found that the ticking sound was GONE all together! Now I'm competely confused. What does the one dah side have that the other bug's doesn't??? Gold Contacts? A bad ground connection? More surface contact
Re: [Elecraft] Did I do right
Good reflectors to use: Firefox home page Apple Support page Google Chrome Support page Not the Elecraft reflector. From: phys...@mac.com Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:58:03 -0700 To: kwrober...@yahoo.com CC: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Did I do right Good browsers to use include: Firefox Safari (Apple's browser) Chrome (from Google) You will find that Chrome and Safari are far faster in page rendering then Firefox. I prefer both Safari (first) and then Chrome over Firefox. All three browsers are available on Windows and Apple Mac computers. 73 phil K7PEH On Jun 19, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Ken Roberson wrote: Hello, I have been using Firefox for two years and Like it. 73 Ken K5DNL --- --- On Sat, 6/19/10, ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] Did I do right To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 3:47 PM I know this is off topic, but this seems to be the only place where people know what they are talking about. I tried IE8hate it.couldnt get rid of itso I downloaded firefox. Did I do right using firefox instead of trying to find ie7 Susan If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm AFA9SM USSV DHARMA --- On Sat, 6/19/10, drewko drew...@verizon.net wrote: From: drewko drew...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode (Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) To: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, June 19, 2010, 10:16 AM Hi Cookie, I have seen that video and it is well beyond the degree of motion that I use on the bug. In fact, I have a Viz right-angle bug which is a lighter key and requires a lighter touch than the typical Vibroplex. And I use it without benefit of any epoxy, superglue, and/or anchor bolts holding it down to the desk as a lot of bug users seem to do. If I was really slamming it like in the video it would walk off the desk in short order, haha! Even so, that slight initial tap on the leading dahs is enough to make my K3 go TICK! 73, Drew AF2Z On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Drew, you have been watching the lady operator with the long finger nails on the Night-of-Nights Utube video too much. You don't need all that hand waving and finger motion to send with a bug! Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode
I just dusted off my Vibroplex Champion and tried testing with the K3. The reports of intermittent audible side-tone click are correct in CW+ mode, although the click can be heard on either dits or dahs, depending on the degree of contact bounce. I was able to easily replicate the side-tone clicks by moving around both bug contacts. I am using K3 F/W 4.03. First, I tested the bug by plugging it directly into the K3's rear panel KEY input to confirm the issue. Next, I plugged the bug into my external keyer with a modified Schottky gate/2N7000 combination. Then, the output of the keyer was plugged into the K3's KEY jack. The Schottky buffer functions as a contact de-bouncer and ensures that each contact results in the 2N7000 FET going to ground and no state in between ground and +Vcc provided by the K3's key input line. The input buffer cleans the bug contacts, resulting in no audible side-tone click. As an alternate to the Schottky buffer, some bug users may want to try placing a tantalum or electrolytic cap (e.g., 0.1uF - 0.47uF) across the bug output terminals, observing correct polarity. Tests awhile back showed this helped with contact bounce, but not the pseudo-diode condition created by contacts of dissimilar metals as earlier discussed by Joe, W4TV. I sure wouldn't want Elecraft to in any way compromise CW+ as it presently functions. As Guy points out, it may be a byproduct of the new ultra-fast QSK and as such, other methods of contact de-bouncing can be used when using a bug or straight key. If an external keyer is used with the K3, the first thing I would try is to plug the bug into the keyer and set it for bug mode and use its internal contact buffering capabilities to ensure that the K3 sees a clean On/Off state for every contact closure. Some keyers utilize a second input just for straight keys and bugs and don't require the operator to change the keying mode through the keyer's menu. Anyway, these methods may be worth a try, starting with a cap or an external keyer. If the problem persists, it may require a more robust de-bouncer like the Shottky gate type I'm using. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net To: The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Well, the Elecraft is getting the signal from both your bug's dit and your dah contact on the same lead. And if your closures are perfect, by what process is the K3 able to determine that the contact is from only one side of a bug to give just that one side a tick? And when the tick can be cured as was posted by changing hand technique? The closure waveform is clearly not the same for dit and dah. If you were sending code on an old 807 rig, one of the old time locals would be on your case for scratchy keying, and tell you which contact on your bug it was. Your denials of bug contact complicity at the club meeting would just get you looks. What I find interesting out of this is that there is enough interest in using bugs, that a debouncer option for mechanical keys is a reasonable request. Getting bug contacts correct for using on low voltage circuits IS and HAS BEEN a real PITA, never needing to be broached by the old-timers that designed the bugs. The CW+ was introduced particularly to serve high speed CW interests that were not being addressed, with dits at some speeds pretty close to a click. Not that someone else shouldn't use it. The current settings are wonderful for the very high speed stuff and I do hope that Wayne will not degrade it to debounce mechanical bugs being operated at speeds serviced well at the regular CW. Just improve the QSK at the regular CW setting, although I know he is fighting state change processing budgets. 73, Guy On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going fast.. Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm on my bugs, and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I would recommend that someone actually look into keying with more than just the paddles or keyboards. Perhaps you have misunderstood that people are not trying to complain here Guy, yet let the Elecraft guys know that they should look into this. That's why it's still BETA software at this point... Don't poo poo it
[Elecraft] I need a photograph of KX1 main circuit board
I have been doing some circuit mods to my KX1 and need a photograph of both sides of the main circuit board BEFORE the parts are mounted. I would appreciate it if someone would e mail me pictures or refer me to a link. Usually I document my work before I cut circuit traces, etc, but not this time. Thanks for your help and I promise to share any useful mods with the Elecraft KX1 community. Rick KL7CW kl...@mtaonline.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode
I had to put a .5uf capacitor across my bug to prevent contact bounce on the K3That was over 2 years ago. Radio Shack sells a 1uf tantalum capacitor and I put 2 in series. They just screw under the bug's connector. Sure cleaned things up! Steve N4LQ - Original Message - From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:45 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode I just dusted off my Vibroplex Champion and tried testing with the K3. The reports of intermittent audible side-tone click are correct in CW+ mode, although the click can be heard on either dits or dahs, depending on the degree of contact bounce. I was able to easily replicate the side-tone clicks by moving around both bug contacts. I am using K3 F/W 4.03. First, I tested the bug by plugging it directly into the K3's rear panel KEY input to confirm the issue. Next, I plugged the bug into my external keyer with a modified Schottky gate/2N7000 combination. Then, the output of the keyer was plugged into the K3's KEY jack. The Schottky buffer functions as a contact de-bouncer and ensures that each contact results in the 2N7000 FET going to ground and no state in between ground and +Vcc provided by the K3's key input line. The input buffer cleans the bug contacts, resulting in no audible side-tone click. As an alternate to the Schottky buffer, some bug users may want to try placing a tantalum or electrolytic cap (e.g., 0.1uF - 0.47uF) across the bug output terminals, observing correct polarity. Tests awhile back showed this helped with contact bounce, but not the pseudo-diode condition created by contacts of dissimilar metals as earlier discussed by Joe, W4TV. I sure wouldn't want Elecraft to in any way compromise CW+ as it presently functions. As Guy points out, it may be a byproduct of the new ultra-fast QSK and as such, other methods of contact de-bouncing can be used when using a bug or straight key. If an external keyer is used with the K3, the first thing I would try is to plug the bug into the keyer and set it for bug mode and use its internal contact buffering capabilities to ensure that the K3 sees a clean On/Off state for every contact closure. Some keyers utilize a second input just for straight keys and bugs and don't require the operator to change the keying mode through the keyer's menu. Anyway, these methods may be worth a try, starting with a cap or an external keyer. If the problem persists, it may require a more robust de-bouncer like the Shottky gate type I'm using. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net To: The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 4.03: CW+ mode(Ultra-fastbreak-in; VOX-CW up to 100 WPM) Well, the Elecraft is getting the signal from both your bug's dit and your dah contact on the same lead. And if your closures are perfect, by what process is the K3 able to determine that the contact is from only one side of a bug to give just that one side a tick? And when the tick can be cured as was posted by changing hand technique? The closure waveform is clearly not the same for dit and dah. If you were sending code on an old 807 rig, one of the old time locals would be on your case for scratchy keying, and tell you which contact on your bug it was. Your denials of bug contact complicity at the club meeting would just get you looks. What I find interesting out of this is that there is enough interest in using bugs, that a debouncer option for mechanical keys is a reasonable request. Getting bug contacts correct for using on low voltage circuits IS and HAS BEEN a real PITA, never needing to be broached by the old-timers that designed the bugs. The CW+ was introduced particularly to serve high speed CW interests that were not being addressed, with dits at some speeds pretty close to a click. Not that someone else shouldn't use it. The current settings are wonderful for the very high speed stuff and I do hope that Wayne will not degrade it to debounce mechanical bugs being operated at speeds serviced well at the regular CW. Just improve the QSK at the regular CW setting, although I know he is fighting state change processing budgets. 73, Guy On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:27 PM, The Smiths notforc...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Guy, but I'm not hearing bounce on my key. And I can assure you that my bug doesn't have poor contacts on either side. I get ONE single Dah when sending a Dah.. What I hear is a TICK sound, and not a tone when I first key down. If speed and bounce were the issue than I would be sure to hear it on the dit side regardless of the speed... This problem is something else. Furthermore I don't see why QRQ type QSK mode is ONLY for people going
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
Supposedly this would be license exam reference material, that AM signals can vary instantaneously from nothing at full negative modulation, to four times the carrier power at full positive modulation. Therefore AM PEP is four times carrier power at full modulation. QRO limit today would be 1500/4 or 375 watts carrier output. My 3-1000Z needs 55 watts input PEP for 1500 PEP out. 55/4 is 13.75 watts carrier to drive my Z box to today's legal limit AM signal. The AM PEP value will always be the limiting factor in a string of linear amplifiers, just as in SSB. This stuff in the USA question pools? If it isn't required for a license, maybe it ought to be in the manual. In pre-1.5kw days the carrier INPUT power allowed was 1000 watts, usually class C with plate modulation therefore putting out 750 watts of carrier PLUS full modulation which meant those old Johnson desk kilowatt rigs were putting out 750 watts carrier and 3KW PEP at high modulation. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:06:57 -0500, Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com wrote: Thanks Grant! I wonder why they don't say something about that in the manual?... Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net The K3 automatically sets the correct carrier output level for AM -- approx. 1/4 the set carrier power. Fiddling is really not required. The proper way to use the radio into an amp, for example, is put the radio in tune, adjust the K3 output tand tune the amp to the desired PEP output level. (And heavily load the amp, the the way). When you key up in AM, the K3 drops the carrier to 1/4 the set power, which is the correct level. The power rating on AM is by definition 100W PEP -- the same as SSB. Grant/NQ5T On Jun 19, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:32 +, Jim Harris w...@q.com wrote: Interesting, Jim. I did a search of the PDF Owner's Manual and came up with zilch regarding AM transmit power suggestions or adjustments. That must be an oversight. [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] I need a photograph of KX1 main circuit board
Rick, Tom Hammond N0SS has generously provided top and bottom images of most all the Elecraft K1, K2, KX1 and related option boards. You can find what you are seeking at www.n0ss.net. In case you cannot find them, email me direct and I will send you the images (I have Tom's images stored on my computer). 73, Don W3FPR Rick and Carolyn Dwight wrote: I have been doing some circuit mods to my KX1 and need a photograph of both sides of the main circuit board BEFORE the parts are mounted. I would appreciate it if someone would e mail me pictures or refer me to a link. Usually I document my work before I cut circuit traces, etc, but not this time. Thanks for your help and I promise to share any useful mods with the Elecraft KX1 community. Rick KL7CW kl...@mtaonline.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode
I think that is not being communicated here is, I'm NOT hearing intermittent audible side-tone clicks I'm here TICKS... I am hearing the same tick on the leading edge of the side-tone only when using a bug in CW+ mode. It disappears when CW+ is deactivated. So, whatever we want to call it, an artifact is there, but I think it's manageable external to the bug and K3. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode
I've often had trouble keying modern solid-state rigs cleanly with mechanical bugs. I've tried various electronic debouncing schemes, with more or less success. The simplest solution is to use a reed relay -- radio shack has a 12-volt one that works perfectly with a 9-volt battery. The battery lasts for months. Put an electrolytic capacitor across the coil to soak up the bounce pulses. I used 10 uf, I think. Without the capacitor the reed relay is fast enough to reproduce the bounces. You'll have to readjust your bug, since the circuit will lengthen the dits. Problem solved. On 6/19/2010 6:45 PM, Paul Christensen wrote: I just dusted off my Vibroplex Champion and tried testing with the K3. The reports of intermittent audible side-tone click are correct in CW+ mode, although the click can be heard on either dits or dahs, depending on the degree of contact bounce. I was able to easily replicate the side-tone clicks by moving around both bug contacts. I am using K3 F/W 4.03. First, I tested the bug by plugging it directly into the K3's rear panel KEY input to confirm the issue. Next, I plugged the bug into my external keyer with a modified Schottky gate/2N7000 combination. Then, the output of the keyer was plugged into the K3's KEY jack. The Schottky buffer functions as a contact de-bouncer and ensures that each contact results in the 2N7000 FET going to ground and no state in between ground and +Vcc provided by the K3's key input line. The input buffer cleans the bug contacts, resulting in no audible side-tone click. As an alternate to the Schottky buffer, some bug users may want to try placing a tantalum or electrolytic cap (e.g., 0.1uF - 0.47uF) across the bug output terminals, observing correct polarity. Tests awhile back showed this helped with contact bounce, but not the pseudo-diode condition created by contacts of dissimilar metals as earlier discussed by Joe, W4TV. I sure wouldn't want Elecraft to in any way compromise CW+ as it presently functions. As Guy points out, it may be a byproduct of the new ultra-fast QSK and as such, other methods of contact de-bouncing can be used when using a bug or straight key. If an external keyer is used with the K3, the first thing I would try is to plug the bug into the keyer and set it for bug mode and use its internal contact buffering capabilities to ensure that the K3 sees a clean On/Off state for every contact closure. Some keyers utilize a second input just for straight keys and bugs and don't require the operator to change the keying mode through the keyer's menu. Anyway, these methods may be worth a try, starting with a cap or an external keyer. If the problem persists, it may require a more robust de-bouncer like the Shottky gate type I'm using. Paul, W9AC -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Thanks for KX1 circuit board photo
Thank you Don for the link to the KX1 circuit board photo. I just downloaded it ! Rick KX1 # 798 KL7CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] CW+ mode
Someone said: Personally I send as slow as 18wpm and as high as 35 wpm . . ., and enjoy the fast switching of the new CW+ mode. In my opinion THIS is what QSK SHOULD sound like.. I agree. I prefer CW+ to CW for use at 18-25 wpm with a paddle. CW+ is close to perfect QSK; I believe I can hear the breaker more easily while I'm transmitting and there may be less audio thumping too. I'm eagerly awaiting SPLIT with CW+ so I can always use it . [I use the SUB rcvr to hunt for the last guy worked by the DX so I find SPLIT mode handy. ] eric VA7DZ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Bug Contact Bounce in CW+ Mode
Paul and all, We are discussing mechanical contacts that are dry. Contact bounce is a fact of life and is a problem to be contended with in any dry mechanical switch (bug, straight key, mechanical switch, relay, etc.) It can be minimized with sealed mercury-wetted contacts, but without considering the mercuy wetted solution, is a very real problem. When designing a console for a large computer system, I added de-bouncing latches for every switch on the console panel because I knew that even high quality switches had contact bounce. Fortunately, I was able to specify the switches to be SPDT so I could use set/reset latches for the de-bouncing mechanism. Dirty contacts, dissimilar metals and other things of that nature only amplify the problem. *All* switch contact closures will bounce - the question becomes how long will the bounce condition be present. There are effective de-bouncing circuits that can be used (set/reset latches if the switch is a SPDT), but the most common de-bouncing mechanism for SPST contacts is to sample the switch closure over a period of time (milliseconds), and if the closure exists during and after that time period, it is declared as a valid contact closure. In the case of CW+, the timing must be smaller than the duration of the fastest allowable element (a dit time at 100 WPM - which may be just a tick)., so yes, some contact bounce timings may be interpreted as valid dits (even though they may be shortened to just a click or a tick). IMHO, the CW+ option should not be used with bugs and straight keys because they suffer from potential contact bounce. With logic controlled (and already de-bounced) circuits such as keyboard CW and other forms of computer generated CW, there should be no problem. 73, Don W3FPR Paul Christensen wrote: I think that is not being communicated here is, I'm NOT hearing intermittent audible side-tone clicks I'm here TICKS... I am hearing the same tick on the leading edge of the side-tone only when using a bug in CW+ mode. It disappears when CW+ is deactivated. So, whatever we want to call it, an artifact is there, but I think it's manageable external to the bug and K3. Paul, W9AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Antenna for a KX1
Arnie : I have found that a 28 ft sorta-vertical wire to be a bit less picky w.r.t. positioning than the 24 foot wire. It will match equally well on 20m and 30m but is somewhat easier to match on 40m than a 24 footer. The 24 foot wire will match fine with the KXAT1 on all three bands as long is it is quite vertical. BTW what you want is the POMONA BNC to binding post / banana adaptor. Note that the POMONA adaptor allows two banana plugs to be connected to each terminal. The RED terminal goes to the center conductor on the BNC and the Black the BNC shield on the rig. I also highly recommend the Radio Shack solderless Banana plugs. The wire is secured by a screw-on metal shell ... and my recommendation is that once you install it put a dab of LOCTITE or clear nail polish or it will eventually come unscrewed and you will lose the shell part in the grass ! It put these on the ends of all of my portable wire antennas. For a ground plane I use a 20 foot length of 5 conductor computer ribbon cable with all 5 wires connected to a R/S solderless banana plug. About 4 feet from the plug I put a piece of electrical tape then I go to the opposite end of the ribbon cable and unzip all of the wires up to the point of the tape. This provides a clean way routing the ground plane wires away from the rig and then the wires splay out on the ground. I find that this is pretty quick to deploy and works pretty well from most locations that I operate. If I feel I need more radials I have a second set of 5, identical to the first so I can deploy 10 which is about the limit of my patience in deploying radials. ;-) I did a lot of experimentation trying to come up with a shortened wire antenna that could be supported by a 20 ft Crappie pole such as the Black Widow or Shakespeare Wonderpole that would work on 40m through 20m with the internal tuner in the KX1 . What I finally settled on and have been using for portable operation with my KX1 for some time is a 20 ft linear-loaded wire made from R/S indoor twinlead. Details as follows : Vertical radiator is a 20 foot piece of twinlead with the top shorted (ie both wires connected together at the top end and soldered). I just tape the twinlead to the fiberglass pole. The two bottom wires on the twin lead each have their own R/S solderless banana plug installed. On 20m and 30m both bottom wires on the twinlead are connected to the center conductor of BNC on the rig via the RED terminal on the POMONA adaptor, making the antenna just a fat 20 foot wire. On 40m only one of the two bottom wires on the twin-lead is connected to the center conductor of the BNC on the rig via the RED terminal on the POMONA adaptor (the other wire is left floating) this effectively creates a 40 foot vertical wire folded back on itself at the 20 foot mark. On 40m the folded wire creates a linear loading effect due to the capacitive coupling between the two wires (note that currents are not equal and opposite so there is no cancellation of signal as you might initially think). This added capacitance allows the wire to be resonated on 40m by the internal tuner in the K1, KX1 or also by the Elecraft T1. In both cases my ground radial system is connected to the BNC shield via the BLACK terminal on the POMONA adapter. Note that 20 feet is not that far off of the normal 33 feet required for a 1/4 wave so the performance is not bad on 40m. This is a very simple antenna that works well on 40m through 20m. I have made hundreds of QSOs on 40m/30m and 20m operating portable with this setup. Best of luck with your new KX1. Michael VE3WMB P.S. I also discovered that a 14 foot piece of twinlead in the linear-loaded configuration will load fine on 40m when supported on a 13 Ft fiberglass pole and I use this with a 29 foot trailing wire for pedestrian mobile operation with my KX1. Note that when the twinlead wires are shorted at the bottom to make a fat 14 foot wire this will load fine on both 30m and 20m. Actually the minimum length of wire that will match on these two bands is about 12 feet. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Contest CW speed and a ham since 1952
Susan... great to see your post on the Elecraft reflector. We have worked each other over the years, the last time with you in Honolulu on 12 June 2010. A few years ago we chatted when you were moored in Hilo. Do you have a website so we can keep track of your comings and goings? Does the K3 perform well at sea? Joe KH6/W3GW and Maria Wailuku, Maui in response to Message: 21 Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: ussv dharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com Subject: [Elecraft] Contest cw speed and a ham since 1952 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 483515.56010...@web65707.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Peoples: I operate from quite a few dx spotsI have been on the air steady since 1952,,,call me old fashioned,call me crotchedy...BUTI never , ever answer or qso with a high speed cw station that does not slow down to my speed. Yes I do 35wpm, but I prever 20.sorry, had to vent my spleen somewhere. My, My, there are a lot of lids on the air todaybut then most of them do not know what lid refers to. Susan (Old lady of 76 years) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] 6 Meters
Hi All, I seem to be digging myself a bigger and bigger hole called 6 meters! First I just decided to see what could be heard on that band. Not much--at least at first. But then I got a dose of sporadic E, and things started getting a bit more interesting. Then one of my friends talked me into building a moxon antenna. That was fun, and pretty easy. The antenna seems to do a pretty good job. So, I said to myself, if a simple moxon works that well, a 4 element beam ought to be almost as easy to build, and work even better! That was all over the last 12 to 18 months. Then came the June VHF contest (last week), and some very good sporadic E--better than last year! Actually, there were a couple of sprints in between, which weren't all that productive, but right now 6 meters is humming pretty good! My K3 does very well, and I even use my R7 vertical much of the time (omni-directional) with surprisingly good results. I read some of the archives about 6 meter activity with the K3, and noticed a lot of commentary about the K3 being perhaps a bit light on 6 meter receive. Well, a PR6 pre-amp might take care of that! It does! I just added that little accessory, and the results are impressive. Not something you need for every QSO, but now I'm hearing stuff I couldn't even detect previously. Lots of additional oomph without raising the noise level very much at all. Very nifty product. Point is, I'm getting a little too intrigued with this for my own good! Is there a 12 step program out there for this? Fortunately (?) I'm deed restricted, so there won't be any towers and stacked arrays going up! Hi. There's even some pretty active CW operation at times--I like that! Bottom line--if you haven't put your toe in the water on 6 yet, do it! You probably have an antenna that will work fine, and don't realize it. If you have a K3, and like what you hear initially, get a PR6 pre-amp. Problem is that the sporadic E only lasts for a while, then goes away for several months. But there's a lot more going on with 6 meters, even during the down times, than I realized. If you have a radio that will do 6 meters, the rest is pretty easy. Dave W7AQK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
