Re: [Elecraft] WSPR

2011-05-31 Thread David Pratt
Very true, Ron, but the problem these days is that many of today's
brains seem incapable of decoding CW ;-(

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz writes

It's even more amazing how far 0.5 watts can be heard and information
exchanged using human brains as the encoder/decoder software.
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Re: [Elecraft] Thermal Stress in K2, K3 and I guess KX3

2011-05-31 Thread Fred Townsend
I haven't seen any of the problems you suggest nor would I expect them. The
circuits are digitally controlled with feedback and temperature monitoring.
This is not your grandfather's open loop analog rig.

de Fred, AE6QL

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Subject: [Elecraft] Thermal Stress in K2, K3 and I guess KX3

All,

Has anyone seen any degradation or temporary non-operation in the QRP
versions of the K2 or K3 while operating in hot conditions?  Symptoms might
include:

- gradual loss in output power
- gradual increase in output power
- controls stop working due to some processor lockup
- unexpected receiver bandwidth changes
- frequency drift (although what doesn't drift a little)
- any other change that returns to normal upon return to normal temps

This question works the other way too.  Has anyone seen the above during
very cold operation?

As for the KX3, has the thermal analysis highlighted any stress point(s)?

Thanks.

John, kx4o
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Sales

2011-05-31 Thread Klaus Koppendorfer
Is there any problem with elecraft sales - my several mails due the last days 
are unanswered

73
Klaus
OE6KYG
KX1 244
K2 1331
K3 115

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Sales

2011-05-31 Thread Charles Buse
If by last days you mean:

Saturday, Sunday = weekend
Monday = holiday

then I would not expect an answer either.

73
Charles
HB9EGW

On 31 May 2011 10:18, Klaus Koppendorfer wrote:
 Is there any problem with elecraft sales - my several mails due the last days 
 are unanswered

 73
 Klaus
 OE6KYG
 KX1 244
 K2 1331
 K3 115

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[Elecraft] Is my K2 off-pitch?

2011-05-31 Thread Christopher Kimball


I'd like to set my K2 (S/N 4913) to have a sidetone pitch of tenor C on 
the musical scale. This is corresponds to a frequency of 523.251 Hz.  Of 
course the K2 sidetone is settable only in 10 Hz steps, so an exact 
match isn't possible.  Oddly, the closest I can get to tenor C is at 510 
Hz, not 530 or 520 Hz. 

I'm trying to align the filters with an XG2 RF generator and a pitch 
pipe, using Tom Hammond's, N0SS, procedure.  If this is unreasonable, 
please advise.

Chris Kimball
WB4WZR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread juergen
Hi Kristin

Some of those 3rd party side lids with handles, like those available for the K2 
might provide the needed protection. Maybe Elecraft will offer 19 inch rack 
style handles or bumper side lids for the KX3. Might make it look a bit hitech 
and mil-spec.

A small canopy hood  that offers some shade  from sunlight might be another way 
of protecting the panel.

A small  IP rated sealed hinge lid  might be another option. I use them on my 
sailboat and they are readily available from boat shops. They are stereo radio 
DIN size. Other sizes are also available.

When all the accessories are planned for the KX3 it would be nice if all of 
them fitted into the standard Mil impact rack  cases. I am sure the EMCOMM guys 
will love that as a option. It would also make it convenient to store all the 
KX3 accessories. They a much better option than the standard Pelican case. 

A smaller thinner VFO knob like those found on the HP spectrum analyzers and 
some medical equipment might be another alternative. It would have been great 
if  the KX3's VFO knob could be somehow locked back into the panel on some sort 
of spring lock cam arrangement. Anyway all expensive engineering that most 
would not want to pay for! Besides its too late now, the prototype has been 
already cast!

What I also would like to see is the ability maybe to use the H-250U mil 
manpack handset.  Some sort of patch cable  that allows connection to the Mil 
U-229 connector would be neat. That would be easy to homebrew.

I am imagining already that I   own the KX3! Although I would need 20 watts of 
output power  to make me get rid of my AEG SE6861 HF manpack

73
John

--- On Mon, 5/30/11, TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 4:19 PM
 Somewhat less protuding knobs, as
 well as a thinner dial knob would be more
 balanced with the rest of the unit, and would also be less
 vulnerable for
 transportation.
 
 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is my K2 off-pitch?

2011-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Chris,

Yes, that is unreasonable.  Using a single signal source to align the 
filters will only result in frustration.

Tom's procedure calls for a wideband noise source (the Elecraft N-Gen is 
one example).  If you do not have a noise generator, use the antenna 
noise on any hamband and set the preamp on to increase that noise.

Use Spectrogram (or other audio spectrum analyzer) to see the shape of 
the filter passband.

You may also want to review the filter alignment procedure in part 3 of 
my website article dealing with K2 Dial Calibration - www.w3fpr.com.

As far as the Tenor C is concerned, align the filter passband so it is 
centered close to that frequency, and afterward you can tune the signal 
to that note (except that the K2 tunes in 10 Hz steps)  Separately, set 
the sidetone pitch by ear to the setting which gives a pitch closest 
to that note.  Doing so will set the transmit offset frequency properly 
- the sidetone pitch is only indirectly related to the filter passband 
setting - the transmit offset is the only connecting link.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2011 6:46 AM, Christopher Kimball wrote:

 I'd like to set my K2 (S/N 4913) to have a sidetone pitch of tenor C on
 the musical scale. This is corresponds to a frequency of 523.251 Hz.  Of
 course the K2 sidetone is settable only in 10 Hz steps, so an exact
 match isn't possible.  Oddly, the closest I can get to tenor C is at 510
 Hz, not 530 or 520 Hz.

 I'm trying to align the filters with an XG2 RF generator and a pitch
 pipe, using Tom Hammond's, N0SS, procedure.  If this is unreasonable,
 please advise.

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[Elecraft] OT: Thanks to all given me tourist information of NYC

2011-05-31 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Group,
 
In Feb 2011, I asked an OT question in this reflector about tourist information 
of New York City (NYC).  I got a lot of responses.  As a collection of your 
wisdom, I visited the following places in NYC after I left Dayton:
 
Metropolitan Museum of Arts
Central Park
Museum of Modern Arts
Grand central station
New York Public Library
Empire state building
Rockefeller Observation deck
United Nations
Walls street
China Town
State of Liberty - a 2 hour cruise line tour along the coast line of Manhattan 
area
Times square - broadway - to watch Phantom of the Opera
World Trade Centre site
 
Time is really short and I have no time to visit University of Columbia and 
Museum of Natural History.
 
NYC is a really lively city with a well mix of old and modern buildings.  
Thanks to all your advice and I enjoyed my trip very much.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Dave-Boat Guy
With all this interesting talk about the KX3, about the only thing that I can 
think that this radio needs is a ruggedized housing.  It may be a nice portable 
radio or suited for EMCOMM but I hate to have one sitting on a table when it 
begins to rain or on a bicycle with sweat dripping in through the panels or 
keypad.  I for one, wouldn't mind paying extra for a ruggedized version.  Until 
I see something that is moisture resistant, I'll just read the mail and wait 
and enjoy my ICOM IC-7200.

Dave
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[Elecraft] Still lacking

2011-05-31 Thread Hall, Nathon
I'm so excited about the KX3! Finally, there's a successor to my beloved
IC-703.

AA1QG makes a very good point about SSB. The KX3 is clearly targeted
squarely at CW and PSK operators. I seldom have any problems being heard
with 10W when operating CW; even managing to break through DX pileups
with a little patience. On the other hand, SSB is difficult - even
discouraging - with 10W. 

I disagree with AA1QG's request for LiPo batteries in the KX3. LiPo
battery technology isn't very 'trail-friendly' in my experience. I can
always charge lead-acid and NiMh from my folding solar array when
camping, but LiPo charge regulators do not like the varying nature of
solar energy. The internal AA option is the right way to go with the
KX3.

There's an option that hasn't been discussed that would leverage the KX3
beyond the excellent Vertex 1210: A bolt-on 25W amplifier/atu/battery
container. The whole works could fit inside a waterproof,
shock-resistant Pelican-style case that would flip open to reveal the
KX3 as the 'control head' of the entire system. Such a configuration
would be unbeatable for EMCOMM and other tactical communications.

It wouldn't have to be produced by Elecraft, but it would certainly be
nice :-)

Nathon Hall
VE7ETS



AA1QG/LB7FA commented:

- 10 W is insufficient power for portable SSB operation ... [snip]


- ... Why not [lithium batteries] in the KX3??

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Yes, a water-proof completely enclosed  housing that will float.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Dave-Boat Guy anavig...@yahoo.com wrote:

 With all this interesting talk about the KX3, about the only thing that I
 can think that this radio needs is a ruggedized housing.  It may be a nice
 portable radio or suited for EMCOMM but I hate to have one sitting on a
 table when it begins to rain or on a bicycle with sweat dripping in through
 the panels or keypad.  I for one, wouldn't mind paying extra for a
 ruggedized version.  Until I see something that is moisture resistant, I'll
 just read the mail and wait and enjoy my ICOM IC-7200.

 Dave
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[Elecraft] K3EXREF

2011-05-31 Thread Jim Sheldon
Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail man 
should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the 
downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.  The 
hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split lockwasher on 
the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference mod has been 
mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I have a magnetized 
pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.) 

As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in 
opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3 
board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel, 
ran the cable, mounted the board  hardware per instructions, plugged in the 
cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not 
counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to 
set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or less 
total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the board, even 
with my poor eyesight.

The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a 
friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both 
ends that will match up perfectly.  -

I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away from 
the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display window 
flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode and 
re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item at 
which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I thought 
it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.

Jim - W0EB
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Brian Alsop
I'd be for a narrow side docking station that gets all the connectors 
out the back.  Maybe it can do dual duty and serve to mount the unit 
upright instead of laying on it's back.

With all cables in place, it resembles an octopus that would be hard to 
integrate into a fixed station.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 5/31/2011 16:37, Dave-Boat Guy wrote:
 With all this interesting talk about the KX3, about the only thing that I can 
 think that this radio needs is a ruggedized housing.  It may be a nice 
 portable radio or suited for EMCOMM but I hate to have one sitting on a table 
 when it begins to rain or on a bicycle with sweat dripping in through the 
 panels or keypad.  I for one, wouldn't mind paying extra for a ruggedized 
 version.  Until I see something that is moisture resistant, I'll just read 
 the mail and wait and enjoy my ICOM IC-7200.

 Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
He didn't design it for a fixed station, that at least is clear and on the
record somewhere.  His problem would be somewhere there is internal space to
support the jacks.  In a different box with more space in the rear, it could
be rewired to the back.  What I suspect, though, is that the jacks on the
side are actually soldered directly into the main circuit board, which would
be the most compact overall.

Modifying the position of the jacks would then require unsoldering the jacks
and extending wiring to somewhere else in a different case.  Perhaps the
boards could be supplied without the jacks, and the holes clear, to be wired
by the customer.

Guy

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I'd be for a narrow side docking station that gets all the connectors
 out the back.  Maybe it can do dual duty and serve to mount the unit
 upright instead of laying on it's back.

 With all cables in place, it resembles an octopus that would be hard to
 integrate into a fixed station.

 73 de Brian/K3KO

 On 5/31/2011 16:37, Dave-Boat Guy wrote:
  With all this interesting talk about the KX3, about the only thing that I
 can think that this radio needs is a ruggedized housing.  It may be a nice
 portable radio or suited for EMCOMM but I hate to have one sitting on a
 table when it begins to rain or on a bicycle with sweat dripping in through
 the panels or keypad.  I for one, wouldn't mind paying extra for a
 ruggedized version.  Until I see something that is moisture resistant, I'll
 just read the mail and wait and enjoy my ICOM IC-7200.
 
  Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
There's no room on the back of the radio for connectors.

Only one connector comes out of the right side -- the BNC antenna  
jack. This allows the KX3 to be used hand-held directly with a whip,  
or on the table with a BNC 'L' adapter and a whip. In a home or mobile  
installation you could use a BNC 'L' as well. These are very  
inexpensive.

The mating connectors on the left side would ideally be fitted with  
right-angle plugs. In fact all of the cables supplied with the KX3  
will have black, right-angle plugs for a neat appearance. This  
includes the power, mic, and PC (ACC) plugs. Headphones often have  
right-angle plugs as well.

On average, you'd only be using a couple of the left-side jacks. When  
operating from internal batteries, using the internal speaker and  
attached keyer paddle, nothing would be connected to the left side.  
Even if all jacks were in use, if you had right-angle plugs, they  
could be dressed cleanly toward the front (mic, headphones) or rear  
(key, ACC, power).

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 31, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:

 I'd be for a narrow side docking station that gets all the  
 connectors
 out the back.  Maybe it can do dual duty and serve to mount the unit
 upright instead of laying on it's back.

 With all cables in place, it resembles an octopus that would be hard  
 to
 integrate into a fixed station.

 73 de Brian/K3KO

 On 5/31/2011 16:37, Dave-Boat Guy wrote:
 With all this interesting talk about the KX3, about the only thing  
 that I can think that this radio needs is a ruggedized housing.  It  
 may be a nice portable radio or suited for EMCOMM but I hate to  
 have one sitting on a table when it begins to rain or on a bicycle  
 with sweat dripping in through the panels or keypad.  I for one,  
 wouldn't mind paying extra for a ruggedized version.  Until I see  
 something that is moisture resistant, I'll just read the mail and  
 wait and enjoy my ICOM IC-7200.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
I would strongly discourage any attempt to remove the SMD jacks and  
mount them elsewhere. These are high-quality SMD jacks placed in very  
carefully thought-out locations specifically to minimize signal path  
lengths.

Trust me, you'll like it the way it is :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 31, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

 He didn't design it for a fixed station, that at least is clear and  
 on the
 record somewhere.  His problem would be somewhere there is internal  
 space to
 support the jacks.  In a different box with more space in the rear,  
 it could
 be rewired to the back.  What I suspect, though, is that the jacks  
 on the
 side are actually soldered directly into the main circuit board,  
 which would
 be the most compact overall.

 Modifying the position of the jacks would then require unsoldering  
 the jacks
 and extending wiring to somewhere else in a different case.  Perhaps  
 the
 boards could be supplied without the jacks, and the holes clear, to  
 be wired
 by the customer.

 Guy

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Re: [Elecraft] WSPR

2011-05-31 Thread n5ge

In the USA we can blame that on the replacement of the official FCC examination
system with the Volunteer Examiner program and the change of the ARRL from a
technical organization for technical people (Hams) to an organization pushing
easy license acquisition to aid manufacturers in selling more ham gear and thus
increasing the income of the ARRL.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
   

On Tue, 31 May 2011 07:41:15 +0100, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

Very true, Ron, but the problem these days is that many of today's
brains seem incapable of decoding CW ;-(

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz writes

It's even more amazing how far 0.5 watts can be heard and information
exchanged using human brains as the encoder/decoder software.

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[Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Bill Myers
I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power to
85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1 and
an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual to
do that - am I missing something?

Bill K6IFF
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Sales

2011-05-31 Thread n5ge

Hi Klaus,

Possible Reasons:

Dayton Ham Convention, Friday through Monday last week,
US Memorial Holiday, Saturday through Monday This week.

Things should be back to normal in the USA now ;o)

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE


On Tue, 31 May 2011 08:18:21 +, Klaus Koppendorfer k...@ccf.net wrote:

Is there any problem with elecraft sales - my several mails due the last days 
are unanswered

73
Klaus
OE6KYG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

2011-05-31 Thread David Pratt
I am unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Jim.  I have checked ALARM,
MIC+LIN and ANTIVOX and all the characters are perfectly steady.
[Firmware:  4.36, DSP 2.14, FL 1.14]

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net writes
I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving
away from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B
display window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you
exit MENU mode and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look
at the REF CAL item at which time it starts flashing again.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

2011-05-31 Thread Matt Zilmer
Brendan also caught this...

matt

On Tue, 31 May 2011 19:19:20 +0100, you wrote:

I am unable to reproduce the anomaly here, Jim.  I have checked ALARM,
MIC+LIN and ANTIVOX and all the characters are perfectly steady.
[Firmware:  4.36, DSP 2.14, FL 1.14]

73 de David G4DMP

In a recent message, Jim Sheldon w...@cox.net writes
I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving
away from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B
display window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you
exit MENU mode and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look
at the REF CAL item at which time it starts flashing again.
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[Elecraft] KX3 at SeaPac?

2011-05-31 Thread stevewa
Will the KX3 be making an appearance at the Oregon Coast this weekend?

Thanks,

Steve
AD7OG

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3. I can use the DIGOUT1 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to
 just disable the KEY OUT circuit. I find no command in the
 Programmers  Manual to do that - am I missing something?

You *CAN NOT* disable Key Out.  It is a hardware output from the T/R
circuit (7R line).  Since 7R is high when the receive is on and low
when the receiver is off/muted there is *no way* to selectively disable
Key Out (see page 3 of the current schematic set).

This issue has been beat to death here ... it is a design feature of
the K3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/31/2011 2:13 PM, Bill Myers wrote:
 I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
 power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power to
 85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
 disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
 mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
 disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual to
 do that - am I missing something?

 Bill K6IFF


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
That seems like it has to be firmware.  Perhaps an off state that goes
away with any key input.  Or a command to tune, no key out, which is toggled
off by tapping tune?

On a related topic, what do people do with the XMIT button?  I never use it
as an alternate to footswitch or a panel mounted PTT.  I only ever use it
with a HOLD to initiate TUNE state, or tap to terminate TUNE.  Could the use
of XMIT be optionally changed to tune, no key out?

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Bill Myers foc...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
 power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power
 to
 85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
 disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
 mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1
 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
 disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual
 to
 do that - am I missing something?

 Bill K6IFF


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Re: [Elecraft] WSPR

2011-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Perhaps counter-intuitively, dropping the code requirement for ENTRY and
making CW voluntary, seems to be at the base of a CW RESURGENCE.

Since people CAN get pretty good copy with software, they are able to
participate in CW events.  Rather than dumbing down the events, most enjoy
the increased range and better noise immunity of CW, and gradually learn to
copy better themselves as they are able.  Logs in CW contests are UP rather
than down.  In contests many operators routinely send from keyboard or
programs at rates they can copy, but these are speeds at which they can no
longer make their wrists/fingers move reliably (myself included).  Way back,
I could send 45 WPM with a bug, and 50 plus with a keyer.  Zero chance of
that now.  I make mistakes above 25 wpm. I can TYPE as well as receive above
60 wpm.

Even those who just can't make CW fly are into the technical digital modes,
for just one example, note the rising numbers in RTTY contests.

I know that in PVRC, there are diehard SSB ops who are getting into the CW
tests because of the electronic assistance afforded in a transitional
learning period.

All is NOT lost.

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:15 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote:


 In the USA we can blame that on the replacement of the official FCC
 examination
 system with the Volunteer Examiner program and the change of the ARRL from
 a
 technical organization for technical people (Hams) to an organization
 pushing
 easy license acquisition to aid manufacturers in selling more ham gear and
 thus
 increasing the income of the ARRL.

 73,
 Tom
 Amateur Radio Operator N5GE


 On Tue, 31 May 2011 07:41:15 +0100, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
 wrote:

 Very true, Ron, but the problem these days is that many of today's
 brains seem incapable of decoding CW ;-(
 
 73 de David G4DMP
 
 In a recent message, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz writes
 
 It's even more amazing how far 0.5 watts can be heard and information
 exchanged using human brains as the encoder/decoder software.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Matt Zilmer
XMIT is pretty handy if you're using a data mode program that doesn't
have a serial port connection from the computer to the RS232 jack. For
a while, I was using MT63 in DM780 this way.  Until I got the serial
VSP's and a lot of USB - Serial mapping cleared up.

It makes a pretty lousy straight key though.  Might do better than
nothing in a pinch.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Tue, 31 May 2011 14:42:49 -0400, you wrote:

That seems like it has to be firmware.  Perhaps an off state that goes
away with any key input.  Or a command to tune, no key out, which is toggled
off by tapping tune?

On a related topic, what do people do with the XMIT button?  I never use it
as an alternate to footswitch or a panel mounted PTT.  I only ever use it
with a HOLD to initiate TUNE state, or tap to terminate TUNE.  Could the use
of XMIT be optionally changed to tune, no key out?

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Bill Myers foc...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
 power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power
 to
 85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
 disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
 mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1
 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
 disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual
 to
 do that - am I missing something?

 Bill K6IFF


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Re: [Elecraft] WSPR [END of CW portion of thread]

2011-05-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - In the interest of keeping our list email volume under control, 
let's end the CW pro/con/licensing etc thread  before it takes off.

Its a recurring thread best discussed on other forums or via direct 
email between interested parties.

73, Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Mike
Bill,

Are you saying when you activate your 85W macro it also keys the rig/amp? Maybe 
I 
misunderstand, but my macros don't key anything. PC053; for when I'm using the 
amp, 
PC100; when I'm not.

73, Mike NF4L

On 5/31/2011 2:13 PM, Bill Myers wrote:
 I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
 power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power to
 85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
 disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
 mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
 disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual to
 do that - am I missing something?

 Bill K6IFF


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Yes, yes, yes  You're right.  I keep forgetting this one.  I have some
mental block about it.  Sorry all for the blather.

It's one of the few control leads that are not driven by their own state
output from the CPU.  It's run off of 7R to add the transition time to the
state change in the amp for QSK. Works very well except for tuning after the
amp, that isn't auto-tuning in the amp.

73, Guy.

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3. I can use the DIGOUT1 and
  an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to
  just disable the KEY OUT circuit. I find no command in the
  Programmers  Manual to do that - am I missing something?

 You *CAN NOT* disable Key Out.  It is a hardware output from the T/R
 circuit (7R line).  Since 7R is high when the receive is on and low
 when the receiver is off/muted there is *no way* to selectively disable
 Key Out (see page 3 of the current schematic set).

 This issue has been beat to death here ... it is a design feature of
 the K3.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 5/31/2011 2:13 PM, Bill Myers wrote:
  I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro
 reduces
  power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power
 to
  85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
  disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
  mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1
 and
  an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
  disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual
 to
  do that - am I missing something?
 
  Bill K6IFF
 

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[Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread T Gahagan
For those that don’t know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check out the link in 
this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job of explaining many of the 
intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled me.  Block diagrams and step by step 
instructions on just about every facet of operation are really helpful.  Fred’s 
guide doesn’t replace the K3 manual by any means but it sure  has helped me 
determine if I have my K3 set up properly for what I am trying to accomplish.  
I have no financial interest in this product but thought reflector members 
might like to know about this new offering.

Todd, WA7U 



http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


Please! Key Out is not independently controlled by the K3 controller!
It is a hardware derivative of the 7R line (effectively Receiver Mute)
in the transceiver,  There *is no way* to control the behavior of the
Key Out line separately from 7R.  *PERIOD END OF STORY*

Key Out is a feature of the K3 design ... why can't people get it
through their heads (just look at the schematic) that Key Out can not
be changed and stop raising the issue in  different way every two
weeks?

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/31/2011 2:42 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
 That seems like it has to be firmware.  Perhaps an off state that goes
 away with any key input.  Or a command to tune, no key out, which is toggled
 off by tapping tune?

 On a related topic, what do people do with the XMIT button?  I never use it
 as an alternate to footswitch or a panel mounted PTT.  I only ever use it
 with a HOLD to initiate TUNE state, or tap to terminate TUNE.  Could the use
 of XMIT be optionally changed to tune, no key out?

 73, Guy.

 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Bill Myersfoc...@ix.netcom.com  wrote:

 I use a macro to control my external amp (not a KPA500).  One macro reduces
 power to the drive requirements of the amp, the other increases the power
 to
 85 W when I don't need the amp.  When I activate the 85 W macro, I must
 disable the amp or it gets hit with the 85 W sending it into the protect
 mode.  I want to disable the KEY OUT from the K3.  I can use the DIGOUT1
 and
 an external relay to do that, but it would certainly be cleaner to just
 disable the KEY OUT circuit.  I find no command in the Programmers Manual
 to
 do that - am I missing something?

 Bill K6IFF


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[Elecraft] KX3 pics

2011-05-31 Thread Mike Morrow
I suspect that the mechanical/industrial and even electrical design of the KX3
must be pretty well set by now if there's to be any chance of it reaching market
before next year.  Some of the recent suggestions would require design 
alterations
that probably seem small to the suggester but would likely be quite considerable
this late.

As proposed, it's such a profoundly innovative and capable set that one can't
help being more than satisfied and astonished by what's pictured and described
in the preliminary product announcement.  It's the most amazing radio I've seen
in 44 years as a ham, including the stuff I saw when I was in the military.

So, here's **all** (my complete list!) I'd like to see considered:
(1)  As suggested earlier, lower profile knobs (by about 50 percent) would seem
 most appropriate for something not likely to live in stationary luxury.
 It'll get toted everywhere...front panel stresses will be unavoidable.
 Knobs and control shafts will be the areas of greatest potential stress
 and damage.  Lower profile (length) knobs reduce the exposure and moment 
arm
 on the shafts.  At least, this could be an option.
(2)  A hard plastic clamshell that snapped on over the front panel when in 
transit
 would be a welcome option.  It could even have a compartment for the 
paddle,
 stereo earbuds, a small microphone, and an external DC cable without 
increasing
 the volume needed to completely cover the controls, creating an enclosed 
brick.
 Make it simple.  I don't like the concept of an optional hard case with 
foam for
 the KX3.  That would be great as luggage, I guess, but it would create a 
package
 several times the volume and weight of the KX3.  Such an item could not be
 happily used on backpack trips or even day hikes.  Something is needed 
that adds
 marginally to the volume and weight of the KX3 while providing some 
protection
 in a pack.  
(3)  Grill cloth behind the speaker grill plate is needed.  I'll bet that's 
planned,
 but the speaker cone was visible on the examples at Dayton.  The space 
between
 speaker and grill is a potential accumulator of crud unless there is cloth 
as
 a barrier.  It provides a little more protection for the cone, and it just 
looks
 a lot better.

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] 70 MHz on K3

2011-05-31 Thread Eric-Jan Wösten
Hi,

 

 

Any chance K3 will be able to have 70 MHz rx/tx ?  

 

 

vy 73 Eric, PA3CEV

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[Elecraft] SSB and KX3

2011-05-31 Thread Benny Aumala
Possibility for SSB transmission is needed.
If power increase is wanted, 20dB is a good step.
SSB quality is sufficient for that, isn t it?

Benny OH9NB
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[Elecraft] Elecraft web site shipping status

2011-05-31 Thread Jim Spears
Is still showing May 9 which means that the info should be badly out of date
now.  Update please.

 

Jim/N1NK

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[Elecraft] WSPR using K3/Dell Laptop/VISTA

2011-05-31 Thread stan levandowski
I'd like to hear from anyone successfully using WSPR with the 
combination of K3/Dell Inspiron 1525 Laptop/Vista Basic.

I'm just operating in 'receive' mode at this time and sometimes it works 
and sometimes it doesn't.  When it works it seems to work well and 
properly; when it doesn't work I see a red box with RX Noise -30 DBM 
in the lower left corner and another red box next to it saying Invalid 
Audio Output Device.

I have tried two different stereo patch cords from the K3 Lin Out to the 
Mic, and a headset plugged into the K3 Lin Out does produce sound. 
Fellow Elecrafter Tony, KT0NY helped me get started and gave me some 
software menu guidance but now we're both stumped.

It's the random nature of sometimes it works; sometimes it doesn't 
that's driving me crazy.

I'm fairly confident the computer's 'mic'  circuitry works OK because 
I've been regularly making and uploading CW audio files for a fellow ham 
who wants to learn morse code the correct way (i.e. aural only; never 
look at it).

I'd just like to know if anyone else has experienced a similar problem 
with laptop interface.

Thanks,  Stan WB2LQF
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[Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Roland Whitsitt
I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is resistant 
to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar emp and only the old 
timers will be on the air with their tube rigs. Wonder if the military thinks 
about these things. H. 
de n5vwm

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Re: [Elecraft] SSB and KX3

2011-05-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Benny,

Yes, the KX3 will do SSB (as well as CW, data, FM, and AM).

I think what you're asking is: Is the KX3's SSB output clean enough  
for amplification by 20 dB?  The answer is yes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 31, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Benny Aumala wrote:

 Possibility for SSB transmission is needed.
 If power increase is wanted, 20dB is a good step.
 SSB quality is sufficient for that, isn t it?

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics + Newbie.

2011-05-31 Thread Jack Chomley
This is my first post to the group, I am an Elecraft newbie having just 
bought a K2 kit for SSB and having owned a T1 ATU for some time. I am also a 
digital modes freak! 
Operating portable/mobile is my main interest. I have a collection of portable 
radios, including my Codan X2 backpack pedestrian mobile setup, what with 3 
Icom 703, 1 FT817, 2 Icom 7200, 1 SG-2020, 2 Icom 706MKII radios, I am really 
looking forward to the KX3 radio:-)
The KX3 will be a great radio, just as it is:-) 
It's  easy to 'add' ideas to any product design, after you see what the KX3 is 
going to be.  Just imagine what would result IF everyone was asked to design a 
radio along the lines of the KX3 from the ground up.
For a start, it would be unaffordable, the RX current would be high (because of 
all the junk bells and whistles in it) I could go on, but I won't :-)
Just produce the KX3 as it is, so I  can I buy it soon!

73,

Jack. VK4JRC

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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread R. Kevin Stover
The military can afford it.
Very few hams that I know would be able to.



On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:01:10 -0700
Roland Whitsitt n5...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is
 resistant to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar
 emp and only the old timers will be on the air with their tube rigs.
 Wonder if the military thinks about these things. H. de n5vwm
 




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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
Semaphore from mountain tops would be a low-cost alternative, and  
you'd get plenty of exercise, too. Back to the 18th century

Wayne
N6KR

On May 31, 2011, at 1:13 PM, R. Kevin Stover wrote:

 The military can afford it.
 Very few hams that I know would be able to.



 On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:01:10 -0700
 Roland Whitsitt n5...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is
 resistant to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar
 emp and only the old timers will be on the air with their tube rigs.
 Wonder if the military thinks about these things. H. de n5vwm





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 pics + Newbie.

2011-05-31 Thread Buddy Brannan
Hey Jack,

Returning to the list, mostly because of the KX3. I have a KX1 and a K2/100 
now, just scored the KAT100 last year off eBay. The K2 is a fantastic rig, 
great on cw, good on SSB as well. And with the KRC2-AC connected, fully 
accessible for blind ops like myself. I didn't build my K2 (because I'm all 
thumbs besides being blind), but it has an interesting story attached to it. 
Well, I think it's an interesting story anyway. My KX1 wen to Ukraine with me 
when we went to adopt our daughter in 2004, where it kept me from climbing the 
walls and going absolutely stir crazy. (Yes, really. Being literally locked in 
an apartment apart from orphanage visits does that.) Needless to say, I didn't 
build it either. Even so, I'm definitely an Elecraft fan, and I'm very much 
looking forward to the KX3. Paired with a portable vertical (I have a Bluestar 
Antennas P1), the possibilities are very exciting. Paired with something like 
the MFJ collapsing whips for a pedestrian mobile or pedestrian por
 table fun time? Yeah, I'm jazzed. 

Sure, we can redesign the thing 'till the cows come home, but I'm confident in 
Eric and Wayne's abilities in this regard. But I'll squawk loudest if I can't 
use it :-)
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On May 31, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Jack Chomley wrote:

 This is my first post to the group, I am an Elecraft newbie having just 
 bought a K2 kit for SSB and having owned a T1 ATU for some time. I am also a 
 digital modes freak! 
 Operating portable/mobile is my main interest. I have a collection of 
 portable radios, including my Codan X2 backpack pedestrian mobile setup, what 
 with 3 Icom 703, 1 FT817, 2 Icom 7200, 1 SG-2020, 2 Icom 706MKII radios, I am 
 really looking forward to the KX3 radio:-)
 The KX3 will be a great radio, just as it is:-) 
 It's  easy to 'add' ideas to any product design, after you see what the KX3 
 is going to be.  Just imagine what would result IF everyone was asked to 
 design a radio along the lines of the KX3 from the ground up.
 For a start, it would be unaffordable, the RX current would be high (because 
 of all the junk bells and whistles in it) I could go on, but I won't :-)
 Just produce the KX3 as it is, so I  can I buy it soon!
 
 73,
 
 Jack. VK4JRC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Doug Turnbull
Kevin and company, 
You have done it and some how added another item to the Elecraft list of
upgrades.   I have a friend, K1VGF who use to work in nuclear safety and he
tells me that the military does indeed keep communications equipment
protected from EMP but who wants to go there - not me.   I am glad that
Elecraft has stuck with the humble ham market at which they excel as once
involved with the military their energies will be otherwise directed.
Sometimes I think that America would be more successful in manufacturing and
export if her engineers paid more attention to the civil market and in
saying this I am most definitely not being critical of a strong military.
In Europe Germany with her low military profile has the most successful
export industry.

 I am being selfish and do not want others to take this company away
from us.   Some old timers still moan the loss of Drake to television.   The
2B was a great receiver in its day even rivaling the Collins 75A4 and
beating that beautiful work of engineering when it came to bang for buck.
I am so happy with Elecraft that I purchased a second K3 and will be
clearing out other radios from the shack.   I note still more of the better
CQ WPX contesters using K3s.   That little K1 looks like fun and the KX3
should be an easy one to operate for any K3 user.   Guess I am being too
much of a booster and Sinclair Lewis might have something to say about this.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: 31 May 2011 21:18
To: R. Kevin Stover
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

Semaphore from mountain tops would be a low-cost alternative, and  
you'd get plenty of exercise, too. Back to the 18th century

Wayne
N6KR

On May 31, 2011, at 1:13 PM, R. Kevin Stover wrote:

 The military can afford it.
 Very few hams that I know would be able to.



 On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:01:10 -0700
 Roland Whitsitt n5...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is
 resistant to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar
 emp and only the old timers will be on the air with their tube rigs.
 Wonder if the military thinks about these things. H. de n5vwm





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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread Dave Hachadorian
The KE7X Guide has an interesting discussion about the 
shortcomings of the K3's AGC in a CW pileup situation.  I have 
complained about this AGC issue several times, but there has not 
yet been any effective solution.

The K3's AGC, even at SLP=0 and THR=8, compresses CW signals at 
too low a threshold and too flat a slope.  Signals in a pileup 
are all mushed together by the AGC.  It's not an IMD problem, 
it's a compression problem.  The usual solution, turning AGC OFF, 
is thwarted by the AF Limiter's extreme distortion on even 
moderately loud signals, even at its max setting AF LIM = 030.

If you have extremely sensitive headphones, and a very quiet 
shack, you can turn AGC OFF and turn the overall receiver gain 
down to where the AF Limiter rarely triggers, but one shouldn't 
have to jump through these fiery hoops.  With a TS-850, you could 
turn AGC OFF, and a loud signal would not blow your ears off, and 
would not be severely distorted.  If they could do that in 1989, 
it should be doable today.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ



-Original Message- 
From: T Gahagan
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:06 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

For those that don’t know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check 
out the link in this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job 
of explaining many of the intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled 
me.  Block diagrams and step by step instructions on just about 
every facet of operation are really helpful.  Fred’s guide doesn’t 
replace the K3 manual by any means but it sure  has helped me 
determine if I have my K3 set up properly for what I am trying to 
accomplish.  I have no financial interest in this product but 
thought reflector members might like to know about this new 
offering.

Todd, WA7U



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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Pete Smith
Naturally occurring solar EMP should only be a problem outside the 
Earth's magnetic field.  As for a man-made EMP event, I suggest we will 
have other, more important  things to worry about if that happens.

73, Pete N4ZR

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The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000



On 5/31/2011 4:01 PM, Roland Whitsitt wrote:
 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is resistant 
 to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar emp and only the old 
 timers will be on the air with their tube rigs. Wonder if the military thinks 
 about these things. H.
 de n5vwm

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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Phil LaMarche
EMP!  Please read the book One Second After  You won't be able to put it
down.

Phil

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Pete Smith
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:45 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

Naturally occurring solar EMP should only be a problem outside the Earth's
magnetic field.  As for a man-made EMP event, I suggest we will have other,
more important  things to worry about if that happens.

73, Pete N4ZR

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On 5/31/2011 4:01 PM, Roland Whitsitt wrote:
 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is
resistant to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar emp and
only the old timers will be on the air with their tube rigs. Wonder if the
military thinks about these things. H.
 de n5vwm

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[Elecraft] [K2] FS: KPA100 KAT100-1

2011-05-31 Thread Pat Cain KØPC
I have the following items for sale.

KPA100 $300 (shipping within US included)

KAT100-1 $180 (shipping within US included)

Both items for $470.

Both items are in excellent condition and work correctly. I am keeping my 
twelve year old K2 but selling these items to help finance a K3. Pictures 
available on request.

Please reply directly to k...@arrl.net off the list.

73, Pat  K0PC
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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio [End of thread]

2011-05-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Let's end the EMP thread for now. Its another recurring thread 
and can be easily searched for in the list archives at:
www.elecraft.com/elist.html

73, Eric
List moderator

On 5/31/2011 1:44 PM, Pete Smith wrote:
 Naturally occurring solar EMP should only be a problem outside the
 Earth's magnetic field.  As for a man-made EMP event, I suggest we will
 have other, more important  things to worry about if that happens.

 73, Pete N4ZR


 On 5/31/2011 4:01 PM, Roland Whitsitt wrote:
 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is 
 resistant to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar emp and 
 only the old timers will be on the air with their tube rigs. Wonder if the 
 military thinks about these things. H.
 de n5vwm

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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dave,

The K3 provides two alternatives to turning off AGC in this situation.  
We closely examined the effect of these on multiple close-spaced  
signals, and both reduce IMD considerably:

1. CONFIG:AGC DCY sets the AGC decay characteristic, and applies to  
both AGC-S and AGC-F (slow and fast AGC). The default setting NOR,  
provides a traditional linear decay. The SOFT setting applies a soft  
exponential decay. It typically reduces in-band IMD by 10-15 dB.

1. CONFIG:AGC HLD adds a hold timer to slow AGC-S (slow AGC) only.  
It behaves as if you were manually (and very quickly) riding the RF  
GAIN control, reducing gain when a very strong signal comes in, then  
turning it back up N seconds later. The normal setting is 0.00 (no  
hold time); a typical setting for pileup conditions might be 0.40.  
This can reduce in-band IMD as much as turning AGC off.

Please give these AGC alternatives a try.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 31, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 The KE7X Guide has an interesting discussion about the
 shortcomings of the K3's AGC in a CW pileup situation.  I have
 complained about this AGC issue several times, but there has not
 yet been any effective solution.

 The K3's AGC, even at SLP=0 and THR=8, compresses CW signals at
 too low a threshold and too flat a slope.  Signals in a pileup
 are all mushed together by the AGC.  It's not an IMD problem,
 it's a compression problem.  The usual solution, turning AGC OFF,
 is thwarted by the AF Limiter's extreme distortion on even
 moderately loud signals, even at its max setting AF LIM = 030.

 If you have extremely sensitive headphones, and a very quiet
 shack, you can turn AGC OFF and turn the overall receiver gain
 down to where the AF Limiter rarely triggers, but one shouldn't
 have to jump through these fiery hoops.  With a TS-850, you could
 turn AGC OFF, and a loud signal would not blow your ears off, and
 would not be severely distorted.  If they could do that in 1989,
 it should be doable today.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, AZ



 -Original Message-
 From: T Gahagan
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:06 PM
 To: Elecraft List
 Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

 For those that don’t know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check
 out the link in this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job
 of explaining many of the intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled
 me.  Block diagrams and step by step instructions on just about
 every facet of operation are really helpful.  Fred’s guide doesn’t
 replace the K3 manual by any means but it sure  has helped me
 determine if I have my K3 set up properly for what I am trying to
 accomplish.  I have no financial interest in this product but
 thought reflector members might like to know about this new
 offering.

 Todd, WA7U



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Bill Myers
Mike,

My macro doesn't key the K3/amp, but if I forget to reach over and take the
amp off-line before I do key, the protect circuit will shut the amp down
with the 85 W input.  I remember ninety-five percent of the time - but
sometimes in the heat of things ... (or maybe during just a sr. moment or
two!) ...

Bill K6IFF

Are you saying when you activate your 85W macro it also keys the rig/amp? 
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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread Andy Faber
Wayne,
  I would add that I have found that using AGC-S with SLP=6 and THR=6 gives 
me the abilty in CW pileups to separate out the signals by riding the RF 
gain control, without turning off the AVC and risking getting blown out by 
strong signals.  I used these settings in WPX CW this past weekend and found 
them very effective.  It's hard to figure this out on the fly, but I had 
tied varying the settings by listending to another stations's pileup a few 
contests ago.
  The K3 is just a great run radio: unless the adjacent stations have 
clicks, you simply don't hear them (though the P3 shows just where they are 
if you want to optimize your frequency between big signals).
  73, andy ae6y, p49y
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To: Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X


Dave,

The K3 provides two alternatives to turning off AGC in this situation.
We closely examined the effect of these on multiple close-spaced
signals, and both reduce IMD considerably:

1. CONFIG:AGC DCY sets the AGC decay characteristic, and applies to
both AGC-S and AGC-F (slow and fast AGC). The default setting NOR,
provides a traditional linear decay. The SOFT setting applies a soft
exponential decay. It typically reduces in-band IMD by 10-15 dB.

1. CONFIG:AGC HLD adds a hold timer to slow AGC-S (slow AGC) only.
It behaves as if you were manually (and very quickly) riding the RF
GAIN control, reducing gain when a very strong signal comes in, then
turning it back up N seconds later. The normal setting is 0.00 (no
hold time); a typical setting for pileup conditions might be 0.40.
This can reduce in-band IMD as much as turning AGC off.

Please give these AGC alternatives a try.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 31, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 The KE7X Guide has an interesting discussion about the
 shortcomings of the K3's AGC in a CW pileup situation.  I have
 complained about this AGC issue several times, but there has not
 yet been any effective solution.

 The K3's AGC, even at SLP=0 and THR=8, compresses CW signals at
 too low a threshold and too flat a slope.  Signals in a pileup
 are all mushed together by the AGC.  It's not an IMD problem,
 it's a compression problem.  The usual solution, turning AGC OFF,
 is thwarted by the AF Limiter's extreme distortion on even
 moderately loud signals, even at its max setting AF LIM = 030.

 If you have extremely sensitive headphones, and a very quiet
 shack, you can turn AGC OFF and turn the overall receiver gain
 down to where the AF Limiter rarely triggers, but one shouldn't
 have to jump through these fiery hoops.  With a TS-850, you could
 turn AGC OFF, and a loud signal would not blow your ears off, and
 would not be severely distorted.  If they could do that in 1989,
 it should be doable today.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Yuma, AZ



 -Original Message-
 From: T Gahagan
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:06 PM
 To: Elecraft List
 Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

 For those that don’t know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check
 out the link in this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job
 of explaining many of the intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled
 me.  Block diagrams and step by step instructions on just about
 every facet of operation are really helpful.  Fred’s guide doesn’t
 replace the K3 manual by any means but it sure  has helped me
 determine if I have my K3 set up properly for what I am trying to
 accomplish.  I have no financial interest in this product but
 thought reflector members might like to know about this new
 offering.

 Todd, WA7U



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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Folks,
Please hold off going to the ke7x.com website to order the book (you can look 
at some of the samples from chapters, though.) I want to have one final, final, 
last look at it before releasing it.
Thanks for all the interest.
Fred


Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org 
 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
 boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of T Gahagan
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:07 PM
 To: Elecraft List
 Subject: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X
 
 For those that don’t know about the new K3 guide by KE7X check out the
 link in this message.  Fred has done an outstanding job of explaining
 many of the intricacies of the K3 that have puzzled me.  Block diagrams
 and step by step instructions on just about every facet of operation
 are really helpful.  Fred’s guide doesn’t replace the K3 manual by any
 means but it sure  has helped me determine if I have my K3 set up
 properly for what I am trying to accomplish.  I have no financial
 interest in this product but thought reflector members might like to
 know about this new offering.
 
 Todd, WA7U
 
 
 
 http://www.ke7x.com/home/guide-to-the-k3
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Re: [Elecraft] New K3 guide by KE7X

2011-05-31 Thread Andy Faber
I'm sorry for the bandwidth, but upon rereading my recent message, I'm 
appalled at all my spelling mistakes, so here is a corrected message.
 73, Andy, AE6Y

Wayne,
  I would add that I have found that using AGC-S with SLP=6 and THR=6 gives
me the ability in CW pileups to separate out the signals by riding the RF
gain control, without turning off the AVC and risking getting blown out by
strong signals.  I used these settings in WPX CW this past weekend and found
them very effective.  It's hard to figure this out on the fly, but I had
tried varying the settings by listening to another station's pileup a few
contests ago.
  The K3 is just a great run radio: unless the adjacent stations have
clicks, you simply don't hear them (though the P3 shows just where they are
if you want to optimize your frequency between big signals).
  73, andy ae6y, p49y


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Mike
AYeah, mine does too. It's a good reminder.
73, Mike

On 5/31/2011 5:32 PM, Bill Myers wrote:
 Mike,

 My macro doesn't key the K3/amp, but if I forget to reach over and take the
 amp off-line before I do key, the protect circuit will shut the amp down
 with the 85 W input.  I remember ninety-five percent of the time - but
 sometimes in the heat of things ... (or maybe during just a sr. moment or
 two!) ...

 Bill K6IFF

 Are you saying when you activate your 85W macro it also keys the rig/amp?
 Mike NF4L


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Vic K2VCO
I use the DIGOUT1 line to enable my amp, as someone mentioned. It's reliable 
because you 
can turn it on or off and not just change its state, as with some other 
parameters.

You would be amazed at how much output you can get from a single 3-500Z (for a 
very short 
time!) if you hit it with 110 watts of drive. I found out before implementing 
DIGOUT1, but 
luckily the tube survived.

On 5/31/2011 2:32 PM, Bill Myers wrote:
 Mike,

 My macro doesn't key the K3/amp, but if I forget to reach over and take the
 amp off-line before I do key, the protect circuit will shut the amp down
 with the 85 W input.  I remember ninety-five percent of the time - but
 sometimes in the heat of things ... (or maybe during just a sr. moment or
 two!) ...

 Bill K6IFF

 Are you saying when you activate your 85W macro it also keys the rig/amp?
 Mike NF4L

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[Elecraft] K2's Future

2011-05-31 Thread Gary Reich
As the owner of 2 K2s which I built I am curious about the future of the K2
now that the KX3 is being developed. Since the K2 is a mature radio the only
viable upgrades would be in the firmware. In the distant past Wayne
mentioned the possibility of a new MCU which would increase the available
space available for new code. Likewise Alan Bloom mentioned the possibility
of writing some code which would allow the P3 to comunicate with the K2 on a
limited level. Is there a market for this type of upgrade or is the K2
obsolete?
Hopefully someday I'll upgrade to the K3 but until then I'll stick with the
K2.
73, Gary YS1GR

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[Elecraft] KX3 Specs..

2011-05-31 Thread Dave KK7SS
Any preliminary (and I stress the word 'preliminary') specs on the KX3 
receiver??

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Vic,

I am going to lobby for an Amp Inhibit input in every amplifier that 
will accept exactly what your external relay driven by DIGOUT1 signal is 
doing. :-)

IT does not have to place the amp in standby, it just opens the Key In 
line, and would be easily be done inside the amplifier.  When the signal 
is present, the amp ignores the Key In line.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/31/2011 6:10 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 I use the DIGOUT1 line to enable my amp, as someone mentioned. It's reliable 
 because you
 can turn it on or off and not just change its state, as with some other 
 parameters.

 You would be amazed at how much output you can get from a single 3-500Z (for 
 a very short
 time!) if you hit it with 110 watts of drive. I found out before implementing 
 DIGOUT1, but
 luckily the tube survived.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro to control KEY OUT

2011-05-31 Thread Vic K2VCO
That is exactly what I built into my homebrew amplifier and my SB-1000. It is 
an input 
that disables the key line if it doesn't see +12v. I use DIGOUT1 to turn on a 
transistor 
switch that applies the 12v to the amp.

On 5/31/2011 3:25 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Vic,

 I am going to lobby for an Amp Inhibit input in every amplifier that will 
 accept exactly
 what your external relay driven by DIGOUT1 signal is doing. :-)

 IT does not have to place the amp in standby, it just opens the Key In line, 
 and would be
 easily be done inside the amplifier. When the signal is present, the amp 
 ignores the Key
 In line.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


 On 5/31/2011 6:10 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 I use the DIGOUT1 line to enable my amp, as someone mentioned. It's reliable 
 because you
 can turn it on or off and not just change its state, as with some other 
 parameters.

 You would be amazed at how much output you can get from a single 3-500Z (for 
 a very short
 time!) if you hit it with 110 watts of drive. I found out before 
 implementing DIGOUT1, but
 luckily the tube survived.


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Fresno CA
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Re: [Elecraft] K2's Future

2011-05-31 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Gary,

The K2 is not obsolete, but certainly is mature (there is a BIG difference).
You will continue to see the K2 supported by Elecraft - at least for 
repair and the normal definitions of support.

You may or may not see any further changes to the K2 - either hardware 
or firmware.  Situation - if the projected sales for P3s will be 
enhanced sufficiently by modifying the K2 firmware to work better with 
it, then you may see an updated K2 firmware to provide that support.  
But consider that the stock K2 has no IF output (other than the Clifton 
Labs Z1 buffer).  While that IF output works well, I would think 
that Elecraft would want to pull such a K2 IF output in house before 
working on K2 firmware to utilize the P3 functionality.  Such 
combinations  of situations create a business decision process for 
Elecraft (or any other company).  I for one would not want to do 
development work on something that is under someone else's control (like 
the K2 IF output).

If you want a bit different perspective, just look at the numbers.  The 
K2 has recently hit SN 7000 over the past 12 years it has been 
produced.  In a much shorter time, the K3 has already shipped about that 
same number.  Guess which one gets the most attention for enhancements.

Bottom line -- Your K2s will not be obsolete, and Elecraft will continue 
to provide support, but there may be no further enhancements.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/31/2011 6:20 PM, Gary Reich wrote:
 As the owner of 2 K2s which I built I am curious about the future of the K2
 now that the KX3 is being developed. Since the K2 is a mature radio the only
 viable upgrades would be in the firmware. In the distant past Wayne
 mentioned the possibility of a new MCU which would increase the available
 space available for new code. Likewise Alan Bloom mentioned the possibility
 of writing some code which would allow the P3 to comunicate with the K2 on a
 limited level. Is there a market for this type of upgrade or is the K2
 obsolete?
 Hopefully someday I'll upgrade to the K3 but until then I'll stick with the
 K2.
 73, Gary YS1GR

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[Elecraft] Stopping junk mail 2

2011-05-31 Thread Mike Rodgers
I saw a recommendation and wonder if you computer guys know if it would work or 
not. 

Suggestion was to add in your address book something like.  
aaa...@a.com

When that was unsuccessful, the intruding program would cease and move on and 
you would get a undeliverable notice. 

Thoughts? Would that work?

73
Mike R

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[Elecraft] Elecraft hello

2011-05-31 Thread wb5tuf
Elecraft, I just wanted to share this opportunity with you, I've been making 
200-300 dollars a day and I started only a week ago. Check out this news 
article and it will show you how to get started, it's definitely easy enough 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2's Future

2011-05-31 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/31/2011 3:20 PM, Gary Reich wrote:
 As the owner of 2 K2s which I built I am curious about the future of the K2
 now that the KX3 is being developed. Since the K2 is a mature radio the only
 viable upgrades would be in the firmware.

OK, I'm a little confused, but then that's pretty much a permanent state 
for me at this age.  I have K2 #4398.  I have the KAT2, the SSB adapter 
[never used], and the AF2 [used a lot once I figured out how to use it]. 
  Oh yes, there's a real-time clock in there too, don't know where and 
never used.  I bought a KAT100 and KPA100 from another ham a number of 
years ago, don't use them any more.  If anyone wants them, let me know.

My K2 is still exactly the radio I bought and built.  It still does 
exactly what I bought it for.  I'm not looking for upgrades, I have a 
serious aversion to upgrades after a career in engineering, HW and SW. 
I can't really think of anything that would make my K2 better than it 
already is.  It is my field radio, I use it for summit activations, and 
field contests where I don't have to weigh my radio.  For that I use the 
KX1, which also doesn't need upgrading.

I wish I had kept my S3-Line, a mature radio.  I also wish I had kept 
my 2B, another mature radio.  Change happens, things do get better 
[but not always], but how can a radio become obsolete if it still does 
what it always did and all of that is still rampant on the ham bands?

73,

Fred K6DGW
Mature Ham
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Re: [Elecraft] Stopping junk mail 2

2011-05-31 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I'm not sure if it works, but I have it in my box and have not been hit yet!
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart 





From: Mike Rodgers mikerodgerske5...@yahoo.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, May 31, 2011 6:04:52 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Stopping junk mail 2

I saw a recommendation and wonder if you computer guys know if it would work or 
not. 


Suggestion was to add in your address book something like.  
aaa...@a.com

When that was unsuccessful, the intruding program would cease and move on and 
you would get a undeliverable notice. 


Thoughts? Would that work?

73
Mike R

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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread Wes Stewart
Just offer a new option, the K3NED.

Nuclear Event Detection is standard in some military products.

http://www.electroniccomponents.geaviationsystems.com/Products/Standard-Products/Nuclear-Event-Detectors/index.asp

http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/Detector-provides-circumvention-against-nuclear-blast-10792

Wes  N7WS

--- On Tue, 5/31/11, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Semaphore from mountain tops would be
 a low-cost alternative, and  
 you'd get plenty of exercise, too. Back to the 18th
 century
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 On May 31, 2011, at 1:13 PM, R. Kevin Stover wrote:
 
  The military can afford it.
  Very few hams that I know would be able to.
 
 
 
  On Tue, 31 May 2011 13:01:10 -0700
  Roland Whitsitt n5...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day
 transceiver that is
  resistant to an emp event, either solar or
 manmade. One good solar
  emp and only the old timers will be on the air
 with their tube rigs.
  Wonder if the military thinks about these things.
 H. de n5vwm
 
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[Elecraft] Visual CW Zero-beat Indicator - K2?

2011-05-31 Thread Scott Walker
The K6XX kit from EPA QRP Club:
I am unable to make the one I built work.  I have verified that the
LED works, I have 5V to the board, and I have reheated all the solder
joints.
SMT maybe too much for my old eyes to deal with...
Does anyone on the list have a KNOWN WORKING board they would be
willing to part with?  Contact me if so.
TNX 73
-Scott N3SW-
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Kits - Is today the day?

2011-05-31 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Well, here's hoping, today maybe the day - That we get our delivery advices. 

The suspense is killin me! :-)
(Particularly as I have already had a bit of a 'play' with one)


73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Innisfail, QLD, Australia
Elecraft K3 #4257 + KPA500 + PR6 + K144XV = Multiband greatness!
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft hello

2011-05-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
wb5...@earthlink.net has been placed into moderate mode. All future 
postings from this address will be reviewed before posting to the list.

Eric


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits - Is today the day?

2011-05-31 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're beginning to ship KPA500 kits this week, but we have hundreds of 
orders that came in during the first weeks. It will take us into July to 
test and ship all of these.  We'll notify everyone as their amp kit 
comes up for shipping.

73, Eric
Runnin' as fast as we can in CA.


On 5/31/2011 5:59 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF wrote:
 Well, here's hoping, today maybe the day - That we get our delivery advices.

 The suspense is killin me! :-)
 (Particularly as I have already had a bit of a 'play' with one)


 73 de
 Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits - Is today the day?

2011-05-31 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Many thanks Eric for the info.
I am so looking forward to its arrival.

73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Innisfail, QLD, Australia
Elecraft K3 #4257 + KPA500 + PR6 + K144XV = Multiband greatness!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
  To: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF 
  Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 11:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits - Is today the day?


  We're beginning to ship KPA500 kits this week, but we have hundreds of 
  orders that came in during the first weeks. It will take us into July to 
  test and ship all of these.  We'll notify everyone as their amp kit 
  comes up for shipping.

  73, Eric
  Runnin' as fast as we can in CA.


  On 5/31/2011 5:59 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF wrote:
   Well, here's hoping, today maybe the day - That we get our delivery advices.
  
   The suspense is killin me! :-)
   (Particularly as I have already had a bit of a 'play' with one)
  
  
   73 de
   Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
  
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Re: [Elecraft] EMP radio

2011-05-31 Thread David Elliott
Does anyone remember what a Faraday cage is?  All you have to do is to keep a 
spare transceiver in a metal box.  After the event, it will be fine.

73 de W6BK


On May 31, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Roland Whitsitt wrote:

 I wonder if anybody has considered a modern day transceiver that is resistant 
 to an emp event, either solar or manmade. One good solar emp and only the old 
 timers will be on the air with their tube rigs. Wonder if the military thinks 
 about these things. H. 
 de n5vwm
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

2011-05-31 Thread Igor Kosvin
Jim,
I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you wrote. Good pair
of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is present exactly as
you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I have MCU=4.36,
FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
73,
Igor, N1YX

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sheldon
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:57 PM
To: Elecraft Mailing List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail
man should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the
downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.
The hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split
lockwasher on the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference
mod has been mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I
have a magnetized pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.) 

As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in
opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3
board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel,
ran the cable, mounted the board  hardware per instructions, plugged in the
cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not
counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to
set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or
less total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the
board, even with my poor eyesight.

The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a
friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both
ends that will match up perfectly.  -

I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away
from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display
window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode
and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item
at which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I
thought it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.

Jim - W0EB
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[Elecraft] [K2] FS: KPA100 KAT100-1

2011-05-31 Thread Pat Cain KØPC
Both items have been sold. Thanks!

73, Pat  K0PC


I have the following items for sale.

KPA100 $300 (shipping within US included)

KAT100-1 $180 (shipping within US included)

Both items for $470.

Both items are in excellent condition and work correctly. I am keeping my 
twelve year old K2 but selling these items to help finance a K3. Pictures 
available on request.

Please reply directly to k0pc at arrl.net off the list.

73, Pat  K0PC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

2011-05-31 Thread Brett Howard
This was a known bug that was found in field test.  I submitted it to
Wayne and he's all over it.

~Brett

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Igor Kosvin k.i...@comcast.net wrote:
 Jim,
 I installed the K3EXREF today. I agree with everything you wrote. Good pair
 of tweezers took care of the lock washer. The anomaly is present exactly as
 you described. Not affecting performance, but it is there. I have MCU=4.36,
 FPF=1.14, DSP1=DSP2=2.73.
 73,
 Igor, N1YX

 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sheldon
 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:57 PM
 To: Elecraft Mailing List
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3EXREF

 Tracking number I got from Lisa says it is supposed to be here today.  Mail
 man should be here in a few minutes, so, following the instructions in the
 downloadable manual, I have the K3 opened up and ready to do the install.
 The hardest part of the whole thing will be re-installing that split
 lockwasher on the backside of the KREF3 board once the external reference
 mod has been mounted.  Everything else is a piece of cake.  (Actually, I
 have a magnetized pair of long tweezers that should do the job nicely.)

 As I was writing this, the mailman brought the package.  Time involved in
 opening the rig - between 5 and 7 minutes.  I had already loosened the KREF3
 board and retrieved the lockwasher.  Mounted the SMA jack on the back panel,
 ran the cable, mounted the board  hardware per instructions, plugged in the
 cable and buttoned up the radio.  Total time just shy of 20 minutes, not
 counting the study time of the manual prior to beginning.  Another minute to
 set up the menu item and make sure it was working and still 20 minutes or
 less total time.  Well written instructions and very easy to install the
 board, even with my poor eyesight.

 The Trimble Thunderbolt has been running for a bit over a month now and a
 friend of mine gave me a real nice 3' long cable with SMA connectors on both
 ends that will match up perfectly.  -

 I did notice one anomaly.  Once the * symbol started flashing, moving away
 from the REF CAL left the 4th character from the left in the VFO B display
 window flashing for every entry in the CONFIG menu.  Once you exit MENU mode
 and re-enter it, the flashing stops until you again look at the REF CAL item
 at which time it starts flashing again.  This is only a minor bug, but I
 thought it should at least be called to the attention of the programmers.

 Jim - W0EB
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