Re: [Elecraft] Incredible noise tornado on 16om

2011-11-10 Thread Ken Chandler
It looks like what we suffer from in the uk on the ham frequencies, OTHR or 
over the horizon radar.
In eu, It pops up whenever and believe it emanates Asia or Cyprus.
But in your case in CA not sure on its absolute range!!

Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone 


 


On 10 Nov 2011, at 00:41, Mike WA8BXN hubb...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vic - 
 
 Does it drift around any? Do you still see it if you use a length of wire in
 your house for an antenna? If you go to a park and string up a similar
 length of wire, do you still see the same delay? Chances may be good its
 some electronic device(s) in your house or very near you. 
 
 73 - Mike 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---Original Message--- 
 
 From: Vic K2VCO 
 Date: 11/09/11 19:29:24 
 To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: [Elecraft] Incredible noise tornado on 16om 
 
 Has anyone ever seen anything like this? It seems to be there 24-7. 
 
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/160noise.JPG 
 
 Another view with a wider span: 
 
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/160noise1.JPG 
 
 -- 
 73, 
 Vic, K2VCO 
 Fresno CA 
 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco 
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Re: [Elecraft] Off Thread Warning

2011-11-10 Thread Thomas Horsten
Very suspicious behaviour listing the same item in two different formats
(Buy it now and auction) using two different eBay accounts. I'd stay away
from this seller unless he can come up with a good explanation.

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 10 November 2011 04:58, Merv Schweigert k...@flex.com wrote:

 Looking at Ebay just now and there are two new  K2 radios,
 both listed with the same serial number and both with almost
 identical descriptions.  Serial 6750 on both radios.

 Just FYI
 Listings are 290630747443  and  300620299703

 Either that or I cannot read and am senile.
 K9FD/KH6
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[Elecraft] Lulu discount

2011-11-10 Thread Mike
Someone asked about a discount for Fred's book. 20% off with VETRANS305.

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Bruce Meier

As I operate much more CW than SSB I need some advice and opinions from the
SSB contesters before adding additional filters for my K3s.  Currently I
only have the stock 2.7Khz filters in both K3s (main and sub rx) for SSB.  I
have 400hz and 250hz for CW.  If I wanted to add an additional roofing
filter for SSB contesting, would I add a 1.8Khz or would I add the 2.1Khz.  

73,
Bruce - N1LN

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Go the 1.8KHz filter bruce,
Forget the 2.1.

73 de
Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
East Innisfail
QLD, Australia
K3 #4257, P3#1629, KPA-500 #161
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bruce Meier 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:29 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB



  As I operate much more CW than SSB I need some advice and opinions from the
  SSB contesters before adding additional filters for my K3s.  Currently I
  only have the stock 2.7Khz filters in both K3s (main and sub rx) for SSB.  I
  have 400hz and 250hz for CW.  If I wanted to add an additional roofing
  filter for SSB contesting, would I add a 1.8Khz or would I add the 2.1Khz.  

  73,
  Bruce - N1LN

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken,

Yes, and no, I don't believe NaP3 does logging internally, but adding 
LP-Bridge to provide virtual serial ports (which emulate the K3 to the 
application)  can allow loggers, CW Skimmer, etc. to connect through a 
single physical serial port (NaP3 would also connect through 
LP-Bridge).  No difference in that respect than using other SDR 
applications such as PSDR-IF.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 11/10/2011 2:48 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:
 Don et al
 Don't think it's mentioned on the forum, but does any of the logging software 
 like wintest etc, interconnect freely with naP3 beta!!


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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed,

The I/Q outputs are baseband audio - just as would be the case with the 
output of LP-Pan, or a Sofrrock receiver, or most any SDR receiver.  The 
serial (or USB) port is only used when rig control is introduced in 
addition to the panadapter function.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/9/2011 12:31 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 Responding the message repeated, below.

 Planning on a KX3 and user of SDR sw I am interested in this topic,
 though I have no experience with SDR-IF, PSDR-IF, or HDSDR.  I have a
 SDR-IQ which interfaces using USB-2.0 and mainly run Spectravue with
 it (though I have run Linrad).  Also the K3+LPPan+emu0202 which uses
 USB-2.0, also.  These can also utilize software that support
 soundcard input (with proper drivers).

 My impression was that the KX3 IQ output was analog baseband and not
 converted to USB. (?).

 73, Ed - KL7UW

 Message: 16
 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:36:53 -0600
 From: Richard Fjeldrpfj...@embarqmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions
 To: elecraft postingelecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:A1A1511B47FF46F7A35DA9C84AFA1D5E@BIOSTAR
 Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=Windows-1252

 This is the new subject title, and needs some background, so it will
 be lengthy this time.

 Some of us use SDR-IF, and the new KX3 will use SDR-I/Q methods for
 connecting to a computer  running SDR software and seeing the results
 on a monitor. (The SDR-IF users must provide a SDR-IF receiver to
 bring out the I/Q leads. It is to be assumed that the SDR-IF receiver
 is functioning correctly.)  With both types,  I/Q leads are brought
 to a computer. (If you are wondering, I am on the list for a KX3)

 So the computer AND THE SOFTWARE are the center of attraction here.
 This is where great things may happen. (Emphasis on 'may')

 Some of us are at different experience levels, but I think we all
 would have, and still would, appreciate help to reach
 satisfaction.  The reflector is the place for this. The real question
 is; Should this be on a dedicated thread?  When I read the KX3 was
 going to be SDR capable, I wondered if Elecraft realized what it was
 getting into for the reflector?

 IMHO, The weak link in this SDR thing is the computer and software.
 PSDR-IF has great control features, but when I compare it to HDSDR,
 the latter does a great job of displaying the signals and is very
 sensitive. PSDR-IF looks at both directions in spectrum, so far, I
 can only get HDSDR to look upward in spectrum.

 We can't get rid of the mirrored images in PSDR-IF.  ('WE' includes a
 friend who still owns 3 of 6 Flex radios he has owned, and 2 of 4
 SDR-IF receivers. He is no beginner to SDR.)

 My thanks to all who responded. Can't take the space to recap
 everything, but Sebastian suggested mirrored images are due to ground
 loops. It has been long enough that I can't remember if I checked
 that, and I will.  However, why just PSDR-IF and not HDSDR that is
 affected?  A ground loop should affect both. Still, it is worth checking out.

 Basically, I'm disappointed with the software. I don't mind
 installing and setting some options for my type of equipment, but
 from there-on I expect it to function conveniently and nearly as well as a P3.

 The question for today is; have any Elecraft users achieved that goal
 with a computerized pan-adapter? And if so, with what software?  And
 if so, do you use a USB to Serial, or straight Serial?


 Thanks, from now on it will be shorter.

 Richard Fjeld, n0ce
 rpfj...@embarqmail.com
 I'd rather be learning.







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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Bill W4ZV
Bruce this is from a similar question on the Yahoo Groups K3 list:

-- In elecraft...@yahoogroups.com, Hector Padron ad4c2006@... wrote:

 The 1.8 roofer today with so much band noise and fool ops close to your
 freq disrespecting the spectrum, its a must.This 8 poles filter together
 with the DSP makes brick rx easy to work dx or contesting.The trick to
 recover the lost audio quality when using it is to move counterclockwise
 the shift control down to 1.2 and inteligibility is back.

This is very misleading and I must strongly disagree. I preface this by
saying
I made ~2500 QSOs on 10m single band in the CQ WW (high-claimed USA SOSB/10
score) and was never able to effectively use the 1.8k filter even though I
tried
in vain several times.

Here's what a 1.8k will and will not do:

1. It *WILL* keep your AGC from pumping if there's another strong station
within the 1.8 kHz passband. However, do you really think you could copy a
weak
signal while a S9+30 interfering signal is inside your 1.8k bandwidth? I
don't
think so. With any typical SSB filter bandwidth, AGC pumping is not a
practical
issue (it IS a big deal for CW however).

2. It *WILL *NOT* keep splatter from adjacent signals out of your passband.
If
an interfering signal is 5 kHz wide and partially falls within your
passband, NO
filter can remove it. Splatter is a real signal which NO filter (XTAL or
DSP)
can remove.

3. It *WILL* require very careful tuning for intelligibility. With callers
that are off frequency by only 100 Hz, you'll miss off-frequency callers the
first time which will slow your run rate. I had one caller even 500 Hz below
my
run frequency and I'm certain I would never have heard him if I was using
the
1.8k.

The most effective use of a 1.8k is probably for copying an extremely weak
DX
signal in white noise (not strong splatter or QRM). By tuning VERY
carefully,
you may slightly reduce the noise floor by reducing the noise bandwidth
(potential reduction of 1.8k BW versus 2.1k BW is 10*[log (1.8/2.1)] = -0.67
dB). I really doubt many of us can detect a 0.67 dB improvement in
signal/noise.

The 1.8k is mainly a DXing tool...not a contesting tool. It cannot magically
overcome the basic laws of physics.

73, Bill W4ZV

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[Elecraft] 160 Operation

2011-11-10 Thread Gary VK4FD
Just a reminder folks that VK4XQA will be operating from Euramo on November 18 
through 21 using the radio station 4KZ's brand new transmitting tower and an 
all Elecraft equipment line-up. (minus the KAT-500 due to tardy supply...Grin)

A special ONE OFF QSL card will be available.

Please visit VK4XQA on QRZ for more info and also: 
Further information on the XQA exhibit is here: 
http://treclub.org.au/index_htm_files/TREC%20NEWS%20June%202011%20Vol%204%20-%206.pdf
We will be on CW, SSB and some AM as well.
73
Gary


VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile
Elecraft Equipment
K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Bill W4ZV

Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 3. It *WILL* require very careful tuning for intelligibility. With callers
 that are off frequency by only 100 Hz, you'll miss off-frequency callers
 the
 first time which will slow your run rate. I had one caller even 500 Hz
 below my
 run frequency and I'm certain I would never have heard him if I was using
 the
 1.8k.
 

Just to qualify what I mean by high run rates:

-- Q S O   R a t e   S u m m a r y -
Hour 160 80 40 20 15 10Rate TotalPct

1200   0  0  0  0  01731732269.1
1300   0  0  0  0  0186186412   16.6
1400   0  0  0  0  0200200612   24.6
1500   0  0  0  0  0163163775   31.2
1600   0  0  0  0  0112112887   35.7

1200   0  0  0  0  0128128   1481   59.6
1300   0  0  0  0  0155155   1636   65.8
1400   0  0  0  0  0144144   1780   71.6
1500   0  0  0  0  0163163   1943   78.2
1600   0  0  0  0  0128128   2071   83.3
1700   0  0  0  0  0138138   2209   88.9

The best 60 minute rate was 217/hour from 1349 to 1448
The best 30 minute rate was 228/hour from 1358 to 1427
The best 10 minute rate was 246/hour from 1418 to 1427

The best 1 minute rates were:
 6 QSOs/minute7 times.
 5 QSOs/minute   32 times.
 4 QSOs/minute  122 times.
 3 QSOs/minute  238 times.
 2 QSOs/minute  328 times.
 1 QSOs/minute  425 times.

The 1.8k is a nice tool when working a weak DX station who is running the
pileup.  It is very poor if you're the one who is running and attempting to
work callers at high rates (i.e. getting the call correctly the first time
without repeats).  I'll be selling my 1.8k in favor of a 2.1k after my
recent experience.

73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] Lulu discount

2011-11-10 Thread Bill Hammond
Just adding the link to Mike's note for Fred's K3 manual:)

http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php?fListingClass=0fSearch=Elecraft+K3

Apply the discount code (Mike's note below) at checkout.

73,
Bill
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On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Mike wrote:

 Someone asked about a discount for Fred's book. 20% off with VETRANS305.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The 1.8 is where I would go.  Inrad also sells a 1.5 which a number of 
people swear by for really nasty SSB contests.

Mike W0MU

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J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
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On 11/10/2011 4:29 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:
 As I operate much more CW than SSB I need some advice and opinions from the
 SSB contesters before adding additional filters for my K3s.  Currently I
 only have the stock 2.7Khz filters in both K3s (main and sub rx) for SSB.  I
 have 400hz and 250hz for CW.  If I wanted to add an additional roofing
 filter for SSB contesting, would I add a 1.8Khz or would I add the 2.1Khz.

 73,
 Bruce - N1LN

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

I would not go any tighter than 1.8 KHz.  I have a pair of the 1.5 KHz
filters that I would swap for 1.8s.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/10/2011 10:11 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 The 1.8 is where I would go.  Inrad also sells a 1.5 which a number of
 people swear by for really nasty SSB contests.

 Mike W0MU

 J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
 J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
 W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


 On 11/10/2011 4:29 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:
 As I operate much more CW than SSB I need some advice and opinions from the
 SSB contesters before adding additional filters for my K3s.  Currently I
 only have the stock 2.7Khz filters in both K3s (main and sub rx) for SSB.  I
 have 400hz and 250hz for CW.  If I wanted to add an additional roofing
 filter for SSB contesting, would I add a 1.8Khz or would I add the 2.1Khz.

 73,
 Bruce - N1LN

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Re: [Elecraft] Incredible noise tornado on 16om

2011-11-10 Thread Willard Myers
The RFI that we are seeing is present all day, every day, at a consistent 
level. That suggests that the is local, not remote and arriving via “sky wave.” 
Vic is in California; I am in New England; we most certainly hearing different 
sources with a shared RF signature. I’m hoping that signature can help narrow 
the possibilities, if anyone recognizes it.

  Bill, K1GQ

On 2011.11.10, at 03:02, Ken Chandler wrote:

 It looks like what we suffer from in the uk on the ham frequencies, OTHR or 
 over the horizon radar.

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: P3 in Europe

2011-11-10 Thread Pete Connors F5VNB
P3 sold.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Barry N1EU

Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 1. It *WILL* keep your AGC from pumping if there's another strong station
 within the 1.8 kHz passband. However, do you really think you could copy a
 weak
 signal while a S9+30 interfering signal is inside your 1.8k bandwidth? I
 don't
 think so. With any typical SSB filter bandwidth, AGC pumping is not a
 practical
 issue (it IS a big deal for CW however).
 

Bill, I'm confused by that first sentence.  How can a signal within the
passband NOT pump the AGC?

Normally when AGC pumping is discussed, it's a negative reference to an
adjacent signal that's outside of the passband.

Barry N1EU

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[Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Steve Bunting
Hi Folks,

I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a 
softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have 
left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower 
to run my external soundcard.

I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune 
by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get 
Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the 
radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough 
offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally 
incorrect - can anyone help?

1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is 
correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not 
sure why.

2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so, 
by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This 
would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any 
other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from 
you - i have plenty to learn!

Thanks es 73
Steve
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Larry Phipps
Take a look at TRX-Pan, Tony. It does exactly that, is very well 
integrated with the K3, properly displays both main and sub passbands in 
all modes (including data sub-modes) and has a very nice uncluttered 
interface. It is very small code-wise, launches immediately and runs 
well even on netbooks. It is also very simple to install. It requires 
either LP-Bridge or TRX-Manager as the serial interface, but most SDR 
users would need LP-Bridge anyway. LP-Bridge is also small and normally 
runs in the background.

http://www.telepostinc.com/TRXP.html

Larry N8LP



On 11/10/2011 10:27 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Message: 26
 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 21:07:38 -0600
 From: Tony Estepestept...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions
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 On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Don Wilhelmw3...@embarqmail.com  wrote:
 ==
 Somewhere along the line there may be a third kind of SDR software:
 program that displays a nice panadapter and provides solid CAT control for
 2 VFOs, but nothing else. In other words, the routines devoted to signal
 processing, filtering, etc. would be left out, and those functions would be
 left to specialized computing functionality inside the radio, as is done
 with the KX3. It will be cool if the arrival of the KX3 provides the
 motivation for some brave soul (or group) to gut-rehab one of the
 open-source programs such as PSDR so that it fits this description.

 Benefits would include a much reduced CPU load and elimination of latency
 problems. The most important benefit, however, would be that cutting out
 the massive code bloat might make it possible for somebody to actually get
 a handle on the mysterious interdependencies and internal conflicts inside
 the code that cause bugs: disappearing config files, unexplained shutdowns,
 loss of functionality, etc. The traditional excuse for these phenomena is
 to blame the OS, the computer, or the user, but we all know better. The
 reality is that when you have a huge, open-ended project, with rubbery
 design specs, with many hands contributing independently, partly
 object-oriented and partly not, partly written in native code and partly in
 interpreted code, partly tested and partly not, you are going to have
 problems. A smaller piece of code with clear design objectives, unity of
 purpose, unity of design and coding standards, and clearly enunciated
 testing checkpoints, would be a really cool thing for the next generation
 of the ham station hardware/software combo.

 73, Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] Silly question about DVK3

2011-11-10 Thread Pat Cain , KØPC
Fred,

I'm not sure when this feature was added but you can send commands to the
radio with the message function keys. Open the CW/RTTY/SSB Memory Setup
window and select the Help button. The radio commands are sent when you use
%GAxx in the message. The xx refers to a command number you define in
writelog.ini.

An example will show what I'm doing. I have a CQ message stored in M1 on the
K3 and want to send it using F1. My F1 message in WriteLog is %GA11. Now I
need to define command #11 in writelog.ini. I added a line to the
[Elecraft_K3_commands] section that says:
Macro_11=SWT21;

You need to start at command number 11 or higher because 0 through 10 are
reserved. The SWT21; comes directly from the K3 Programmer's Reference.

I have defined five macros in writelog.ini so far, one for each of the M1-M4
buttons and one for the REC button to use as a way to kill a message being
sent. So my file looks like this:
[Elecraft_K3_commands]
Macro_11=SWT21;
Macro_12=SWT31;
Macro_13=SWT35;
Macro_14=SWT39;
Macro_19=SWT37;

The message for F9 is %GA19 and I reassign the ESC key to send Message 9 to
make it work like CW.

As others have said the ESC key is a bit of a kludge and could cause
problems if it is hit when a message is not playing. But the worst case is
you would have to hit it again to reset before hitting another message key.

I'm still trying to find a way to used both memory banks but so far no go.

73,
Pat  K0PC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread David Gilbert

I also have a pair of the 1.5 KHz filters, and while I find them to be 
desirable under certain DXing situations, I rarely use them in a 
contest.  In a contest you need quick intelligibility and filters as 
narrow as 1.5 KHz don't necessarily give you that.  I have a pretty good 
ear, but lots of human voices have enough energy in different parts of 
the audio spectrum that I find it sometimes necessary to either shift to 
a wider filter or change the shift on the 1.5 KHz filter (I typically 
use 1.1 KHz for the center with that filter) in order to copy the other 
guy's callsign or exchange.  Plus, as W4ZV pointed out, there is so much 
atrocious splatter from crummy rigs or ignorantly adjusted rigs during a 
major contest that it is truly rare to find such a narrow filter 
actually being helpful.   I also would trade my 1.5 KHz filters for a 
pair of 1.8 KHz filters in a heartbeat.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 11/10/2011 8:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 I would not go any tighter than 1.8 KHz.  I have a pair of the 1.5 KHz
 filters that I would swap for 1.8s.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


 On 11/10/2011 10:11 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 The 1.8 is where I would go.  Inrad also sells a 1.5 which a number of
 people swear by for really nasty SSB contests.

 Mike W0MU

 J6M CQ WW DX CW Contest 2011
 J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011
 W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


 On 11/10/2011 4:29 AM, Bruce Meier wrote:
 As I operate much more CW than SSB I need some advice and opinions from the
 SSB contesters before adding additional filters for my K3s.  Currently I
 only have the stock 2.7Khz filters in both K3s (main and sub rx) for SSB.  I
 have 400hz and 250hz for CW.  If I wanted to add an additional roofing
 filter for SSB contesting, would I add a 1.8Khz or would I add the 2.1Khz.

 73,
 Bruce - N1LN

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Re: [Elecraft] Silly question about DVK3

2011-11-10 Thread Pat Cain , KØPC
Thanks Ian, I hadn't spotted the RX; command but it is exactly what I needed.
I have changed my ESC key macro from SWT37; to RX;.

I am also trying to use both memory banks with a command like
SWH37;SWT21;SWH37;   i.e. REC(hold) = M1 = REC(hold)

My hope was to switch to bank 2 send the message and switch back to bank 1.
The second REC cancels the recording immediately and the DVR is left in bank
2. Any ideas on how to do this?

Thanks  73,
Pat  KØPC

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Larry Phipps n...@telepostinc.com wrote:

 Take a look at TRX-Pan, Tony


Thanks, Larry, I will certainly try it.

73,
Tony KT0NY

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Larry Phipps
Steve, you might want to look at the combo of LPB2 and NaP3. LPB2 allows 
sharing of the rig port with an SDR and up to 5 apps, like LP-Bridge 
does with K3. NaP3 is the latest iteration of Flex's open source 
PowerSDR, has some really neat features. A version of NaP3 is in 
pre-release which fully supports K2, with extensive support for offsets 
for all modes.

Larry N8LP



On 11/10/2011 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
 Message: 4
 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:06:11 +
 From: Steve Buntingstephen.bunt...@virgin.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Message-ID:4ebbf673.3090...@virgin.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Hi Folks,

 I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a
 softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have
 left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower
 to run my external soundcard.

 I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune
 by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get
 Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the
 radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough
 offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally
 incorrect - can anyone help?

 1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is
 correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not
 sure why.

 2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so,
 by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This
 would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

 If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any
 other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from
 you - i have plenty to learn!

 Thanks es 73
 Steve
 M0BPQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-11-10 Thread Martin Staffa
Why use Linkedln on this website and why are they sent over the reflecter
could they not be done offline Martin N1KGP

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Gary K9GS garyk...@wi.rr.com wrote:

 I own/moderate a couple of lists and this LinkedIn thing is a pain.  I
 just unsubscribe the offending user.

 That said, I'm an occasional LinkedIn user.  This is totally the fault
 of the user.  When you first sign up at LinkedIn, LinkedIn asks you if
 your want to upload your address book from your e-mail program.  If you
 blindly allow this to happen and have mail reflector addresses in your
 address book the below post to the mail list is what occurs.



 On 11/7/2011 10:58 AM, John Lemay wrote:
  My name is not Robert
 
  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Miller via
  LinkedIn
  Sent: 07 November 2011 16:43
  To: Robert johnson
  Subject: [Elecraft] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
 
  LinkedIn
  
 
 
 
 
   James Miller requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
 
  --
 
  Robert,
 
  I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
 
  - James
 
  Accept invitation from James  Miller
 
 http://www.linkedin.com/e/sn8jl7-gupp91f2-3e/vIZouyBzrLpSeNIbQZaoTwgkanZSTcI
 
 QqfdYZL/blk/I213372330_11/1BpC5vrmRLoRZcjkkZt5YCpnlOt3RApnhMpmdzgmhxrSNBszYN
 
 clYMcPcOdPcPcj99bRdUd5tbkRd3bPgSdPkMd3oOe3gLrCBxbOYWrSlI/EML_comm_afe/?hs=fa
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  View invitation from James  Miller
 
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  2neXQJUF4aTAY1
 
  --
 
  Why might connecting with James  Miller be a good idea?
 
  James  Miller's connections could be useful to you:
 
  After accepting James  Miller's invitation, check James  Miller's
  connections to see who else you may know and who you might want an
  introduction to. Building these connections can create opportunities in
 the
  future.
 

 --


 73,

 Gary K9GS

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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IQ and K2

2011-11-10 Thread Jack Smith
Steve:

1. 4898 KHz is the nearest to 4915 KHz cheap, off-the-shelf crystal that 
Tony (developer of Softrock) found. It has the advantage for anyone not 
using a high isolation buffer amp such as the Z1B, that the local 
oscillator leakage is outside the K2's crystal filter bandpass. This 
avoids hearing the Softrock local oscillator as a steady carrier in the K2.

2. Yes, the K2 shifts frequency with mode changes. You can measure your 
K2's shift by tuning a strong stable signal and working through the 
modes and observing the shift on the Softrock/software display.

Jack K8ZOA


On 11/10/2011 11:06 AM, Steve Bunting wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I have a Z1 buffer board in my K2 and have used it to drive a
 softrock as a panadapter for some time. It works just fine, but I have
 left this uncalibrated and my PC doesn't really have enough horsepower
 to run my external soundcard.

 I have been trying to reduce PC overhead and introduce click to tune
 by using an SDR-IQ instead. The system displays OK, but I cannot get
 Simon's SDR-Radio software to calibrate the panadapter to zero beat the
 radio RX. I know about the cal functions, but can't dial in enough
 offset for all modes. I suspect I am doing something fundamentally
 incorrect - can anyone help?

 1) I am using telling the SDR that the IF is 4.915MHz. I assume that is
 correct? I see that the soft rock radios are at 4.898MHz and I am not
 sure why.

 2) I assume the K2 offsets the frequency when modes are changed? If so,
 by how much on each mode? Does any mode have no offset at all? This
 would be the one I need to perform my initial calibration with.

 If any one has a K2 working with an SDR-IQ (either with SDR-radio or any
 other software that provides click to tune) I'd really like to hear from
 you - i have plenty to learn!

 Thanks es 73
 Steve
 M0BPQ
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Tony Estep

 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Larry Phipps n...@telepostinc.comwrote:

 Take a look at TRX-Pan, Tony


 Thanks, Larry, I will certainly try it.


=
This looks like a winner. It has a nice display of  both VFOs, mouse-click
tuning, and a few simple controls. It took me 15 minutes to download and
install the new LP-Bridge plus TRX-Pan and configure everything. Maybe
less. It's made to work with a K3, and it does. I should have tried it
sooner.

Thanks again, Larry, et surtout merci bien à Laurent, quelle merveilleuse
app!

73, Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

2011-11-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
It's spam - something accessing peoles email addresses and sending the request.
73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)

On 10 Nov 2011, at 17:33, Martin Staffa wrote:

 Why use Linkedln on this website and why are they sent over the reflecter
 could they not be done offline Martin N1KGP

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[Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Bill Thompson
My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes on, 
but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR messages.  I 
am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
Any suggestions?

Thanks, 

Bill  AA4MJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Shane DeSeranno
Run through the wattmeter and TX gain calibration steps and try again. I had 
this same problem.

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Thompson
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes 
on, but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR 
messages.  I am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Bill  AA4MJ
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[Elecraft] SMH readout slope

2011-11-10 Thread Brian Alsop
Guys,

SMH apparently has a 1db per unit slope to it.

Using a signal generator and attenuator it appears to have this slope 
over the 70 db range of my attenuator. S9+60 appears to have a value of 100.

Very useful for antenna pattern testing without the need for an attenuator.

I used K8LP's latest version of LP-Bridge to readout the SMH values.

73 DE Brian/K3KO


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Be sure you are NOT in TEST mode.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes
on, but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR
messages.  I am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
Any suggestions?

Thanks, 

Bill  AA4MJ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/10/2011 8:34 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
   there is so much
 atrocious splatter from crummy rigs or ignorantly adjusted rigs during a
 major contest

YES, YES, YES.

 that it is truly rare to find such a narrow filter
 actually being helpful.   I also would trade my 1.5 KHz filters for a
 pair of 1.8 KHz filters in a heartbeat.

I strongly agree. I have 1.8 kHz filters in my K3s, and find that I 
rarely use them during a contest for the reasons that W4ZV has 
articulated.  Paraphrasing from another world, it's the TRASH, stupid!

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Bill W4ZV

Barry N1EU wrote:
 
 
 Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 1. It *WILL* keep your AGC from pumping if there's another strong station
 within the 1.8 kHz passband. However, do you really think you could copy
 a weak
 signal while a S9+30 interfering signal is inside your 1.8k bandwidth? I
 don't
 think so. With any typical SSB filter bandwidth, AGC pumping is not a
 practical
 issue (it IS a big deal for CW however).
 
 
 Bill, I'm confused by that first sentence.  How can a signal within the
 passband NOT pump the AGC?
 
 Normally when AGC pumping is discussed, it's a negative reference to an
 adjacent signal that's outside of the passband.
 
 Barry N1EU
 

You're correct Barry.  I meant to say just outside your passband.  However,
given that most SSB signals generate 3rd garbage (spurs, phase noise, etc)
in the area of -35 dBc, an S9+30 signal just outside your 1.8k passband will
easily obliterate a weak signal inside the passband.

I found my ears to be the best tool for copying weak signals in the presence
of strong adjacent splatter.  For whatever reason they heard better using
the stock 5-pole 2.7k set to a DSP BW of 2.0-2.1k than the 8-pole 1.8k set
to actuate at DSP = 1.9k.  I tried many times to use the 1.8k but simply
just found the 2.7k worked better for me.  Of course that's just my
experience which wouldn't necessarily apply to everyone.

73,  Bill


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[Elecraft] K3 - LP-PAN EMU 0202 For Sale

2011-11-10 Thread GDanner
K3 LP-Pan (Kit-without pre-amp)  EMU 0202. Used for about a year or so.
Only cables included are power cable for LP-Pan and USB cable for EMU.
Price $175 for both includes shipping (CONUS only).

Contact George Danner ai...@arrl.net or 706-745-7475.

George
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Bill W4ZV

Bill Thompson wrote:
 
 My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes
 on, but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR
 messages.  I am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
 Any suggestions?
 

Have you accidentally enabled TEST mode (indicated by blinking TX on the LCD
display)?  

73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Vic K2VCO
This can also happen if TX INH is enabled in the menu and nothing is connected 
to the TX 
INH accessory input.

On 11/10/2011 11:34 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

 Bill Thompson wrote:

 My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes
 on, but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR
 messages.  I am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
 Any suggestions?


 Have you accidentally enabled TEST mode (indicated by blinking TX on the LCD
 display)?

 73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmitter

2011-11-10 Thread Joe K2UF


Have you tried power down/up ( the pc techs best friend ).  

What does your power output say when you rotate the PWR knob slightly?

Good luck

Joe K2UF
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Bill Thompson wrote:
 
 My K3 is not transmitting.  When I try to transmit, the red tx light comes
 on, but there is no forward or reflected power.  I do not have any ERR
 messages.  I am using the 2.8 MHZ filter for both transmit and receive.
 Any suggestions?
 

Have you accidentally enabled TEST mode (indicated by blinking TX on the LCD
display)?  

73,  Bill




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread David Gilbert


I've had exactly the same experience.  If the offending QRM is outside 
the passband of the filter, the narrower filter setting helps.  However, 
If the offending QRM is heavily inside the passband (i.e., splatter), it 
seems that the additional intelligibility gain by capturing more of the 
desired station's audio bandwidth can often more than offset the 
additional interference you get from using a wider bandwidth.  A lot 
depends upon the desired station's voice characteristics, but I've 
played with this quite a bit and the results can be surprising.

Splatter is the enemy of us all, except of course for the idiots who do 
it intentionally to give themselves elbow room.  One of these days I'm 
going to start posting spectral screenshots of significant offenders on 
my web site.

73,
Dave   AB7E




On 11/10/2011 12:21 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote:


 I found my ears to be the best tool for copying weak signals in the presence
 of strong adjacent splatter.  For whatever reason they heard better using
 the stock 5-pole 2.7k set to a DSP BW of 2.0-2.1k than the 8-pole 1.8k set
 to actuate at DSP = 1.9k.  I tried many times to use the 1.8k but simply
 just found the 2.7k worked better for me.  Of course that's just my
 experience which wouldn't necessarily apply to everyone.

 73,  Bill


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Barry N1EU

Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 However, given that most SSB signals generate 3rd garbage (spurs, phase
 noise, etc) in the area of -35 dBc, an S9+30 signal just outside your 1.8k
 passband will easily obliterate a weak signal inside the passband.
 
I agree.  Although I routinely use 1.8Khz roofing filters in ssb contests, I
doubt they help at all and are probably a waste of money.  

What does help to copy a weaker signal in the presence of splatter is to
turn AGC off.

Barry N1EU


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread riese-k3djc
happens outside of contests as well
I can get alongside of a SSB signal
and if it is clean have no problem
but the guys that feel increasing there bandwidth for a better/pleasant
sounding
signal creep me out,,, the K3 is the first rcv I can say this about
if the signal next door is clean regardless of strength it causes no
problems
looking forward to the KX3

Bob K3DJC

 
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:58:46 -0800 Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
writes:
 On 11/10/2011 8:34 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
there is so much
  atrocious splatter from crummy rigs or ignorantly adjusted rigs 
 during a
  major contest
 
 YES, YES, YES.
 
  that it is truly rare to find such a narrow filter
  actually being helpful.   I also would trade my 1.5 KHz filters 
 for a
  pair of 1.8 KHz filters in a heartbeat.
 
 I strongly agree. I have 1.8 kHz filters in my K3s, and find that I 
 
 rarely use them during a contest for the reasons that W4ZV has 
 articulated.  Paraphrasing from another world, it's the TRASH, 
 stupid!
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] FS: Alberto Frattini Pro Bug

2011-11-10 Thread Rick Dettinger
I am selling my Alberto Frattini Pro Bug that I have had for about 18  
months.  This bug has been little used and has been kept covered on my  
desk in a no smoking environment.  This is the all brass bug.   
Original cost was $580 including shipping, with a 90 day wait.  I will  
sell for $395 shipped to CONUS in the original shipping box with the  
Styrofoam protective blocks that came with the key.  The key is in  
like new condition, with no scratches or other marks.  The serial  
number is 0394.  The fingerpieces are the large red ones and the hex  
wrench is included to install them.  Paypal or money order please.   
Works great with K3!

Thanks,
Rick Dettinger
K7MW in La Conner,  WA.
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Re: [Elecraft] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn [END of related threads]

2011-11-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - Please do -not- post complaints, questions comments or othe 
replies to unwanted postings like the Linkedin requests or other spam 
that occasionally hit the list. Your replies dwarf the number of actual 
spam emails, causing -way- more list noise than needed.

Postings like this usually get through to the list when a spammer either 
spoofs a list member's address, or when a list subscriber legitimately 
joins Linkedin and by mistake gives it access to their address book for 
further invites. Linkedin is a legitimate professional social network (I 
even use it).

The Elecraft list server requires posters to be subscribed to the list 
as a primary posting filter. The qth.net server who hosts the list 
blocks a huge number of daily spams before they are even seen by us. We 
then manually review 50-100 more attempted spam postings daily.  (Its a 
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-really- fast ;-)

If we notice multiple unwanted posts, spam etc from a legitimate list 
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In any case, discussing it here is non-productive and outside of the 
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On 11/10/2011 9:44 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
 It's spam - something accessing peoles email addresses and sending the 
 request.
 73 de M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108, KX3 #???)

 On 10 Nov 2011, at 17:33, Martin Staffa wrote:

 Why use Linkedln on this website and why are they sent over the reflecter

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Re: [Elecraft] Lulu discount

2011-11-10 Thread Bill Hammond
Dang. good catchI have had one for a while too.  Fred did a great job.  I 
didn't know I needed it until I had it in my hands :)


On Nov 10, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Bill Hammond wrote:

 Just adding the link to Mike's note for Fred's K3 manual:)
 
 http://www.lulu.com/browse/search.php?fListingClass=0fSearch=Elecraft+K3
 
 Apply the discount code (Mike's note below) at checkout.
 
 73,
 Bill
 AK5X
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Mike wrote:
 
 Someone asked about a discount for Fred's book. 20% off with VETRANS305.
 
 73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Al Lorona
I'm glad this came up because it is an aspect of filtering that seldom is 
addressed.

Many folks seem to think that you can arbitrarily close down the bandwidth of a 
receiver to eliminate QRM and improve intelligibility. 


1.8 kHz is deemed better than 2.1 kHz, and 1.5 kHz is deemed better than both.

But at some point intelligibility itself suffers because you start to eliminate 
the signal you're trying to copy in the first place.

I for one suffer from a type of listener's fatigue when forced to copy SSB 
signals in anything less than about 2.2 kHz or so. 


Others folks suffer from hearing loss and need to hear as much of the voice 
frequencies as possible. 1.8 kHz just doesn't work for many of these folks.

If you're okay with such narrow bandwidths, more power to you, but you can't 
make blanket statements about them being equally effective for everybody.

As Bill, Dave, and Barry alluded to, the ear-brain filter is the most effective 
of all, and it would do us all good to exercise it more often. The more you use 
it, the better you get at it.



  Bill W4ZV wrote:
    3. It *WILL* require very careful tuning for intelligibility. 
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[Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Edward R. Cole
Don,

Not trying to be argumentative, but...

The SDR-IQ uses a USB-2.0 interface and not audio.  Some SDR actually 
provide A/D conversion inside the box with digital output 
streams.  The units you mentioned are audio-baseband.

The only issue would whether one needed a good soundcard or not.

I understand that many sw provide for radio control so need that 
access (whether via USB or RS232).  K3 being one of those that offer 
external control.  I wonder if the KX3 will have that ability, as well?

Very handy for the click frequency operations on sw like psk-31 
(variants).  The eme SDR sw (Linrad) that I am using has this ability 
(if proper drivers are available for the radio).

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Message: 37
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:42:12 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions
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Ed,

The I/Q outputs are baseband audio - just as would be the case with the
output of LP-Pan, or a Sofrrock receiver, or most any SDR receiver.  The
serial (or USB) port is only used when rig control is introduced in
addition to the panadapter function.

73,
Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread John Oppenheimer
Interesting to me is position today that 2.1 kHz is narrow. For many
decades, a 2.1 kHz filter was normal, and sometimes only SSB filter.

Heathkit SB-101 etc 350 - 2450 (center 1400)
Collins KWM-2A etc  400 - 2500 (center 1450)

Sometime during the 90s, or so, the standard seemed to move to 2.4 kHz
and up. What happened?

Because of my early experiences with a SB-101, I decided that the Heath
SSB BW settings were for me. Therefore I have a 2.1 kHz roofing filter
installed and set the BW to 350 - 2450 and stored into NORM1.

Which leads into a K3 issue. I believe that it would be a service to all
of us users if the K3 manual had a set of optimal center frequencies for
some of the pseudo standard settings optimized by those before us at
Heathkit, Collins, and others.

And it would be nice if the NORM button was programmable. I understand
that there are the NORM1 and NORM2 settings, but for me, simple NORM is
a wasted SSB button as I never use a 100 - 2900 Hz BW.

And it would be nice if there was a default SSB center for each of the
filters in Filter configuration. Tapping XFIL would not only move to the
next filter, but also set to it's optimal SSB filter center frequency.

John, KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed,

The SDR-IQ apparently uses the USB connection for both audio stream and 
rig control, but the KX3 does not.
The I/Q output of the KX3 is baseband audio, which would need to be fed 
to a soundcard.  The rig control is separate and will communicate with 
the KX3 through the RS-232 serial connection, so if you don't have a 
real serial port, you will need a USB to serial adapter to achieve that 
connection.

BTW - there seems to be nothing universal about the Universal Serial 
Bus - each device version seems to be different requiring its own 
driver.  OTOH, the basic RS-232 port has always been universal - it 
just works because there are no bells and whistles (but that is 
getting a bit off-topic, thanks for listening to my rant).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/10/2011 5:28 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 Don,

 Not trying to be argumentative, but...

 The SDR-IQ uses a USB-2.0 interface and not audio.  Some SDR actually
 provide A/D conversion inside the box with digital output
 streams.  The units you mentioned are audio-baseband.

 The only issue would whether one needed a good soundcard or not.

 I understand that many sw provide for radio control so need that
 access (whether via USB or RS232).  K3 being one of those that offer
 external control.  I wonder if the KX3 will have that ability, as well?

 Very handy for the click frequency operations on sw like psk-31
 (variants).  The eme SDR sw (Linrad) that I am using has this ability
 (if proper drivers are available for the radio).


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[Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Edward R. Cole
Just my (unsolicted) two-cents comment:

I find using below 2.1 KHz (with the DSP filter) distorts SSB too 
much for me.  I have only the 2.8 and 0.400 KHz filters at this 
time.  If I were to buy another it would be 2.1.  Folks should factor 
in that I am 67 and have extreme hearing loss so your experience my 
vary (I have to use captioning on TV).  (hint) Before purchasing a 
roofing filter check out using the DSP filter to decide which bw is 
best for you.

I am only a casual user of HF so intense high-density contesting or 
DXing is not my forte.  Operating a little in FD gives me enough of a 
taste and the K3 is a real joy to use under tough 
conditions.  Mostly, I am copying extreme-weak signals (VHF+) where 
narrowing bw makes the difference (typ 2.1 for SSB and 100-200 Hz for 
CW).  But I start at 2.8-KHz when searching for weak CW, then switch 
to 400-Hz filter and use the DSP filter to improve readability 
(signals below noise) once I found a signal.

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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:27:05 -0500
From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 4ebbed49.4030...@subich.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed


I would not go any tighter than 1.8 KHz.  I have a pair of the 1.5 KHz
filters that I would swap for 1.8s.

73,

 ... Joe, W4TV



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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread Bruce Beford
Ed, 
Don's comments about a serial port being unnecessary was with respect to the
KX3 specifically, not the SDR-IQ. The KX3 will provide baseband audio
output, which will need to be fed into the stereo input of a soundcard on a
computer for panadapter capability. Think of it as having an LP-Pan built
in. 

If one wants point and shoot functions from the panadapter software, then
a USB/serial control port back to the KX3 will be needed. And yes, the KX3
will have that capability as it has already been announced that the KX3 will
use a subset of the K3 command structure. (there is a serial port on the
KX3). 

Also, a USB interface device for the KX3 is also in the plans from Elecraft.
It will connect to a USB port on the computer, and have the required
connector on the other end to plug directly into the radio. I hope this
helps clear up any possible confusion.

73,
Bruce, N1RX

(original message)

Don,

Not trying to be argumentative, but...

The SDR-IQ uses a USB-2.0 interface and not audio.  Some SDR actually 
provide A/D conversion inside the box with digital output 
streams.  The units you mentioned are audio-baseband.

The only issue would whether one needed a good soundcard or not.

I understand that many sw provide for radio control so need that 
access (whether via USB or RS232).  K3 being one of those that offer 
external control.  I wonder if the KX3 will have that ability, as well?

Very handy for the click frequency operations on sw like psk-31 
(variants).  The eme SDR sw (Linrad) that I am using has this ability 
(if proper drivers are available for the radio).

--

Message: 37
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:42:12 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm w3fpr at embarqmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 4EBBC6A4.4020700 at embarqmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ed,

The I/Q outputs are baseband audio - just as would be the case with the
output of LP-Pan, or a Sofrrock receiver, or most any SDR receiver.  The
serial (or USB) port is only used when rig control is introduced in
addition to the panadapter function.

73,
Don W3FPR





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Duncan Carter
On 11/10/2011 3:33 PM, John Oppenheimer wrote:
 I use a 1200 Hz center frequency with my 1800 Hz roofing filter.  It gives 
 roughly the same passband as my ancient FT-101E with a cascaded pair of 
 Yaesu filters, one in the normal receive line and the second in the speech 
 clipper.

 Dunc, W5DC
 Which leads into a K3 issue. I believe that it would be a service to all
 of us users if the K3 manual had a set of optimal center frequencies for
 some of the pseudo standard settings optimized by those before us at
 Heathkit, Collins, and others.

 And it would be nice if the NORM button was programmable. I understand
 that there are the NORM1 and NORM2 settings, but for me, simple NORM is
 a wasted SSB button as I never use a 100 - 2900 Hz BW.

 And it would be nice if there was a default SSB center for each of the
 filters in Filter configuration. Tapping XFIL would not only move to the
 next filter, but also set to it's optimal SSB filter center frequency.

 John, KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Al Lorona wrote:

1.8 kHz is deemed better than 2.1 kHz, and 1.5 kHz is deemed better 
than both.

But at some point intelligibility itself suffers because you start to 
eliminate the signal you're trying to copy in the first place.

I for one suffer from a type of listener's fatigue when forced to copy 
SSB signals in anything less than about 2.2 kHz or so.

Others folks suffer from hearing loss and need to hear as much of 
the voice frequencies as possible. 1.8 kHz just doesn't work for many 
of these folks.


Here's some more individual data.

Although my hearing cuts off sharply at about 2.5kHz, I love the 1.8kHz 
crystal filter for heavy QRM. That Inrad filter was originally purchased 
for the 'narrow SSB' slot of my old FT-1000MP, and  I'm so glad that I 
kept it for the K3.

The 1.8kHz filter also works very well for my wife and other guest 
operators who don't have hearing loss.  In our typical contest QRM 
conditions (running W/VE with the whole of Continental Europe right 
behind us) the narrower filter helps to eliminate the high-pitched 
splatter which we find the most tiring.

Unlike a 1.8kHz DSP filter with a 2.5kHz roofing filter, the 1.8kHz 
crystal filter also avoids artefacts caused by pumping of the hardware 
AGC loop by strong signals in the gaps between the wider and the 
narrower passband.

The 1.8kHz filter does require careful initial setting of the center 
frequency to obtain the best possible intelligibility; but those 
settings will then require very little further adjustment. In other 
words, they make a very effective working compromise to maximize the QSO 
rate.

The 1.8kHz crystal filter is switched in at a DSP setting of 1.9kHz to 
avoid excessive narrowing of the passband. I would certainly agree that 
1.5kHz is too narrow, because almost every voice would then require its 
own critical tuning.

If you're okay with such narrow bandwidths, more power to you, but you 
can't make blanket statements about them being equally effective for 
everybody.

But neither can anyone else make blanket statements about them being 
INeffective.

The fairest that anyone can say is, If you don't like the 1.8kHz DSP 
setting, then don't even think about buying the crystal filter. But if 
you do like 1.8kHz DSP, you might like the crystal filter a lot.


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[Elecraft] CM500 Mic

2011-11-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I just got a pair of the CM500's and they work pretty good.

My mic setting is on 3 to keep from over driving the alc on the radio.  
Is this normal for this mic.  I have Low Z selected and Bias.  My Heil 
elements the mic gain is much higher.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Jim Brown wrote:
On 11/10/2011 8:34 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
   there is so much
 atrocious splatter from crummy rigs or ignorantly adjusted rigs during a
 major contest

YES, YES, YES.

 that it is truly rare to find such a narrow filter
 actually being helpful.   I also would trade my 1.5 KHz filters for a
 pair of 1.8 KHz filters in a heartbeat.

I strongly agree. I have 1.8 kHz filters in my K3s, and find that I
rarely use them during a contest for the reasons that W4ZV has
articulated.  Paraphrasing from another world, it's the TRASH, stupid!

Forgive me, Jim, but claiming that it's only about one single thing will 
always lead to bad advice. One-line slogans don't even work in politics, 
and even less so in engineering.

Whatever the problem, it's ALWAYS about finding the optimum working 
balance between several different aspects.

In this particular case we are trying maximize the QSO rate by finding 
the best possible balance between intelligibility, minimum use of front 
panel controls, longer-term operator fatigue and probably several other 
factors that will be of genuine importance to some people, at least some 
of the time.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filter question - SSB

2011-11-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - We are now hitting the single subject posting limit. Please wrap 
this thread up ASAP.

73, Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] CM500 Mic

2011-11-10 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/10/2011 3:42 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 I just got a pair of the CM500's and they work pretty good.

 My mic setting is on 3 to keep from over driving the alc on the radio.
 Is this normal for this mic.  I have Low Z selected and Bias.  My Heil
 elements the mic gain is much higher.

Yes, it is pretty normal, because the mic in the CM500 is a pretty hot 
mic (that is, high output).  By all means, follow the standard setup 
instructions in the manual. One thing you MIGHT want to change is TXEQ.  
For virtually all voices, the two lowest bands should be down all the 
way, and for most voices, the third band should be down between 6dB and 
all the way.  The rest of the bands should usually be set flat, except 
that those with very muddy voices may want to boost the top band 3-6 
dB.  I usually run compression so that I consistently see about 10dB 
compression on peaks (on the K3 display).

The best way to get a final setting on TXEQ, mic gain, and compression, 
is to have someone listen to you on a K3 with their IF bandwidth set to 
at least 2.7 kHz.  What they should hear is good clean audio, but with 
very little low end (bass).

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta 4.42 and LP Bridge

2011-11-10 Thread ai6ii
Okay, LP-Bridge v09.994 and K3 v4r47 does the trick. All very stable now.
Thanks Larry and Wayne and the others who helped.

73  ..mike AI6II

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[Elecraft] CocoaModem

2011-11-10 Thread Mike
Trying to get RTTY/PSK set up and having a hard time with CocoaModem. The K3 
line out 
is NOR 10. Increasing it doesn't seem to do anything. I'm using an iMic. I've 
selected that in CM, and the volume is set about 3/4 full scale. I've tried the 
iMic 
set to both line and mic, no difference.

CM is printing garbage. The tuning aid/waterfall show nothing. No transmit.

Anybody see anything I need to change or set?

73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] Click or Pop Sound Using Diversity Receive

2011-11-10 Thread Toby Pennington
I am using diversity receive on CW and notice a pop or click  (sounds like a 
relay ) after sending a word (semi bk-in ).  This does not occur with the AUX 
ANT disengaged as I am no longer using the second antenna. 

My rig is set up to use the second receiver antenna attached to ant port #2 
instead of the BNC arrangement for AUX receive.  When I bought this rig used it 
was set up that way.  

I wonder if this may have something to do with it? 

Any ideas? 

Toby  W4CAK

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Re: [Elecraft] CocoaModem

2011-11-10 Thread Rick Prather
Mike,

Have you adjusted he volume levels in System Preferences  Sound  ?

Rick
K6LE

On 11/10/2011, at 5:34 , Mike wrote:

 Trying to get RTTY/PSK set up and having a hard time with CocoaModem. The K3 
 line out 
 is NOR 10. Increasing it doesn't seem to do anything. I'm using an iMic. I've 
 selected that in CM, and the volume is set about 3/4 full scale. I've tried 
 the iMic 
 set to both line and mic, no difference.
 
 CM is printing garbage. The tuning aid/waterfall show nothing. No transmit.
 
 Anybody see anything I need to change or set?
 
 73, Mike NF4L
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Re: [Elecraft] CocoaModem

2011-11-10 Thread Mike
Hi Rick -

I think so. The output and input tabs have the slider almost full scale. The 
Use 
audio port for is set to output on the output tab and on the input tab it's 
set to 
input. I'm running Lion.

Mike

On 11/10/2011 8:44 PM, Rick Prather wrote:
 Mike,

 Have you adjusted he volume levels in System Preferences  Sound  ?

 Rick
 K6LE

 On 11/10/2011, at 5:34 , Mike wrote:

 Trying to get RTTY/PSK set up and having a hard time with CocoaModem. The K3 
 line out
 is NOR 10. Increasing it doesn't seem to do anything. I'm using an iMic. I've
 selected that in CM, and the volume is set about 3/4 full scale. I've tried 
 the iMic
 set to both line and mic, no difference.

 CM is printing garbage. The tuning aid/waterfall show nothing. No transmit.

 Anybody see anything I need to change or set?

 73, Mike NF4L
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[Elecraft] [OT] The Big List

2011-11-10 Thread Phil Hystad
Well, I started following this list in October 2009.  Bought my K3 at the end 
of December 2009 and go through all the messages (albeit some quite quickly) 
almost every day.  I decided to archive all my messages that I keep in my 
Elecraft mail folder and I was surprised to see that I was archiving over 
38,000 messages!  Now, the actual message count is more then that since I have 
deleted some, and I don't know how many, but still that is a lot of messages.

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR-IF and I/Q questions

2011-11-10 Thread riese-k3djc

was hoping that the KX3 may end up as a kinda Flex Lite
with access via a program or as a portable field unit
Ohhh its so good !



Bob


On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:43:22 -0500 Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
writes:
 Ed,
 
 The SDR-IQ apparently uses the USB connection for both audio stream 
 and 
 rig control, but the KX3 does not.
 The I/Q output of the KX3 is baseband audio, which would need to be 
 fed 
 to a soundcard.  The rig control is separate and will communicate 
 with 
 the KX3 through the RS-232 serial connection, so if you don't have a 
 
 real serial port, you will need a USB to serial adapter to achieve 
 that 
 connection.
 
 BTW - there seems to be nothing universal about the Universal 
 Serial 
 Bus - each device version seems to be different requiring its own 
 driver.  OTOH, the basic RS-232 port has always been universal - 
 it 
 just works because there are no bells and whistles (but that is 
 getting a bit off-topic, thanks for listening to my rant).
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 11/10/2011 5:28 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
  Don,
 
  Not trying to be argumentative, but...
 
  The SDR-IQ uses a USB-2.0 interface and not audio.  Some SDR 
 actually
  provide A/D conversion inside the box with digital output
  streams.  The units you mentioned are audio-baseband.
 
  The only issue would whether one needed a good soundcard or not.
 
  I understand that many sw provide for radio control so need that
  access (whether via USB or RS232).  K3 being one of those that 
 offer
  external control.  I wonder if the KX3 will have that ability, as 
 well?
 
  Very handy for the click frequency operations on sw like psk-31
  (variants).  The eme SDR sw (Linrad) that I am using has this 
 ability
  (if proper drivers are available for the radio).
 
 
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