[Elecraft] K1 in QRP TTF video

2012-05-20 Thread Rem .
Hi,

I've just uploaded a video where Bill, KF6RMK and myself are operating in
the QRP TTF event.
Bill is uisng a K1 in it and it is a scenic location too.
http://youtu.be/OBeDa-BM88o

73
Rem
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 in QRP TTF video

2012-05-20 Thread David Cutter
Nice video and loadsa fun with your QRP set-up inspires me to do more 
outdoor stuff, if only it would stop raining here!

73

David
G3UNA

On 20/05/2012 07:02, Rem . wrote:
 Hi,

 I've just uploaded a video where Bill, KF6RMK and myself are operating in
 the QRP TTF event.
 Bill is uisng a K1 in it and it is a scenic location too.
 http://youtu.be/OBeDa-BM88o

 73
 Rem
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[Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Ussvdharma
how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting out 
of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread John Ragle
I don't favor this suggestion at all. As long as people are somewhat 
careful about the content of the subject line, there is no problem (as 
far as I can see). When a particular thread becomes tedious (vide KX3, 
delivery times, etc.) it is straightforward enough to simply bypass 
these automatically to the trash. A multiplicity of lists would entail 
dredging each one for tailings of interest...

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 5/20/2012 6:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Gary Gregory
*Filters even on gmail work to reduce the load..:-)

Separate reflectors would self defeating for Elecraft as they monitor and
respond to two already and to make more would increase their workload to a
point many posts would not see a reply perhaps?

Gary
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On 20 May 2012 20:03, Ussvdharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com wrote:

 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is
 getting out of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
This gets brought up from time to time by those who want everything in the
mail list to be only something they want to read.  For those who really
want to do that, every mail program, including major web mail clients like
Google's, has a sorting mechanism to put things in different folders, or
toss them out just like you want it.  Or in a minute's time you can mark a
hundred message for delete.  Tired of hearing about KPA500 and KAT500, just
set your client to delete them based on subject or content.  In Google's
Gmail web client, these are ridiculously easy to set up.

73, Guy

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 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is
 getting out of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
Did'nt we all agree somewhere in the very past to start our device 
specific messages with that specific device in the subject directly 
after the [Elecraft] signature?

I have created filters in Thunderbird that routes all [Elecraft] mail to 
an Elecraft folder and all device specific to a subfolder with that 
device specific name.

Unfortunately not everbody seems to understand or forgot about this 
simple rule...

Do we really need to create a howto? It isn't rocket science...

73,
Peter PA0PJE

Op 20-05-12 12:03, Ussvdharma schreef:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] Kaf2 anti ringing mod by KI6WX

2012-05-20 Thread Bill W4ZV

William Schmidt wrote
 
 I have seen mention of an anti ringing modification for the kaf2 that was
 published several years ago by ki6wx.
 Has anyone done this mod or know where I can find the details?  The link
 often mentioned no longer works.
 
 Thanks,
 Bill WV1N
 

I just searched for this myself and also found the pacbell link from KI6WX
broken.  However I used the WayBack Machine to find an archived copy here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030329174521/http://home.pacbell.net/johngreb/kaf2_filter_modifications.pdf

If this does not work for you, email me and I'll send a copy directly.

73,  Bill  W4ZV


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[Elecraft] how to filter elecraft message (was: Re: reflectors.)

2012-05-20 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci

The howto is actually a good idea. 

Please contribute your way to accomplish filtering using gmail,
thunderbird, outlook and whatever else you have set up. 
If you reply with your contribution to this mail, it should be easily
searchable in the mailing list archives. Maybe Eric could also collect
the suggestions and post them on the Elecraft website.


Here's my contribution for filtering using old style procmail and an
IMAP server:

--- cut here 

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ]KPA-?500
.radio.elecraft.KPA500/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ](K3|K144XV)
.radio.elecraft.K3/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ](KX3|KXPA100)
.radio.elecraft.KX3/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ]P3
.radio.elecraft.P3/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ]K2
.radio.elecraft.K2/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
* $^Subject:.*[\[ ](K-?1|KX-?1)
.radio.elecraft.K1-KX1/

:0:
* $ LISTID ?? .*elecraft\\.mailman\\.qth\\.net
.radio.elecraft/

 end 




Pf



 Peter == Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) pa0...@xs4all.nl writes:


Peter Did'nt we all agree somewhere in the very past to start our device 
Peter specific messages with that specific device in the subject directly 
Peter after the [Elecraft] signature?

Peter I have created filters in Thunderbird that routes all [Elecraft] 
mail to 
Peter an Elecraft folder and all device specific to a subfolder with that 
Peter device specific name.

Peter Unfortunately not everbody seems to understand or forgot about this 
Peter simple rule...

Peter Do we really need to create a howto? It isn't rocket science...

Peter 73,
Peter Peter PA0PJE

Peter Op 20-05-12 12:03, Ussvdharma schreef:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is 
getting out of control in length
 
 
 If you don't change direction you'll arrive where you're headed!Sent 
from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Kevin
You are correct.
It's a list rule that gets ignored by the lazy among us.
I have my Thunderbird filters setup just like you do. It works 
beautifully om properly formated emails.

Maybe we can get Eric to tweak the mail serve software to automatically 
dump any email without a properly formated subject line.


On 05/20/2012 06:28 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
 Did'nt we all agree somewhere in the very past to start our device
 specific messages with that specific device in the subject directly
 after the [Elecraft] signature?

 I have created filters in Thunderbird that routes all [Elecraft] mail to
 an Elecraft folder and all device specific to a subfolder with that
 device specific name.

 Unfortunately not everbody seems to understand or forgot about this
 simple rule...

 Do we really need to create a howto? It isn't rocket science...

 73,
 Peter PA0PJE



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Dayton New Equipment Show

2012-05-20 Thread Bill W4ZV
These were my questions Friday based on the published data sheet:

Questions for someone at Flex's Dayton booth:

Except for the most demanding large signal conditions, Slice
Receivers are free to operate in wide-band mode without the need
for RF pre-selection filters.

1.  What does most demanding mean?

Further, the
dual Spectral Capture Units can be optimally combined on the
FLEX-6700 and FLEX-6700R to increase Blocking Dynamic Range
up to 3 dB and IMD DR3 up to 2 dB.

2.  Increase BDR 3 dB better than what?  (nothing spec'd on Data Sheet)

http://www.eham.net/ehamforum/smf/index.php/topic,82993.30.html

No answers yet...

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
Hi Kevin,

Well, no need I think.
Anyone that understands filtering can create filters that simply dump 
anything out of scope on a list. Apart from that, selecting a set of 
mails and delete the selection is also not much work once you have all 
wanted filtering in place.

73,
Peter PA0PJE

Op 20-05-12 13:58, Kevin schreef:
 You are correct.
 It's a list rule that gets ignored by the lazy among us.
 I have my Thunderbird filters setup just like you do. It works
 beautifully om properly formated emails.

 Maybe we can get Eric to tweak the mail serve software to automatically
 dump any email without a properly formated subject line.


 On 05/20/2012 06:28 AM, Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) wrote:
 Did'nt we all agree somewhere in the very past to start our device
 specific messages with that specific device in the subject directly
 after the [Elecraft] signature?

 I have created filters in Thunderbird that routes all [Elecraft] mail to
 an Elecraft folder and all device specific to a subfolder with that
 device specific name.

 Unfortunately not everbody seems to understand or forgot about this
 simple rule...

 Do we really need to create a howto? It isn't rocket science...

 73,
 Peter PA0PJE



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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
Nope, I like them all in one reflector. Would love that the KX3 traffic 
move back here. 73, tom n4zpt

On 5/20/2012 6:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Hystad
So, you want a separate reflector for each Elecraft product.  That would be K1, 
K2, K3, P3, KPA500, KX1, KX3, KAT500, and then there are the myriad other 
little products too.  And, the list keeps growing (hopefully).

And, what if I have a question regarding the K3 and the P3 -- would I post to 
two reflectors?  

I don't think this suggestion has much merit.  I use filters to divide and 
conquer this list and besides that, I can easily create dynamic sub-lists if I 
ever want to search for something particular, such as KX1.  My computer, Apple 
Macbook Pro, using Apple Mac mail which is the default mail handler for Mac 
systems.

73, phil, K7PEH


On May 20, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:

 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Dayton New Equipment Show

2012-05-20 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
It will be interesting to hear if the Flex 6000/6700 when used in Europe can 
deal with the European 40m BC stations.

Some data.

Over a period of several months when I was in Scotland, I measured the level 
of these 40m BC signals with which a receiver must cope.  Using a 40m dipole 
at 70ft AGL firing N-S, not a beam, the level of the -carrier- of most of 
the European 40m BC stations at the shack end of the feeder would reach + 5 
to +10 dbm under normal conditions of propagation.

And there were many BC signals of similar strength on air at the same 
time.

In this part of Europe the 40m BC signals are not as strong, probably due to 
being closer to the BC transmitters, which could benefit Flex's sales in 
Europe.

73,
Geoff
LX2AO

On May 20, 2012 at  2:46 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

snip

 However, when one has five or six -33 dBm local signals (easy
 on 160 or 80 meters during a major contest ... or 40 meters in
 Europe with the superpower broadcasters just outside the band)
 the required signal handling is many orders of magnitude higher
 than just two -23 dBm (S9+60 dB) signals.  Instantaneous peak
 voltages do not add linearly ... they add exponentially.

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[Elecraft] FS older heil headset/mic for K2

2012-05-20 Thread Ivin Flint
I would like to sell a Heil headphones with mic model HL-4.  It came with the 
K2 I bought but I prefer a hand mic.  It shows some wear but works fine and 
includes the Kenwood adapter for the mic pin out.  asking $75.00 plus $5 
shipping anywhere in U.S.  shipping USPS.  Please respond direct. 

Ivin W9ILF
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[Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Hystad
I am sitting here on the couch in the shack with my Mac laptop in my lap and I 
realize that all my rigs up on the desk are all black.  Vendors include 
Elecraft, Icom, and Yaesu and they are all black.  And, they are all the same 
shade of black.  Even my Astron power supplies, my Palstar dummy load, my 
Palstar tuner, my LP100A, my COMSpkrs are black.

Actually, the only non black thing up there on my desk is my Begali Magnetic 
Classic paddle.  It is gold looking.

I have this photo of my shack when I was in high school and very little in that 
photo is black (at least from the photos perspective).  The receiver, an 
HQ-170AC, was sort of a gray blue color, the transmitter, an Eico 720 has a 
very shiny aluminum front with meter and black knobs (although the case is 
black it is not seen in the photo).  I have some miscellaneous Heathkit stuff 
which sports the non-black Heathkit colors.  In this photo from 50 years ago, 
very little is black.

OK, not much technical for Elecraft questions but now I am really curious about 
this.  So, my question posted here on Sunday morning while I wait for the 
oatmeal to be ready.

73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] weak RX in K144XV internal transverter - experience sharing

2012-05-20 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello group,
 
I have recently noticed a serious degrade in RX sensitivity in 2m.  The TX 
power of the K144XV is ok.  After some checking, I notice that the centre pin 
of the IF out connector for the TMP cable on the K144XV PCB was broken.  
Re-soldering the broken pin solved the problem.  This may be caused by cable 
movements in disconnecting the K144xv module for filter installation etc etc.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] KX-1 SOLD

2012-05-20 Thread Bob
Thanks all who replied.
72 Bob w7wo

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
It would be very helpful if people could remember to put   K1:  K2: K3: 
P3: KPA500  etc at the front of the post.  I am as guilty as anyone 
about forgetting this.

Mike W0MU

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Http://www.w0mu.com


On 5/20/2012 8:12 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 So, you want a separate reflector for each Elecraft product.  That would be 
 K1, K2, K3, P3, KPA500, KX1, KX3, KAT500, and then there are the myriad other 
 little products too.  And, the list keeps growing (hopefully).

 And, what if I have a question regarding the K3 and the P3 -- would I post to 
 two reflectors?

 I don't think this suggestion has much merit.  I use filters to divide and 
 conquer this list and besides that, I can easily create dynamic sub-lists if 
 I ever want to search for something particular, such as KX1.  My computer, 
 Apple Macbook Pro, using Apple Mac mail which is the default mail handler for 
 Mac systems.

 73, phil, K7PEH


 On May 20, 2012, at 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:

 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Bill
For years many were light grey. Yaesu even had an elegant looking almost 
white rig. TenTec was tan. Of coure Heath was green. My only thought 
would be that the black rigs represent something heavier - military 
tough - official looking.

Black also shows dust more readily - FWTW.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF

2012-05-20 Thread Lu Romero
I agree, in more ways than one, that we are talking apples
and oranges here.  The code between the devices has similar
applications, but a Sabine Feedback Destroyer has multiple
instances operating in a dedicated processor with nothing
else to do but find the carriers while the K3 ANF is
sharing its runtime with lots of other priorities.

Another issue is that the ANF cannot remove the audio
covered up by the interfering carrier, NOTHING can do this. 
All ANF can do is throw a notch over the interfering
frequency... That is what it does, it cant actually REMOVE
the coherent interferance from the incoherent
intelligence.

I was just at the NAB show where I saw a demonstration of a
technology that does extract the underlying audio, which was
truly magic. Also saw a demo of a video editing system
(Adobe Premiere) that has a similar feature built in. Lots
of non real time processing is needed to do this magic,
however. 

If the ANF can be made better, great.  I find it acceptable.
 Not perfect, but acceptable.  If making it better doubles
the price of the radio, then Im not for it, for what its
worth :)

-lu-w4lt-



Message: 24
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 16:50:24 -0500
From: W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - RX audio degradation with ANF
To: Bill b...@w2blc.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:
74bdcaf3-fca6-44df-a0e5-21728e101...@bellsouth.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I think we may be comparing apples to oranges here.

In the K3 digital ANF, the notch filter is looking for
coherent signals. The premise
is that audio is less coherent than a CW carrier.  Thus the
ANF finds the
coherent CW carrier and notches it out,  leaving the
remaining audio.



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 97, Issue 40

2012-05-20 Thread travis_townsend
thanks john! proof positive at least somebody felt good this morning. tricky 
shot! them iphones do good.
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4. reflectors (Ussvdharma)
5. Re: reflectors (John Ragle)
6. Re: reflectors (Gary Gregory)
7. Re: reflectors (Guy Olinger K2AV)
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9. Re: Kaf2 anti ringing mod by KI6WX (Bill W4ZV)
   10. how to filter elecraft message (was: Re:  reflectors.)
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   11. Re: reflectors (Kevin)
   12. Re: OT: Dayton New Equipment Show (Bill W4ZV)
   13. Re: reflectors (Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE))
   14. Re: reflectors (Tom Azlin N4ZPT)
   15. Re: reflectors (Phil Hystad)
   16. Re: OT: Dayton New Equipment Show (Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy)
   17. FS older heil headset/mic for K2 (Ivin Flint)
   18. [OT] Rig Colors (Phil Hystad)
   19. weak RX in K144XV internal transverter - experience sharing
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   20. KX-1 SOLD (Bob)
   21. Re: reflectors (W0MU Mike Fatchett)
   22. Re: [OT] Rig Colors (Bill)
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 22:02:11 -0700
 From: Rick Bates happymooseph...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 / KAT500 remote
 To: 'Gary Gregory' garyvk...@gmail.com,   'hawley, charles j jr'
   c-haw...@illinois.edu
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net, 'Jack Brindle' jackbrin...@me.com
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 That won't happen. Besides, can you imagine a BOD telling Wayne/Eric how to
 run their business?  They're best left to their own devices because we win
 when that happens.  ;o)
 
 Rick wa6nhc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Gary Gregory
 
 now for the Elecraft IPO...:-)
 
 Gary
 
 
 
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 00:02:21 -0700
 From: Rem . marin...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] K1 in QRP TTF video
 To: ELECRAFT elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 Hi,
 
 I've just uploaded a video where Bill, KF6RMK and myself are operating in
 the QRP TTF event.
 Bill is uisng a K1 in it and it is a scenic location too.
 http://youtu.be/OBeDa-BM88o
 
 73
 Rem
 K6BBQ
 
 
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 Message: 3
 Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 08:51:11 +
 From: David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1 in QRP TTF video
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 Nice video and loadsa fun with your QRP set-up inspires me to do more 
 outdoor stuff, if only it would stop raining here!
 
 73
 
 David
 G3UNA
 
 On 20/05/2012 07:02, Rem . wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've just uploaded a video where Bill, KF6RMK and myself are operating in
  the QRP TTF event.
  Bill is uisng a K1 in it and it is a scenic location too.
  http://youtu.be/OBeDa-BM88o
 
  73
  Rem
  K6BBQ
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 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length
 
 
 If you don't change direction you'll arrive where you're headed!Sent from my 
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 Message: 5
 Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 06:10:31 -0400
 From: John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] reflectors
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 I don't favor this suggestion at all. As long as people are somewhat 
 careful about the content of the subject 

Re: [Elecraft] OT: Dayton New Equipment Show

2012-05-20 Thread HQ129X
Well, when Flex  starts charging for software updates. That alone will  
kill future sales. With all the hype on how great their new lineup is,time will 
 tell. We all know what is on paper and what happens in the real world can 
be  completely different. They learned that you need a dedicated high 
performance PC  to work the software. That was proven from their users with all 
those problems I  have seen on their reflector. At least Elecraft has a proven 
record of great  products.
 
 Charlie
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Dayton New Equipment Show

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Hystad
But then, we may be witnessing another change in the evolution of ham radio 
where the added value to a rig is in the software and not the hardware.  By 
licensing their SmartSDR,  Flex may be realizing that the key factor separating 
them from the other emerging SDRs lies with their software and not the hardware 
components.  In particular, their DSP as well as the visual user interface.

So, the future SDR rig may indeed be the software you load on your computer and 
the hardware component is nothing but a mere commodity that you pick up from an 
SDR vendor or throw together yourself.  After all, once the key parts of an SDR 
hardware are made available as various ADC ICs and other components then there 
is only the software to deal with.

I submit that this is indeed the future of ham radio where your new rig is 
something you download from a software vendor rather then buy at HRO.

My two-bits.

73, phil, K7PEH


On May 20, 2012, at 9:33 AM, hq1...@aol.com wrote:

 Well, when Flex  starts charging for software updates. That alone will  
 kill future sales. With all the hype on how great their new lineup is,time 
 will 
 tell. We all know what is on paper and what happens in the real world can 
 be  completely different. They learned that you need a dedicated high 
 performance PC  to work the software. That was proven from their users with 
 all 
 those problems I  have seen on their reflector. At least Elecraft has a 
 proven 
 record of great  products.
 
 Charlie
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Logan Zintsmaster
Phil,
I had exactly the Novice station and still have it.  I hope to fire it up once 
I retire.  Novice call KN8YXV.  Logan
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 07:53:39 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net ListElecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

I am sitting here on the couch in the shack with my Mac laptop in my lap and I 
realize that all my rigs up on the desk are all black.  Vendors include 
Elecraft, Icom, and Yaesu and they are all black.  And, they are all the same 
shade of black.  Even my Astron power supplies, my Palstar dummy load, my 
Palstar tuner, my LP100A, my COMSpkrs are black.

Actually, the only non black thing up there on my desk is my Begali Magnetic 
Classic paddle.  It is gold looking.

I have this photo of my shack when I was in high school and very little in that 
photo is black (at least from the photos perspective).  The receiver, an 
HQ-170AC, was sort of a gray blue color, the transmitter, an Eico 720 has a 
very shiny aluminum front with meter and black knobs (although the case is 
black it is not seen in the photo).  I have some miscellaneous Heathkit stuff 
which sports the non-black Heathkit colors.  In this photo from 50 years ago, 
very little is black.

OK, not much technical for Elecraft questions but now I am really curious about 
this.  So, my question posted here on Sunday morning while I wait for the 
oatmeal to be ready.

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Hystad
Logan,

I still have the HQ-170AC (though missing the clock) and three Eico 720s.  
Alas, they are not my originals.  I sold my original HQ-170AC for just under 
$200 in 1967 for money I needed for tuition and books that year in college.  I 
gave away my Eico 720 and a lot of other equipment to an up-and-coming budding 
high-school aged ham after I realized that I would be in school forever 
(planned on PhD Physics, got drafted instead and joined the Air Force).  The 
[novice] rigs I have today I picked up at various hamfests in the last 8 years.

My novice call sign:  WN7ECQ.

phil


On May 20, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Logan Zintsmaster wrote:

 Phil,
 I had exactly the Novice station and still have it.  I hope to fire it up 
 once I retire.  Novice call KN8YXV.  Logan
 Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com
 Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 07:53:39 
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net ListElecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors
 
 I am sitting here on the couch in the shack with my Mac laptop in my lap and 
 I realize that all my rigs up on the desk are all black.  Vendors include 
 Elecraft, Icom, and Yaesu and they are all black.  And, they are all the same 
 shade of black.  Even my Astron power supplies, my Palstar dummy load, my 
 Palstar tuner, my LP100A, my COMSpkrs are black.
 
 Actually, the only non black thing up there on my desk is my Begali Magnetic 
 Classic paddle.  It is gold looking.
 
 I have this photo of my shack when I was in high school and very little in 
 that photo is black (at least from the photos perspective).  The receiver, an 
 HQ-170AC, was sort of a gray blue color, the transmitter, an Eico 720 has a 
 very shiny aluminum front with meter and black knobs (although the case is 
 black it is not seen in the photo).  I have some miscellaneous Heathkit stuff 
 which sports the non-black Heathkit colors.  In this photo from 50 years ago, 
 very little is black.
 
 OK, not much technical for Elecraft questions but now I am really curious 
 about this.  So, my question posted here on Sunday morning while I wait for 
 the oatmeal to be ready.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread r miles

I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two 
for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the 
KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to 
KPA500? Is elecraft offering a wart xfmr for the KAT500? Any minor 
details yet to be spoken about?

K9IL

K3, KPA500  in Aug KAT500 
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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread ussv dharma
Peter
Some of us seem to forget that there are hams that may be beginnersto them 
it is ROCKET SCIENCE.  Just like the hams that insist on 40wpm cw...no matter 
how slow the other ham is..anyway, thanks for your comments.

 
If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
 USSV DHARMA
 



 From: Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE) pa0...@xs4all.nl
To: Ussvdharma ussvdha...@yahoo.com 
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] reflectors
 
Did'nt we all agree somewhere in the very past to start our device specific 
messages with that specific device in the subject directly after the [Elecraft] 
signature?

I have created filters in Thunderbird that routes all [Elecraft] mail to an 
Elecraft folder and all device specific to a subfolder with that device 
specific name.

Unfortunately not everbody seems to understand or forgot about this simple 
rule...

Do we really need to create a howto? It isn't rocket science...

73,
Peter PA0PJE

Op 20-05-12 12:03, Ussvdharma schreef:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length
 
 
 If you don't change direction you'll arrive where you're headed!Sent from my 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Mike Markowski
Around 1990 an audio company, Adcom, that at that time time was well 
regarded (no longer the case, I'm told by audio enthusiasts at work) had 
a line of audio gear that came out in both black and white.  Apparently 
the white sold well in California but not the rest pf the US.  Outside 
of CA you could get the white gear for about $100 less - and still 
didn't fly off the shelves.  Maybe the ham companies are simply giving 
customers what they want?  Yet it would be interesting to see a white K3!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/20/2012 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
 For years many were light grey. Yaesu even had an elegant looking almost
 white rig. TenTec was tan. Of coure Heath was green. My only thought
 would be that the black rigs represent something heavier - military
 tough - official looking.

 Black also shows dust more readily - FWTW.

 Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread KQ8M
I think the problem with white is it will readily show all kinds of dirt
including something as minor as skin oils. This will end up discoloring the
rig around the knobs and switches. With, black, green and grey they are not
as readily visible.

Tim Herrick, KQ8M
Charter Member North Coast Contesters
k...@kq8m.com

AR-Cluster V6 kq8m.no-ip.org
User Ports: 23, 7373  with local skimmer, 7374 without local skimmer
Server Ports: V6 3607, V4 Active 3605, V4 Passive 3606


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Markowski
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

Around 1990 an audio company, Adcom, that at that time time was well 
regarded (no longer the case, I'm told by audio enthusiasts at work) had 
a line of audio gear that came out in both black and white.  Apparently 
the white sold well in California but not the rest pf the US.  Outside 
of CA you could get the white gear for about $100 less - and still 
didn't fly off the shelves.  Maybe the ham companies are simply giving 
customers what they want?  Yet it would be interesting to see a white K3!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/20/2012 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
 For years many were light grey. Yaesu even had an elegant looking almost
 white rig. TenTec was tan. Of coure Heath was green. My only thought
 would be that the black rigs represent something heavier - military
 tough - official looking.

 Black also shows dust more readily - FWTW.

 Bill W2BLC

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[Elecraft] K1 output

2012-05-20 Thread raimon
For the atton. to Don Wilhelm W3FPR

Dear Don, I need again your help (I got your help time ago, for my K2 
100, my problem was easily solved)

My K1 serial nr. 493, revision D, with Firmware upgrade Rev. 109, and 
with KAT1, has been working flawlessly for some years.
Now, after some months QRT in my shack, I tried it again, and a problem 
appeared:

No matter what is the Power Out setting (I can modify output setting), 
when transmitting no bars are shown, in Tune mode shows P 0.1, and I 
cannot change power output with WPM, Same behaviour connected to a dummy 
load.

I removed KAT1, (I did not forget the jumper in J2), and the problem 
persists.
Connected the K1 (without KAT1) to a dummy load through an Oak Hills QRP 
wattmeter, it reads 2 watts no matter what is the power out setting. No 
bars in the display.
When I transmit, the signal can be heard in a nearby receiver, at the 
frequency shown in the display.
Reception is working OK.

So I proceeded to the Transmitter Signal Tracing

These are the readings (40 meter band)

PRE: 0.049 V
ATTN: 0.014 V
OSC: 0.08 V
MIX: 0.082 V
BUF: 1.581 V
TRI: 0.702 V
BPF: 0.422 V
TR2: 0.387 V
TR3: 0.000 V
DRV: 1.63V
PA: 16.15
ANT: 10.17 V
RFD: *0.02 V*

I suspect a bad solder developed over the years.
Where should I look for this failing behaviour?

Many thanks in advance for your help
Raimon Pardos
EA3EZO
rfui...@telefonica.net


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors - the easy way

2012-05-20 Thread Ralph Parker
how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???

Here's how I deal with the overload, Susan:

I save  http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/maillist.html
in my browser. It shows the subject line of all the messages.
Then I read the ones that interest me. I generally look down the right side
for authors that I respect, and read their posts first. Then maybe the others.
(One quickly sorts the wheat from the chaff.)

No complicated filtering required.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Jim Lowman
The short answer is that Eric has already spoken on this issue, and has 
firmly said no to separate lists.
Either we have a lot of new people on the Elecraft list, or they aren't 
bothering to check the archives before dredging up a subject that has 
been discussed many times before.

Heck, I let Thunderbird sort all of the Elecraft lists/groups into a 
single folder.  This morning there were 79 messages.
I simply delete the ones not of interest; i.e. the new amp and antenna 
tuner.

Traffic is heavy now, with new products like the KX3 and the KAT500 and 
the anticipation.
Also, the Dayton Hamvention is a timely topic.
How many messages are there today on the legacy models, like the K1 and K2?
Other than the latest firmware release, we don't even hear that much 
about the K3.
Bottom line is that it will die down - eventually.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


On 5/20/2012 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


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[Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Edward R. Cole
I you note most computers are black color as are most 
stereo-audio-home theater and evn TV cabinets.  I think it is the 
wish for components to recede into home decor rather than stand 
out.  I'm guessing the ham mfr's have just followed suit.

There are some that have a different color and that seems to a 
signature color for the company.


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:

 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?

I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:

http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg

Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.

This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
between the KAT500 and KPA500

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Edward R. Cole
I suggest we change this reflector stop being about ham radio or 
Elecraft products and dedicate the next several hundred post to how 
to set e-mail filters on the 6-18 different e-mail clients available 
..  Let's NOT, OK?



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Oliver Dröse
Probably K3 - KAT500 - KPA500 with 15 pin HD cables (as between K3 and 
KPA500) judging from the pictures on the Elecraft news page. It is needed to 
interrupt PA PTT during tune up.

73, Olli - DH8BQA



- Original Message - 
From: r miles greenacres...@charter.net
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT 500



 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500? Is elecraft offering a wart xfmr for the KAT500? Any minor
 details yet to be spoken about?

 K9IL

 K3, KPA500  in Aug KAT500 
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
As I recall earlier Icom gear had sort of a greenish hue to their black,
dependent upon the model.  The Heathkit HF rigss of the '80s were brown.
Kenwood offered its first dual band VHF/UHF rig in brushed aluminum.

Early coputing equipment was mostly white, but only the IBM stuff has
not become an ugly shade of yellow (even non-IBM stuff in non smoking
environments yellows) over its lifetime.  Black may show the dust more
readily but it seems to preserve its luster over the equipmen't
lifetime.

Black is fine by me.  It matches nearly any decor and it's universal.
Does the radio work as claimed?  That's why my black K3 sits on my desk.
:-)

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Dick Dievendorff
This is correct. 

However the KAT500 will also work with other radios and amps, so we provide a 
couple of ways for amp interrupt. With K3 band lines we can bandswitch on 
receive, otherwise we have to detect band change on Tx, similar to the 
technique used by the KPA500.

Dick

On May 20, 2012, at 14:14, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?
 
 I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg
 
 Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
 KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
 keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.
 
 This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
 configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
 KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
 between the KAT500 and KPA500
 
 73,
 
~iain / N6ML
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[Elecraft] OT-Reflector

2012-05-20 Thread kf4clo
Hi all
 The newest entry on nabble is May 15,I've had it go a couple of days before
but never 5 days before.
Maybe its something on my end.
   Frank-kf4clo
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 output

2012-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Raimon,

If you have 10 volts RF at the antenna jack and no DC voltage at the 
cathode of D15, then you have either a bad D15 or a bad connection at 
R36 or R37.  In fact, your earlier K1 you had lifted one end of the 
resistor R36 when you installed the KAT1, and you must re-attach it when 
you remove the KAT1.  It is on the bottom of the board.

If you do have DC voltage at D15, then R4 or R34 could have bad 
soldering.  In a rare instance, you night find a shorted C43 - check the 
resistance to ground from the cathode of D15, it should be close to 100k.

Once you have DC voltage from D15, I believe the power indication and 
control will restore themselves to normal.

It is possible that you have a damaged diode in the KAT1 wattmeter - 
especially suspect if an antenna was connected during the non-use period.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 5/20/2012 1:47 PM, raimon wrote:
 For the atton. to Don Wilhelm W3FPR

 Dear Don, I need again your help (I got your help time ago, for my K2
 100, my problem was easily solved)

 My K1 serial nr. 493, revision D, with Firmware upgrade Rev. 109, and
 with KAT1, has been working flawlessly for some years.
 Now, after some months QRT in my shack, I tried it again, and a problem
 appeared:

 No matter what is the Power Out setting (I can modify output setting),
 when transmitting no bars are shown, in Tune mode shows P 0.1, and I
 cannot change power output with WPM, Same behaviour connected to a dummy
 load.

 I removed KAT1, (I did not forget the jumper in J2), and the problem
 persists.
 Connected the K1 (without KAT1) to a dummy load through an Oak Hills QRP
 wattmeter, it reads 2 watts no matter what is the power out setting. No
 bars in the display.
 When I transmit, the signal can be heard in a nearby receiver, at the
 frequency shown in the display.
 Reception is working OK.

 So I proceeded to the Transmitter Signal Tracing

 These are the readings (40 meter band)

 PRE: 0.049 V
 ATTN: 0.014 V
 OSC: 0.08 V
 MIX: 0.082 V
 BUF: 1.581 V
 TRI: 0.702 V
 BPF: 0.422 V
 TR2: 0.387 V
 TR3: 0.000 V
 DRV: 1.63V
 PA: 16.15
 ANT: 10.17 V
 RFD: *0.02 V*

 I suspect a bad solder developed over the years.
 Where should I look for this failing behaviour?

 Many thanks in advance for your help
 Raimon Pardos
 EA3EZO
 rfui...@telefonica.net

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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Joe K2UF
I would not enjoy staring at a white or yellow or brushed aluminum or any
other light colored radio for a full weekend contest or even a 4 hour
sprint.  Now my ears hurt after a contest, I don't need my eyes to hurt
also.  ;o)

73  Joe K2UF

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were inconvenienced.


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

As I recall earlier Icom gear had sort of a greenish hue to their black,
dependent upon the model.  The Heathkit HF rigss of the '80s were brown.
Kenwood offered its first dual band VHF/UHF rig in brushed aluminum.

Early coputing equipment was mostly white, but only the IBM stuff has
not become an ugly shade of yellow (even non-IBM stuff in non smoking
environments yellows) over its lifetime.  Black may show the dust more
readily but it seems to preserve its luster over the equipmen't
lifetime.

Black is fine by me.  It matches nearly any decor and it's universal.
Does the radio work as claimed?  That's why my black K3 sits on my desk.
:-)

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors (end of discussion)

2012-05-20 Thread Peter Eijlander (PA0PJE)
If I have offended anyone with my comment, I offer my apologies.
Consider the discussion closed please.
73,
Peter PA0PJE

Op 20-05-12 20:15, Edward R. Cole schreef:
 I suggest we change this reflector stop being about ham radio or
 Elecraft products and dedicate the next several hundred post to how
 to set e-mail filters on the 6-18 different e-mail clients available
 ..  Let's NOT, OK?



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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Rig Colors

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Townsend
I would pay extra for a choice of colors... RED 
On May 20, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Mike Markowski wrote:

Around 1990 an audio company, Adcom, that at that time time was well 
regarded (no longer the case, I'm told by audio enthusiasts at work) had 
a line of audio gear that came out in both black and white.  Apparently 
the white sold well in California but not the rest pf the US.  Outside 
of CA you could get the white gear for about $100 less - and still 
didn't fly off the shelves.  Maybe the ham companies are simply giving 
customers what they want?  Yet it would be interesting to see a white K3!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/20/2012 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
 For years many were light grey. Yaesu even had an elegant looking almost
 white rig. TenTec was tan. Of coure Heath was green. My only thought
 would be that the black rigs represent something heavier - military
 tough - official looking.
 
 Black also shows dust more readily - FWTW.
 
 Bill W2BLC
 
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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Bob
 From my view we seem to already  be experiencing separation of the Elecraft 
owners. The Yahoo KX3 group seems to have much more activity than the KX3 does 
here.   That does not seem to be the case with the K3.

I do not see this as a good thing.  I come here for all things Elecraft.  I'm 
only a reader of KX3 items being  a lurker only on it.  This forum is a support 
item for Elecraft but it is also a sales tool too. How many support calls has 
it 
eliminated and sales has it  generated?  Who knows when some item will trip me 
from just being a reader into the  I want. and owner camp.

I've replaced quite a few keyboards over the years but never because of a 
delete 
key failure.

While here, yes I drink all the Elecraft Kool Aid but some flavors I like more 
than others.

73,
Bob
K2TK   ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 5/20/2012 1:57 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 The short answer is that Eric has already spoken on this issue, and has
 firmly said no to separate lists.
 Either we have a lot of new people on the Elecraft list, or they aren't
 bothering to check the archives before dredging up a subject that has
 been discussed many times before.

 Heck, I let Thunderbird sort all of the Elecraft lists/groups into a
 single folder.  This morning there were 79 messages.
 I simply delete the ones not of interest; i.e. the new amp and antenna
 tuner.

 Traffic is heavy now, with new products like the KX3 and the KAT500 and
 the anticipation.
 Also, the Dayton Hamvention is a timely topic.
 How many messages are there today on the legacy models, like the K1 and K2?
 Other than the latest firmware release, we don't even hear that much
 about the K3.
 Bottom line is that it will die down - eventually.

 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


 On 5/20/2012 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


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[Elecraft] KAF2 found - thanks Bill

2012-05-20 Thread xraying

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[Elecraft] RCS-12 or Station Master for K3?

2012-05-20 Thread Ignacy
I have a few switches and would like to automate band changes. There are two
choices:
1. Ameritron RCS-12. About $320 with the relay box. Very simple but one
needs to use tricks to use two relay boxes. 
2. Microham Station Master. Much more elaborate but more complicated,
relying on computer, and needs additional relay boxes.

I don't consider the ELecraft box because its software has neither the
simplicity of RCS-12 nor the flexibility of Station Master. Only firmware
problems. 

Looking for experiences, not opinions.

Ignacy, NO9E

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Hi Dick/anyone,

Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
bands?

73,

~iain



On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 This is correct.

 However the KAT500 will also work with other radios and amps, so we provide a 
 couple of ways for amp interrupt. With K3 band lines we can bandswitch on 
 receive, otherwise we have to detect band change on Tx, similar to the 
 technique used by the KPA500.

 Dick

 On May 20, 2012, at 14:14, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:

 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?

 I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:

 http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg

 Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
 KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
 keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.

 This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
 configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
 KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
 between the KAT500 and KPA500

 73,

    ~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] RCS-12 or Station Master for K3?

2012-05-20 Thread N4QS
Ignacy,

I ordered and attempted to install the RCS-12 last summer.  It did not 
interface well with the K3/KPA500.  I was going to have to build an 
interface box to get it work with the K3.  I also had problems with the type 
of socket they were using for connecting the cable going to my remote 
switch.  Only five of eight positions worked at all, and they were 
intermittent creating open circuits which weres causing my KPA500 solid 
state amp to suddenly see very high SWR while transmitting.  After a month 
of trial and error and two replacement cable connectors from Ameritron, I 
asked for my money back and to their credit they let me ship the unit back 
for a full refund.  So I would not recommend the RCS-12 based on my personal 
experience.

I have not used or tried any Microham products.  But I just recently 
purchased the Elecraft KRC2 automatic band decoder.  This is a very high 
quality product and it was very easy to wire for my remote RC8S switch.  It 
interfaces very nicely to the K3/KPA500 when I use a Y cable coming out of 
the Auxilliary Port on the K3.  The Y cable splits in two -- one cable goes 
to the KPA500 amp and the other connects to the KRC2.  The KRC2 follows the 
K3 automatically and switches between four antennas.  It works really well 
and I would highly recommend it.  It even works on 6 meters.

Dave, N4QS


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:46 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RCS-12 or Station Master for K3?


I have a few switches and would like to automate band changes. There are 
two
 choices:
 1. Ameritron RCS-12. About $320 with the relay box. Very simple but one
 needs to use tricks to use two relay boxes.
 2. Microham Station Master. Much more elaborate but more complicated,
 relying on computer, and needs additional relay boxes.

 I don't consider the ELecraft box because its software has neither the
 simplicity of RCS-12 nor the flexibility of Station Master. Only firmware
 problems.

 Looking for experiences, not opinions.

 Ignacy, NO9E

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
yes

Eric

www.elecraft.com
_..._



On May 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 Hi Dick/anyone,
 
 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?
 
 73,
 
~iain
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 This is correct.
 
 However the KAT500 will also work with other radios and amps, so we provide 
 a couple of ways for amp interrupt. With K3 band lines we can bandswitch on 
 receive, otherwise we have to detect band change on Tx, similar to the 
 technique used by the KPA500.
 
 Dick
 
 On May 20, 2012, at 14:14, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?
 
 I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg
 
 Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
 KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
 keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.
 
 This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
 configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
 KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
 between the KAT500 and KPA500
 
 73,
 
~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] RCS-12 or Station Master for K3?

2012-05-20 Thread W4CCS
I have used the MicroHam Station Master for many months without issues. 
It does exactly what I wanted it to do. It interfaced with my Array 
Solutions 6-Pak switch very well. That being said, It is not plug and 
play. You will need to setup lots of parameters within the USB device 
router software, But, once it is setup, no need for further action.

W4CCS


On 5/20/2012 5:23 PM, N4QS wrote:
 Ignacy,

 I ordered and attempted to install the RCS-12 last summer.  It did not
 interface well with the K3/KPA500.  I was going to have to build an
 interface box to get it work with the K3.  I also had problems with the type
 of socket they were using for connecting the cable going to my remote
 switch.  Only five of eight positions worked at all, and they were
 intermittent creating open circuits which weres causing my KPA500 solid
 state amp to suddenly see very high SWR while transmitting.  After a month
 of trial and error and two replacement cable connectors from Ameritron, I
 asked for my money back and to their credit they let me ship the unit back
 for a full refund.  So I would not recommend the RCS-12 based on my personal
 experience.

 I have not used or tried any Microham products.  But I just recently
 purchased the Elecraft KRC2 automatic band decoder.  This is a very high
 quality product and it was very easy to wire for my remote RC8S switch.  It
 interfaces very nicely to the K3/KPA500 when I use a Y cable coming out of
 the Auxilliary Port on the K3.  The Y cable splits in two -- one cable goes
 to the KPA500 amp and the other connects to the KRC2.  The KRC2 follows the
 K3 automatically and switches between four antennas.  It works really well
 and I would highly recommend it.  It even works on 6 meters.

 Dave, N4QS


 - Original Message -
 From: Ignacyn...@arrl.net
 To:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:46 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] RCS-12 or Station Master for K3?


 I have a few switches and would like to automate band changes. There are
 two
 choices:
 1. Ameritron RCS-12. About $320 with the relay box. Very simple but one
 needs to use tricks to use two relay boxes.
 2. Microham Station Master. Much more elaborate but more complicated,
 relying on computer, and needs additional relay boxes.

 I don't consider the ELecraft box because its software has neither the
 simplicity of RCS-12 nor the flexibility of Station Master. Only firmware
 problems.

 Looking for experiences, not opinions.

 Ignacy, NO9E

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 View this message in context:
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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors. [END of thread]

2012-05-20 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Let's end this thread for now.

As we have stated several times in the past, we will not be splitting the list. 
Its impossible for us to monitor multiple lists regularly, and it also is 
important for us to maintina a central focus for the Elecraft community where 
we can get feedback and also make announcements.

If you are overloaded by list volume, there are several excellent web based 
Elecraft list archives that display postings by subject. You only need to click 
on and read what younwant to see. The nabble archive has topic organized 
threads and also allows threading by subject to group all of a subject line 
together. see www.elecraft.com/elist.heml for links to these searchablr 
archives.

73,
Eric
List Moderator - Now about to take off for our flight home from Dayton.

www.elecraft.com
_..._



On May 20, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Bob k...@ptd.net wrote:

 From my view we seem to already  be experiencing separation of the Elecraft 
 owners. The Yahoo KX3 group seems to have much more activity than the KX3 
 does 
 here.   That does not seem to be the case with the K3.
 
 I do not see this as a good thing.  I come here for all things Elecraft.  I'm 
 only a reader of KX3 items being  a lurker only on it.  This forum is a 
 support 
 item for Elecraft but it is also a sales tool too. How many support calls has 
 it 
 eliminated and sales has it  generated?  Who knows when some item will trip 
 me 
 from just being a reader into the  I want. and owner camp.
 
 I've replaced quite a few keyboards over the years but never because of a 
 delete 
 key failure.
 
 While here, yes I drink all the Elecraft Kool Aid but some flavors I like 
 more 
 than others.
 
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[Elecraft] KAT500 order status

2012-05-20 Thread Joe K2UF
When I bought my K3/P3 and KPA500 I was not in the first wave.  Those of you
who bought a KX3 early did you get an e-mail confirming your order and where
you were on the list?

I was not at Dayton this year (have not been there in several years).  When
I saw that they were taking orders over the phone I called immediately.  The
woman I talked to (did not get her name) said they had already received many
orders.  I hope I can get in on the first batch.  Would like to have it
operating before the fall contest season.

73 Joe K2UF

 

No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons
were inconvenienced.



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Iain and all,

I actually think there is little difference between tuning into an 
already resonant load and putting the tuner in bypass.  I do not have 
the KAT500 to do any testing of that statement, but it is true for all 
the other Elecraft tuners I have worked with.  To me, leaving the tuner 
in all the time just makes sense - just do a TUNE if there is any 
question.  No need to bypass it except for testing purposes.

In fact, doing a TUNE into that 50 ohm load may be better than bypassing 
since any residual reactance will be compensated for.

I do hope Wayne. Eric and Lisa get some sleep on the plane - traveling 
East to West makes for a very long day and upset sleep patterns on the 
westerly end.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/20/2012 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:
 Hi Dick/anyone,

 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?

 73,

  ~iain



 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dick Dievendorffdie...@comcast.net  wrote:
 This is correct.

 However the KAT500 will also work with other radios and amps, so we provide 
 a couple of ways for amp interrupt. With K3 band lines we can bandswitch on 
 receive, otherwise we have to detect band change on Tx, similar to the 
 technique used by the KPA500.

 Dick

 On May 20, 2012, at 14:14, iain macdonnell - N6MLa...@dseven.org  wrote:

 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r milesgreenacres...@charter.net  wrote:
 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?
 I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:

 http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg

 Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
 KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
 keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.

 This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
 configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
 KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
 between the KAT500 and KPA500

 73,

 ~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 order status

2012-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe,
Unless they have added sales office staff in the last 5 months, you were 
speaking with either Madelyn, Vicki, or Olivia.  All very nice to talk 
with and quite knowledgeable.

73,
Don W3FPR
_
_On 5/20/2012 6:30 PM, Joe K2UF wrote:
 When I bought my K3/P3 and KPA500 I was not in the first wave.  Those of you
 who bought a KX3 early did you get an e-mail confirming your order and where
 you were on the list?

 I was not at Dayton this year (have not been there in several years).  When
 I saw that they were taking orders over the phone I called immediately.  The
 woman I talked to (did not get her name) said they had already received many
 orders.  I hope I can get in on the first batch.  Would like to have it
 operating before the fall contest season.

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Yes and yes. 

Wayne 
N6KR


http://www.elecraft.com

On May 20, 2012, at 5:00 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:

 Hi Dick/anyone,
 
 Does that mean that the KAT500 can automatically retune (based on
 memory) immediately on band-change, without any RF being transmitted?
 That'd be rather cool. If yes, can it also be told that some bands
 don't need matching, and so automatically go into bypass for those
 bands?
 
 73,
 
~iain
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net wrote:
 This is correct.
 
 However the KAT500 will also work with other radios and amps, so we provide 
 a couple of ways for amp interrupt. With K3 band lines we can bandswitch on 
 receive, otherwise we have to detect band change on Tx, similar to the 
 technique used by the KPA500.
 
 Dick
 
 On May 20, 2012, at 14:14, iain macdonnell - N6ML a...@dseven.org wrote:
 
 On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 9:58 AM, r miles greenacres...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I placed my order. I hope to be in the 1st run. I have a question or two
 for the guys who saw it at Dayton.
 How is it cabled. Not the antenna connections.  K3 to it or thru the
 KPA500?  Will there be a special cable like the one  for the K3 to
 KPA500?
 
 I wasn't at Dayton, but you can see the connectors here:
 
 http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg
 
 Clearly the ACC connection loops through the KAT500 to get the
 KPA500. This makes sense, as it would allow the tuner to interrupt the
 keying line to the amp during tuning, etc.
 
 This part is *speculation* on my part; I imagine that the typical
 configuration will be a straight-through DE-15 (as supplied in the
 KPAK3AUX kit) between the K3 and KAT500, and another (identical cable)
 between the KAT500 and KPA500
 
 73,
 
~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Rest is a huge problem, not to mention on the feet when you are not used to
it.  The physical fatigue takes its toll.  As a 66 year old runner,  I
cannot imagine what just standing in place for a couple of days takes.  I
want to get in my 18th marathon next fall and I don't know if I can do it.
The 1/2 marathon was tough enough this year.  I used to run them without
thinking.  Aging is always a wonderful challenge.  As long as the mind
doesn't go first?  :-)  Then I look at some of my messages and wonder if
mine hasn't already gone.  ;-#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-


In fact, doing a TUNE into that 50 ohm load may be better than bypassing
since any residual reactance will be compensated for.

I do hope Wayne. Eric and Lisa get some sleep on the plane - traveling East
to West makes for a very long day and upset sleep patterns on the westerly
end.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/20/2012 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is
 getting out of control in length

This comes up periodically [with the usual replies like this one].  Both 
Eric and Wayne have repeatedly indicated they do not want multiple email 
reflectors, understandable since they actually read the content and 
multiples would undoubtedly delay the KX3 shipping line and the KAT500 
assembly line. :-)

There are some separate lists, mostly Yahoo I think, for specific 
E'gear, I know there is one for the KX3.  Try setting email filters. 
I've got several in T-Bird and the list stays at a civilized length when 
stuff I am not interested in goes into the interim trash can.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread va3bxg
The KX3 YAHOO group, seems to be more concerned about delivery of products(the 
tuner being the newest discussion). the moderation (read professional) is 
sometimes, in my opinion lacking.

So this reflector is where the actual/professional discussion happen. And 
something that would suffer if we rely on other lists.

Wayne/Eric and their gang are extremely busy, not only  maintaining their 
business focus, but plan/produce the type of products we can't wait for.


Robert

a 'kosher' ham 
Sent from my BlackBerry device

-Original Message-
From: Bob k...@ptd.net
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 15:33:44 
To: Jim Lowmanjmlow...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] reflectors

 From my view we seem to already  be experiencing separation of the Elecraft 
owners. The Yahoo KX3 group seems to have much more activity than the KX3 does 
here.   That does not seem to be the case with the K3.

I do not see this as a good thing.  I come here for all things Elecraft.  I'm 
only a reader of KX3 items being  a lurker only on it.  This forum is a support 
item for Elecraft but it is also a sales tool too. How many support calls has 
it 
eliminated and sales has it  generated?  Who knows when some item will trip me 
from just being a reader into the  I want. and owner camp.

I've replaced quite a few keyboards over the years but never because of a 
delete 
key failure.

While here, yes I drink all the Elecraft Kool Aid but some flavors I like more 
than others.

73,
Bob
K2TK   ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR


On 5/20/2012 1:57 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
 The short answer is that Eric has already spoken on this issue, and has
 firmly said no to separate lists.
 Either we have a lot of new people on the Elecraft list, or they aren't
 bothering to check the archives before dredging up a subject that has
 been discussed many times before.

 Heck, I let Thunderbird sort all of the Elecraft lists/groups into a
 single folder.  This morning there were 79 messages.
 I simply delete the ones not of interest; i.e. the new amp and antenna
 tuner.

 Traffic is heavy now, with new products like the KX3 and the KAT500 and
 the anticipation.
 Also, the Dayton Hamvention is a timely topic.
 How many messages are there today on the legacy models, like the K1 and K2?
 Other than the latest firmware release, we don't even hear that much
 about the K3.
 Bottom line is that it will die down - eventually.

 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


 On 5/20/2012 3:03 AM, Ussvdharma wrote:
 how about seperate reflectors for k2, k3, p3???  this single one is getting 
 out of control in length


 If you don't change direction you'll arrive where you're headed!Sent from my 
 iPad




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Re: [Elecraft] For those at Dayton (KAT500)

2012-05-20 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/18/2012 1:00 PM, Fred Bennett N9TA wrote:
 The price as I was just informed when I ordered via phone was $699
 assembledI don't remember the un-assembled price but I think it was in
 the low $600s. A bit steep for a tuner...but I'm betting it'll be worth it!!

You've GOT to be kidding. It's a bargain at this price.  That's the cost 
of the Ten Tec MANUAL tuner!  I ordered three.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] OT: LP-Pan For Sale

2012-05-20 Thread Joel Black
I have an LP-Pan with preamp for sale.  Call me crazy, but side-by-side, 
I like the P3 better.  Don't worry I'm a Former Marine, so I've been 
called crazy.  :)

I am the second owner.  My understanding is that it came to the original 
owner in kit form.  It has 2 each mono audio cables (1/8 on one end, 
RCA on the other) and a DC connector for the 12VDC output from the K3.  
I may even have the instructions somewhere in the shack.  It is in 
excellent shape.  It has one cosmetic flaw that you cannot see unless 
you're looking for it.  I will discuss with the potential buyer.

$125 and you pay for shipping.

In the interest of BW, please only reply off-list to me.

73,
joel - W4JBB
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[Elecraft] KAT500 Youtube

2012-05-20 Thread Sebastian, W4AS
Searching on YouTube, I happened to find this video interview with a well know 
Elecraft person, discussing the KAT500: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc-7M1aPT54feature=related

73 de Sebastian, W4AS



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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (5/20/12)

2012-05-20 Thread Phillip Shepard
Fewer KX3s than last week, but an OK net.  We had 23 participants over a 22
minute period.  Have a great
week.

Here is the list of participants.

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

N6JWJohnCA  K3  936
AG6IS   Scott   CA  K3  4117
W0CZKen ND  K3  457
K4GCJ   Gerry   NC  K3  1597
W4RKS   Jim AL  K3  3618
NZ0TBillKS  K3  1502
N1OXA   IvanME  K3  4538
NV5ERob TX  KX3 98
W4PFM   PaulVA  K3  1673
WV5IDwayne  TX  K3  5287
W6GFGeorge  CA  KX3 123
NT5QDon TX  K3  4179
KF5IMA  Bruce   MS  K2  3575
W8OVDaveTX  K3  3139
WW4JF   JohnTN  K3  6185
NA6ZDon CA  K3  5495
WB6CLZ  MikeCA  K3  4522
W3FPR   Don NC  K3  20
KT4DD   Dan FL  K3  4022 (and KX3 56)
KC6CNN  Jerald  TX  K3  6294
N4FZGeneKY  K3  4128
K0DTJ   Brian   CA  K3  4113
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

73,

Phil, NS7P
ph...@riousa.com

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Re: [Elecraft] For those at Dayton (KAT500)

2012-05-20 Thread Gary Gregory
*Jim,

In VK you will pay that for a pretty dumb LDG auto-tuner with a single
antenna connection and more for a manual Palstar.

Given the almost equal exchange rate the KAT-500 not only represents value
for money (not a phrase I would use in a sentence with MFJ in it) it offers
great versatility and quality built right into it.

I don't see any quality competition out there.

Just my two cents worth, keep the change!

Gary
*
On 21 May 2012 10:07, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote:

 On 5/18/2012 1:00 PM, Fred Bennett N9TA wrote:
  The price as I was just informed when I ordered via phone was $699
  assembledI don't remember the un-assembled price but I think it was
 in
  the low $600s. A bit steep for a tuner...but I'm betting it'll be worth
 it!!

 You've GOT to be kidding. It's a bargain at this price.  That's the cost
 of the Ten Tec MANUAL tuner!  I ordered three.

 73, Jim K9YC
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Gary
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K3 #679, KPA-500 #018
Living the dream!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] For those at Dayton (KAT500)

2012-05-20 Thread Jim Brown

 The LDG AT-1000ProII is on a Dayton sale at Gigaparts for $459 with free 
 shipping through Monday, the 21st. (Must be ordered on-line) I just posted 
 this since there were $539 prices being mentioned on the reflector.

I briefly owned an AT-1000. I hated it, and sold it at a loss.  LDG was 
VERY unresponsive in addressing issues when I sent a virtually new 
product in for service.  Most of us here know what Elecraft's service is 
like.

It should be noted that the Elecraft tuner has THREE switched outputs, 
each of which remembers by band the settings for what was last 
connected.  An early product description suggested that the tuner might 
be usable for SWRs below 3:1 at up to 1 or 1.2 kW.

As to the comparison (by others) with products like MFJ (Mighty Fine 
Junk) -- you gotta be kidding.  This is not just a tuner, it is an 
ELECRAFT tuner.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] [KX] Subject

2012-05-20 Thread Jay
Fellow Elecrafters,

While Eric has closed the subject of multiple reflectors for the various
products, the simple solution for all of the mail filters is to use the
SUGGESTED subject entries.

If everyone uses the suggested subject line of guideline 4b, everyone's filters
will work perfectly.  To quote:

4b. *** [NEW] When emailing about a specific rig or option, please add the
rig/option name(s) to the first part of your email subject line. 
(K1, K2, K3, KX1 etc.) This will be a huge help for those experiencing email
overload and will allow automatic filtering based on subject line.

Examples: Subject: [K3] Filter Options
Subject: [KX1] How to use ped portable?
Subject: [XG2] Wow! Its a big help.

I am not the list police!  My DELETE key works just fine, thank you.  But e-mail
list life would be a lot easier if everyone would use the suggested subject line
format.

Jay
AJ4AY
Mobile, AL 


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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for May 20th 21st, 2012

2012-05-20 Thread kevinr
Good Evening,
Radio is fun on a foggy, chilly day.  I got to see the eclipse 
vicariously via many viewpoints.  One photo in my inbox already; maybe 
there will be some more.  The comment about seeing many, many crescents 
under the trees was my favorite since I had seen it before in a near 
total eclipse.  I wish I could have afforded to travel the few hundred 
miles it would have taken to see totality.

Conditions were decent.  Not fantastic but good enough to have fun 
and bring together a geographically diverse group.  I had reports of QSB 
on me from many places but I only had it on you folks from the Midwest 
and the South.  QRN was mild on 40 when we started but it grew steadily 
until the end of the net.  I kept turning my RF gain back to keep it at 
a dull roar; just enough to dig out the weaker stations.  There were 
some nearby stations I could not filter out except with the filter 
between my ears.

On to the lists =

   On 14050 kHz at 2200z:
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
WA5BDU - Nick - AR - K3 - 1195
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178
AC5P - Mike - OK - K3 - 2170
NK6A - Don - CA - K3 - 4569
WS5K - Stan - NM - K3 - 4797

   On 7045 kHz at 0200z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
WI6O - John - CA - K1 - 922
W6JDB - Jay - OR - K3 - 1288
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
NY6G - Stan - CA - Kenwood

Thanks for all the fun over the years.  It looks like the ninth 
anniversary is coming up in a couple weeks.  I'll need to check since it 
may be the tenth anniversary.  Time flies!  I'll dig into my boxes of 
files and see what year this all started.  I don't think the Reflector's 
archives date back to that time.  Propagation has changed over the years 
as have net procedures.  Tom, N0SS, left a strong stamp on how this all 
works.  I surely miss his relay help.  Another look at the continent 
would assist those stations wishing to check in but who I cannot hear.  
Any ideas?

Until next week stay well,
   73,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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[Elecraft] Elecraft Reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread WB9JPH
Guy wrote:

 This gets brought up from time to time by those who want everything in the
 mail list to be only something they want to read.  For those who really
 want to do that, every mail program, including major web mail clients like
 Google's, has a sorting mechanism to put things in different folders, or
 toss them out just like you want it.  Or in a minute's time you can mark a
 hundred message for delete.  Tired of hearing about KPA500 and KAT500, just
 set your client to delete them based on subject or content.  In Google's
 Gmail web client, these are ridiculously easy to set up.
 
 73, Guy


I agree that the reflector is so big as to be nearly useless.

I use Apple Mail and it treats the digest as a single e-mail message.

Perhaps I am missing something, but how can I delete portions of the digest 
message that do not interest me?

73
John
WB9JPH
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT 500

2012-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill,

i cencur with you opinion, 
,

On 5/20/2012 6:57 PM, Bill K9YEQ wrote:
 Rest is a huge problem, not to mention on the feet when you are not used to
 it.  The physical fatigue takes its toll.  As a 66 year old runner,  I
 cannot imagine what just standing in place for a couple of days takes.  I
 want to get in my 18th marathon next fall and I don't know if I can do it.
 The 1/2 marathon was tough enough this year.  I used to run them without
 thinking.  Aging is always a wonderful challenge.  As long as the mind
 doesn't go first?  :-)  Then I look at some of my messages and wonder if
 mine hasn't already gone.  ;-#

 73,
 Bill
 K9YEQ


 -Original Message-


 In fact, doing a TUNE into that 50 ohm load may be better than bypassing
 since any residual reactance will be compensated for.

 I do hope Wayne. Eric and Lisa get some sleep on the plane - traveling East
 to West makes for a very long day and upset sleep patterns on the westerly
 end.

 73,
 Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

Do NOT choose the digest form, it is sent as one email.

Instead choose to receive individual emails and those can be sorted by 
your email client as Guy has suggested.  The selection between 
individual emails and digest is made at mailman.com.  Click the Home 
link at the bottom of this post.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/21/2012 12:37 AM, WB9JPH wrote:
 Guy wrote:

 This gets brought up from time to time by those who want everything in the
 mail list to be only something they want to read.  For those who really
 want to do that, every mail program, including major web mail clients like
 Google's, has a sorting mechanism to put things in different folders, or
 toss them out just like you want it.  Or in a minute's time you can mark a
 hundred message for delete.  Tired of hearing about KPA500 and KAT500, just
 set your client to delete them based on subject or content.  In Google's
 Gmail web client, these are ridiculously easy to set up.

 73, Guy

 I agree that the reflector is so big as to be nearly useless.

 I use Apple Mail and it treats the digest as a single e-mail message.

 Perhaps I am missing something, but how can I delete portions of the digest 
 message that do not interest me?

 73
 John
 WB9JPH
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Phil Hystad
I use Apple mail and I have no problem deleting anything that is not of 
interest.  But, I don't get the digest.  I receive each e-mail message 
separately.  This is the only way to handle a reflector like this so that you 
can use the mail filtering and macro actions on mail messages.  This is what I 
do.  I use a combination of smart folders plus various macros for creating 
sub-categories with Mac mail.  Actually, I never delete anything.  I still have 
just about every mail message received since 2009 when I started.  Storage data 
is not a problem.


On May 20, 2012, at 9:37 PM, WB9JPH wrote:

 Guy wrote:
 
 This gets brought up from time to time by those who want everything in the
 mail list to be only something they want to read.  For those who really
 want to do that, every mail program, including major web mail clients like
 Google's, has a sorting mechanism to put things in different folders, or
 toss them out just like you want it.  Or in a minute's time you can mark a
 hundred message for delete.  Tired of hearing about KPA500 and KAT500, just
 set your client to delete them based on subject or content.  In Google's
 Gmail web client, these are ridiculously easy to set up.
 
 73, Guy
 
 
 I agree that the reflector is so big as to be nearly useless.
 
 I use Apple Mail and it treats the digest as a single e-mail message.
 
 Perhaps I am missing something, but how can I delete portions of the digest 
 message that do not interest me?
 
 73
 John
 WB9JPH
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Reflectors

2012-05-20 Thread Scott Manthe
Don't get the digest. Set the reflector up to send you individual 
emails, and then set up filters so that you see only what you want to 
see. Should it be Eric and Wayne's responsibility to set up individual 
reflectors because people are unwilling to figure out how to filter 
their own emails? And I hate to say it, but this reflector doesn't exist 
so that you only get messages that interest you. There are solutions to 
the problem that don't entail changing the reflector.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 5/21/12 12:37 AM, WB9JPH wrote:
 I agree that the reflector is so big as to be nearly useless. I use 
 Apple Mail and it treats the digest as a single e-mail message. 
 Perhaps I am missing something, but how can I delete portions of the 
 digest message that do not interest me? 73 John WB9JPH
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