[Elecraft] VK Contest
*Hi folks, VK Shires contest is about to start, lots of VK's looking for contacts. Exchange for DX is Zone number. Apologies for the bandwidth folks...Two K3's here...:-) 73 Gary * -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679,P3 #1629, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Interpretation of P3 display
On 6/8/2012 11:45 AM, Harold V wrote: > I have a question for the group regarding interpretation of the P3 display of > SSB signals. > > Primarily I use it to spot stations on quiet bands or spot openings on busy > bands. But I am trying to gain a better understanding of what it is showing > me > regarding the quality of signals as well. I run mine at spans of 20 or 40 KHz [I have the PF keys set for those] when operating in contests or when I want to see the immediate band around me. I use fixed-track all the time, so sometimes it's not "all around me," just on one side. If I want to look at someone's signal spectrum, I go to a span of 6. If he's really wide, I'll look at it at a span of 10 KHz. > Is this what is known as "splatter"? Is the station overdriving their > transmitter or linear? Is their ALC or compression too high? Is the > frequency > response of their microphone too wide? OK Van, multiple questions. What most folks call splatter is caused by driving the last amplifier stage into saturation [i.e. it can't produce any more power so it clips off the peaks]. It doesn't really involve compression, they're just driving their amplifier into saturation, it clips the peaks [a very non-linear occurrence], and all sorts of IMD is generated around their signal. The cure is, "Don't drive your amplifier into saturation." This is sometimes called flat-topping. Another problem could be phase noise. This is generated inherently in the transmitter part of your radio, and is essentially unwanted random FM modulation of your signal caused by jitter in the frequency. Phase noise on a signal will be essentially independent of the strength of the signal, within reason, although the guy down the block with 1.5 KW and lots of phase noise can easily take out the entire band for you when he taps his paddle. > > A good friend of mine has a K3/P3 and we have discussed this at length and > come > to the conclusion that we really don't understand what we are seeing. Anyone > on > the list have comments as to what they have observed or an explanation of what > we are seeing? There are a whole lot of other causes. Getting an amplifier and saturating the core in your balun can wreak havoc on the ham bands, and on your neighbor's TV's if they're receiving over the air. Same effect as driving your amplifier to saturation. Highly compressed audio can lead to unintelligibility on SSB. It tends to be a bit wider, but the real problem is it totally fills the bandwidth with no dynamic range, something we depend on in our heads to understand speech. ESSB signals will be broader, as will AM. I've been watching WWV on 10 MHz. I'm working on a project for my wife and I need to get the little PIC to keep time reasonably well. At 4 KHz span, I'm surprised by the spectrum. It *IS* WWV, I'm sure there's nothing wrong, but I still can't explain what I see. Your P3 opens a whole different view of the radio spectrum. It's worth exploring. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 No current display
My K2 has recently been repaired after a polarity reversal of amp connected to it blew out the bnc connector. It works all OK, except that when I switch the display to show Volts/current, the current stays on i0.00. I have checked the current sense resistor voltage drop is OK for both RX and TX, and the voltage is showing at control board MCU pin 4 ( current sense input). (0.013 volts RX, 0.11 volts at 10W TX). So at this point I'm stumped. Faulty MCU chip? Any advice on/off the forum would be appreciated. Chris VK2ACD Email sent using Dodo Webmail __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q out span
Thanks Matt, that fully answers my question. Anybody out there who used that feature already? I'm interested in comparing this to solutions like K3+LP-PAN. tnx es 73 Gernot DF5RF Am 07.06.2012 23:42, schrieb Matt Maguire: > The I/Q bandwidth is discussed in the "SDR Applications" section of > the manual. I quote: > > * > > The RX I/Q outputs from a receiver are not “flat” over an infinite > frequency range; the signal-conversion process results in some > slope (decrease in gain) as you move farther from the center > frequency. In the case of the KX3, the signal will be reduced by > about 2.5 dB at +/- 24 kHz, 4 dB at +/- 48 kHz, and 7 dB at +/- 96 > kHz. The spectrum amplitude on the display, including the apparent > noise floor of the receiver, will “roll off” by these amounts. > > 73, Matt VK2ACL > > On 08/06/2012, at 6:49 AM, DF5RF wrote: > >> The KX3 seems to have direct I/Q outputs to the sound card - which >> sounds really attractive to me. >> The manual says the span depends on the sound card sampling rate, like >> 48/96/192kHz. But it does not tell what kind of band width one can >> expect. >> As I read further, there seems to be a 15kHz limitation imposed by a >> default roofing filter, and this will go narrow automatically under >> certain conditions. >> Again, what kind of span can I expect, and will it depend on any filter >> settings or not? >> Thanks and 73 >> Gernot >> DF5RF >> K2 #2328 >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Plating [was: !]
The original Elecraft Grey (US: Gray) that was used for the K1 and K2 really made Elecraft stand out from the rest. I was very sorry to see the colour (US: color) degenerate to black, the same as used by the competitors. I guess it's too late to change back now. However, as the original paint is still available, perhaps Elecraft would be prepared to make a special one, at an appropriate cost of course. 73 de David G4DMP -Original Message- From: Don Putnick Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 8:21 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 Plating [was: !] Wayne, I really want to make my K3-line a show piece, but this black really doesn't do it for me. How much would it cost to plate it in rhodium? 73 Don NA6Z - David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds, UK Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (K3) RX bandpass - shift/width vs low cut/high cut
Hi All, I like to run around 3.2 wide rx when band conditions permit. I noticed I can get much more low frequency response when using the shift/width controls vs low & high cut. With Low & High cut seems even with low at 0 the low frequency starts around 100 to 150 Hz. I haven't pulled out the test equipment to verify but can definitely tell by ear it is nowhere near zero Hz. Using Shift/width and setting shift to 1.45 and width to 3.2 I can get very nice lows & highs. Tested with 13 Khz, 6 kHz and 2.8 kHz filters (yes I know the 2.8 would restrict the dsp bandwidth even further). Can this be something in IF filter alignment? Using the following filters, 13 Khz, 6 kHz, 2.8 kHz, 400 Hz. All filters set to zero Hz in config. Thanks Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: Fred Townsend Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 4:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Free to a Good Home- Teletype Manuals These are mostly depot level Teletype and Facsimile WWII and Korean War era originals. A sampling: 1. Technical Manual Model 35 ASR 2. Teletype Parts List (Includes schematics) circa 1942 3. Teletype High Speed Punch Set circa 1965 4. Teletype TD TT-187/UG circa 1963 5. Signal Data Recorder RD-231 circa 1965 Please contact offline. Arrange to pick-up or FOB San Jose, CA. I will ship USPS library rate if you send the stamps. Fred, AE6QL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Interpretation of P3 display
Are you using the waterfall ? Seems like you are just using the scope, with no combo waterfall display beneath. The waterfall shows splatter very well. Adrian ... vk4tux -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Harold V Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2012 4:46 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Interpretation of P3 display I have a question for the group regarding interpretation of the P3 display of SSB signals. Primarily I use it to spot stations on quiet bands or spot openings on busy bands. But I am trying to gain a better understanding of what it is showing me regarding the quality of signals as well. I have my P3 set up to show the band width as a column and the span set to +/- 25. I have noticed that most SSB signals will remain within the bounds of the column. However, some SSB signals will exceed the width of the column and will resemble a pyramid, occupying several kilohertz above and below the column on voice peaks. The proximity of the station does not appear to matter as these observations apply to distant stations as well as local stations. Is this what is known as "splatter"? Is the station overdriving their transmitter or linear? Is their ALC or compression too high? Is the frequency response of their microphone too wide? A good friend of mine has a K3/P3 and we have discussed this at length and come to the conclusion that we really don't understand what we are seeing. Anyone on the list have comments as to what they have observed or an explanation of what we are seeing? Any relevant comments would be appreciated. Thanks Van K0HCV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Free to a Good Home- Teletype Manuals
These are mostly depot level Teletype and Facsimile WWII and Korean War era originals. A sampling: 1. Technical Manual Model 35 ASR 2. Teletype Parts List (Includes schematics) circa 1942 3. Teletype High Speed Punch Set circa 1965 4. Teletype TD TT-187/UG circa 1963 5. Signal Data Recorder RD-231 circa 1965 Please contact offline. Arrange to pick-up or FOB San Jose, CA. I will ship USPS library rate if you send the stamps. Fred, AE6QL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] New K3--CW QRQ Problem
Hi Mike, What is CONFIG:TX DLY set to? 73, Guy. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Michael Marx wrote: > Hey all, > > I just built my new K3-100. All seems to be fine except when I try to > use CW QRQ mode. When I select this mode, I only have about 5 watts of > power output no matter where the power setting is. Elecraft says that the > CW QRQ mode has nothing to do with power output, yet I have the problem. I > am using the built in wattmeter and an external wattmeter. When I switch > CW QRQ off, the power comes back to full. I did a reset at Elecraft's > recommendation and it did not resolve the problem. I also loaded the > newest firmware (which it should have had anyway) and no solution to the > problem. Any ideas out there > > 73, > Mike WB0SND > > Michael Marx > sndtu...@vacuumtubes.com > > www.vacuumtubes.com > SND Tube Sales > 105 N. Division St. > Bonne Terre, MO 63628 > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] K3 Plating [was: !]
Wayne, I really want to make my K3-line a show piece, but this black really doesn't do it for me. How much would it cost to plate it in rhodium? 73 Don NA6Z K3, KPA500, and KAT500 on order "Alternative: With the KX3 up on its tilt stand there's enough clearance to a chunk of metal to the back, say 6 x 2 x 0.5 inches. You could use steel or lead (boring!), or make your KX3 truly unique by using osmium, tungsten, indium, etc. Wayne N6KR" __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Interpretation of P3 display
On 6/8/2012 11:45 AM, Harold V wrote: > Is this what is known as "splatter"? The triangular shape is most likely phase noise. > Is the station overdriving their transmitter or linear? The most likely causes are phase noise produced by inferior transceiver designs, and distortion products in transmitters and power amps. > Is their ALC or compression too high? That can also be a cause, and also overdriving audio. These products would vary in strength with modulation, and most prominent on audio peaks. > Is the frequency response of their microphone too wide? No -- transmitted bandwidth is limited by the transmitting filters in the transceiver. Virtually all mics have response from at least 50 Hz to at least 10 kHz, although the degree of uniformity can vary widely from one mic to another. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol
On the contrary, I am certainly glad you did. This illustrates once again the wonderful cooperation and spirit of comradeship found on this forum. I don't know of many other groups that are as carrying and responsive. I thank you very much for the response. Bruce-W8FU -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dm...@nexicom.net Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:04 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol Holy Cow! we all answered at once! sorry Bruce didn't mean to clobber you. > > --- Original message --- > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol > From: > To: > Date: Wednesday, 06/06/2012 3:00 PM > > > > > > David Moes > VE3DVY > > Hi Bruce if you are using SSB this means that you are in Extended > single sideband, a wider bandwidth ssb mode. > > To turn it off enter config and TX ESSB and tap 1 to toggle. > > > >> >> >> >> >> Recently I noticed a new symbol has appeared on the LCD of my K-3. It >> is a plus symbol + which is at the bottom right-hand side of the LCD. >> I don't recall seeing it there before now. Does anyone know what it >> means? And how I could remove it? It does not seem to have impacted >> the operation of the K-3 but since it is not something I have seen >> before I think I would rather see it disappear. I have looked through >> the owners manual but I can't seem to find any reference to it other >> than the page which shows all of the symbols that might appear on the >> LCD and it does appear to be in the lower right-hand corner. >> Unfortunately, I can't seem to find an explanation for it >> >> Bruce - W8FU >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol
Ah ha! Yes, I am in ESSB. I never noticed that the symbol appeared when I turned it on and since that was quite a while ago I did not associate its appearance with the ESSB mode. I thank you so much for the information. It was beginning to bug me a little. Bruce-W9FU -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dm...@nexicom.net Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:01 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] odd symbol David Moes VE3DVY Hi Bruce if you are using SSB this means that you are in Extended single sideband, a wider bandwidth ssb mode. To turn it off enter config and TX ESSB and tap 1 to toggle. > > > > Recently I noticed a new symbol has appeared on the LCD of my K-3. It > is a plus symbol + which is at the bottom right-hand side of the LCD. > I don't recall seeing it there before now. Does anyone know what it > means? And how I could remove it? It does not seem to have impacted > the operation of the K-3 but since it is not something I have seen > before I think I would rather see it disappear. I have looked through > the owners manual but I can't seem to find any reference to it other > than the page which shows all of the symbols that might appear on the > LCD and it does appear to be in the lower right-hand corner. > Unfortunately, I can't seem to find an explanation for it > > Bruce - W8FU > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Interpretation of P3 display
I have a question for the group regarding interpretation of the P3 display of SSB signals. Primarily I use it to spot stations on quiet bands or spot openings on busy bands. But I am trying to gain a better understanding of what it is showing me regarding the quality of signals as well. I have my P3 set up to show the band width as a column and the span set to +/- 25. I have noticed that most SSB signals will remain within the bounds of the column. However, some SSB signals will exceed the width of the column and will resemble a pyramid, occupying several kilohertz above and below the column on voice peaks. The proximity of the station does not appear to matter as these observations apply to distant stations as well as local stations. Is this what is known as "splatter"? Is the station overdriving their transmitter or linear? Is their ALC or compression too high? Is the frequency response of their microphone too wide? A good friend of mine has a K3/P3 and we have discussed this at length and come to the conclusion that we really don't understand what we are seeing. Anyone on the list have comments as to what they have observed or an explanation of what we are seeing? Any relevant comments would be appreciated. Thanks Van K0HCV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] !
Thereby making said kx3 available to those of us that did not order fast enough. Hi hi Alan K2ACK Sent from my mobile device. On Jun 8, 2012, at 18:37, Phil Hystad wrote: > Of course, if it is pure osmium then it will react with the Oxygen in the air > and form Osmium Tetroxide which is a very volatile and poisonous vapor that > can be breathed in readily. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] ZN-SLR
I have 2 of Tony's paddles. The vertical ZN-3A and a custom ZN-5H with a heavier base. I needed that because of lack of feeling in hand. These are EXCELLENT KEYS to say the least. I have no ties to Tony just a very satisfied customer. I have reviews on eham of my keys. Rick NK 9G - Original Message - From: "Jim Lowman" To: Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ZN-SLR >I wasn't aware of Tony's paddles until a friend mentioned them to me. > Now I have a ZN-V vertical paddle on order that should be here around > the end of next month. > > My favorite paddles to date is one based on the original Mercury paddle > that I bought at Pacificon around 2000. This new one could give it a run > for its money. > > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW > > On 6/8/2012 3:28 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: >> Don Wilhelm-4 wrote >>> >>> I just received an N3ZN single lever paddle (ZNSLR) - what a great piece >>> of workmanship - Thank you Tony. >>> It weighs in at about 5 pounds, so there is no problem with it moving, >>> but it is not something that works nicely for portable operation. >>> >>> 73, >>> Don W3FPR >>> >>> >> Good choice Don! The ZN-SLR is *BY FAR* the best single-lever paddle >> I've >> ever used (including Vibroplex, Bencher, Kent, Begali, etc). My problem >> is >> that I'm so spoiled by it that I'm even willing to lug it around on >> portable >> operations like the recent QRPTTF: >> >> http://www.zianet.com/qrp/QRPTTF/PIX/w4zv_2.jpg >> >> 73, Bill W4ZV >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] ZN-SLR
I wasn't aware of Tony's paddles until a friend mentioned them to me. Now I have a ZN-V vertical paddle on order that should be here around the end of next month. My favorite paddles to date is one based on the original Mercury paddle that I bought at Pacificon around 2000. This new one could give it a run for its money. 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW On 6/8/2012 3:28 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > Don Wilhelm-4 wrote >> >> I just received an N3ZN single lever paddle (ZNSLR) - what a great piece >> of workmanship - Thank you Tony. >> It weighs in at about 5 pounds, so there is no problem with it moving, >> but it is not something that works nicely for portable operation. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> > Good choice Don! The ZN-SLR is *BY FAR* the best single-lever paddle I've > ever used (including Vibroplex, Bencher, Kent, Begali, etc). My problem is > that I'm so spoiled by it that I'm even willing to lug it around on portable > operations like the recent QRPTTF: > > http://www.zianet.com/qrp/QRPTTF/PIX/w4zv_2.jpg > > 73, Bill W4ZV > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
I would recommend replacing the amp relay with a faster one or pin diodes as a real fix but if you just want VOC CW you can lengthen the VOX delay so that the VOX does not drop between characters. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:25, "Vic, K2VCO" wrote: > No, it's not that simple. Just try it in TEST mode and see. > > On 6/8/12 3:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On 6/7/2012 10:01 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >>> The problem is that the K3 does not produce good CW when the TX delay is >>> set to more than >>> about 14. Nothing to do with QSK in this case. >> >> Hmmm. I have no experience with this (because my Ten Tec Titan amps work >> fine with default settings), but might this be fixed by using something >> like a WinKey and tweaking the weighting? >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > -- > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
He is correct. Pretty much any setting above 12 start to degrade the CW causing it to sound choppy. Wayne and Lyle already know about it since it has been noted some time ago. 73 Greg On 6/8/2012 10:25 AM, Vic, K2VCO wrote: > No, it's not that simple. Just try it in TEST mode and see. > > On 6/8/12 3:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: >> On 6/7/2012 10:01 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >>> The problem is that the K3 does not produce good CW when the TX delay is >>> set to more than >>> about 14. Nothing to do with QSK in this case. >> Hmmm. I have no experience with this (because my Ten Tec Titan amps work >> fine with default settings), but might this be fixed by using something >> like a WinKey and tweaking the weighting? >> >> 73, Jim K9YC >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
No, it's not that simple. Just try it in TEST mode and see. On 6/8/12 3:02 AM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 6/7/2012 10:01 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >> The problem is that the K3 does not produce good CW when the TX delay is set >> to more than >> about 14. Nothing to do with QSK in this case. > > Hmmm. I have no experience with this (because my Ten Tec Titan amps work > fine with default settings), but might this be fixed by using something > like a WinKey and tweaking the weighting? > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Operating Tip: Maximizing battery life in RX and TX modes
Battery life can be improved by minimizing the KX3's receive and transmit current drain. Receive The KX3 already has far lower receive-mode current drain than most all- band/all-mode transceivers, but you can further reduce it in several ways: - use headphones (10-100 mA saved depending on volume level) - turn off the LCD backlight (25 mA) - turn off the RX I/Q port when not needed (10 mA; see MENU:RX I/Q) - turn off the preamp (5 mA saved for the 20 dB preamp, 10-15 mA for the 10-dB preamp) - turn off the RX isolation amp (10-15 mA; see MENU:RX ISO) Using all of the above techniques, receive-mode current drain can be as low as 150 mA, varying a bit per-band. Transmit In transmit mode, current drain varies with power level, supply voltage, band, and load impedance. An antenna tuner (such as the internal KXAT3 option) can help ensure the transmitter sees a good match. There are some thresholds where the transmit current drain is automatically reduced by switching in a higher-impedance PA output transformer winding. In this case a decimal point is added to the right of the power display when you adjust it (e.g., "3.0 W."). Here are the conditions under which TX current is reduced: 1. 5.0 W or less in CW, FSK-D, and FM modes when key-down supply voltage is 11 V or higher TX current in this case is typically 1 amp -- about 50% lower than what you'll see if you move power just a bit above 5.0 W. This is especially useful for QRP Field Day outings (etc.) where the rig is powered from an external 12 to 14 V battery. 2. 3.0 W or less in all modes, regardless of supply voltage This is the generally recommended power level when operating from an internal NiMH battery pack. If you're more interested in power output than operating time, you can run up to 5 watts from the internal battery. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] !
Of course, if it is pure osmium then it will react with the Oxygen in the air and form Osmium Tetroxide which is a very volatile and poisonous vapor that can be breathed in readily. On Jun 8, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: > What's Kriptonite going for these days? > > W0FM > > -Original Message- > From: kevinr [mailto:kev...@coho.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:29 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ! > > 6 x 2 x 0.5 gives 6 cu in. Which is 98 cubic centimeters. at 22.5 gm/cc > that gives 2212 gms. The going price for a gram of osmium is $61 which makes > your weight cost about $134,947 not counting machining, mounting, plus > shipping and handling. Quite the fancy weight for your rig Wayne :) > > Kevin. KD5ONS > > > > On 6/7/2012 3:19 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> stan levandowski wrote: >> >>> What a rig!... >> Thanks, Stan. Glad you like it. >> >> >>> I am a violent bug basher who requires at the very least 6 lbs of >>> dead weight >> Alternative: With the KX3 up on its tilt stand there's enough >> clearance to a chunk of metal to the back, say 6 x 2 x 0.5 inches. You >> could use steel or lead (boring!), or make your KX3 truly unique by >> using osmium, tungsten, indium, etc. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] !
What's Kriptonite going for these days? W0FM -Original Message- From: kevinr [mailto:kev...@coho.net] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 5:29 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ! 6 x 2 x 0.5 gives 6 cu in. Which is 98 cubic centimeters. at 22.5 gm/cc that gives 2212 gms. The going price for a gram of osmium is $61 which makes your weight cost about $134,947 not counting machining, mounting, plus shipping and handling. Quite the fancy weight for your rig Wayne :) Kevin. KD5ONS On 6/7/2012 3:19 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > stan levandowski wrote: > >> What a rig!... > Thanks, Stan. Glad you like it. > > >> I am a violent bug basher who requires at the very least 6 lbs of >> dead weight > Alternative: With the KX3 up on its tilt stand there's enough > clearance to a chunk of metal to the back, say 6 x 2 x 0.5 inches. You > could use steel or lead (boring!), or make your KX3 truly unique by > using osmium, tungsten, indium, etc. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Error PA1 and PL1 issue
Everything with the upload of the firmware 4.51 seemed to have solved this issue. The reflector database was extremely helpful. Could this be a portend of some serious issue in the K3? Any thoughts on this. Thanks, Keith AG6AZ -Original Message- From: Ham Radio Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 6:36 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Error PA1 and PL1 issue I just turned on my K3 this morning and received to my surprise Error PA1 and PL1 messages. It was working fine yesterday. When energizing the rig I heard a couple clicks and then I energizes. Receive audio is low and output is next to zero. I am reinstalling firmware as I saw that it worked for someone in the past. I will keep everyone posted. Keith AG6AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Error PA1 and PL1 issue
I just turned on my K3 this morning and received to my surprise Error PA1 and PL1 messages. It was working fine yesterday. When energizing the rig I heard a couple clicks and then I energizes. Receive audio is low and output is next to zero. I am reinstalling firmware as I saw that it worked for someone in the past. I will keep everyone posted. Keith AG6AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 front headphone jack problem
Hi Len, One thing you might check is the L-MIX-R menu setting. That caught me out once when I had set it to A-A for some testing and then forgot I had done that. Cheers and 73, Fred, KE7X "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation" www.ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Len Chesler Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:12 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 front headphone jack problem I have K3, S/N 1884 running latest FW vers 4.48. Also using P-2 and KPA500 in the chain. While plugging in headphones into the front phones jack, the speaker no longer mutes and I am only able to receive one channel through headphones. The phones jack was working perfectly in the past. I checked to see if the config parameter SKR+Ph was mistakenly modified, but the parameter was still set to "NO" I also attempted to load a previous FW version, but this did not alleviate the problem, so I switched back to the latest FW. I noticed on past reflectors that others have experienced this problem, but I did not see any definitive response. I am hoping that I don't have to run a complete re-set. Has anyone who has experienced this problem been able to figure out a solution? Tnx for your input. Len, K6LEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 paddle
On 6/7/2012 6:00 PM, John_N1JM wrote: > What's a paddle? It's a tool, used to correct, or discipline, phone operators, that they may come to understand the superiority of CW. Eric VA7DZ -- "And when the farmer has got his house, he may not be the richer but the poorer for it, and it be the house that has got him." - Thoreau, on Home Ownership -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
Wayne, Is that true? Rick K2XT > > The problem is that the K3 does not produce good CW when the TX delay is set > to more than > about 14. Nothing to do with QSK in this case. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] !
Isn't a paddle what you use to play table tennis/ping pong? :-) Ian, KM4IK On Jun 7, 2012 9:01 PM, "John_N1JM" wrote: > What's a paddle? > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-0325-tp7557268p7557287.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Switching off
Joe, Willis, No, I do not believe I hit the switch when removing the plug, but --- you both have me thinking. Thanks for the help. Bill - W0BBI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
On 6/7/2012 8:25 AM, Keith Neighbors wrote: > Anyone using a K3 with a Drake L4B linear? any problems? > 73 > Keith > Thanks for all the replies both off list and on the reflectorit appears no problems 73 Keith, W4HHN -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] ZN-SLR
Don Wilhelm-4 wrote > > > I just received an N3ZN single lever paddle (ZNSLR) - what a great piece > of workmanship - Thank you Tony. > It weighs in at about 5 pounds, so there is no problem with it moving, > but it is not something that works nicely for portable operation. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Good choice Don! The ZN-SLR is *BY FAR* the best single-lever paddle I've ever used (including Vibroplex, Bencher, Kent, Begali, etc). My problem is that I'm so spoiled by it that I'm even willing to lug it around on portable operations like the recent QRPTTF: http://www.zianet.com/qrp/QRPTTF/PIX/w4zv_2.jpg 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-0325-tp7557268p7557303.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & L4B
On 6/7/2012 10:01 PM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > The problem is that the K3 does not produce good CW when the TX delay is set > to more than > about 14. Nothing to do with QSK in this case. Hmmm. I have no experience with this (because my Ten Tec Titan amps work fine with default settings), but might this be fixed by using something like a WinKey and tweaking the weighting? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] !
Art: Glad to see your mention of the Schuur II even if that particular model might have been discontinued. I use the Schuur Profi Wabbler for both fixed and portable operations, unless I am trying to conserve absolutely every ounce of weight in the backpack. 73, Doc/K0EVZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Arthur Burke Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:30:01 To: Cc: Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ! My set of paddles at home is a moderately heavy Begali (Magnetic Classic). My paddles for my mobile setup is a no-longer-sold Profi II by Schurr. It weighs something like 54 ounces, so it doesn't move much either! Although the Profi II is no longer available, there's a new model that looks very similar - very pretty with what looks like a bronze base and a built-in dust cover. It is both weighty and pricey - not for the faint of heart or faint of wallet! My Profi and Begali both draw about as much conversation as my K3. Art - N4PJ On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > There are even heavier metals, but unfortunately they are also > radioactive and therefore hazardous to your health. > > I just received an N3ZN single lever paddle (ZNSLR) - what a great piece > of workmanship - Thank you Tony. > It weighs in at about 5 pounds, so there is no problem with it moving, > but it is not something that works nicely for portable operation. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/7/2012 6:19 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > stan levandowski wrote: > > > >> What a rig!... > > Thanks, Stan. Glad you like it. > > > > > >> I am a violent bug basher who requires at the very least 6 lbs of > >> dead weight > > Alternative: With the KX3 up on its tilt stand there's enough > > clearance to a chunk of metal to the back, say 6 x 2 x 0.5 inches. You > > could use steel or lead (boring!), or make your KX3 truly unique by > > using osmium, tungsten, indium, etc. > > > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KXV3 Question
John, N2HMM, did you set up the CONFIG settings for transverters: XV1 = ON XV1 RF = frequency band of the transverter (e.g. 144) XV1 IF = IF frequency the K3 will operate (e.g. 28) XV1 PWR = L 1.50 for 1.5mw max XV1 ADR = trn x, where x = 1 thru 9 each transverter gets a different XVx setting (i.e XV1 for 144, XV2 for 222, XV3 for 432 etc up to XV9 If these settings have not been done the KXV3 will not operate. 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com "Kits made by KL7UW" http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html