Re: [Elecraft] K3s in Remote Ham Radio

2013-08-05 Thread g8kbvdave
On 4 Aug 2013 at 12:00, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

 From: Matt Zilmer mzil...@verizon.net
 
 Looks like another tinyurl (my) buffo.  I'll correct this link and
 re-post.  Sorry.
 
 73,
 matt W6NIA
 
 On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 15:22:12 +, you wrote:
 
 GM Matt !
 
 It appears that I have to sign into some Hotmail account
 to access either URL  ??
 
 Ken - K0PP

Yes, 'MS Live' account holders only.  :(

Dave G0WBX.  (No I am not, and no I will not.)



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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread Ariel Jacala
Photo at http://www.ny4g.blogspot.com

All Elecraft Station - KX3 driving a Hardrock50, and a K2/100.  Antenna is a 
ZS6BKW  as an inverted V at 50 ft at the apex, Antenna is resonant on 40, 20, 
17, 12, and 10 with SWR below 2:1, usable on 80m with an autotuner.  2nd 
antenna is am EFHW for 30 and 15m - low power under 100W using an EARCHI 
transformer.  Computer is a Toshiba laptop showing an NaP3 panadapter display 
of he KX3 I/Q.  Both radios capable of remote operation through Teamviewer.  
Canakit Relay Box turns on either computer remotely through the internat.  
Operations range from Milliwatt Sprints (NAQCC) to full legal limit DX chasing  
 Keys are Begali Simplex and and N3ZN single lever plus a Palm Pico on the KX3. 
 Computer interfaces through Signalink USB, KIO2, and KXUSB.  Shack is awaiting 
the arrival of a Palstar AT2K high power tuner for the Drake L4B with the 2 
3-500Z tubes capable of 1000W CW and 2000W SSB with 75 watts of drive

Ariel NY4G

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 4, 2013, at 10:28 PM, k3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I use one of the following antennas: 
 
 1. A home brew Carolina Windom for 40 up 35-40 feet. 
 2. An interlaced 40/20 meter delta loop, apex up, base ~6 feet over ground, 
 and fed at a corner 
 3. An 18' vertical with 2 9' radials fed at the vertical base which is ~15' 
 feet above ground. 
 
 My shack is too messy to be photographed at this time. 
 
 My Field Day operation is entirely different. I participate with a team of 
 others who also own KX3s, except one. our antennas consist of beams and 1/2 
 rhombics. The towers are AB-577 portables.These are not for the average home 
 shack. 
 
 73, 
 Barry 
 K3NDM 
 
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 Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 4:09:23 PM 
 Subject: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas. 
 
 I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used. 
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread Dominic Baines

On 04/08/13 21:09, Richard Neese wrote:

I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Richard,

The KX3 is best used when not even in a shack and so that means lots of /P

http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/utlangan-eu-138.html
http://m1kta-qrp.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/qrv-from-eu-172-this-morning.html

You will find best antenna is one that is resonant and if you can get it 
right by the ocean you will be fine but you can also use alternatives 
with the internal tuner, we3dp, dipole, long wire, end fed wire, end fed 
half wave


72

Dom
M1KTA
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread Jim Sheldon
All Elecraft station also - K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500 normally on the desk - KX3 for 
portable use and during power outages or (heaven forbid) if the K3 develops a 
problem (only once in 3 years and it was MY fault).  Antennas at the home QTH 
are a Cushcraft A3S tri-bander at 35 feet, nondescript homebrew fan dipole at 
35 feet for 40, 30 and 17 meters, ground mounted Butternut HF2V with loading 
coil for 160/80/40 (KAT500 tunes it on everything including 6 meters) and a 
quarter wave inverted L sloping upward from 30 to 50 feet on 160 meters.

Portable antennas consist of a PAR EndFedZ 40-20-10 wire, a homebrew take-apart 
vertical that breaks down to mostly 1 foot sections (MFJ 6' telescopic whip is 
a bit longer) and uses a buddi-pole coil and a 21 foot non-resonant vertical 
that's collapsible but still too long for convenient portable carry.  I use it 
mostly at hamfests when demonstrating the K3 and KX3.  

Station pix at www.qrz.com - (look up W0EB) and scroll down the page for the 
latest shack pix.

Jim - W0EB


 I would like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread jimk8mr
 See page 10 and 11 of:


http://www.arrl.org/files/file/ContestResults/2013/2013-DXCW-Web1_1.pdf

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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread John Oppenheimer
KX3 Cruise Ship portable:

http://www.kn5l.net/hp0/

John KN5L
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Re: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.

2013-08-05 Thread Igor Sokolov

http://www.cqham.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=17539page=76


73, Igor UA9CDC
- Original Message - 
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:09 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] posting of kx3 shacks and antennas.



I wouls like to see some of the kx3 shacks and antennas used.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Front Panel Problem

2013-08-05 Thread KB9WMJ
This is a known issue with older K3's.  The contacts between the PC Board 
and the front panel and lose conectivity.  I do not recall all the details, 
so don't quote me, but I believe the materials were either dis-similar, or 
just not a reliable material.Elecraft started using silver plated 
contacts later in the production of K3's.  You can take it apart, and clean 
them, but this will re-occur.

- I have used a product called Stabilant 22, not in the K3, but in my work 
on computers.  This is a very good product, and not only cleans the contact, 
but prevents them from corroding again.  The down-side is it leaves a sticky 
substance on the pins, which is why they do not corrode, but it will pick up 
other dirt making the next cleaning more difficult.

- You can replace the pins, as these are available from Elecraft (Beware, as 
there are 40, I think)

- You can send in your radio, and they will replace them.

Fortunately my K3 was sent in by the previous owner, and mod'd up to the 
current level, which included the pin replacement.

Keith
KB9WMJ

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Downs k...@verizon.net
To: Dave Hachadorian k6ll.d...@gmail.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Front Panel Problem


Thanks Dave,

I tried rotating the four knobs and tapping them. Found out rotating the 
knobs works as expected, but the tap and hold functions do not work at all. 
None of the other buttons on the front panel work as expected except the 
POWER button. Tapping many of the buttons has no effect, but others cause 
unrelated functions to execute. For example, tapping the PRE button causes 
NTCH to turn on or off. Tapping the ANT button causes NR to turn on or off. 
Tapping the SPOT button or AFX button causes the SHIFT/LO control to switch 
from SHIFT to LO and the HI/WIDTH control to shift from HI to WIDTH.

This behavior causes me to believe the Parameter Initialization procedure 
needs to be activated, but I can't get it to initiate because the SHIFT/LO 
control doesn't work as expected. Oops! I just got it to work by holding the 
SPOT button while tapping the POWER button. Weird. Anyway, I restored the K3 
Configuration but none of the front panels problems have been resolved.

On Aug 3, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dave Hachadorian k6ll.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sometimes the pushbuttons on the four controls to the left of the
 main VFO knob get stuck.  Tap and rotate these four controls and
 everything will probably start working again.  One of the factory
 guys gave me that advice and it worked for me, about two years
 ago.  I bought replacements for the four encoder/switches (about
 $2 each) but never installed them, because everything has been
 totally solid ever since, and installation seemed like a PITA.
 As I remember, it took about ten minutes of fiddling with the
 controls until everything started working again.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, CA



 -Original Message- From: Michael Downs
 Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:24 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Reflector
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Front Panel Problem

 Elecraft List,

 I haven't used my K3 for quite a while as I have been playing
 with the KX3 (the K3 has been sitting on the desk totally
 disconnected from everything). Now when I fire up the K3, none of
 the front panel buttons and dual-purpose controls work, except
 volume and VFO A. I thought maybe the menu parameters got altered
 somehow preventing the firmware from operating correctly, so I
 tried to do a parameter initialization. But that failed because
 the Shift/Lo knob is not working (The other dual-purpose knobs:
 Hi/Width, Speed/Mic, and Cmp/Pwr don't work either). Therefore, I
 figured the contacts between the front panel and the radio had
 become corroded and weren't making a good electrical connection
 anymore. So, I removed the front panel and inspected the pins.
 Everything looked normal and I put the radio back together again.
 Still not working.

 Anyone want to make suggestions on what else I should try? I can
 communicate with the radio using the K3 Utility and I did
 reinstall the MCU firmware, DSP firmware and front panel
 firmware. None of that helped. I still think there must be a
 communication problem between the front panel and the radio, but
 don't know how to fix it. Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

 73,
 Mike ks7d

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[Elecraft] RemoteRig + K3/0 setup with microphone

2013-08-05 Thread Brian F. Wruble
This must be in a manual someplace, but I can't find it.

As my control rig, I have RemoteRig with a K3/0, sitting for the moment on
the same table, plugged into the same router.

For some reason, the RemoteRig for a *K3 used as the control station* comes
with a cable that has a microphone connector.  The cable set for the *K3/0*
*used as the control station* has no such cable, so one must assume you are
supposed to use the K3/0 front panel mike connector (since the rear panel
mike connection is used for RemoteRig.)

Nothing happens when I do that.  No transmitted audio from the local
(control) site.  I would plug into the control RemoteRig box, but there
is no obvious place to do that.  I can't tell the K3/0 to use the front
panel mike and high bias, because the remote K3 follows every menu change I
make at the local k3/0.

I feel pretty dumb, but what is the answer.

Thanks, guys,

73 de Brian W3BW


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Re: [Elecraft] RemoteRig + K3/0 setup with microphone

2013-08-05 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Hi Brian,

Try temporarily disconnecting the RS232 cable from the K3/0 to the RRC
(before power-on). That should allow you to access to the menus for
the K3/0 instead of the remote K3.

If your headset has a 1/8 plug, a possible alternative would to use a
barrel to connect it to the plug that's supposed to go into the K3/0's
rear mic connector (i.e. connect it directly to the RRC, bypassing the
K3/0). The JMP-1 jumper inside the RRC will supply bias.

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Brian F. Wruble bwru...@gmail.com wrote:
 This must be in a manual someplace, but I can't find it.

 As my control rig, I have RemoteRig with a K3/0, sitting for the moment on
 the same table, plugged into the same router.

 For some reason, the RemoteRig for a *K3 used as the control station* comes
 with a cable that has a microphone connector.  The cable set for the *K3/0*
 *used as the control station* has no such cable, so one must assume you are
 supposed to use the K3/0 front panel mike connector (since the rear panel
 mike connection is used for RemoteRig.)

 Nothing happens when I do that.  No transmitted audio from the local
 (control) site.  I would plug into the control RemoteRig box, but there
 is no obvious place to do that.  I can't tell the K3/0 to use the front
 panel mike and high bias, because the remote K3 follows every menu change I
 make at the local k3/0.

 I feel pretty dumb, but what is the answer.

 Thanks, guys,

 73 de Brian W3BW


 *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

 *70 is the new 40.*
 *
 Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
 Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
 eFax  305.768.0278
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Re: [Elecraft] RemoteRig + K3/0 setup with microphone

2013-08-05 Thread Milt -- N5IA



Brian,

I am in a somewhat similar situation, and the two problems may be related.

I sent the following message request to Elecraft Support and received the 
accompanying answer from Brandon.  I still have no information on this MOD 
to give 8 VDC to Pin 6.  My follow up requests to E-Support have gone 
unanswered.  Hopefully both of us can get some answers.


de Milt, N5IA
==

 Original Message  Subject:  k3/Remote Rig
Date:  Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:34:16 -0700
From:  Milt -- N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
To:  k3supp...@elecraft.com

Brandon,

I am slowly making progress with my initial setup with the K3 and K0 plus 
the two black box Remote Rig units.


I have it all functioning for SSB using an Elecraft MH2 hand held microphone 
plugged directly into the K0.


I am now trying to move to using a headset with a boom microphone.

To make the change I remove the J1 jumper in the RR associated with the K0 
to remove the bias utilized by the MH2.  Otherwise everything is left the 
same.


The problem is I do not get any audio passed through the K0.

I have trouble shot the situation by doing the following;  I in turn connect 
both the MH2 and the headset boom mic to the K3 (they are on the same desk 
for testing) utilizing the front panel mic connection which mirrors the K0, 
and both microphones work FB.  I turn on the bias on the K3 for the MH2 and 
remove it for the headset boom mic and either one works just fine.


So, my question is...What am I not doing correctly to make the boom 
mic work through the K0?


Thanks for your prompt reply.

Milt, N5IA

From: Brandon Hansen [KG6YPI]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:49 AM
To: Milt -- N5IA
Subject: Re: Fwd: N5IA k3/Remote Rig

Hello Milt,

   Do you know if your boom mic requires power?   The K3 provides power 
on pin 6.  The K3/0 does not have this power applied as its not available 
from the RemoteRig.  Do you need 8v on pin 6?  This 8v is not BIAS, its 
power for the mic.  The MH2 does not require power.  If needed, there is a 
mod to give 8v to pin 6  on the K3/0's  front panel mic connector.


I hope this helps, thanks for any info.

Brandon Hansen, KG6YPI
===

-Original Message- 
From: Brian F. Wruble

Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 8:32 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector ; supp...@elecraft.com
Subject: [Elecraft] RemoteRig + K3/0 setup with microphone

This must be in a manual someplace, but I can't find it.

As my control rig, I have RemoteRig with a K3/0, sitting for the moment on
the same table, plugged into the same router.

For some reason, the RemoteRig for a *K3 used as the control station* comes
with a cable that has a microphone connector.  The cable set for the *K3/0*
*used as the control station* has no such cable, so one must assume you are
supposed to use the K3/0 front panel mike connector (since the rear panel
mike connection is used for RemoteRig.)

Nothing happens when I do that.  No transmitted audio from the local
(control) site.  I would plug into the control RemoteRig box, but there
is no obvious place to do that.  I can't tell the K3/0 to use the front
panel mike and high bias, because the remote K3 follows every menu change I
make at the local k3/0.

I feel pretty dumb, but what is the answer.

Thanks, guys,

73 de Brian W3BW


*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

*70 is the new 40.*
*
Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
eFax  305.768.0278



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[Elecraft] V29SH

2013-08-05 Thread Ellam, Timothy St. J.
I operated from Jumby Bay, Antigua for much of last week.

I used my KX3, Precision End fed 10/20/40 and Buddipole in a vertical 
configuration (no coil, longer whip and standoff arms and 4 sloping elevated 
radials-feedpoint at about 8’). Antenna was about 20m from the water. I also 
used a Pigtail and Hamlog on my iPad for logging. For power, I use a 
refurbished laptop power supply which takes up minimal room. I also had 
Enerloops installed for my one outside foray.

Some points that might be of interest:

-The KX3 and most of the accessories (including the trail version of the End 
fed and some mini coax)fit neatly into one of Rose’s bags. I took the KX3 out 
of the bag when going through security. It did not attract any attention. The 
side plates and cover make the KX3 a lot easier to transport.  I checked the 
Buddipole as an extra bag. It arrived unscathed.

-The Buddipole played very well on 15 and 17. I think the key is to set it up 
as a i/4 wave vertical and not use the coil if you can. I did set it up 
directly on the beach one day and I did not notice any appreciable change from 
running it closer to the villa. I did not have enough coax to run back to the 
air conditioned room when it was on the beach so it was more difficult to 
operate in the heat and direct sunlight. The End Fed worked well on 20 with it 
tied off to a tree at about 15’. Again only 20m from the water.

-17 was the money band with good opening to EU and the pacific. Perhaps jaded 
from operating from the abyss of VE6 I had forgotten how good propagation is 
from the Caribbean. I had next to no noise and the band was open well into the 
evening.

-initially I could not find the KPD paddle which I could have sworn I packed. 
This meant running cw using Hamlog through the Pigtail. For some reason I could 
not get my Zagg keyboard to pair with the iPad so typing calls on the 
touchscreen was a bit tricky. Eventually I managed to pair the Zagg and found 
the KPD. Apologies to anyone who worked me and I mistyped your call!

-90% of the contacts were on CW. I initially used my Heil Quite Phones and boom 
mic for SSB (on the theory to save space I could use the Heil Phones on the 
plane-less the boom mic). However, I could not get enough “oomph” from this 
setup despite it playing well at home. The MH3 worked much better. In 
retrospect, I should have taken the CM500 headset, but again was trying to save 
space. However, with QRP and simple antennas I find SSB to be a lot of work.

-The Pigtail worked well in ad hoc mode although it did eat two  9v batteries. 
I have a Piglet which I can power from a separate source (and it is smaller) 
for the next trip.

-KX3 ran flawlessly.

Most of all it was fun and allowed me to operate a few hours each day between 
other activities. The trail version of the End fed and coax fit into the bag 
and makes a nice package. I’ll post a few pictures of the setup on the V29SH 
QRZ webpage.

73

Tim VE6SH




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[Elecraft] KAT500 production firmware version updated to 1.41

2013-08-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
KAT500 firmware version 1.41 has been upgraded from Beta to Production.  The
updated features and link are here:
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm

 

Be sure to upgrade your KAT500 Utility version as indicated.

 

73 de Dick, K6KR



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[Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W

2013-08-05 Thread Arno Dienhart
So I had set up in the park, with a charged 12V 17Ah battery connected. It
was a hot day but I was in the shade.

 

Every time I set power level to 10W and keyed the TX, it reverted back to 5W
instantly. Why?

 

The Volt meter showed 12.3 V at RX and dropped to 11.7V at TX. Was that the
reason (getting below 12V)?

Was the PA getting too hot? It never went below 5W.

 

Thanks for any tips,

 

73,

 

Arno 

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[Elecraft] Lulu 20% discount for KE7X books

2013-08-05 Thread Cady, Fred
www.lulu.com 20% discount valid until 11:59 pm, 9 August: ARDENS20

73,
Fred KE7X
The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed
The Elecraft KX3 - Going for the summit
www.ke7x.com or www.lulu.com (Lulu 20% discount until 19 August: ARDENS20)
(Working on the KPA500 and KAT500)

Fred Cady
fcady at ieee dot org

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[Elecraft] K3 6 M QUIRK

2013-08-05 Thread k4pi
Wonder if anyone has seen the following problem.  Nothing that is keeping me 
off the air.  K3 is SN in the 1500 range.  It is fairly bare bones with just 
the IF OUT/RX ANT strip installed.  Also 100 watt module.  On 6 M I use a 20 DB 
preamp that is powered from and external power source the the RX ANT IN/OUT 
connects the preamp.  When adjust the transmitter power out, when I reach the 
point where the power meter scale changes from 0-100 watts to 1-10 watts the 
receiver gain drops by 20 db, the amount of the preamp.  It appears that the RX 
ant has been switched back to normal antenna input.  It becomes good again as I 
increase the output power to the point where the scale changes back to 0-100 W. 
 Weird indeed.  Normally I run above 10 watts on 6 M so no problem but this 
should not happen.  Elecraft techs suggest reseating the front panel.  I have 
another K3 , later serial number that does something similar but in reverse.  
When I cross the transmitter power scale change from 0-100 to 1-10 there is a 
very minor increase in the receiver gain.  I can see it on the P3 and just hear 
it in the speaker.  This amount not a problem to me but apparently something 
happens in the receiver circuit on 6 M when the power scale switches over.  
Other bands appear okay.  I know there was some kind of firmware patch way back 
to correct for transmitter power jumping from around 8 to 13 watts or something 
like that.  Don’t remember the exact numbers.  Before I pull the front panel 
any suggestions.  73 Mike K4PI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W

2013-08-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Arno,

The KX3 requires 11.0 volts minimum on key-down for power output levels of 
greater than 5 W. We do this to ensure low IMD in SSB transmit mode, but it's 
good practice in general because most 12-V batteries can be damaged quickly if 
you let the voltage go much below 11.0 with a heavy load applied.

When you measured the voltage on key-down, were you using a voltmeter at the 
battery, or the one in the radio? You could have been dropping some voltage 
across the power supply wires  (+ and - leads probably about the same), or in 
the KX3's DC input circuitry (reverse-polarity diode, current sense resistor, 
etc.). So even if you read 11.7 V, it's possible that you briefly dipped below 
that 11.0 threshold. 

Try running it into a dummy load, using the same battery. What is the voltage 
on key-down? (Make sure to bypass the ATU or tune it into the dummy load for 
this test.)

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:

 So I had set up in the park, with a charged 12V 17Ah battery connected. It
 was a hot day but I was in the shade.
 
 
 
 Every time I set power level to 10W and keyed the TX, it reverted back to 5W
 instantly. Why?
 
 
 
 The Volt meter showed 12.3 V at RX and dropped to 11.7V at TX. Was that the
 reason (getting below 12V)?
 
 Was the PA getting too hot? It never went below 5W.
 
 
 
 Thanks for any tips,
 
 
 
 73,
 
 
 
 Arno 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 vs K3 ATU

2013-08-05 Thread ke9uw
The K3 has values of reactance which are smaller in size than the KAT500.
Therefore there are some instances of antenna and frequency where the KAT500
cannot tune and the K3 can. In that case, you could place a reactance on the
feedline to bring the KAT500 into tune. You can find those values since both
tuners display their values when tuned (or are unsatisfactory tuned).



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W

2013-08-05 Thread Arno Dienhart
Hi Wayne,

I measured with the built-in meter. Sorry, I don't have a dummy load, so I
cannot test that. Next time I will connect two of the same sealed lead acid
batteries in parallel and see if something changes. No problem to use two.

Thank you for the explanation. At least I can be sure that nothing is wrong
with my KX3.

73,
Arno 

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 17:02
To: Arno Dienhart
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W

Hi Arno,

The KX3 requires 11.0 volts minimum on key-down for power output levels of
greater than 5 W. We do this to ensure low IMD in SSB transmit mode, but
it's good practice in general because most 12-V batteries can be damaged
quickly if you let the voltage go much below 11.0 with a heavy load applied.

When you measured the voltage on key-down, were you using a voltmeter at the
battery, or the one in the radio? You could have been dropping some voltage
across the power supply wires  (+ and - leads probably about the same), or
in the KX3's DC input circuitry (reverse-polarity diode, current sense
resistor, etc.). So even if you read 11.7 V, it's possible that you briefly
dipped below that 11.0 threshold. 

Try running it into a dummy load, using the same battery. What is the
voltage on key-down? (Make sure to bypass the ATU or tune it into the dummy
load for this test.)

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:

 So I had set up in the park, with a charged 12V 17Ah battery 
 connected. It was a hot day but I was in the shade.
 
 
 
 Every time I set power level to 10W and keyed the TX, it reverted back 
 to 5W instantly. Why?
 
 
 
 The Volt meter showed 12.3 V at RX and dropped to 11.7V at TX. Was 
 that the reason (getting below 12V)?
 
 Was the PA getting too hot? It never went below 5W.
 
 
 
 Thanks for any tips,
 
 
 
 73,
 
 
 
 Arno
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 production firmware version updated to 1.41

2013-08-05 Thread NW0M
I downloaded the latest Utility but the 1.41 FW version is not in the
Production Folder.  It still has 1.32.



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 production firmware version updated to 1.41

2013-08-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
My mistake.  I thought it had been promoted to production, and it has not as
yet.

I apologize for the churn.

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 18:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I downloaded the latest Utility but the 1.41 FW version is not in the
Production Folder.  It still has 1.32.



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Re: [Elecraft] Correction to August 4 SSB Net Results

2013-08-05 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
All, there is another correction to yesterday's Elecraft SSB results.  The
serial number of Bob's, VE3XM, K3 should have been reported as #409, not
#4608.  One of these days I'll take a penmanship class.  My apologies for
the mistake.

 

73,

 

-- Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK

Roswell, GA  EM74ua

 mailto:km4ik@gmail.com km4ik@gmail.com

K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468

HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

 

From: Ian Kahn - Ham [mailto:km4ik@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 6:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Correction to August 4 SSB Net Results

 

I was advised of a correction to the information below.  Dave,KJ6CBS,
checked in on K3 #4052, not 4652.  Unfortunately, I sometimes have issues
reading my own handwriting.  My apologies for the mix-up.

 

73,

 

-- Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK

Roswell, GA  EM74ua

 mailto:km4ik@gmail.com km4ik@gmail.com

K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468

HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

 

From: Ian Kahn - Ham [mailto:km4ik@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 3:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: SSB Net Results

 

All,

 

Here are the results of today's SSB net.  For a change, I had decent
conditions in the Atlanta area, with a noise floor only about S4.  We had an
active net today, with 39 total check-ins over a 40 minute period.  Special
thanks to John, N6JW, and Dick, N0CE, for relaying many of those check-ins
to me.  Here are today's check-ins:

 

KM4IK   Ian  GA  K3   281

VE3XM BobON K3   4608

AD5SX   Paul   NMK3   4645

W7NMD   Palmer  AR  K3   3779

W8OV   Dave  TX   K3   3139

KE5VDT RogerTX   K3   6054

K5EJKErnie  TX   K3   6733

N6JWJohn  CA  K3   936

AC8BT   B ruce   OH  K3   3958

WN4SLG  Doug TN  K3   3958

WW4JF John  TN  K3   6185

N0CE DickMNK3   5105

K6WDE Dave  CA  KX34599

KF5IMABruceMS K2   3575

K7JLT John  OR  K3   1301

N8SBE   Dave  MI  K3   3104

AG5S AldenNMK3   2427

W4RKS  Jim AL   K3   3618

KE5SZA John  OK  KX3725

W7QHDKurt   AZ   K2   1538

KD5J  Cord  AR  K3   7531

K6VWE Stan   MI  K3   650

N4TZH   DonFLKX33623

NS7P Phil OR  KX3268

K7BRR   Bill  AZ   K3   5545

W6NIA  Matt  CA  KX36

KC9USCRobert  IL XK34460

K9QJSHoop WA K3   6884

VE7EAR AlBC   KX33158

W0CZKenMNKX34275

K6CG/VE1   DickNS  KX3332

NC0JW  Jim CO  KX31356

W6ODJ OliverCA  K3   1741

KF7JZH  RonIDKX32262

KJ6CBS  Dave  CA  K3   4652

KL7UW Ed   AK  K3   4340

W7JJLJohn  WA KX3993

WN8A   Jim MI  K3   3480

N9RAT  Bob and Eric   IL TS-2000

 

Thank you to everyone for checking in and making today's net a success.
Have a great week, and talk to everyone next Sunday!

 

73,

 

--Ian 

Ian Kahn, KM4IK

Roswell, GA  EM74ua

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K3 #281, P3 #688, KPA500 #1468

HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 production firmware version updated to 1.41

2013-08-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
It's in ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/KAT500/firmware/beta/

FTP directory /KAT500/firmware/beta/ at ftp.elecraft.com 

06/11/2013 04:10PM106,108 kat500fw0141.hex
06/11/2013 04:10PM  7,716 kat500fwnotes.rtf

I'd use my browser to copy the two files to a local folder and point the KAT500 
Utility to that folder.

73 de Dick, K6KR

-Original Message-
From: Mitch 
 No problem.  Where is the beta zip file located?  I could only see the hex 
 file.  

From: Dick Dievendorff die...@comcast.net

My mistake.  I thought it had been promoted to production, and it has not as 
yet.
 I apologize for the churn.


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W

2013-08-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
Most likely your antenna load Z was on the low side, increasing TX current 
drain. Either excess TX current or supply voltage below 11 V can cause power to 
revert to 5 watts. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:

 Hi Wayne,
 
 I measured with the built-in meter. Sorry, I don't have a dummy load, so I
 cannot test that. Next time I will connect two of the same sealed lead acid
 batteries in parallel and see if something changes. No problem to use two.
 
 Thank you for the explanation. At least I can be sure that nothing is wrong
 with my KX3.
 
 73,
 Arno 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
 Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 17:02
 To: Arno Dienhart
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 power reverts from 10W back to 5W
 
 Hi Arno,
 
 The KX3 requires 11.0 volts minimum on key-down for power output levels of
 greater than 5 W. We do this to ensure low IMD in SSB transmit mode, but
 it's good practice in general because most 12-V batteries can be damaged
 quickly if you let the voltage go much below 11.0 with a heavy load applied.
 
 When you measured the voltage on key-down, were you using a voltmeter at the
 battery, or the one in the radio? You could have been dropping some voltage
 across the power supply wires  (+ and - leads probably about the same), or
 in the KX3's DC input circuitry (reverse-polarity diode, current sense
 resistor, etc.). So even if you read 11.7 V, it's possible that you briefly
 dipped below that 11.0 threshold. 
 
 Try running it into a dummy load, using the same battery. What is the
 voltage on key-down? (Make sure to bypass the ATU or tune it into the dummy
 load for this test.)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 
 On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Arno Dienhart a...@broadweave.net wrote:
 
 So I had set up in the park, with a charged 12V 17Ah battery 
 connected. It was a hot day but I was in the shade.
 
 
 
 Every time I set power level to 10W and keyed the TX, it reverted back 
 to 5W instantly. Why?
 
 
 
 The Volt meter showed 12.3 V at RX and dropped to 11.7V at TX. Was 
 that the reason (getting below 12V)?
 
 Was the PA getting too hot? It never went below 5W.
 
 
 
 Thanks for any tips,
 
 
 
 73,
 
 
 
 Arno
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 production firmware version updated to 1.41

2013-08-05 Thread Robert G Strickland
Has the firmware been corrected to enable manual selection of tuning 
parameters, via the utility, and then saving those values for later use 
during auto operation?


...robert

On 8/5/2013 18:57, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

KAT500 firmware version 1.41 has been upgraded from Beta to Production.  The
updated features and link are here:
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm



Be sure to upgrade your KAT500 Utility version as indicated.



73 de Dick, K6KR



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[Elecraft] KX3 12kHz audio spike

2013-08-05 Thread Nicklas Johnson
While doing some tests tonight to compare the white noise of my Icom
IC-7000 to the white noise of the KX3, both having the AF gain turned all
the way down, I noticed something a little unusual in the KX3's spectrum:

http://imgur.com/0QF9vXh

There is quite a spike of noise at 12kHz (well, relative to everything else
around it anyway), with harmonics at 24, 36, and 48 kHz.  The latter three
of course are inaudible to humans.  I found that even without the
considerable amplification that I was using to get the levels high enough
to analyze, I was able to hear the 12kHz tone in my headphones with the AF
gain turned up higher than 30 or so.

The sound is present even with everything else disconnected from the unit,
and it begins immediately after it is powered up, before it begins
receiving.

I could see it possibly giving someone fatigue or a headache after a while,
even if not consciously aware of it.

Has anyone else experienced this, or does anyone have the test equipment to
see whether this is present for others and not just me?

   Nick​
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