Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's linux utilities - somewhat OT, or maybe not
Why not just use that apple laptop? I can get a good 3-4 hours out of it if i kill everything i don't need, especially all radios. If i didn't run Windows in it (Parallels) for HRD - i'd probably get the advertised battery life. Is there no way to recharge it if need be? __ Slava (Sal) B, W2RMS w2...@arrl.net On May 29, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote: I am working on a low power computer system for field day. My approach is a Raspberry Pi board with a 12V HDMI display from Adafruit and a SignaLink for digital modes. The Pi should have enough horsepower for rig control and logging, but it may not hack fldigi. In that case I can go to more powerful boards like the Beaglebone. I have a strong suspicion that the Elecraft utilities Linux versions will not run on the Pi because it is based on an ARM processor and they are built for Intel x86 architecture. I am reluctant to ask Elecraft to spin versions for the various ARM processors, but might so bold as to ask for source to spin my own. My plan is to have my Mac handy with the working utilities and the configuration files in case I need to reload the K3 or P3. It's internal battery should last long enough in that application so I won't have to worry about its high current draw. BTW - The HDMI display would look really spiffy connected to a PX3. It will require some kind of adapter if the interface is SVGA. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV - Bill Frantz| The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)356-8506 | using a perimeter defense is a | 16345 Englewood Ave www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Los Gatos, CA 95032 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] BHI DSP Speaker for sale…new
I have a BHI DSP speaker for sale that has never been used. Comes with 3.5mm cable and fused power cable with PP connectors. $159 with free shipping. Replies off list please. Steve, W1SFR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] PA HOT
Once in a while, immediately after turning on K2 (SN 3500+ with all mods) I hit the CW key and get a: PA HOT message. Any thoughts what's going on here, rig is cold, so PA can't be warm. Cycling off 12v power seems to fix this? Thanks for forum help! 73 ed __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] PA HOT
Ed, The PA temperature has not been properly calibrated. Check the menu entry for CAL TPA. Turn the K2 off and let it acclimate to the ambient temperature, then set the value for CAL TPA to the room temperature in degC. If you do not have a thermometer that reads in degC, convert from Fahrenheit by subtracting 32, then multiply by 5 then divide by 9. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/30/2014 10:22 AM, Eddy via Elecraft wrote: Once in a while, immediately after turning on K2 (SN 3500+ with all mods) I hit the CW key and get a: PA HOT message. Any thoughts what's going on here, rig is cold, so PA can't be warm. Cycling off 12v power seems to fix this? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
Paul, Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only advantage is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage. IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode. Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering. I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to look at them - sort of like my own personal digest. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote: Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a sign up page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
I do the same thing: separate Elecraft folder in my Gmail-based google apps email. And I also made the filter to bypass the Inbox and only apply the Elecraft label (archive right away). This way my unread message count does not include the Elecraft messages. So whenever I have the time - I just navigate to the Electaft label and read whatever new messages had arrived. I find this approach less distracting. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Paul, Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only advantage is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage. IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode. Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering. I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to look at them - sort of like my own personal digest. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote: Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a sign up page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only advantage is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage. Not only that, but it creates much more work for you if you see something that you want to comment back on. You have to edit out all of the other messages and change the subject of your message, etc. It won't thread right with everyone else either, because your message ID won't be the same as the OP of that particular message your replying to. If there's more than one to reply to, the work is obviously multiplied again. Of course, we've all seen examples of those who don't bother to do any of that and just reply to the digest message with digest subject and all of the messages left intact. They go on the ignore list immediately. Single individual message filtered into a folder maintain the proper subject and message ID and will thread properly. You look through the Elecraft folder and kill what you don't want, keep what you do, and reply to what you want if you want to. Better housekeeping, and it doesn't cause extra work for others when your message doesn't thread right or have the right subject line. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code
It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. What gave you that idea? The bands were crowded back then. You had to look around to find an open spot, unless you were on 80 during the day or something like that. These days, there's all sorts of room on the CW bands. So much so, that the FCC has given much of it back to the SSB people. Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
Same here. I have three folders: * Elecraft * K3 KX3 Yahoo * QRP-L (plus others for non-ham purposes) The only slight hicup comes when someone posts a message to this list with [KX3] or [K3] in the title since those are the filter parameters I use for the second folder: No big deal, though. 73 -- Phil W7OX On 5/30/14, 8:54 AM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote: I do the same thing: separate Elecraft folder in my Gmail-based google apps email. And I also made the filter to bypass the Inbox and only apply the Elecraft label (archive right away). This way my unread message count does not include the Elecraft messages. So whenever I have the time - I just navigate to the Electaft label and read whatever new messages had arrived. I find this approach less distracting. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Paul, Using Digest will generate just as many messages, the only advantage is that it comes combined in one or two emails a day rather than as individual emails during that time, and I don't consider that a real advantage. IMHO using your email client to filter all your incoming emails and place them in one Elecraft folder is more sane to me than digest mode. Most all email clients offer that kind of filtering. I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. The posts remain there out of the way until I want to look at them - sort of like my own personal digest. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/29/2014 12:52 PM, Paul Grigorieff wrote: Sorry for this type of post, but I can't figure out how to convert over from Individual email status to Digest. If I use Help, I am taken to a sign up page. If I check off Digest there and hit Send, nothing changes. I'm drowning in the hundreds of Elecraft posts from the board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@socal.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Converting Indiv. Email Status to Digest Status
Thanks to the many who responded to my post. The instructions you gave me worked excellently, and the torrent of emails hitting my mailbox has now subsided to a gentle trickle, since Digest status has bn implemented. :-) -Paul, N1HEL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] 3rd time!
Ed, The PA temperature has not been properly calibrated. Check the menu entry for CAL TPA. Turn the K2 off and let it acclimate to the ambient temperature, then set the value for CAL TPA to the room temperature in degC. If you do not have a thermometer that reads in degC, convert from Fahrenheit by subtracting 32, then multiply by 5 then divide by 9. 73, Don W3FPR Hi Don, this would be the third time I've had to re-calibrate CAL-TPA! It's been changing on its own..maybe K100 possessed? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 3rd time!
... Hi Don, this would be the third time I've had to re-calibrate CAL-TPA! It's been changing on its own..maybe K100 possessed? ... As discussed in this old email thread, CAL TPA would be overwritten in my K2 after trying to TUNE on the wrong antenna: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/PA-gone-crazy-next-episode-and-solution-td367668.html -John AC6SL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] 3rd time!
Ed, The most common reason for CAL TPA to change on its own is if it is powered when the K2 is below zero degC - the value *should* go negative, but it instead goes to a very high number (255). If that is not the reason, I would look carefully at the KPA100 - possibly change Q3 and check the soldering of R5 and R6, then reset the bias on the PA transistors. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/30/2014 1:13 PM, Eddy via Elecraft wrote: Hi Don, this would be the third time I've had to re-calibrate CAL-TPA! It's been changing on its own..maybe K100 possessed? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to sla...@nullserv.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
-Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just implemented it here under Windows Live Mail. For some reason, this reflector has an inordinate number of off-topic posts. I guess the moderators (Elecraft crew) don't want to alienate their customers by clamping down too quickly on the OT posters, so people get carried away. Here are some OT threads, just from just the last two weeks: Learning Morse Code - 24 emails Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails Antenna Choices - 16 emails 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails PS2 is Dead - 12 emails U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period. We should all be more disciplined in posting things here, or maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an independent moderator. When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic posts, the signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it becomes easy to miss a good on-topic post. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
-Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students sing the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy mailto:sla...@nullserv.com sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com mailto:w...@w0mu.com mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
Dave, 100! agree - thanks - Tony, N3ME - 118 Ashwood Street Bethany Beach, DE 19930-9699 (302) 539-5638 Grid: FM28lm http://www.n3me.net Elecraft K3 # 2462 PVRC Member -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hachadorian Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 13:53 PM To: Reflector Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest? -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just implemented it here under Windows Live Mail. For some reason, this reflector has an inordinate number of off-topic posts. I guess the moderators (Elecraft crew) don't want to alienate their customers by clamping down too quickly on the OT posters, so people get carried away. Here are some OT threads, just from just the last two weeks: Learning Morse Code - 24 emails Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails Antenna Choices - 16 emails 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails PS2 is Dead - 12 emails U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period. We should all be more disciplined in posting things here, or maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an independent moderator. When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic posts, the signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it becomes easy to miss a good on-topic post. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ .. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@n3me.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] How to Convert Individ. Email Status to Digest?
I'm glad Elecraft users have other interests and all of the topics you mention below have some relevance to Elecraft and ham radio; one was even started by one of the Elecraft founders. Your definition of On Topic is a tad narrow :-) OTOH some of those threads did go on a bit long. On Computers in the Stone Age I fully expected to eventually hear from the inventor of the Abacus or the stone tablet! 73, Phil W7OX On 5/30/14, 10:52 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm I created an Elecraft folder under my Inbox, and set an Elecraft filter to put all email with [Elecraft] in the subject line into that Elecraft folder. That was an excellent suggestion Don! I just implemented it here under Windows Live Mail. For some reason, this reflector has an inordinate number of off-topic posts. I guess the moderators (Elecraft crew) don't want to alienate their customers by clamping down too quickly on the OT posters, so people get carried away. Here are some OT threads, just from just the last two weeks: Learning Morse Code - 24 emails Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails Antenna Choices - 16 emails 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails PS2 is Dead - 12 emails U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period. We should all be more disciplined in posting things here, or maybe the Elecraft guys can appoint an independent moderator. When the reflector gets flooded with off-topic posts, the signal-to-noise ratio gets so degraded that it becomes easy to miss a good on-topic post. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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One person's junk is another person's treasure. Of these, I'd only call three of them truly off-topic. I think the CW on 15 topic was started by Wayne, is it even possible for Wayne or Eric's posts to be off-topic. If we're going to eliminate topics like antennas, then I think the value of the list will truly suffer. As for the list mechanics, if it was a moderated list then a real, live person would have to approve each and every post, and the list would be very clean, and discussion very slow. 73 -- Lynn On 5/30/2014 12:43 PM, Tony McClenny wrote: Learning Morse Code - 24 emails Computers in the Stone Age - 40 emails 64 vs. 32 Bit Linux Utilities - 20 emails CW in 15 Meter Novice Band - 14 emails Antenna Choices - 16 emails 4 Meter Band - started ok, but then went way off - 22 emails E-Mail Spam Increase - 8 emails PS2 is Dead - 12 emails U.S Signal Corps Rhombic Book - 5 emails That's over 160 off-topic emails in a two week period. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Dick, thanks for the info! When you say key - do you mean straight key or paddles or is it irrelevant? I got my first paddles at Dayton, so that's all I have. The only Elmer with CW chops available to me is 15 years younger than I am :-) But I'm sure he will help me. Any chance you could do a Skype with me just so I can see/hear what you mean? Event for a couple of minutes. If a picture is worth 1000 words - then a video is worth a million. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students “sing” the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
When I started to learn CW 2 years ago, I started with paddles. Most people will say to start with a straight key. What starting with paddles and a keyer did for me is that I didn't have to worry about the correct length of dit and dah and could focus on characters/ words and spacing in between. This helped (me at least) to better get a good rhythm and made moving to a straight key easier for me. YMMV based on your personal preference. I used G4FON software to get me started and also made one key (no pun intended ) move in locking away the microphone. 73 de Michael K5TRI Sent from Windows Mail From: Slava Baytalskiy Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:46 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Dick, thanks for the info! When you say key - do you mean straight key or paddles or is it irrelevant? I got my first paddles at Dayton, so that's all I have. The only Elmer with CW chops available to me is 15 years younger than I am :-) But I'm sure he will help me. Any chance you could do a Skype with me just so I can see/hear what you mean? Event for a couple of minutes. If a picture is worth 1000 words - then a video is worth a million. Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 2:08 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: -Original Message- From: Slava Baytalskiy [mailto:sla...@nullserv.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:50 PM To: Dick, K2ZR Cc: W0MU Mike Fatchett; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. You rarely hear this because there are lots of folks out there who want to sell you CD's. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava, Make sure you engage an Elmer with a good fist so you start sending with the correct rhythm from the gitgo. When I teach, my students “sing” the rhythm of the character as they send it on a key. They sound [ sing ] it out, they hear it, they feel it and they get it! Dick, K2ZR Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
How come I have no problem with CW but I can't dance? Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Because you dance with your feet. Try QLF and you fill find your CW and dancing are about the same level. They are for me. Eric KE6US On 5/30/2014 1:59 PM, Tony Estep wrote: How come I have no problem with CW but I can't dance? Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/30/2014 6:18 PM, EricJ wrote: Because you dance with your feet. Try QLF and you fill find your CW and dancing are about the same level. They are for me. Eric KE6US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
I'm left-handed and I can square dance, but only because some guy up on the stage is telling me exactly what to do next. I also can't sing, however I can paddle CW with either hand and often do. My wife is right-handed and has yet to thoroughly master the concept of right vs left. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/30/2014 3:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Slava and others learning Morse ot trying to get better. Listen to all the advice you get, most of it is right on the money! But, when itch comes to scratch, scratch where it itches, which means that if the best advice you have is to do something that you don't want to do, do something else that you do want to do. The absolute worst thing you can do is to force yourself to do something you find odious. Anything you do with Morse is better than doing nothing. Keep it fun and if you don't want to do a particular thing, do something else. We have been practicing code for a long time and it does not work well. Sending and receiving information by Morse Code can be fun, should be fun and if you are having fun, you are learning and getting better. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:49 PM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com wrote: That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when you want to ask questions during on air practice. Good luck. Dave Higdon Jr KD4ICT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:w...@w0mu.com w...@w0mu.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to mailto:k...@arrl.net k...@arrl.net __ Elecraft
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
Well, in the four grade my Italian teacher would come down on my left hand with her 18 ruler every time I used my left hand. So by the time I got to 8th grade I could write my name equally poor with either hand. AS the result, I can send on a bug with either hand... Some can recognize my code sending, but only when I use my left hand. BTW, I taught code at Fort Gordon, GA. Signal School. It was VERY interesting to see the problems some had and with my background we were able to get most of them through the course. Mel, K6KBE On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:09 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: I'm left-handed and I can square dance, but only because some guy up on the stage is telling me exactly what to do next. I also can't sing, however I can paddle CW with either hand and often do. My wife is right-handed and has yet to thoroughly master the concept of right vs left. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 5/30/2014 3:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Being left handed and I guess 'left brained', I always had trouble with left and right. That caused me many demerits in the Army when I started cadence marches on the wrong foot, and for the same problem, I have trouble with dance steps. YMMV. There are other things I do well, so I consider it a minor handicap. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to farrerfo...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] P3 beta firmware 01.29
This version is a slight modification of 01.28, which added the noise blanker. The only changes are to the cursors in DATA A mode and another minor bug fix involving the FN1 label. It can be uploaded from the P3 beta web site: ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/firmware/beta/p3m0129.zip Un-zip the file into the directory that P3 Utility uses for firmware. Make sure you have the most recent version of P3 Utility (1.13.1.23). The p3fwnotes.rtf file lists the new features and bug fixes since the last official release. Below is some text I will be submitting for the P3 Owner's Manual to explain the new noise blanker feature. Alan N1AL = Noise Blanker The noise blanker in the P3 reduces the effect of impulse-type noise on the display. It has little or no effect on other types of noise such as thermal noise and static crashes but can dramatically reduce impulse noise from sources such as the AC power line and the ignition systems of motor vehicles. The noise blanker is turned on or off using the menu entry NB En which can be assigned to a function key for easy access. You can adjust the aggressiveness of the noise blanker algorithm with the menu entry NB Level. The higher the setting the more completely it blanks the noise but also the more likely it will cause distortion of desired signals. Use the lowest setting that effectively blanks the noise. A value of about 10 or 11 is a good starting point for experimentation. Note that the REF LVL and SCALE settings have no effect on the noise blanker. If there are one or more very strong signals within the P3 displayed frequency range, the noise blanker has a hard time detecting the difference between the unwanted pulses and the wanted signals. The solution is to narrow the span and/or offset the center frequency (perhaps using fixed-tune mode) to place the strong signals well outside the P3's display range. = __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
All this advice is good. However, code sound is a method of communicating that requires you to think of it as a language. Yes. Remember as a child we learned the ABCs then made words then constructed sentences. Code is the same thing. First you learn the sound of the letter. Then you start putting them together into words. The best operators the military service had, were the ones who learn the sound patterns as words. Albeit nonsensical 5 letter code groups are words with a sound. Each one is unique. The great ones could listen to the signal and type the letter without thinking about it. Like short hand, it is a learned automatic response. When you think you have problems coping code, try the random 5 letter code groups. It stops you trying to sound out the letters as words and concentrates on transferring them into groups of letters. One of the things that got most of the hard military trainees over the huddle in speed was to send them 5 letter code groups at the highest speed they were having trouble with and toss out the middle character. Yep, copy the first two skip the next then grab the last two. Before long they were filling in the blank Next speed please.. Mel, K6KBE On Friday, May 30, 2014 4:37 PM, WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote: Slava and others learning Morse ot trying to get better. Listen to all the advice you get, most of it is right on the money! But, when itch comes to scratch, scratch where it itches, which means that if the best advice you have is to do something that you don't want to do, do something else that you do want to do. The absolute worst thing you can do is to force yourself to do something you find odious. Anything you do with Morse is better than doing nothing. Keep it fun and if you don't want to do a particular thing, do something else. We have been practicing code for a long time and it does not work well. Sending and receiving information by Morse Code can be fun, should be fun and if you are having fun, you are learning and getting better. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart On Friday, May 30, 2014 12:49 PM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com wrote: That's interesting... I'm currently in the process of learning CW and this is the first time I heard of learn to send first approach. As I'm getting close to finishing the alphabet and can copy short 3/4/5-letter words - I'm starting to wonder how am I going to learn to send. Perhaps I should incorporate a sending session in my daily CW routine? Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com W2RMS On May 30, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Dick, K2ZR k...@arrl.net wrote: Hi All, I've taught many hams CW over the years my mantra is to first properly learn to send each character: There is a definite rhythm to each. Find a good Elmer with a quality fist to work with you. IMHO, learn to send 1st; know how it feels as the rhythm of of each character travels from your hand, up your arm into your brain. CW is a great dance once you've got it. Conversational CW at 25 WPM is fun, achievable and rewarding if you put your mind to it. Get on the dance floor get on-the-air and call CQ! CWops Academy: An excellent tool for learning CW is to participate online with the CWops Academy. Check out the link: http://www.cwops.org/cwacademy.html 73, Dick, K2ZR Niagara Frontier Radiosport FOC CWops Pounding Brass Since 1962 -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of W0MU Mike Fatchett Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Learning morse code It takes time. Proportionally more time to learn the code than it takes to become proficient. I can still remember sitting at the radio club meeting at our JR High school. Listening to the gibberish and then finally getting a whole word! From there on it was pretty simple. I am decent, certainly not conversational at CW. We had a Ham Radio club during our lunch hour at school because one of the teachers was a ham. One day he had one of the guys send some code. When it was over he took my sheet and graded it and said congratulations you just passed the 5 wpm code test. Smart guy. Knowing that some many people tense up for tests, he did it under relaxed conditions. One of my friends passed that day too. We both easily passed the theory and we got sequential calls. It is funny how cw seems to have far more activity now then when it was forced. Mike W0MU On 5/27/2014 12:22 PM, David Higdon wrote: Lee, Another option is CW Academy with the CW Ops club. They offer mentors along with on air practice. Also, there is the K3UK sked page where you can set up a sked and also do a computer chat. That is sometimes helpful when
Re: [Elecraft] Learning Morse Code is Like Learning to Dance
I was 14 years old when I got the ham bug, and found a HS class to learn for my Novice test. The instructor became my elmer, though that term was not yet invented. He allowed me to borrow the instructograph between weekly classes so that was my first practise. I produced clicking and not a tone, of course. Later I built my first receiver and was able to put into oscillation to work as a code practise oscillator using a straight key. So I alternated from listening to 40m CW to sending code to myself. I am sure that helped me start hearing words vs characters. First words I learned were: CQ. de, my call, test, name, RST, etc. I am not a great CW op and very rusty at more than 10wpm. But listening to 15wpm signals is the quickest way to get back up. I used to have a great fist at 18wpm on my straight key. I make a few mistakes these days! I bought a Bencher paddle but it is so foreign to me vs a straight key I just haven't mastered it. Perhaps if I used a keyer that allowed me to use it like a bug it would help. Iambic just is strange. http://www.kl7uw.com/kn8mwa.htm will give you a little trip to the good ole days! 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] How To Pass Your CW Test........
Subject: How To Pass Your CW Test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJGrlUXCZzc 73 de NS9I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WFallMkrs option for P3 SVGA
Looked in the manuals and on my P3 but can't find this. Is there an equivalent feature on the P3 SVGA option to get a marker line extending down into the waterfall? Tighe NK4I __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: Went to the Elecraft factory today
Been meaning to do that for quite a while. We had a nice tour of the factory (Thanks, Lisa!). It was interesting to see where the various products are kitted, assembled and burned in. An impressive operation, as one might expect. Also had the opportunity to meet one of the engineers, Matt (W6NIA). Interestingly enough, he and I have been trying to plan a date to meet for lunch. We live about 25 miles apart, and yet we met at Elecraft, probably close to 400 miles from home. :-) 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Internal Batteries for KX1
What do you use for internal batteries in your KX1? I just got my new (bought used) KX1 cleaned up, tuned up and running nice. It has the output power mod (changed 2 resistors) but with 6 internal 1.5V batteries the 1.4Watt output power is just too low for me. Be for the batteries are dead I'll be running QRPP. I want around 13V which give me 3Watts, but I really want internal batteries. The various formulations of 3.6V rechargable Lithium batteries look appealing but I've heard lots of stories about poor reliability. Any suggestions? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Internal Batteries for KX1
I use Lithiums, the non-rechargeable kind. Lighter weight, etc. If weight not a factor I use an external battery pack (ten AAs). Phil W7OX On 5/30/14, 6:50 PM, Bob via Elecraft wrote: What do you use for internal batteries in your KX1? I just got my new (bought used) KX1 cleaned up, tuned up and running nice. It has the output power mod (changed 2 resistors) but with 6 internal 1.5V batteries the 1.4Watt output power is just too low for me. Be for the batteries are dead I'll be running QRPP. I want around 13V which give me 3Watts, but I really want internal batteries. The various formulations of 3.6V rechargable Lithium batteries look appealing but I've heard lots of stories about poor reliability. Any suggestions? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Internal Batteries for KX1
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Re: [Elecraft] Internal Batteries for KX1
Bob, Lithium non-rechargeable AA cells will do quite well in the KX1. Just my personal opinion, but with no personal experience. I would not run rechargeable Lithium batteries inside any transceiver that was not specifically designed for them, and included a specific Lithium charger built in (like laptop batteries). I hear too many horror stories about Lithiums catching fire and that sways my opinion. Instead, I would suggest LiFePO4 batteries if you wish to install them inside the KX1. 4 3.2 volt cells will give you 12.8 volts when fully charged, so you will need 2 AA battery eliminators (AA sized dowels with a wire from one end to the other) to complete the circuit. If an external battery pack is a possibility, look at the Buddipole website for their A123 batteries. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/30/2014 9:50 PM, Bob via Elecraft wrote: What do you use for internal batteries in your KX1? I just got my new (bought used) KX1 cleaned up, tuned up and running nice. It has the output power mod (changed 2 resistors) but with 6 internal 1.5V batteries the 1.4Watt output power is just too low for me. Be for the batteries are dead I'll be running QRPP. I want around 13V which give me 3Watts, but I really want internal batteries. The various formulations of 3.6V rechargable Lithium batteries look appealing but I've heard lots of stories about poor reliability. Any suggestions? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com