Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
Vic, mostly it depends on where the item(s) are being sent to. I’ve been selling on eBay for over 12 years, and I DO ship overseas. However, when it comes to something really expensive, I opt not to do that for certain countries. There are parts of the world that have a very, very bad reputation for corruption in the postal system. Stuff is pilfered from the mail and delivery agents. As a seller, you are told by eBay / PayPal that you are protected against such things. In truth, it takes a LOT of effort to get reimbursed if something goes lost on it’s way to a foreign country. If an item is sent outside of the eBay / PayPal domain, getting re-imbursed is ever more difficult. And it is not just overseas shipping. Case in point - I sent a $500 classic postage stamp to a buyer in Texas a few years ago. It was an eBay transaction. I had sent it via USPS, with insurance, tracking number, etc. It disappeared. The buyer supposedly had told the PO to hold his mail while on vacation. The PO said they mistakenly delivered it and “someone” signed for it. It took me almost THREE MONTHS and a whole lot of paperwork to get my money back and then refund it to the buyer. It was an ugly process. Should something like that happen with an overseas shipment, good luck getting the PO in that country to own up to what happened or even respond to inquiries. Would I have a problem shipping to Canada, Great Britain, France, etc…? Probably not, But there are other places (un mentioned here) where I would not even consider shipping to. Anyway, that’s my viewpoint on it. :-) 73, Jim / W6JHB Folsom, CA On Thursday, Aug 20, 2015, at Thursday, 9:42 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO k2vco@gmail.com wrote: I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes. Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most countries by UPS or Fedex. As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids here, I just don't get it. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 20 Aug 2015 18:33, Arlen Fletcher wrote: I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w6...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
I also don't get it. Especially those who specify Continental USA or Lower 48. Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that in the rest of the US. Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the customs declaration. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/20/2015 12:42 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote: I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes. Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most countries by UPS or Fedex. As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids here, I just don't get it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Shipping ouitside the US etc
A while ago apiece of equipment was offered for sale on here as usual it was to US only. Anyway i offered to pay in full immediately and collect in 4 weeks time when i was in the US visiting relatives, i got quite an abusive reply asking what i did not understand about US shipping only. Oh and i offered to pay the full amount via PayPal+fees so the asking price was what he got without paying fees. Keith G0TSH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Stuck in Firmware Load Problem
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Re: [Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions
On Thu,8/20/2015 1:58 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote: Free doesn't hurt either !! While Elecraft has made some nice donations/loans of gear, last I looked, ICOM gave more freebies than Elecraft. But the experienced DXpeditioners started turning them down because the K3s blew them out of the water for phase noise and cleanliness of TX signals. This has been true with several trips I'm aware of, and the guys brought their own K3s when they couldn't get support from Elecraft. In addition to the performance advantages already noted, the RX in the K3 is far more bulletproof than in most other radios, and the K3s are both smaller and weigh less. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit - K3 ?
Hello, I'm optimizing the shack setup and taking a more careful look at hot switching; Antenna switching is managed through a couple of Microham Station Masters, which provide an Inhibit Output as cinch connector. So Inhibit will be set during any Antenna transtition to protect the switches, the PA etc. According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V. Question 1: Is that voltage OK to be connected to the Inhibit pin in the K3's ACC connector ? I prefer to ask before doing it. Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH. Anyone has experience ? Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ? Thanks Marco, HB9CAT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit - K3 ?
Refer to the owners manual for the TX inhibit signal page 19. The pin 7 can be configured for TX on OR TX inhibit. I'd suggest using two resistors as a voltage divider so the pin voltage is never above 5VDC per the manual. -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Marco HB9CAT Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 7:24 AM To: Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit - K3 ? Hello, I'm optimizing the shack setup and taking a more careful look at hot switching; Antenna switching is managed through a couple of Microham Station Masters, which provide an Inhibit Output as cinch connector. So Inhibit will be set during any Antenna transtition to protect the switches, the PA etc. According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V. Question 1: Is that voltage OK to be connected to the Inhibit pin in the K3's ACC connector ? I prefer to ask before doing it. Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH. Anyone has experience ? Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ? Thanks Marco, HB9CAT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] And one other thing about the K line . . .
While I can¹t contribute anything new to the question of new K3S vs used K3, the dilemma which started this thread, I would note one important advantage to being in the Elecraft club in addition to those already mentioned. That is this reflector. It is extraordinary as a source of knowledge, help, and advice, much in the finest traditions of amateur radio. I knew of nothing like it in my pre-Elecraft (Yaesu and many others) days. Thanks and a tip of the hat to everyone who participates. Ted, KN1CBR Message: 14 Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:22:28 - From: Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie To: ae...@carolinaheli.com, 'bs usb' bs...@k5dkz.com, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Message-ID: 611A636A17C5436B80BACEE9AFA0F354@DOUG1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. . . . To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping ouitside the US etc
I have sold and shipped lots of radio equipment all over the world. Why limit yourself to a few thousand buyers in the US only ? If you use Paypal and calculate the shipping costs beforehand there is never any problem. Dave N1IX -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Keith Hutt Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:20 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping ouitside the US etc A while ago apiece of equipment was offered for sale on here as usual it was to US only. Anyway i offered to pay in full immediately and collect in 4 weeks time when i was in the US visiting relatives, i got quite an abusive reply asking what i did not understand about US shipping only. Oh and i offered to pay the full amount via PayPal+fees so the asking price was what he got without paying fees. Keith G0TSH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@n1ix.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping ouitside the US etc
On 15-08-20 01:20 PM, Keith Hutt wrote: A while ago apiece of equipment was offered for sale on here as usual it was to US only. Anyway i offered to pay in full immediately and collect in 4 weeks time when i was in the US visiting relatives, i got quite an abusive reply asking what i did not understand about US shipping only. It is unfortunate that some people have problems with reading comprehension and didn't understand you were not asking for it to be shipped outside the US. Even if they didn't understand that, an abusive reply is uncalled for. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful! #include disclaimer/favourite | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3s or K3
I think we can quantify 2X improvements. We could take it literally as in twice as sensitive on receive. But that is meaningless because it doesn't add value to any radio when your noise floor is at -110 dbm. Perhaps we of the SDR era should place more value on features rather than enhancements. I can do 99% of what I do with my K3 with my Collins KWM-380. The big (2X) difference between the two is features. I would say that the K3 easily has twice the features of the Collins so yeah, in that respect, the K3 is 2X better. Does it make the K3 more capable than the Collins? No, of course not, if I only consider that each transmits a signal that can be heard and can hear a signal above that -110 dbm noise floor. So, K3 or K3s? I am keeping my K3. And the Collins. Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Shipping Overseas (Was: Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...)
I don’t ship overseas for one reason - I got screwed. I have no idea to what countries I can and cannot mail amateur radio equipment. Unfortunately, I mailed to a country with whom we are not allowed to mail such items. The receiving country did not accept it but they did damage it extensively. I got it back and the USPS would not honor the insurance (although they gave me a refund of the insurance) I bought because I mailed to a country with whom we cannot mail amateur radio equipment (I hope you noticed the fully circular monologue there - that’s a small amount of what I endured). They accepted it at our local PO but would not honor the insurance. All of this took about six months. You could argue that it’s my fault, but in my job, I am paid to inform others of the potential risks of their actions. I do take responsibility for my actions. I don’t claim fault with my actions though. I hope you understand the difference. For *that* reason, I *refuse* to send overseas. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt (and the months of paperwork) and the loss of equipment to prove it. I still use the USPS because they’re about the least expensive way to send items (UPS has almost doubled their prices over the past few months). I don’t use FedEx much because you have to look them in the face and say, “Pick that up and take it with you.” As for DHL… They have: 1. When no one’s around, left packages lodged in the barbed-wire around our office. 2. When no one’s around, thrown items over the fence. 3. When no one’s around, left items between the gate and gate post that either fall or get crushed. I thought DHL was out of business but just within the past week, they delivered one of my daughters’ textbooks to the house after 9:30PM (we go to bed earlier than that) in the rain. Luckily, the seller had wrapped the book in plastic a couple of times so we took no damage. I would’t ship an anvil with DHL afraid they’d find that magic rubber mallet and break it! Back to your regularly scheduled Elecraft information. 73, Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
Hi Arlen: I am greatly interested in the KPA500. I would get you to ship it to Elecraft for me, this way you don't have to fill out any special paperwork. Do you have any pictures available of the Amp and the area where the scratches are. Also is the KPAK3Aux cable available. Tnx. 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: I also don't get it. Especially those who specify Continental USA or Lower 48. Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that in the rest of the US. The seller here specified that he would pay standard surface shipping. Those costs are substantially higher to Alaska, Hawaii, and other US Territories. I can understand a limitation with regard to shipping. Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the customs declaration. Customs declaration is only a small part of the issue ... most sellers will get eaten alive by currency fees and there is no easy recourse if something goes wrong in an international transaction. It's one thing for me to ship a care package to my son in VE2 and entirely more of a risk to ship $2000 worth of goods somewhere in a developing economy - particularly ones that have histories of postal issues. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: I also don't get it. Especially those who specify Continental USA or Lower 48. Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that in the rest of the US. Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the customs declaration. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/20/2015 12:42 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote: I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes. Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most countries by UPS or Fedex. As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids here, I just don't get it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] SO2V K3 and N1MM+
Greetings, I'd like to hear from anyone who has successfully implemented SO2V using a K3 (with Sub RX) and N1MM+; especially for FSK RTTY. Off reflector is fine. 73 James K1SD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
I think improvement is a very subjective term :-) Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S On Aug 20, 2015, at 11:40, bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com wrote: I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w...@socal.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
The K2 is still in production, but it is not the same as the K2 started out. It too went through a major upgrade at SN 3000 - new boards with all the prior mods included as standard, and at that time you could no longer buy the older K2 from Elecraft anymore. Take a look at the FAQ for the K3S and you should see a parallel to the K2 upgrade at SN 3000, only the K2 designation was not changed when that happened. With the K3, Elecraft decided to upgrade the model number as well as the insides. And by the way, Elecraft still offers upgrade kits to bring an older K2 almost up to the electrical equivalent of a new K2 - the almost is that there are a few minor items that are not practical to upgrade (unless you replace the boards too). The situation with the K3 is similar. Elecraft offers (or will soon offer) upgraded modules that can be added to a K3 to bring it almost up to the same as the K3S. The new synthesizers are already available as is the KXV3B, and they are offering kits to upgrade the KBPF3 to the KBPF3A level. Yes, it is a Marketing Tactic, but instead of having a negative connotation, I believe it is a very positive one which says We will provide you the means to upgrade your older transceivers, and we will do that as long as possible and as completely as possible. Some parts for the Elecraft legacy gear (K2, K1, and KX1) are becoming difficult to source, but Elecraft has gone to great effort and expense to provide suitable substitutes. I have personally been involved in evaluating some of those part changes, such as the exercise needed when the blue wide range 1 to 40 pF trimmer capacitors were not longer available. That event shook up the entire legacy product line. I have known other companies to respond by simply dropping support and parts supplies. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/20/2015 2:40 PM, bs usb wrote: I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
The P3 has been spoken for. Thanks. Arlen - AA7F On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Arlen Fletcher arlenfletc...@mac.com wrote: I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! All gear is in proper working order and is from a smoke-free and animal-free home. The KPA500 has had one previous owner, and the AL-80B was an “open Box” purchase from DX Engineering. All the other equipment was purchased new and is being sold by the original owner. Photos are on my QRZ page (AA7F). I’ll pay for standard surface shipping, you pay the difference if you want expedited shipping. Payment accepted via cashier’s check only. Equipment details follow: Elecraft K3/100 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $2800 Includes: • KPA3 100W PA Module • KAT3 ATU Module • KXV3A RX Ant, IF Out, Xverter Interface • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz, 5-pole filter • KFL3A-400 400Hz, 8-pole filter • KRX3 2nd Rcvr • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz 5-pole filter for KRX3 • KFL3A-400 8-pole filter for KRX3 • Manuals included Elecraft P3 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, small scratch on the top surface of the front panel, no dents, $500 Elecraft KPA500 - purchased used within the last 2 months (minor cosmetic scratches on rear of top panel from previous owner) $1700 Non-Elecraft gear for sale: Ameritron AL80B amplifier - “Open Box” purchase from DX Engineering in 2014. The W8JI TOF module (http://www.w8ji.com/TOF1.htm) is installed in this amp. $850 Palstar HF-Auto antenna tuner - (S/N 231xx) purchased new from DX Engineering in Aug 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $1200 LP100A Digital Vector Wattmeter (S/N 040xx) w/ standard coupler - purchased new from Telepost in Sept 2014, Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $350 N3ZN model ZN5 Iambic Key, brass version, like new! (S/N 129) $275 73, Arlen - AA7F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arlenfletc...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Start here to see the new K3S features and which of them can be retrofitted to a K3. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S-FAQ%20rev%20C5%20customer.pdf wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Aug 20, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Nr4c n...@widomaker.com wrote: First, ever tried to buy a Brand New just made 2008 automobile or refrigerator or (you name the product) in 2015? It's not marketing, it's just business. The radio is different. New Main RF board, now 4 layers instead of 2, so should be quieter. Various bodges and mods have been built-in to the PCB (prob replaced by a whole new series of mods). There is a new one-piece bezel on the display (with an index pointer,: don't ask what for). Now, what is all this 2X about. Is this an indicator of new means 2 times the price of the old one. That's just not true. Yes the price is a little higher but the design is almost 8 years newer, and the NEW KXV3B has two preamps for 12, 10, and 6 meters that were not there before and it is included in the price (was around $140 I think). So I don't think the price is all that out of line. Now if you want the latest, it is available. But you can save some money by building a kit. Start simple and add as you find the need and cash. But, there are some good deals on used K3 radios out there and they are still very good radios. However if you are considering buying used and upgrading with some of the new modules developed for the K3S, compare the cost. The used rig you buy may not have the features you want, more money here. And the new modules cost money as well. I think you can almost buy the kit K3S for about the same as a K3 plus the mods and you will have to install the mods yourself, when they are available. I bit the bullet and sold my KX3 system and bought a K3S and kept my K3 for portable use. I'm glad I did what I did. I really like the S. I think you will too. Sent from my iPad ...bc nr4c On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:40 PM, bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com wrote: I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Based on feedback - Proposed purchase
Here's my shopping list for Shelby. The items in yellow are maybe items. Items that I will get IF I have the extra cash. The P3 is first then KAT500. Primary use: DX That brings up questions: 1. Since my antennas are resonant and I have an old MFJ tuner and swr meter around here somewhere; should I consider the subRX instead of the tuner? 2. IF I get the tuner should I go with the internal instead? I did external for the antenna switch but I'll likely use a mast/tower mounted remote switch. Note: I purchased a 400 Hz 8 pole used from the reflector so it's not on the list. K3S/100-K 100 W Transceiver, Kit KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw 2.8 kHz 8-pole upgrade from the standard 2.7 kHz 5-pole filter (New K3S, KRX3A orders only) P3-K Panadapter Kit for the K3S, K3 and other rigs KAT500-K High Power ATU, Kit SS30DV Compact Switching Power Supply, 14.1V, 25A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
Over the years I have sold a lot of ham gear on-line. I always stipulated lower-48 only and stuck to it. It was easier and more cost effective for me (the seller) and was my choice. That last part is very important - was my choice. I see no reason to drag Arlene over the coals for making that choice. Bill W2BLC K-Line __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3S OR K3
I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
First, ever tried to buy a Brand New just made 2008 automobile or refrigerator or (you name the product) in 2015? It's not marketing, it's just business. The radio is different. New Main RF board, now 4 layers instead of 2, so should be quieter. Various bodges and mods have been built-in to the PCB (prob replaced by a whole new series of mods). There is a new one-piece bezel on the display (with an index pointer,: don't ask what for). Now, what is all this 2X about. Is this an indicator of new means 2 times the price of the old one. That's just not true. Yes the price is a little higher but the design is almost 8 years newer, and the NEW KXV3B has two preamps for 12, 10, and 6 meters that were not there before and it is included in the price (was around $140 I think). So I don't think the price is all that out of line. Now if you want the latest, it is available. But you can save some money by building a kit. Start simple and add as you find the need and cash. But, there are some good deals on used K3 radios out there and they are still very good radios. However if you are considering buying used and upgrading with some of the new modules developed for the K3S, compare the cost. The used rig you buy may not have the features you want, more money here. And the new modules cost money as well. I think you can almost buy the kit K3S for about the same as a K3 plus the mods and you will have to install the mods yourself, when they are available. I bit the bullet and sold my KX3 system and bought a K3S and kept my K3 for portable use. I'm glad I did what I did. I really like the S. I think you will too. Sent from my iPad ...bc nr4c On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:40 PM, bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com wrote: I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
You can pay by PayPal in US dollars and even add the commission fee if the seller requests. Who gets eaten alive by currency conversion is the buyer, not the seller. With PayPal you have the same recourse regardless of the location of the buyer. And of course you can ask for payment in advance. Sure, in the US you can theoretically sue someone. Not practical for $2000. It is the buyer that takes the risk of local problems, but if he wants to pay the premium for UPS or FEDEX, then he can bypass the local postal service. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 20 Aug 2015 20:31, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: I also don't get it. Especially those who specify Continental USA or Lower 48. Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that in the rest of the US. The seller here specified that he would pay standard surface shipping. Those costs are substantially higher to Alaska, Hawaii, and other US Territories. I can understand a limitation with regard to shipping. Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the customs declaration. Customs declaration is only a small part of the issue ... most sellers will get eaten alive by currency fees and there is no easy recourse if something goes wrong in an international transaction. It's one thing for me to ship a care package to my son in VE2 and entirely more of a risk to ship $2000 worth of goods somewhere in a developing economy - particularly ones that have histories of postal issues. 73, ... Joe, W4TV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WTB KX1 from an European OM
Hi, Wanted to buy from Europe a used KX1. My preference to a KX1 with 8030 module and internal ATU included but will study all proposal :) Please answer outside this distribution list, to my personal mailbox. Thank you 73, -- Philippe Givet F5IYJ / NK2F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in designing the upgrades so that they can be used in the K3.Yes I would like the Porsche but will never spend the money on one! There are better things such as the K3S. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb Sent: 20 August 2015 18:41 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnb...@net1.ie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Dear B.S. . . . 1) Of course it's a marketing tactic. Businesses stay solvent /because/ of marketing tactics. What else is new and why be concerned about it? 2) The K2 is still in production because it's an entirely different radio requiring building skills rather than assembly skills. That appeals to some hams. 3) The K3S is an enhanced version of the K3. Only you, and not the reflector, can decide whether it meets your needs and fits your wallet. 4) How you would quantify 2x is beyond me. Two handles instead of one? 73, Kent K9ZTV On 8/20/2015 1:40 PM, bs usb wrote: I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in designing the upgrades so that they can be used in the K3.Yes I would like the Porsche but will never spend the money on one! There are better things such as the K3S. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb Sent: 20 August 2015 18:41 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? -- Frank-K5DKZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to turnb...@net1.ie __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to je...@carolinaheli.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 help
Hi Thaire, Is the message occurring in receive mode? If so, try plugging in headphones. This disables the speaker amplifier, which in theory could be a source of high current. Turn on the radio and immediately set AF GAIN to zero. If that allows the radio to stay on longer, tap DISP and rotate B to get to the voltage, current, and temperature displays. Write down the values, turn off the radio, and email the values to me directly. If the current is just on the edge of what is allowed in RX mode for some reason, you could try turning off some things, e.g.: MENU:RX ISO - OFF MENU:RX I/Q - OFF MENU:BKLIGHT - OFF PREAMP OFF HF BAND (2 m or 4 m draws more current) If this doesn't get current down to a usable level, open up the radio and try re-seating the flex circuit connectors at both ends. I'll wait up to hear from you. I have a few other things you can try based on your results above. 73, Wayne N6KR On Aug 20, 2015, at 10:30 PM, Thaire Bryant w2...@myfairpoint.net wrote: I am in the Timor Sea on board National Geographic ship Orion. Using C6APF/MM on board and VK6/W2APF when on land in Kimberly of Western Australia. Yesterday after making two QSO's into Japan on 17M while on land, I got a HI CUR message on KX3. I thought it might be heat and broke down. Just set up on shipboard and got the same message: HI CUR, three beeps and shut down. I had internal rechargables and was using a Lipo cell for power. I got the same message with and without the Lipo and with and without the rechargables. I did a quick check inside and can see no visible shorts. The radio was cool today having been in air conditioning just prior to set up. I get the same message with and without antenna connected, and with or without key attached. Any thoughts? Still have ten days to go and no back up. Thanks and 73, Thaire W2APF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KX3 help
I am in the Timor Sea on board National Geographic ship Orion. Using C6APF/MM on board and VK6/W2APF when on land in Kimberly of Western Australia. Yesterday after making two QSO's into Japan on 17M while on land, I got a HI CUR message on KX3. I thought it might be heat and broke down. Just set up on shipboard and got the same message: HI CUR, three beeps and shut down. I had internal rechargables and was using a Lipo cell for power. I got the same message with and without the Lipo and with and without the rechargables. I did a quick check inside and can see no visible shorts. The radio was cool today having been in air conditioning just prior to set up. I get the same message with and without antenna connected, and with or without key attached. Any thoughts? Still have ten days to go and no back up. Thanks and 73, Thaire W2APF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions
Yep, good performance. AND, they are light. I carry my K3 to the Caribbean in either my backpack or a Pelican case. 73 charlie, k1xx On 8/20/2015 4:22 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: Simple answer ... they are uequalled in performance! 73 Ken - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k...@k1xx.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions
Free doesn't hurt either !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken G Kopp Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:23 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions Simple answer ... they are uequalled in performance! 73 Ken - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to w1...@earthlink.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
Right, Don! If someone does not want to sell something to Alaska - its simple - I will not buy it (because they will not sell it to me - even when I pay the shipping). I still get ignorant questions like do we use US currency and do they need a passport to visit (AK became the 49th state of the US in 1959...duh). I do not live in an igloo and rub noses with my wife - either! Regarding sales to other countries that is something the individual will have to decide. I sell assembled DEMI kits world-wide (if the buyer can pay for the shipping). 95% of my transactions are via PayPal that automatically converts money into US funds (probably a charge but its buried in their std fee). I have had a couple hams from EU desire to pay with electronic transfer of funds but that is charged a monetary conversion fee. My CU does not do wire transfers so that required me to open a bank account in a bank offering this service (which cost me a opening fee). I did one sale that way (FT-847 for $1000 to Greece), but the buyer paid for all fees including International Priority Mail. It took a month to arrive - but he was happy with the purchase. It is quite expensive to ship to UK/EU from the US. DEMI transverters ship in the US Priority Mail for $11.80 (medium flat-rate box) and I add $9 for $500 insurance. To EU the same box+insurance cost $76.50. Don't even ask about UPS/Fedex. So I understand reluctance by UK/EU buyers to pay the shipping, but they face paying 17% Value Tax in EU-Union for products originating there. I use on-line USPS shipping which charges my PayPal and I get to print the prepaid label for my package. So all I have to do is drop off the package at the PO (no waiting). Customs forms are generated at the same time I fill out the postage and shipping info. In some areas in the US the Postal Service will pick up packages from your home/office. I have 37-foot of 1-5/8 inch Heliax hardline that a ham in NJ wants. It will coil into a 4-foot diameter and weighs 26-lb but that is too large to mail. Trucking from AK to NJ will be expensive. May not justify the cost of shipping. So it does depend on certain factors if it makes sense to buy/sell at a distance (even inside the lower-48). 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more... Message-ID: 55d60776.40...@embarqmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I also don't get it. Especially those who specify Continental USA or Lower 48. Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that in the rest of the US. Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the customs declaration. 73, Don W3FPR 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
To add to the list: if you're standing on Kingman Reef and the tide is rising, you probably want a rig that you know well. I'd bet most who activate rare DXCC locations have K3's at home, for many of the reasons stated. On 8/20/2015 1:34 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: Two things come to mind: 1. They are smaller and lighter than other high-end rigs, so easier to transport. 2. The transmit signals, especially CW, are much cleaner than other rigs, so two operators can transmit on the same band without interfering with each other. For example, CW and phone on 20m. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
I thought I would add my .02 cents worth. I have run into this problem several times and never argued the fact with the seller. In most cases, I would pass onto the seller that I wanted it shipped to the factory or service center in the US, this way the seller doesn't have any other paperwork to do. Also I have used Fedex and done all the paperwork for customs etc and then scheduled the pickup. I respect the wishes of the seller and no sense debating it with him as it is his choice on where he would like to ship it. I just try to meet the seller halfway or better. I have run into payment problems also a few times, I would prefer everyone used Paypal, but that is not the way for everyone. I have sent a cashiers cheque a few times and it hasn't worked out 100% due to bank regulations and procedures in the US. Good old Postal Money Orders always works though... 73 De Mike VE3YF http://www.ve3yf.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Savings made buying a K3 over K3S may not be that much. Seems that used K3 are going for 85-90% of new cost (depending a lot on accessories installed and age, condition, etc.). If you are then going to install the upgrades to make it close to a K3S, it might not be that much of a savings. One of the aspects of the K3 that helped my purchase in 2010 was resale value. I'm guessing that Elecraft decided to drop the K3 as the K3S is what most will want and production will be much easier with only one model to deal with. K2 was/is an entirely different radio than the K3 and was a true kit for those that wanted that challenge. But if you can find a K3 offered at 50% of the new cost - snap it up as you can resell it for 80% and make a nice profit! I have never seen one offered that low. 73, Ed - KL7UW To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Message-ID: 55d61f20.9020...@k5dkz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? k5dkz 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Doug you're such a fan boy!!! And I'll be right there with you after Sept 5th!! -Original Message- From: Doug Turnbull [mailto:turnb...@net1.ie] Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:22 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. We were comparing K3 and K3S so the TS59SG was a good starting point. Remember the standard K3 does not have dual watch; I think the TS590SG does so if one does not have the second receiver there is a disadvantage in the K3. However, I am a true blue Elecraft fan and am most pleased to have the K3. My only intent was to put things into perspective - $1800 is mucho money to some of our good friends. To me as well but I could spring to it if needed. I doubt that my K3 will work any DX station which a TS590SG could not also work. The differences between K3 and K3S are smaller still. Then Elecraft allows us to further narrow the gap with upgrades. Some features mean very little to me such as the ability to go below 160M. Everyone must make up their own mind but let us not expect a world of difference in results. To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 18:57 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in designing the upgrades so that they can be used in the K3.Yes I would like the Porsche but will never spend the money on one! There are better things such as the K3S. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb Sent: 20 August 2015 18:41 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
One other question I asked. Why do the majority of DXpeditions use Elecraft K3/S ? Lots of hardcore contesters? I'm not saying brand X isn't good. I'm just asking a question. It's not because the gear is cheaper. There are lots of cheaper rigs out there. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:22 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. We were comparing K3 and K3S so the TS59SG was a good starting point. Remember the standard K3 does not have dual watch; I think the TS590SG does so if one does not have the second receiver there is a disadvantage in the K3. However, I am a true blue Elecraft fan and am most pleased to have the K3. My only intent was to put things into perspective - $1800 is mucho money to some of our good friends. To me as well but I could spring to it if needed. I doubt that my K3 will work any DX station which a TS590SG could not also work. The differences between K3 and K3S are smaller still. Then Elecraft allows us to further narrow the gap with upgrades. Some features mean very little to me such as the ability to go below 160M. Everyone must make up their own mind but let us not expect a world of difference in results. To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 18:57 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in designing the upgrades so that they can be used in the K3.Yes I would like the Porsche but will never spend the money on one! There are better things such as the K3S. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb Sent: 20 August 2015 18:41 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Two things come to mind: 1. They are smaller and lighter than other high-end rigs, so easier to transport. 2. The transmit signals, especially CW, are much cleaner than other rigs, so two operators can transmit on the same band without interfering with each other. For example, CW and phone on 20m. These same reasons also make them great field day rigs. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) On Aug 20, 2015, at 1:13 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: One other question I asked. Why do the majority of DXpeditions use Elecraft K3/S ? Lots of hardcore contesters? I'm not saying brand X isn't good. I'm just asking a question. It's not because the gear is cheaper. There are lots of cheaper rigs out there. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:22 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. We were comparing K3 and K3S so the TS59SG was a good starting point. Remember the standard K3 does not have dual watch; I think the TS590SG does so if one does not have the second receiver there is a disadvantage in the K3. However, I am a true blue Elecraft fan and am most pleased to have the K3. My only intent was to put things into perspective - $1800 is mucho money to some of our good friends. To me as well but I could spring to it if needed. I doubt that my K3 will work any DX station which a TS590SG could not also work. The differences between K3 and K3S are smaller still. Then Elecraft allows us to further narrow the gap with upgrades. Some features mean very little to me such as the ability to go below 160M. Everyone must make up their own mind but let us not expect a world of difference in results. To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 18:57 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in
Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available
Thanks, Paul. I just loaded the new beta to my P3 (no SVGA) and it all seems to be working well with K3 s/n 4668 with latest firmware. I don't have any way to check the new transmit monitor trigger level because the K3 is my sole HF rig. 73, Steve W4FMD On 8/19/2015 6:35 PM, Paul Saffren wrote: This release adds features and fixes some bugs with the P3TXMON accessory board.We're trying to get this firmware into general release as soon as possible so even if you don't have the P3TXMON, you can still help us by loading this new firmware in your P3/SVGA. Please email me directly (pauls at you know where dot come) with any bugs/issues found. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available
Hi, I'm happy to report that all functions seem to be good on the SVGA. Averaging now works correctly, noise blanker as well, and the Y axis now rounds out at 10 dBm instead of 9. All functions appear to work from the API as well. 73 Tom va2fsq.com -Original Message- From: Steve Glickstein Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 11:13 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3/SVGA Beta 1.54/1.25 now available Thanks, Paul. I just loaded the new beta to my P3 (no SVGA) and it all seems to be working well with K3 s/n 4668 with latest firmware. I don't have any way to check the new transmit monitor trigger level because the K3 is my sole HF rig. 73, Steve W4FMD On 8/19/2015 6:35 PM, Paul Saffren wrote: This release adds features and fixes some bugs with the P3TXMON accessory board.We're trying to get this firmware into general release as soon as possible so even if you don't have the P3TXMON, you can still help us by loading this new firmware in your P3/SVGA. Please email me directly (pauls at you know where dot come) with any bugs/issues found. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! All gear is in proper working order and is from a smoke-free and animal-free home. The KPA500 has had one previous owner, and the AL-80B was an “open Box” purchase from DX Engineering. All the other equipment was purchased new and is being sold by the original owner. Photos are on my QRZ page (AA7F). I’ll pay for standard surface shipping, you pay the difference if you want expedited shipping. Payment accepted via cashier’s check only. Equipment details follow: Elecraft K3/100 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $2800 Includes: • KPA3 100W PA Module • KAT3 ATU Module • KXV3A RX Ant, IF Out, Xverter Interface • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz, 5-pole filter • KFL3A-400 400Hz, 8-pole filter • KRX3 2nd Rcvr • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz 5-pole filter for KRX3 • KFL3A-400 8-pole filter for KRX3 • Manuals included Elecraft P3 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, small scratch on the top surface of the front panel, no dents, $500 Elecraft KPA500 - purchased used within the last 2 months (minor cosmetic scratches on rear of top panel from previous owner) $1700 Non-Elecraft gear for sale: Ameritron AL80B amplifier - “Open Box” purchase from DX Engineering in 2014. The W8JI TOF module (http://www.w8ji.com/TOF1.htm) is installed in this amp. $850 Palstar HF-Auto antenna tuner - (S/N 231xx) purchased new from DX Engineering in Aug 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $1200 LP100A Digital Vector Wattmeter (S/N 040xx) w/ standard coupler - purchased new from Telepost in Sept 2014, Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $350 N3ZN model ZN5 Iambic Key, brass version, like new! (S/N 129) $275 73, Arlen - AA7F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit - K3 ?
Marco, I use a LM7805 voltage regulator to provide inhibit voltage to my K3 (accessory pin-7). Since I use a sequencer it defeats the inhibit voltage to enable transmit by grounding the voltage regulator thru a 1K current limiting resistor. But the simple voltage divider concept looks fine and may operate faster if you use QSK. You stated that Station Master provided +13v when inhibit is active. If so the proper setting in the K3 menu should be INH = HI. You are telling the K3 what level it should see when inhibited. I cannot offer any advice for the SteppIR; I'm using a 30-year old Hygain TH3mk4. 73, Ed - KL7UW Hello, I'm optimizing the shack setup and taking a more careful look at hot switching; Antenna switching is managed through a couple of Microham Station Masters, which provide an Inhibit Output as cinch connector. So Inhibit will be set during any Antenna transtition to protect the switches, the PA etc. According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V. Question 1: Is that voltage OK to be connected to the Inhibit pin in the K3's ACC connector ? I prefer to ask before doing it. Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH. Anyone has experience ? Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ? Thanks Marco, HB9CAT 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Based on feedback - Proposed purchase
David Shoaf and I will be manning the Elecraft booth at Shelby - come see us and we can assist you with your configuration. We will ask you questions about your operating style, desires and preferences, because those things influence your choice of options. We will be there for that kind of assistance, and we will have the K3S, P3, KPA500, and KAT100 there for you to touch and 'play with the knobs'. Look for the guys with dark blue Elecraft shirts and hats (unless we take the hats off). This year we will be in the air conditioned building. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/20/2015 2:47 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: Here's my shopping list for Shelby. The items in yellow are maybe items. Items that I will get IF I have the extra cash. The P3 is first then KAT500. Primary use: DX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. We were comparing K3 and K3S so the TS59SG was a good starting point. Remember the standard K3 does not have dual watch; I think the TS590SG does so if one does not have the second receiver there is a disadvantage in the K3. However, I am a true blue Elecraft fan and am most pleased to have the K3. My only intent was to put things into perspective - $1800 is mucho money to some of our good friends. To me as well but I could spring to it if needed. I doubt that my K3 will work any DX station which a TS590SG could not also work. The differences between K3 and K3S are smaller still. Then Elecraft allows us to further narrow the gap with upgrades. Some features mean very little to me such as the ability to go below 160M. Everyone must make up their own mind but let us not expect a world of difference in results. To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 18:57 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless you break the law. At 71 it will not help you pick up women either for that matter. Please do not take this as being critical in anyway.It is not. Some day I may purchase a K3S though it is hard to see why when I have two K3 fully loaded and KX3. The K3 has the new synthesizer boards - two in my case because of the second receiver. Elecraft has been very good in designing the upgrades so that they can be used in the K3.Yes I would like the Porsche but will never spend the money on one! There are better things such as the K3S. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of bs usb Sent: 20 August 2015 18:41 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X
[Elecraft] Why K3's are on most DXpeditions
Simple answer ... they are uequalled in performance! 73 Ken - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Microham Station Master Inhibit - K3 ?
According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V. Measure the current on the SM Inhibit jack. Early units sourced +12V across a 2K2 pull-down to inhibit in order to work with some early Yaesu rigs. Later units have changed the output to a 4K7 pull-up resistor to +12V and an NPN transistor that pulls the +12V to ground to transmit. If you see more than 3 mA on the Inhibit line, you have an early unit. The K3 Inhibit input is a 220 Ohm resistor to a port on the controller. The later versions of Station Master should be fine with it (3 mA max current) but if you have an early Station Master, I'd use a voltage divider or a series resistor and shunt 5.1V zener diode between the Station Master and K3. Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH. Anyone has experience ? Just like Yaesu, SM Inhibit provides +12V to inhibit and pulls the Inhibit line low to enable transmit (/Inhibit). Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ? PA PTT is inhibited during antenna tuning. Low power is still possible as is the case with SteppIR's own tuning relay. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/20/2015 7:23 AM, Marco HB9CAT wrote: Hello, I'm optimizing the shack setup and taking a more careful look at hot switching; Antenna switching is managed through a couple of Microham Station Masters, which provide an Inhibit Output as cinch connector. So Inhibit will be set during any Antenna transtition to protect the switches, the PA etc. According to the Microham manual this output is provided to be connected to Yaesu, TenTec and Elecraft transceivers; I was tempted to plug it directly into my K3, but I decided to measure the voltage on the Station Master's Inhibit out connector: it's 13V. Question 1: Is that voltage OK to be connected to the Inhibit pin in the K3's ACC connector ? I prefer to ask before doing it. Question 2: I assume Station Master's Inhibit is active when this signal goes to 0V, so K3's TX INH configuration shall be LO=INH. Anyone has experience ? Question 3: Station Master is controlling a SteppIR antenna: does Inhibit activate during the antenna tuning procedures ? Thanks Marco, HB9CAT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Jer, DXpeditions use K3/Ss for several reasons. One being the weight - shipping to far off places costs money. Second, the transmit phase noise is less than other transceivers. That allows them to operate CW and SSB on the same bands using stations in close physical proximity to each other without interference is possible. Experiences of many of you at Field Day sites with a variety of transceivers can give you examples of mutual interference between SSB and CW stations on the same band. With the K3, those problems just do not exist. Add to that the dynamic range of the K3 and the superb filtering provided by the roofing filters and the DSP filtering, and you should have your answer - the K3 performs well in crowded band conditions, and that includes picking a specific station out of a pileup. 73, Don W3FPR On 8/20/2015 4:13 PM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote: One other question I asked. Why do the majority of DXpeditions use Elecraft K3/S ? Lots of hardcore contesters? I'm not saying brand X isn't good. I'm just asking a question. It's not because the gear is cheaper. There are lots of cheaper rigs out there. Jer __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
The K3S and K3 also draw a lot less current than your average high-performance desktop radio, typically 900-1200 mA in RX mode. This can greatly extend operating time for lightweight DXpedition, RV, or Field Day stations that are battery powered. A few other features come into play during field operation: - four one-touch CW/DATA/voice message memory switches with auto-repeat (M1-M4) - up to 8 programmable front panel switch macros for doing things like VFO A-B, VFO B up 2 kHz, turn on split (etc.) with a single switch press; these can be customized for different kinds of operation - built in clock/calendar, voltage, and current display (on VFO B) - built in data modes for casual operation on PSK31 or RTTY without a computer (every Field Day, when I get tired of working CW or SSB, I'll prowl the 20-meter data sub-bands and work stations with the keyer paddle and message memories; you can also use the P3/SVGA with a keyboard) 73, Wayne N6KR On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Doug Turnbull turnb...@net1.ie wrote: Jer, Besides the points already mentioned the K3 will handle very strong nearby signals better than most other radios __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Jer, Besides the points already mentioned the K3 will handle very strong nearby signals better than most other radios. This really becomes important when everyone in the world is calling you over a few KHz in the case of CW. The point about clean output greatly helps in that the interference from other K3 radios on the same site is reduced. The problem is not so severe for most of us even in contests. There are many advantages to the K3 which do not need to be reiterated. For someone with limited budget the ability to start with a basic radio and add modules over time is also a big help. This last point has nothing to do with DXpeditions. Time to close. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 20:14 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 One other question I asked. Why do the majority of DXpeditions use Elecraft K3/S ? Lots of hardcore contesters? I'm not saying brand X isn't good. I'm just asking a question. It's not because the gear is cheaper. There are lots of cheaper rigs out there. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:22 PM To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Jer, I agree. If one were comparing companies then Elecraft comes out on top full stop - no argument. We were comparing K3 and K3S so the TS59SG was a good starting point. Remember the standard K3 does not have dual watch; I think the TS590SG does so if one does not have the second receiver there is a disadvantage in the K3. However, I am a true blue Elecraft fan and am most pleased to have the K3. My only intent was to put things into perspective - $1800 is mucho money to some of our good friends. To me as well but I could spring to it if needed. I doubt that my K3 will work any DX station which a TS590SG could not also work. The differences between K3 and K3S are smaller still. Then Elecraft allows us to further narrow the gap with upgrades. Some features mean very little to me such as the ability to go below 160M. Everyone must make up their own mind but let us not expect a world of difference in results. To twist slightly what you said; I am a fanatical supporter of a company which gives fanatical support.We are on the same track. Oh what a back slappers club we are. Cheers and enjoy your Elecraft. 73 Doug EI2CN -Original Message- From: Jerry Moore [mailto:je...@carolinaheli.com] On Behalf Of ae...@carolinaheli.com Sent: 20 August 2015 18:57 To: 'Doug Turnbull'; 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Doug, I just went through this process. The Kenwood TS590SG was on my list. AT the end of the day the deciding factors came down to support and upgradability. The Elecraft support is fanatical and as developments are made we have the option to update our radios (for the most part). If you already own a K3 you can progressively update the features you need to the latest technology. If you don't own one you can buy the latest version which reflects all updates and developments to date. You also get a warranty. You may not need the latest developments OR may be able to get a K3 and update only the things you need less expensive than a new K3S. I would ask how much your time is worth? The cost difference between the Kenwood and a likewise equipped K3S was around $1800 or so. When Kenwood comes out with a new version the value of the TS590SG will drop like a hot rock. If you look at the value of a used K3 VS what they were selling for prior to the release of the K3S has the value dropped by the same margin? From what I've seen the used K3 rigs are still fetching a premium AND they can be progressively updated. The Kenwood is probably just fine for some folks. Personally I want fanatical support and upgradability in addition to the bleeding edge of performance. Jer -Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Doug Turnbull Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:41 PM To: 'bs usb'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3 Hi Frank, I suspect the performance difference between the Kenwood TS590SG and K3 is at most 10%. The performance difference between the K3S and K3 is smaller still and you can upgrade the K3. Perhaps you do not care about bands lower than 160M.So purchase a K3 and maybe add the new synch card later. If you want the best of the best then purchase a K3S and pay much more. The used price of the K3 is no doubt dropping so it is good value. If you can afford the Porsche then go for it but it will not get you to the coffee shop any sooner unless
Re: [Elecraft] K3S OR K3
Frank, IMO the primary incremental improvement of the K3S over the K3 is the new Synth Board. And that can be retrofitted into the K3, as I did with mine some months ago. 73, Phil W7OX On 8/20/15 11:40 AM, bs usb wrote: I know there was a discussion on this subject. I ignored it because I was not interested in either radio. Recent events have me interested in either a K3S or K3. I know the K3 will have to be a used radio because new ones are no longer available. I am not sure why that is. Sounds like a marketing tactic. I believe the K2 is still in production. In any case a used K3 can be bought for significantly less than a new K3S. I am not convinced that the K3S 'improvements' are worth the extra expense. For instance, I don't need to be paying 2X for a 0.1X improvement. Of course if the performance does go to 2X over a K3, I might be convinced to pay 2X. So what was the conclusion of the discussion? Do we have a 2X improvement in the KS3 over the K3 or is it more like 0.1X? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...
I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes. Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most countries by UPS or Fedex. As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids here, I just don't get it. 73, Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO Rehovot, Israel http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 20 Aug 2015 18:33, Arlen Fletcher wrote: I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] FS K2-100
Nice K2-100 for sale with a lot of stuff.All mods updated, and ready to go.Call me at 978-710-9231 anytime. Have had a lot of interest but so sale yet. 73! Tomy KF7GC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
