[Elecraft] KIOB

[Richard - HB9ANM]

Don is right as usual. I, too, am very happy with my three USB interfaces
(K3, KPA500 and digital PTT), external sound card and 7-port USB hub.

Although I upgraded my two K3’s with a total of four KSYN3A’s and two
KXV3B’s, I decided not to order the KIO3B which “Eliminates need for
PC soundcard and cables”, i.e. would make all that stuff, which cost
about twice as much as one KIOB, “obsolete”.

YMMV...


73
Richard - HB9ANM





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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Gary]

Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to help 
reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm, that's a 
misnomer...
Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be delivered till 
the 1st quarter, 2016.
Guess he knows Eric well.

Sigh.waiting at the bottom of the list..
Gary 

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From: "Richard - HB9ANM" 
Sent: ‎17/‎12/‎2015 7:45 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: [Elecraft] KIOB


Don is right as usual. I, too, am very happy with my three USB interfaces
(K3, KPA500 and digital PTT), external sound card and 7-port USB hub.

Although I upgraded my two K3’s with a total of four KSYN3A’s and two
KXV3B’s, I decided not to order the KIO3B which “Eliminates need for
PC soundcard and cables”, i.e. would make all that stuff, which cost
about twice as much as one KIOB, “obsolete”.

YMMV...


73
Richard - HB9ANM





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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Hi Bill (and everyone else interested in the KIO3B upgrade),

Unfortunately pulling the KIO3B boards out of a packaged K3S kit or already 
built K3S is not practical, and would really cause production problems here. We 
build the assembled K3S base units ahead of time before option configuration, 
and for kits, the KIO3B boards are inside of sealed boxes of kitted product 
packaged ahead of time.


We are also fully maxed out getting December orders out the door for last minute 
shoppers, presents etc.


Fortunately, we will begin taking orders for the KIO3B board set the week after 
next - after the holiday rush. This will probably on either the 29th or 30th, 
and we expect to begin shipments 5-10 days after that. We should have the extra 
KIO3B boards in-house and tested by then.


Please do not try to order or call before we announce that the order form is up 
as we do not have the web order form or internal order systems ready to handle 
KIO3B upgrade orders. (We prefer on-line orders to avoid phone overload here..) 
We are also maxed handling the holiday order rush.


We will post here on the Elecraft List and of course on our web page as soon as 
we are ready to take orders and the order form is up and running.


We're running as fast as we can - Its a busy month at Elecraft this time of 
year.

73,
Eric
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On 12/16/2015 8:03 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

I feel a bit responsible for this thread and it needs to end. The issue for me 
is that my radio is at my place on J6 where my electronics lab is not. I have 
three options:  1. Bring the radio back and fix it, 2. Try to fix it down there 
(with very minimal resources), or 3. Bring a new part down with me to swap out 
and trouble shoot the broken part back here in the states.  Ordering a new KIO3 
would be less than smart.

I decided last night i would simply order a new K3s, tell Elecraft to hot shot 
the KIO3B out of it and keep the radio/ send the radio with a replacement KIO3B 
when they become available (months from now, i don't care).  Theres more than 
one way to skin this cat!


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
  
Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC
Staunton, Illinois



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[Elecraft] K3 Macros

[Larry Boekeloo]

Hi everyone,
I have two Macros set up to change the audio input on my K3 from the front 
panel to the Line In on the rear panel.
They worked fine until one of the latest big releases:
Macro 1: MNO53;DN;DN;DN;MN255:
Macro 2: MNO53;DN;DN;DN;UP;MN255:
Macro 1 sets the K3 to the mic connector on the front and Macro 2 sets the 
input to Line In on the rear panel.
When I execute them, they come up to the display and I have to rotate the dial 
to select the input.  Previously, they just worked.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Larry, KN8N

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Re: [Elecraft] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[Bill Frantz]

I used an iPhone earbud during the ARRL VHF contest. I used the 
MH3 microphone for SSB and the combination worked fine. After my 
wife Peri, KI6SLX brought my CM-500, I was even happier due to 
the better isolation from that set of headphones. (We had 3 
stations in one tent.)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/16/15 at 7:24 PM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote:

What I'm hoping to find is something like the iPhone headset 
but with two plugs (one for the headphone jack, one for the mic 
jack). The Logitech H165 fits the requirements but is very expensive.

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Re: [Elecraft] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

I've used the iPhone headset, but it does require an adapter. So far I haven't 
found an adapter that I like; they seem to be fragile or have a too-loose 
connection.

What I'm hoping to find is something like the iPhone headset but with two plugs 
(one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack). The Logitech H165 fits the 
requirements but is very expensive.

Wayne
N6KR

On Dec 16, 2015, at 7:18 PM, "J.K. Hooper"  wrote:

> Wayne, 
> 
> Sounds like you use an iPhone-like earbud w/mic with your KX3.   Whose 
> adapter cable do you use and what KX3 mic settings? 
> 
> 73, 
> Hoop
> K9QJS 
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 18:29 , Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Awhile back, Bill, KT5W, recommended the Logitech H165 "notebook headset" as 
> a decent stereo earbud+mic solution for ultraportable operation. The H165 has 
> two 3.5-mm stereo plugs -- one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack 
> -- some noise filtering, and a mute switch. It would appear to be ideal for 
> this application.
> 
> The one catch is that it's a bit pricey.
> 
> Anyone find a good alternative? For my minimalist go-bag, I'd like to stick 
> with this earbuds-plus-mic-on-cable form-factor. Large ear pieces won't fit.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Don Wilhelm]

Gary,

In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to 
do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we 
stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS 
principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.


Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands 
without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall 
so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those 
'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/16/2015 6:57 PM, Gary wrote:

Well, being that I am 24/7 in my Motorhome, I want the KIOB upgrade to help 
reduce the , dare I say, clutter at the back of my wireless. Hmm, that's a 
misnomer...
Santa has informed me he is running late and my KIOB will not be delivered till 
the 1st quarter, 2016.
Guess he knows Eric well.




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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Fred Jensen]

Hmmm ... a big problem for me is that cables seem to come in lengths 
that are almost universally too long.  I have a Wi-Fi dongle on top of 
the RemoteRig box with a 6 ft [1.83 m] Cat5 cable connecting it to the 
RR box, all of 1 inch [2.54 cm] below it.  Sadly an RJ-45 crimper is 
expensive and I'd use it a few times, probably all in one day, and never 
again.  The "USB" cable from the wall wart that powers the dongle is 
also 6 ft [1.83 m] long.  It only needs to be 6 in [15.24 cm] long. 
Nick of Pignology made me a short flat cable from the PigKnob interface 
to the K3 right below it, replacing about 8 ft [2.44 m].  I wonder if 
there is a market out there, every contemporary ham station I've seen 
gives lie to the term "wireless."


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org

On 12/16/2015 4:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we
stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS
principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.

Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands
without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.

73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,12/16/2015 4:49 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
a big problem for me is that cables seem to come in lengths that are 
almost universally too long.


One of the virtues of a cable with extra length is that it's easy to add 
a common mode choke to it by winding some or all of that excess length 
through a ferrite core.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macros

[Wayne Burdick]

Larry,

Menu support for the UP and DN commands was unintentionally removed a long time 
ago. It was added back in as of rev. 5.33.

I tested your macros, and they work with the latest release (5.38), except that 
you need two "UP;" commands to go from FP mic to LINE IN.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Dec 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Larry Boekeloo  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> I have two Macros set up to change the audio input on my K3 from the front 
> panel to the Line In on the rear panel.
> They worked fine until one of the latest big releases:
> Macro 1: MNO53;DN;DN;DN;MN255:
> Macro 2: MNO53;DN;DN;DN;UP;MN255:
> Macro 1 sets the K3 to the mic connector on the front and Macro 2 sets the 
> input to Line In on the rear panel.
> When I execute them, they come up to the display and I have to rotate the 
> dial to select the input.  Previously, they just worked.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks.
> Larry, KN8N
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Re: [Elecraft] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[Phil Hystad]

I use an iPhone headset for my KX3 all the time.  No problems.

Of course, don’t use a mic at all, just my Begali Magnetic Classic paddle and 
it plugs into the KX3 just fine.  Just real fine.  I mean really fine.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Dec 16, 2015, at 7:24 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> I've used the iPhone headset, but it does require an adapter. So far I 
> haven't found an adapter that I like; they seem to be fragile or have a 
> too-loose connection.
> 
> What I'm hoping to find is something like the iPhone headset but with two 
> plugs (one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack). The Logitech H165 
> fits the requirements but is very expensive.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 7:18 PM, "J.K. Hooper"  wrote:
> 
>> Wayne, 
>> 
>> Sounds like you use an iPhone-like earbud w/mic with your KX3.   Whose 
>> adapter cable do you use and what KX3 mic settings? 
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Hoop
>> K9QJS 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 18:29 , Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Awhile back, Bill, KT5W, recommended the Logitech H165 "notebook headset" as 
>> a decent stereo earbud+mic solution for ultraportable operation. The H165 
>> has two 3.5-mm stereo plugs -- one for the headphone jack, one for the mic 
>> jack -- some noise filtering, and a mute switch. It would appear to be ideal 
>> for this application.
>> 
>> The one catch is that it's a bit pricey.
>> 
>> Anyone find a good alternative? For my minimalist go-bag, I'd like to stick 
>> with this earbuds-plus-mic-on-cable form-factor. Large ear pieces won't fit.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KIOB

[Bob]

Hi Fred,

   No financial interest but one of the best sources I know of for 
cables is here:


http://www.l-com.com/

   If I have to "shorten" cables I fold them back on themselves and use 
wire ties to bundle that up.  Can dramatically reduce clutter and or Rats Nests.


73,
Bob
K2TK   ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 12/16/2015 7:49 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Hmmm ... a big problem for me is that cables seem to come in lengths that are 
almost universally too long.  I have a Wi-Fi dongle on top of the RemoteRig 
box with a 6 ft [1.83 m] Cat5 cable connecting it to the RR box, all of 1 inch 
[2.54 cm] below it. Sadly an RJ-45 crimper is expensive and I'd use it a few 
times, probably all in one day, and never again.  The "USB" cable from the 
wall wart that powers the dongle is also 6 ft [1.83 m] long. It only needs to 
be 6 in [15.24 cm] long. Nick of Pignology made me a short flat cable from the 
PigKnob interface to the K3 right below it, replacing about 8 ft [2.44 m].  I 
wonder if there is a market out there, every contemporary ham station I've 
seen gives lie to the term "wireless."


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2016
- www.cqp.org

On 12/16/2015 4:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:


In the "olden days", we did not have such clutter.  If one is willing to
do paper logging, there is no need for a computer connection and if we
stick to SSB and CW, we only need a microphone and a key - KISS
principle, and no extra cables except for the mic and key cables.

Problem is that we 'want it all', and so the cable clutter expands
without bounds as each additional device is introduced.
I am planning a new operating desk that can be pulled away from the wall
so I can access the rear of the equipment and hopefully keep those
'extra' cables neat and tidy.  It may be a while before that is realized.

73,
Don W3FPR


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[Elecraft] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi all,

Awhile back, Bill, KT5W, recommended the Logitech H165 "notebook headset" as a 
decent stereo earbud+mic solution for ultraportable operation. The H165 has two 
3.5-mm stereo plugs -- one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack -- some 
noise filtering, and a mute switch. It would appear to be ideal for this 
application.

The one catch is that it's a bit pricey.

Anyone find a good alternative? For my minimalist go-bag, I'd like to stick 
with this earbuds-plus-mic-on-cable form-factor. Large ear pieces won't fit.

Thanks,

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[Wayne Burdick]

Heck, while we're at it: Could the H165's mute switch be modified for PTT?  :)

Wayne

On Dec 16, 2015, at 6:29 PM, "Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com [KX3]" 
 wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Awhile back, Bill, KT5W, recommended the Logitech H165 "notebook headset" as 
> a decent stereo earbud+mic solution for ultraportable operation. The H165 has 
> two 3.5-mm stereo plugs -- one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack 
> -- some noise filtering, and a mute switch. It would appear to be ideal for 
> this application.
> 
> The one catch is that it's a bit pricey.
> 
> Anyone find a good alternative? For my minimalist go-bag, I'd like to stick 
> with this earbuds-plus-mic-on-cable form-factor. Large ear pieces won't fit.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Lightweight headset/mic solution for KX3?

[J.K. Hooper]

Wayne, 

Sounds like you use an iPhone-like earbud w/mic with your KX3.   Whose adapter 
cable do you use and what KX3 mic settings? 

73, 
Hoop
K9QJS 



On Dec 16, 2015, at 18:29 , Wayne Burdick  wrote:

Hi all,

Awhile back, Bill, KT5W, recommended the Logitech H165 "notebook headset" as a 
decent stereo earbud+mic solution for ultraportable operation. The H165 has two 
3.5-mm stereo plugs -- one for the headphone jack, one for the mic jack -- some 
noise filtering, and a mute switch. It would appear to be ideal for this 
application.

The one catch is that it's a bit pricey.

Anyone find a good alternative? For my minimalist go-bag, I'd like to stick 
with this earbuds-plus-mic-on-cable form-factor. Large ear pieces won't fit.

Thanks,

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Hand microphone

[Martin Storli - LA8OKA]

The Kenwood MC-43 gives much better audio quality than the MH2 on my K2. Martin 
Storli LA8OKAOslo, Norway  ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! 
http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm
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 Emne: [Elecraft] K2 Hand microphone
   
I need to get a hand microphone for my K2 and I have hear great things
about the Elecraft K2 MH2 and Kenwood MC43S. Which seems to be the better
microphone?
Thank you
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Jim Bolit]

You need raw material and labor to come together at the same time to build 
ANYTHING.

Henry Ford proved that some years ago.

It could be cash flow, marketing strategy, or other business reasons.

Jim

W6AIM




 Original message 
From: Merv Schweigert 
Date: 12/15/2015 6:15 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

Im sure they will come in some due time..

What is strange for some of us outsiders is the logic

We will have boards when the K3S demand is met?  sounds like there is not
enough money to buy more boards than what they expect K3S sales to be?
Ordering another few hundred extra of the boards would solve the problem
of not
having enough on hand.   Or is the supplier that slow?  Can they only
provide a
few boards a week?
Seems the K3 was funded partially by guys paying up front and having a 6
month
wait when this started years back,  I assume a lot of those are still
around and
willing to pay up front if money is that short now.
Stretching  some of this stuff out for a year or more does not help
business,  only
the most dedicated go for that idea.
Perhaps its a labor shortage/paying for more labor,  cant sell them yet
as no
instructions written,  or "testing" done?   Seems there are a number of
guys
willing to help out on that end.

So all the quiet and non fulfilled talk is just that,  talk,  just being
honest and
frank about whats up and why its not available would put to rest the
speculation
and angst that silence brews.

Not criticizing,  just wondering,  I need a couple and keep putting off
installing
KYSN3 boards in one radio,  its been apart for so many mods the screws are
wearing out,  had to replace them to keep it decent looking.  Had
chipped off
the black.

Which reminds me on another thing,  I have had lots of knobs crack on the K3
Elecraft has been super at replacing them,  the last ones I got have a
metal
insert and will never crack I assume,  but they are butt ugly, instead
of semi
shiny black knobs,  they are a dull black material that looks like
something that
came on some military piece of junk.  Not even a close match to the
other knobs.
Wazzup with this deal...

73 Merv K9FD/KH6





Jerry,
>
> You are correct, I am not going to speculate other than to say "it
> will happen sometime", but that may not be the end of this year as was
> projected back at Dayton in May 2015.
> I have no idea when that 'sometime' is because I have no information
> about the production capability of the board house supplying Elecraft
> with the KIO3B vs. the number of K3S units being ordered and shipped.
>
> When there are enough in house to supply both the K3S and the expected
> deluge of orders anticipated for K3 upgrades, then you will see the
> KIO3B offered for K3 upgrades.
>
> "The best laid plans of mice and men often go astray".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/15/2015 7:50 PM, Jerry wrote:
>> Nice try guys  but I don't think you are going to suck Don in on this
>> one
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Jerry
>> W1IE
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Don Wilhelm]

I am certain the money is not the problem - at least for Elecraft, but 
perhaps for their board house.

The boards are being populated by a board assembly house in California.
In order to increase their production of the finished boards, they would 
likely have to hire more people and purchase more equipment.
That is not a smart business move if the volume will taper off after the 
"crunch".
So we have to wait until things 'even out' before those boards can be 
available for K3 retrofit.


If a cookie manufacturer has capability of producing 100k cookies a day, 
but the holiday season customers want 125k cookies per day, do you think 
the manufacturer would increase the production facilities - especially 
if the demand would fall off to only 100k per day after the holidays?  
It is the same principle.


I am quite happy with the RS-232 interface for my K3 and already have 
the external soundcard working, so I will not be begging to get the 
schedule advanced.


73,
Don W3FPR



 Original message 
From: Merv Schweigert 
Date: 12/15/2015 6:15 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B


<>

We will have boards when the K3S demand is met?  sounds like there is not
enough money to buy more boards than what they expect K3S sales to be?
Ordering another few hundred extra of the boards would solve the problem
of not
having enough on hand.


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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

I feel a bit responsible for this thread and it needs to end. The issue for me 
is that my radio is at my place on J6 where my electronics lab is not. I have 
three options:  1. Bring the radio back and fix it, 2. Try to fix it down there 
(with very minimal resources), or 3. Bring a new part down with me to swap out 
and trouble shoot the broken part back here in the states.  Ordering a new KIO3 
would be less than smart.

I decided last night i would simply order a new K3s, tell Elecraft to hot shot 
the KIO3B out of it and keep the radio/ send the radio with a replacement KIO3B 
when they become available (months from now, i don't care).  Theres more than 
one way to skin this cat!


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> On Dec 16, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I am certain the money is not the problem - at least for Elecraft, but 
> perhaps for their board house.
> The boards are being populated by a board assembly house in California.
> In order to increase their production of the finished boards, they would 
> likely have to hire more people and purchase more equipment.
> That is not a smart business move if the volume will taper off after the 
> "crunch".
> So we have to wait until things 'even out' before those boards can be 
> available for K3 retrofit.
> 
> If a cookie manufacturer has capability of producing 100k cookies a day, but 
> the holiday season customers want 125k cookies per day, do you think the 
> manufacturer would increase the production facilities - especially if the 
> demand would fall off to only 100k per day after the holidays?  It is the 
> same principle.
> 
> I am quite happy with the RS-232 interface for my K3 and already have the 
> external soundcard working, so I will not be begging to get the schedule 
> advanced.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Merv Schweigert 
>> Date: 12/15/2015 6:15 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B
>> 
> <>
>> We will have boards when the K3S demand is met?  sounds like there is not
>> enough money to buy more boards than what they expect K3S sales to be?
>> Ordering another few hundred extra of the boards would solve the problem
>> of not
>> having enough on hand.
> 
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