Re: [Elecraft] BL2 Enclosure

[Brian Hunt]

Links are at the bottom of the Elecraft main page. Here's link to the BL2 case. 
http://www.w8fgu.com/bl2encl.html

Brian, K0DTJ

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 21:13, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> Just completed the assembly of the Elecraft BL2 balun. Nice unit, but I'm a 
> tad disappointed that there is no enclosure for it, optional or included. 
> Since there are exposed electronic connections on it, and because I'll be 
> connecting it to 450-ohm ladder line that handles line barbed wire, I hate 
> just having the BL2 flopping around.
> 
> A buddy of mine mentioned that he thought at one time there was someone on 
> this reflector who was offering an enclosure for the BL2. Does anyone here 
> have information on such an item? Or, has anyone here with a 3D printer 
> attempted building one?
> 
> Thx, 
> 
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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[Elecraft] BL2 Enclosure

[James Bennett]

Just completed the assembly of the Elecraft BL2 balun. Nice unit, but I'm a tad 
disappointed that there is no enclosure for it, optional or included. Since 
there are exposed electronic connections on it, and because I'll be connecting 
it to 450-ohm ladder line that handles line barbed wire, I hate just having the 
BL2 flopping around.

A buddy of mine mentioned that he thought at one time there was someone on this 
reflector who was offering an enclosure for the BL2. Does anyone here have 
information on such an item? Or, has anyone here with a 3D printer attempted 
building one?

Thx, 

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
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[Elecraft] FS K3

[Paul VanOveren]

K3, serial # 758
100 watt module
K3ATU   Automatic Antenna Tuner, provides 2nd antenna input
KRX3-F  2nd Receiver, Factory installed
KDVR-3  Digital Voice Recorder, Factory installed
K3DSP   DSP Board upgrades, Factory installed
KIO3  Digital IO Board, provides separate receive antenna input also
KFL3AMatching 250 KHZ CW filters  8 pole
KFL3AMatching 500 KHZ CW filters  5 pole
KFL3AMatching 2.7  KHZ SSB filters  5 pole

Cosmetically  9/10
Non smoking shack
Picturess available
Shipped CONUS only

$2500.00

NF8J Grand Rapids, Mi

616  541-3378
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Re: [Elecraft] A very desirable capability

[Walter Underwood]

That is a pretty good description of how the KX3 NR works right now, except it 
doesn’t have a graphic UI.

From the release notes for 1.47:

The RX NR menu entry can be used to adjust all three NR parameters (B=beta, 
D=decay, M=wet/dry mix). The M parameter now has a range of 0-10, matching the 
range available when the knob above the NR switch is used (see above). As 
before, all parameters can be adjusted separately for CW and voice modes. In 
most cases the factory default settings can be used for beta and decay, and the 
mix adjusted for the desired overall amount of NR using the knob (without using 
the menu). You can also now reset all NR parameters to factory defaults by 
holding CLR.

And from release 1.10:

RX NR x MENU ENTRY ADDED: Allows the user to customize receive noise reduction 
(NR). The letter appearing at ‘x’  in the menu entry name shows which parameter 
is being adjusted:  B (beta; tap ‘1’), D (decay; tap ‘2’), or M (wet/dry mix; 
tap ‘3’). The defaults are recommended, and this menu entry is locked to 
prevent accidental changes. The NR settings for CW are separate from those for 
voice modes. 
Using the RX NR menu entry:  Unlock the parameter by holding KHZ for about 3 
seconds; the VFO A lock icon will disappear. Then tap ‘1’, ‘2’, or ‘3’ to 
select a parameter to change. You can turn NR on/off while in the menu to test 
its effectiveness. 
The default beta is 5 for CW and 10 for voice modes. A lower beta will further 
reduce noise, but may attenuate weak signals. The default decay is 240. A much 
lower decay value will allow NR to track fading signals better, at the expense 
of somewhat worse noise rejection. The mix value determines how much of the 
signal is “dry” (unprocessed) vs. “wet” (processed). The default is 220 in CW 
mode and 250 in voice modes—essentially “all wet”. You might want to use a 
lower mix number to reduce the “hollow” sound or to minimize the effect of NR 
on weak signals.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
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> On Aug 22, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Peter Alterman  wrote:
> 
> Reading Drew's (AF2Z's) comment,
> 
> "The single most important feature that would get me to spring for a K4
> would be advanced noise abatement controls. I have little idea how the
> NR & NB work, but strictly from the user standpoint instead of scrolling
> through a small assortment of fixed presets I envision several
> continuously variable controls that would allow us to adjust the several
> noise limiting parameters. Perhaps having some kind of graphical display
> showing a dimensional representation of the noise parameter space and
> the noise itself would help in zeroing in on the best noise reduction..."
> 
> I wondered if such a graphical capability couldn't be created in software for 
> the current set of Elecraft radios?
> That would be a great way to make the NB/NR capabilities of the current 
> radios much more user friendly.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Peter W2CDO
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] [WTB] KPA500/KAT500

[MaverickNH]

WTB - KPA500/KAT500. Looking for current hardware versions, factory built,
excellent condition, no repairs made/needed. Please contact me off-list
cbjesseeNH (at) comcast (dot) net by 8/25/17. No replies after. Thanks.
Bret/N4SRN (Bedford, NH  USA)



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Re: [Elecraft] Link to my house listing

[donovanf]

Moving back to mt. Airy?

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From: Jack Colson jcols...@tampabay.rr.com
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Sent: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:00:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] Link to my house listing

http://matrix.mlscitrus.com/DE.asp?ID=93071622 
http://matrix.mlscitrus.com/DE.asp?ID=93071622;
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[Elecraft] Link to my house listing

[Jack Colson]

http://matrix.mlscitrus.com/DE.asp?ID=93071622 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Phil Kane]

On 8/22/2017 2:14 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> The California Highway Patrol holds on to their 47 MHz frequencies for the 
> same reason.

42 MHz.  Augmented by a whole system of VHF and UHF portables working
through in-car repeaters into and out of the 42 MHz network.
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC Connector on KXe

[Don Wilhelm]

Aaron,

The most likely cause is that the nut on the BNC jack has worked loose. 
It should be easy to tighten, although you will likely have to remove 
the 2 meter option (if you have it) and the KXAT3.

See page 25 of the KX3 Assembly Manual.
Use a wrench to tighten the nut, and while tightening the nut, put a BNC 
connector on the outside of the jack and hold it with pliers so you can 
torque the nut tight without damaging the BNC jack.


73,
Don W3FPR


On 8/22/2017 9:54 AM, Aaron K5ATG wrote:

The BNC Connector on my KX3 has become loose, is there a way to repair it?

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Re: [Elecraft] BNC Connector on KX3

[John Svihra via Elecraft]

If you mean the whole connector is loose on the KX3, you have to get inside and 
tighten the nut holding it on to the box.  I just did this, and it was easier 
than I thought.  You have to open up the radio and look where the connector is 
attached.  I had a 2-meter board and an ATU board underneath it, blocking 
access to the nut.  I had to remove these boards, and I was then able to use an 
end wrench to tighten the nut.  This was easy involving 5 screw/nuts. Details 
given in the KX3 assembly manual.  Be sure to remove all power and batteries 
before beginning.  Be careful of electrostatic charges in handling the boards 
and handle the attached cables carefully.
If you mean the inside connector of BNC itself, there is a tubular tool that 
slides inside to tighten or loosen this.  Search for BNC conector wrench or 
spanner.
JohnNL7VE

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  On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Aaron K5ATG wrote:   
The BNC Connector on my KX3 has become loose, is there a way to repair it?
Thank you
Aaron K5ATG
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Re: [Elecraft] A very desirable capability

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

One point I've observed is the fact the noise on a given band may not be 
the same from day to day, or week to week.  Thus I find it necessary to 
tweak the values of NR and NB for best performance. Same issues with 
band to band, i.e. what I need on 80M is no where close to what I need 
on 6M in terms of NR and NB.   And, the NR and NB are very different in 
their performance character in terms of handling noise artifacts.


One thing that also helps is to use minimum necessary RF gain and 
correct utilization of Attenuation.  Thus on 160M and 80M and to some 
extent 40M, I use 15 dB Attenuation and reduce the RF gain a wee bit.  
In doing so, the signals pop out of the noise.


A point to consider is optimum receiver performance occurs when the band 
noise floor is 10 dB to 15 dB above the receiver noise floor.  Since we 
can't really change the receiver noise floor, we must change what is 
arriving at the front end.  This means some degree of attenuation and RF 
Gain reduction is required.  For the math...if no signal band noise 
is -97 dBm or S-5 and the receiver noise floor is - 125 dBm, a 
difference of 28 dB, the receiver should have 15 dB of attenuation 
activated.   You can do the same with the RF Gain by reducing it about 3 
or 4 S units. Too much RF gain being utilized in an attempt to hear weak 
signals is not necessarily a good thing.  As one goes higher in 
frequency, usually band noise decreases and finally to a point where the 
PRE should be used.   In many cases I've heard hams describe the use of  
ATTN is to prevent receiver overload.  While true under some cases, most 
residential QTH locations and antennas won't encounter enough signal to 
overload the receiver.  Thus the ATTN function is more beneficial when 
used in correct receiving gain structure.


73

Bob, K4TAX



On 8/22/2017 4:11 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Peter,

Since "one size" does not fit all noise sources, I believe that what 
you suggest is not practical.
It may be that something could be done to provide the most useful 
noise reduction for "average noise", but the closest to that right now 
would be the default settings in the K3/K3S.


If you do not know what the default settings are, save your K3/K3S 
configuration, then do an EEINIT (Reset to Factory Defaults), then 
look at the NB and NR settings.  Finally load the saved configuration 
file and then set the NB and NR settings to the defaults that you 
recorded. Be aware that some of the settings are per band, so you will 
have to check them on each band.


That will give you a "one button" NB and NR as you might find in many 
other amateur transceivers.


I am glad that the K3/K3S offers adjustability for the NB and NR 
parameters.  It does take some study to learn how to use the 
parameters provided, but if you do that study, you will be rewarded 
with good noise reduction for most any type of noise.


73,
Don W3FPR



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[Elecraft] P3 - P3 Utility Command Tester - solved

[Fred Jensen]

I have solved my perceived problem sending commands to the P3.  It was 
indeed pilot error, coupled with age-related declining vision ... the 
 field in K3 and P3 commands is an exact template [which I knew] 
and I miscounted the number of leading zeros.  Enlarging the P3 Pgmr Ref 
PDF confirmed that the pilot can't see very well. Fortunately, if the 
print is big enough, he can still count.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Walter Underwood]

The California Highway Patrol holds on to their 47 MHz frequencies for the same 
reason.

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> The Tennessee Highway Patrol still maintains their state wide systems, base & 
> mobile, in the 48/49 MHz range for this reason. 
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/22/2017 9:25 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
>>> When you are operating purposely with relatively weak signals, as you go up
>>> in frequency, the signal loss is much worse when you pop over a hill into a
>>> small valley, which may be only a 20 to 50 feet difference in height,
>>> where-as the lower freqs seem to "fill-in" better.
>> 
>> UHF systems were so dominant in "flatland" Chicago that I didn't realize 
>> that systems in the low VHF region below 50 MHz existed. When I moved to 
>> California, I learned that these low VHF systems are widely used exactly 
>> because of this "fill-in" property, so necessary in the mountainous terrain 
>> of much of the state.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] A very desirable capability

[Don Wilhelm]

Peter,

Since "one size" does not fit all noise sources, I believe that what you 
suggest is not practical.
It may be that something could be done to provide the most useful noise 
reduction for "average noise", but the closest to that right now would 
be the default settings in the K3/K3S.


If you do not know what the default settings are, save your K3/K3S 
configuration, then do an EEINIT (Reset to Factory Defaults), then look 
at the NB and NR settings.  Finally load the saved configuration file 
and then set the NB and NR settings to the defaults that you recorded. 
Be aware that some of the settings are per band, so you will have to 
check them on each band.


That will give you a "one button" NB and NR as you might find in many 
other amateur transceivers.


I am glad that the K3/K3S offers adjustability for the NB and NR 
parameters.  It does take some study to learn how to use the parameters 
provided, but if you do that study, you will be rewarded with good noise 
reduction for most any type of noise.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/22/2017 4:07 PM, Peter Alterman wrote:

Reading Drew's (AF2Z's) comment,

"The single most important feature that would get me to spring for a K4
would be advanced noise abatement controls. I have little idea how the
NR & NB work, but strictly from the user standpoint instead of scrolling
through a small assortment of fixed presets I envision several
continuously variable controls that would allow us to adjust the several
noise limiting parameters. Perhaps having some kind of graphical display
showing a dimensional representation of the noise parameter space and
the noise itself would help in zeroing in on the best noise reduction..."

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Re: [Elecraft] A very desirable capability

[efortner]

I agree 100%

Earl, K4KAY


To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] A very desirable capability

Reading Drew's (AF2Z's) comment,

"The single most important feature that would get me to spring for a K4
would be advanced noise abatement controls. I have little idea how the
NR & NB work, but strictly from the user standpoint instead of scrolling
through a small assortment of fixed presets I envision several
continuously variable controls that would allow us to adjust the several
noise limiting parameters. Perhaps having some kind of graphical display
showing a dimensional representation of the noise parameter space and
the noise itself would help in zeroing in on the best noise reduction..."

I wondered if such a graphical capability couldn't be created in software
for the current set of Elecraft radios?
That would be a great way to make the NB/NR capabilities of the current
radios much more user friendly.

regards,

Peter W2CDO



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[Elecraft] A very desirable capability

[Peter Alterman]

Reading Drew's (AF2Z's) comment,

"The single most important feature that would get me to spring for a K4
would be advanced noise abatement controls. I have little idea how the
NR & NB work, but strictly from the user standpoint instead of scrolling
through a small assortment of fixed presets I envision several
continuously variable controls that would allow us to adjust the several
noise limiting parameters. Perhaps having some kind of graphical display
showing a dimensional representation of the noise parameter space and
the noise itself would help in zeroing in on the best noise reduction..."

I wondered if such a graphical capability couldn't be created in software for 
the current set of Elecraft radios?
That would be a great way to make the NB/NR capabilities of the current radios 
much more user friendly.

regards,

Peter W2CDO



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Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end this thread immediately, as it was already closed yesterday per my 
earlier list email below.


73,
Eric
Mooderator
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On 8/21/2017 4:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
I apologize for not replying to this topic earlier. I was off email for a 
large part of the weekend. :-)


While we appreciate the interest in switching the Elecraft List to a forum 
format, we can not watch all the topics in a multi topic forum. If there are 
web forum topics for every product we make, along with other topics, it will 
quickly be impossible for us to read and participate in all of them.  Also, 
we've observed that when lists like ours fragment into a multi-topic forum, 
they quickly lose the sense of community that we have here.  For those reasons 
we have always chosen to retain the list email format for the Elecraft list.


As noted before, for those that prefer a searchable web based display of this 
list threaded by topic or in calendar date order, the Nabble web based 
real-time archive of the Elecraft list does an excellent job of providing a 
web based searchable and organized copy of this list. This addresses the 
'forum' style need of most readers.


See:
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-f365791.topics.html

Many of our users use the Nabble web interface as their primary method of 
reading the Elecraft list.


Let's end this periodically recurring thread at this time.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

The Tennessee Highway Patrol still maintains their state wide systems, base & 
mobile, in the 48/49 MHz range for this reason. 

Bob, K4TAX


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 22, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
>> On 8/22/2017 9:25 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
>> When you are operating purposely with relatively weak signals, as you go up
>> in frequency, the signal loss is much worse when you pop over a hill into a
>> small valley, which may be only a 20 to 50 feet difference in height,
>> where-as the lower freqs seem to "fill-in" better.
> 
> UHF systems were so dominant in "flatland" Chicago that I didn't realize that 
> systems in the low VHF region below 50 MHz existed. When I moved to 
> California, I learned that these low VHF systems are widely used exactly 
> because of this "fill-in" property, so necessary in the mountainous terrain 
> of much of the state.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Jim Brown]

On 8/22/2017 9:25 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

When you are operating purposely with relatively weak signals, as you go up
in frequency, the signal loss is much worse when you pop over a hill into a
small valley, which may be only a 20 to 50 feet difference in height,
where-as the lower freqs seem to "fill-in" better.


UHF systems were so dominant in "flatland" Chicago that I didn't realize 
that systems in the low VHF region below 50 MHz existed. When I moved to 
California, I learned that these low VHF systems are widely used exactly 
because of this "fill-in" property, so necessary in the mountainous 
terrain of much of the state.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

6M FM mobile operation tends to be less bothered by hill & valley drop out.
We have done extensive testing here in the Washington * DC area using 52,
146, 223 & 449 FM with identical mobile antennas & power out, communicating
directly with home stations.  A separate wide coverage 220 repeater was used
to coordinate the testing.
When you are operating purposely with relatively weak signals, as you go up
in frequency, the signal loss is much worse when you pop over a hill into a
small valley, which may be only a 20 to 50 feet difference in height,
where-as the lower freqs seem to "fill-in" better.
 Admittedly we did not do any testing in a metro environment, where the
higher freqs (440?) may yield better coverage due to building reflections.
Our testing was performed strictly in open country of Maryland and no.
Virginia. 
   
73, Charlie k3ICH

* Potomac Area VHF Society, tests done in the early 70's

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 11:54 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

No problem if you come to Alaska.  Most 6m activity is 50 - 50.300,
52.525 and one repeater in Anchorage on 52.81 (51.11 input) which is not
usable 100km (65 mi) south of Anchorage using a 24-foot high J-pole (only
20% quieting) and requires over 100w to access.

In my opinion 6m ground-wave s**ks when compared with 2m or 222.  Anchorage
has a 224.94 (223.34) repeater that runs S9 over the same path.  Propagation
on 222 often exceeds that on 2m (we get frequent inversion layer wx).  I run
30w on 222 FM with a new Bridgecom radio (traded my 222-28 transverter since
there was no CW/SSB activity).  I have a 150w amp on 222 for those that use
only a HT and "wet noodle" antenna.

222 is the "overlooked" ham band by mfr's - a real shame!

BTW the KX3 works very well on 6m (receive sensitivity with PRE on
comparable with my K3+PR6).  It drives the KXPA100 just as nicely (even
nicer with remote control line  using the KXAT100 for mobile HF/6m).

73, Ed - KL7UW


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Edward R Cole]

No problem if you come to Alaska.  Most 6m activity is 50 - 50.300, 
52.525 and one repeater in Anchorage on 52.81 (51.11 input) which is 
not usable 100km (65 mi) south of Anchorage using a 24-foot high 
J-pole (only 20% quieting) and requires over 100w to access.


In my opinion 6m ground-wave s**ks when compared with 2m or 
222.  Anchorage has a 224.94 (223.34) repeater that runs S9 over the 
same path.  Propagation on 222 often exceeds that on 2m (we get 
frequent inversion layer wx).  I run 30w on 222 FM with a new 
Bridgecom radio (traded my 222-28 transverter since there was no 
CW/SSB activity).  I have a 150w amp on 222 for those that use only a 
HT and "wet noodle" antenna.


222 is the "overlooked" ham band by mfr's - a real shame!

BTW the KX3 works very well on 6m (receive sensitivity with PRE on 
comparable with my K3+PR6).  It drives the KXPA100 just as nicely 
(even nicer with remote control line  using the KXAT100 for mobile HF/6m).


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] WTB KBT1 internal battery option

[John]

I just found one. Boy that was quick.

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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 10:46 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] WTB KBT1 internal battery option

I know it is a shot in the dark but... Anyone have this K1 option they would
consider parting with. Please e-mail off list and thank you for your time.

John K2JHU...

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

[Michael Babineau]

Drew et al : 

The only solution that I can think of that comes close to meeting the criteria 
you mentioned is perhaps Groups.IO.  Many Ham Radio related Yahoo Groups have 
migrated to Groups.IO (including one that I own) and
it has a number of options including email, email digest as well as web-only 
and it has threading based on topic to make facilitate following a 
conversation.  
One nice feature is the ability to create sub-groups that members of the main 
group may choose to subscribe to, which is great for reducing the load on a 
busy group that may have 
discussions on topics that not all members are interested in. Also it has Wiki 
cababilites as well as storage for photos and files and the usual calendar with 
notification options and polling as well. 
The plus over Yahoo is that their search capabilty actually works properly ! 

Migration from Yahoo to Groups.IO is painless but I suspect that it would take 
a fair bit of work to migrate from a list-server such as this group over to 
Groups.IO and I am not sure you could preserve the 
existing postiing history very easily, which is a downside. 

Cheers

Michaell VE3WMB  

>From: Drew AF2Z >
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?
>Date: August 21, 2017 at 3:37:38 PM GMT-4
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>Reply-To: pu...@af2z.net 


>Main difference to me is that with mail reader software I can use keyboard 
>exclusively. Web forums require mouse pointing/scrolling/clicking which gets 
>on my nerves very quickly. But for some people the mouse is easier.

>The only solution is a good software solution that combines listserv with 
>forum. This still does not exist. In the meantime there's no point trying to 
>convince people that their particular preference must be wrong.


>73,
>Drew
>AF2Z
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[Elecraft] WTB KBT1 internal battery option

[John]

I know it is a shot in the dark but... Anyone have this K1 option they would
consider parting with. Please e-mail off list and thank you for your time.

John K2JHU...

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Andy McMullin]

Yup,

I’ve just checked and my KX3 goes up to 54.000 and no further — but at least it 
doesn’t stop at 53.000 MHz so it would work fine for the Australian 50 - 54 MHz 
band plan.

Andy




> On 22 Aug 2017, at 14:40, Raymond Sills  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's certainly a strange situation, reaching the "band edge" at 53 MHz.  I'll 
> have to admit, I've never tuned up that high in the band to see if I have the 
> same situation with my KX3.  I know that there are a number of repeaters here 
> in EPA, and I'm sure some must be using that last MHz of the band.
> Historically, 6 meter repeaters grew to be popular in this area (near Philly) 
> for mobile FM operation, because there were no over-the-air TV stations on 
> Channel 2, and that would afford a 6 MHz buffer zone between that upper end 
> of 6 meters and the Channel 3 station... a luxury not enjoyed by areas that 
> did have a station on TV Channel 2.
> 
> 
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Walter Underwood 
> To: Elecraft 
> Sent: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 12:22 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans
> 
> The original poster is in Australia. He’d be thrilled to hit a 6 m repeater 
> in Cincinnati, but that might not be his primary use. :-)It appears that VK 
> has permission to use 50-54 MHz, so I’m not sure why that isn’t working. The 
> KX3 will work at 54 MHz. Maybe an e-mail to supp...@elecraft.com 
> ?http://www.wia.org.au/members/bandplans/data/documents/Background%20-%206%20metres%202014.pdfwunderK6WRUWalter
>  UnderwoodCM87wjhttp://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) 
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[Elecraft] BNC Connector on KXe

[Aaron K5ATG]

The BNC Connector on my KX3 has become loose, is there a way to repair it?
Thank you
Aaron K5ATG
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

[Raymond Sills]

It's certainly a strange situation, reaching the "band edge" at 53 MHz.  I'll 
have to admit, I've never tuned up that high in the band to see if I have the 
same situation with my KX3.  I know that there are a number of repeaters here 
in EPA, and I'm sure some must be using that last MHz of the band.
Historically, 6 meter repeaters grew to be popular in this area (near Philly) 
for mobile FM operation, because there were no over-the-air TV stations on 
Channel 2, and that would afford a 6 MHz buffer zone between that upper end of 
6 meters and the Channel 3 station... a luxury not enjoyed by areas that did 
have a station on TV Channel 2.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211





-Original Message-
From: Walter Underwood 
To: Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Aug 22, 2017 12:22 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Band Plans

The original poster is in Australia. He’d be thrilled to hit a 6 m repeater in 
Cincinnati, but that might not be his primary use. :-)It appears that VK has 
permission to use 50-54 MHz, so I’m not sure why that isn’t working. The KX3 
will work at 54 MHz. Maybe an e-mail to supp...@elecraft.com 
?http://www.wia.org.au/members/bandplans/data/documents/Background%20-%206%20metres%202014.pdfwunderK6WRUWalter
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Re: [Elecraft] Make this email list more manageable - a forum instead?

[Mike Watterson (K3MAW)]

Don,

I do something very similar with my gmail account.  I don't use an email
client, just the web interface.  Having the Elecraft emails its own folder
makes it very easy to scan the subjects for topics of interest.

Mike - K3MAW

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> John,
>
> Actually, I consider using individual emails the easiest way to deal with
> the Elecraft reflector as well as any other email lists and my
> subscriptions to Yahoo groups.
>
> I detest signing onto each message group using a browser.
> My email client (I use Thunderbird), will sort the emails from each group
> into individual folders I have created for each group (Yes, you have to use
> filters to do that).  The messages flow into their own folder leaving my
> inbox clear of all but personal messages and gives me my own "digest" of
> the recent email messages for each group.  I can deal with them as I have
> time.
>
> Recent suggestions to move this list to a forum style would cause me to
> "go away" - sorting through a forum style is cumbersome and not productive
> IMHO.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/19/2017 9:00 AM, John AE5X wrote:
>
>> I don't know why so many people insist on making use of this list in the
>> most difficult way possible - by receiving individual emails or via the
>> daily summary email...
>>
>> A far easier way is to just look periodically (daily, hourly)  at the
>> list of messages here:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2017-August/date.html
>>
>> and click on the topics that are of interest to you. Turn off the email
>> delivery function of list postings entirely - your "Delete" key will thank
>> you.
>>
>> John AE5X
>> http://ae5x.blogspot.com/
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>> It's not easy to manage, especially with the increasing number of products
>>>
>> all lumped in.
>> 
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