Re: [Elecraft] Beep

2017-11-15 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
SW TONE won't silence it?

>From page 65 of the KX3 Owner's manual:

'... Switch press tones are enabled by default. Using the
SW TONE menu entry, you can turn tones OFF,
ON,..." 

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Herr
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep

Any hope of killing the beep?

this is an old issue.since a lot of changes are in beta maybe this could
be considered?




In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor:

When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep.

Even with the headphones plugged in, the speaker does a beep.

When I am up late at night this is problematic.

Is there a way to turn off the "beep"





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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff
Herr
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 16:13 PM
To: 'Wayne Burdick'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep

That is a no go.


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From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 14:07 PM
To: Jeff Herr
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep

This may be due to a switch emulation command being sent. If so, you could
set MENU:SW TONE to OFF.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Jeff Herr  wrote:

> In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor:
> 
> When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep.
> 
> When I am up late at night this is problematic.
> 
> Is there a way to turn off the "beep"
> 
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[Elecraft] [K2] On initial Power-up, '"INFO 201" Remains

2017-11-15 Thread Dan, K7DJK via Elecraft
Need some help here.

Been working on my K2 S/N 7770 and got to the point where power is first 
applied.

Upon pressing the Power button, got the INFO 201 message, but it just remained 
on the display.  It never went away and I never saw the ‘7100.00c’.

Turned power off and then cycled it back on.  Now, the display is simply blank. 
 Nothing.

I reset the K2 (pressing 4-5-6 then powering up), and the INFO 201 came up 
again with the same symptoms.

Would appreciate any thoughts on what might be happening.

73,
Dan, K7DJK

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Re: [Elecraft] Beep

2017-11-15 Thread Jeff Herr
Any hope of killing the beep?

this is an old issue.since a lot of changes are in beta maybe this could
be considered?




In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor:

When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep.

Even with the headphones plugged in, the speaker does a beep.

When I am up late at night this is problematic.

Is there a way to turn off the "beep"





-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jeff
Herr
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 16:13 PM
To: 'Wayne Burdick'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep

That is a no go.


-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2016 14:07 PM
To: Jeff Herr
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Beep

This may be due to a switch emulation command being sent. If so, you could
set MENU:SW TONE to OFF.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 28, 2016, at 7:22 PM, Jeff Herr  wrote:

> In regard to the Elecraft Frequency Memory Editor:
> 
> When using the QSY capability the KX3 does a beep.
> 
> When I am up late at night this is problematic.
> 
> Is there a way to turn off the "beep"
> 
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[Elecraft] SignaLink USB has sold

2017-11-15 Thread George
SignaLink has sold. Thanks everyone. 
73 George wb5xx 

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[Elecraft] FS- RemoteRig RRC -1258MkIIs

2017-11-15 Thread Jack Satterfield
RemoteRig RRC -1258MkIIs with cables for K3/0

This is for the RRC Control Unit (has the CW control knob)

$200 mailed

Jack

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[Elecraft] FS:SignaLink USB F/K3/KX3

2017-11-15 Thread George
Never used. Including all cables. $90 shipped. 
Thanks. George wb5xx 

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[Elecraft] DC insertion into antenna coax

2017-11-15 Thread Dauer, Edward
I would be careful about running DC through the coax.  Rapid rise and fall 
times of the DC voltage can generate RF spikes, and the collapse of the field 
in a DC relay if there is one at the business end can produce high 
instantaneous voltages back down to the rig end of the feedline. 

There are diode and capacitor-based circuit protections that can prevent this, 
but those phenomena were the prime suspects for why a remote antenna switch 
using DC inserted into the coax blew away the PA transistors and associated 
circuitry three times in a K2, until I trashed the switch.  I can’t describe 
exactly what the protection circuits are, though as I recall they are pretty 
simple.  Should be something in the archives about it from a couple of years 
ago.  

Ted, KN1CBR
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:42:19 -0800
From: Steve Sergeant 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3
Message-ID: <1c1e1830-5ccc-d81e-5da7-8c2594673...@effable.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hmmm. That means that it should be trivial to make a DC-blocking circuit
that would allow you to pull the ring of J3 to DC (and not RF) ground
over the coax to initiate tuning. Then you would have part of the remote
control puzzle solved.

That's nearly enough to finally get me to buy a T1.

 


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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
Indeed, that has been done (also by me) and works fine. 
http://www.jtmiller.com/t1_tuner_project.html
The only drawback by the insertion of a bias tee could be that the path for 
discharging static charges on the antenna is interrupted.

73, Heinz HB9BCB


> Am 15.11.2017 um 19:42 schrieb Steve Sergeant :
> 
> Hmmm. That means that it should be trivial to make a DC-blocking circuit
> that would allow you to pull the ring of J3 to DC (and not RF) ground
> over the coax to initiate tuning. Then you would have part of the remote
> control puzzle solved.
> 
> That's nearly enough to finally get me to buy a T1.
> 
> 
>> On 11/15/17 10:29 AM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
>> Understood.
>> The T1 manual indicates that you can manually initiate tuning remotely by
>> pulling the ring of J3 to ground, so running an extra control line from the
>> operating position to the remote T1 could work.
>> It also details the protocol for sending band info to the T1 to recall the
>> previous tuner settings on a per band basis. The special cable for the
>> FT-817 uses this.
>> The KX2 can be configured to send the current band out its serial port as a
>> CAT command. I imagine one could build a device using an Arduino or similar
>> to grab that CAT band data and send it to the T1 when requested Might
>> be a fun project for someday. So many project ideas, so little time...
>> 73 de W0ZF
>>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:11 AM Barry N1EU  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, different use case.  All my KX's have the internal tuner.  But I was
>>> thinking of an antenna configuration which would benefit from having a T1
>>> mounted away from the operating position.
>>> 
>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dave Fugleberg 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2,
>>> since
 I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the
>>> KX2. I
 have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
 And it works very well.
 Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
 different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
 tuner is the way to go.
 On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi <
>>> heinz.baerts...@bluewin.ch>
 wrote:
 
> It is correct understood, Barry.
> 
> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
>> 
>> I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work
>>> with
> my
>> KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
>> re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
>> setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the
> KX2
>> or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune
>>> process
> but
>> it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I
> wouldn't
>> be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
> only
>> do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
> with
>> an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable
>>> is
>> NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
>> 
>> Do I have this right?
>> 
>> Thanks & 73,
>> Barry N1EU
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Steve Sergeant
Hmmm. That means that it should be trivial to make a DC-blocking circuit
that would allow you to pull the ring of J3 to DC (and not RF) ground
over the coax to initiate tuning. Then you would have part of the remote
control puzzle solved.

That's nearly enough to finally get me to buy a T1.


On 11/15/17 10:29 AM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
> Understood.
> The T1 manual indicates that you can manually initiate tuning remotely by
> pulling the ring of J3 to ground, so running an extra control line from the
> operating position to the remote T1 could work.
> It also details the protocol for sending band info to the T1 to recall the
> previous tuner settings on a per band basis. The special cable for the
> FT-817 uses this.
> The KX2 can be configured to send the current band out its serial port as a
> CAT command. I imagine one could build a device using an Arduino or similar
> to grab that CAT band data and send it to the T1 when requested Might
> be a fun project for someday. So many project ideas, so little time...
> 73 de W0ZF
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:11 AM Barry N1EU  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, different use case.  All my KX's have the internal tuner.  But I was
>> thinking of an antenna configuration which would benefit from having a T1
>> mounted away from the operating position.
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dave Fugleberg 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2,
>> since
>>> I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the
>> KX2. I
>>> have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
>>> And it works very well.
>>> Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
>>> different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
>>> tuner is the way to go.
>>> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi <
>> heinz.baerts...@bluewin.ch>
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It is correct understood, Barry.

 73, Heinz HB9BCB



> Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
>
> I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work
>> with
 my
> KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the
 KX2
> or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune
>> process
 but
> it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I
 wouldn't
> be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
 only
> do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
 with
> an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable
>> is
> NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
>
> Do I have this right?
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] P3 died...Is there one available in Reno, NV???

2017-11-15 Thread Jim Shepherd
Just got off the phone with Elecraft and they gave me a RMA, but they don't
have a P3 loaner available... I will be working the SS this weekend and I'm
in need Is there anyone in the Reno area who will not be working the
contest who has one with the SVGA card that I could borrow for the weekend?
Please contact me off list.  Thanks!!! 73 Jim Shepherd, W6US
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Dave Fugleberg
Understood.
The T1 manual indicates that you can manually initiate tuning remotely by
pulling the ring of J3 to ground, so running an extra control line from the
operating position to the remote T1 could work.
It also details the protocol for sending band info to the T1 to recall the
previous tuner settings on a per band basis. The special cable for the
FT-817 uses this.
The KX2 can be configured to send the current band out its serial port as a
CAT command. I imagine one could build a device using an Arduino or similar
to grab that CAT band data and send it to the T1 when requested Might
be a fun project for someday. So many project ideas, so little time...
73 de W0ZF
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:11 AM Barry N1EU  wrote:

> Yes, different use case.  All my KX's have the internal tuner.  But I was
> thinking of an antenna configuration which would benefit from having a T1
> mounted away from the operating position.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dave Fugleberg 
> wrote:
>
> > Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2,
> since
> > I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the
> KX2. I
> > have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
> > And it works very well.
> > Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
> > different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
> > tuner is the way to go.
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi <
> heinz.baerts...@bluewin.ch>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is correct understood, Barry.
> >>
> >> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work
> with
> >> my
> >> > KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> >> > re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> >> > setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the
> >> KX2
> >> > or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune
> process
> >> but
> >> > it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I
> >> wouldn't
> >> > be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
> >> only
> >> > do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
> >> with
> >> > an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable
> is
> >> > NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
> >> >
> >> > Do I have this right?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks & 73,
> >> > Barry N1EU
> >> >
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[Elecraft] : FS- SignaLink USB for K3 SOLD

2017-11-15 Thread w4grj
SOLD

Jack

W4GRJ

 

From: w4grj [mailto:w4...@satterfield.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:32 AM
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SignaLink USB forK3, includes K3 cables $85 mailed

please email inquires offline  w4...@arrl.net

Jack

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / K3S Filters Available

2017-11-15 Thread Doug Hensley
Sorry, I did not mention the plots nor how many poles they are:


You can see the current filter bandwidth plots at:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_filter_plots.htm

 Of these, what I have available for the K3 or K3s are:

Two each 2.7 kHZ 5 Pole filters; list 139.95 sell 100.00 each;  (OEM SSB)


Two each 1.8 kHZ 8 Pole filters; list 149.95 sell 119.95 each;  (wide data)


Two each 1.0 kHZ 8 Pole filters; list 149.95 sell  119.95 each;  (wide CW)


The filters are less than 6 months old and hardly used.  You can buy one or more

of these with confidence.  They are guaranteed to be as I describe.


No paypal; simple personal check or money order (for faster shipping).  
Shipping is

a flat $10 for one or more via USPS Priority Mail with tracking & some 
insurance.


To hold one or more: email me direct <<  W5JV @ HOTMAIL.COM >>.


Cheers,


Doug W5JV














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[Elecraft] FS- SignaLink USB for K3

2017-11-15 Thread w4grj
SignaLink USB forK3, includes K3 cables $85 mailed

please email inquires offline  w4...@arrl.net

Jack

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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Barry N1EU
Yes, different use case.  All my KX's have the internal tuner.  But I was
thinking of an antenna configuration which would benefit from having a T1
mounted away from the operating position.

73, Barry N1EU

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:

> Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2, since
> I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the KX2. I
> have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
> And it works very well.
> Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
> different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
> tuner is the way to go.
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi 
> wrote:
>
>> It is correct understood, Barry.
>>
>> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
>>
>>
>>
>> > Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
>> >
>> > I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work with
>> my
>> > KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
>> > re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
>> > setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the
>> KX2
>> > or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune process
>> but
>> > it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I
>> wouldn't
>> > be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
>> only
>> > do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
>> with
>> > an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable is
>> > NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
>> >
>> > Do I have this right?
>> >
>> > Thanks & 73,
>> > Barry N1EU
>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Dave Fugleberg
Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2, since
I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the KX2. I
have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
And it works very well.
Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
tuner is the way to go.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi 
wrote:

> It is correct understood, Barry.
>
> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
>
>
>
> > Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
> >
> > I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work with
> my
> > KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> > re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> > setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the KX2
> > or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune process
> but
> > it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I wouldn't
> > be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
> only
> > do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
> with
> > an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable is
> > NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
> >
> > Do I have this right?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] sharing K3 RS232 to CAT and Remoterig

2017-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 11/14/2017 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> Let me give you a concrete example of why 2 RS-232 ports cannot share
> the same port.

Not necessarily.  One can successfully share a device like the K3 CAT
port between two computers (or a computer and SteppIR controller,
computer and Remote Rig box, etc.) by using isolation/steering diodes.
The circuit is shown in the B&B Electronics 9PMDS/232MDS:
  http://www.bb-elec.com/Products/Datasheets/9PMDS-232MDS_2917ds.pdf

The "modem sharing" device is not fool proof - it does not resolve the
issues of both devices polling at the same time nor does it resolve
the problem with "unexpected data" received by the inactive device but
it does allow two devices to "share" a third under controlled
conditions.

Note: both "computers" will need serial ports that source at least
+10V in the active state.  Many newer USB to serial converters are
3.3V devices and the diode drop will reduce the active level at the
shared device into the "undefined" range which can result in
unreliable operation.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 11/14/2017 9:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Hi all,

Let me give you a concrete example of why 2 RS-232 ports cannot share 
the same port.


Look at the RS-232 Specifications.

The normal voltage for an RS-232 signal line is held at the "Mark level" 
of anywhere between -3 and -15 volts  in its idle state (as measured at 
the receiver).
A "Space" voltage is anywhere between +3 volts and +15 volts (again as 
measured at the receiver).


The driver is a voltage source.  So imagine 2 drivers trying to put a 
signal on a single receiver (or multiple receivers).
The idle driver will be putting a negative voltage on the line, while 
the active driver trying to send data will be putting on a positive 
voltage.  The resulting voltage will be unpredictable and depends on the 
impedance of each driver and the resistance of the signal line.


What will happen if you connect two voltage sources (say 2 power 
supplies) together, one having a negative voltage and the other having a 
positive voltage.  They will cancel one another (besides drawing a lot 
of current from both supplies).
The net effect is that 2 RS-232 drivers on the same line will "fight" 
and proper communications will not be possible.


RS-232 is a point to point operation.  A single driver sending data to a 
single device.  Other receivers may 'listen in' to the communications, 
but if 2 drivers are present on the same signal line, the result is chaos.


Virtual ports can take care of that situation, but one cannot simply 
parallel live hardware RS-232 signals (with a "Y" cable or other means) 
and expect success, so hardware solutions are non-existent.  This is a 
characteristic of RS-232 communications, and not a problem if you follow 
the rules.


73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] sharing K3 RS232 to CAT and Remoterig

2017-11-15 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello Joe

thanks for the help. This will be an option, dont like too much to rewiring
or reconfiguration thinks, dont have skills for that :-(

BUT Mitch point me to a solution I need to try

On remoterig manual
http://www.remoterig.com/downloads/RemoteRig_RRC1258-MkII_Users_manual.pdf
page 217 talk about that

thanks!
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

2017-11-14 22:46 GMT-03:00 Joe Subich, W4TV :

>
> How can I do to share RS232 to have CAT and remoterig at the same
>> time?
>>
> You don't since you pass the computer connection through Bandmaster III
> using the USB input when the output is connected to the K3 RS-232 jack.
> You can not connect both the Bandmaster RS-232 connection *and* Remote
> rig to the K3 RS-232 jack at the same time.
>
> However, you can connect Bandmaster III to the K3 ACC jack and use the
> BCD data (Yaesu) to indicate the selected band.  That will allow you to
> connect *either* Remote Rig *or* the local computer to the K3 CAT jack.
> Bandmaster will follow band selection from the rig whether you are using
> Remote Rig or the local computer.
>
> See the Bandmaster III manual and/or contact the manufacturer for
> support.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 3:23 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> At my station, I have Elecraft K3, Bandmaster III, SixPack, CAT cable
>> connected to K3´s RS232
>>
>> So when I change bands in the radio, antenna is selected automatically
>> through CAT cable and band decoder (Bandmaster III)
>>
>> Today I connected remoterig box, so needed to remove CAT cable to connect
>> remoterig.
>>
>> So now I lost the feature to change antennas automatically when I change
>> bands on the K3
>>
>> How can I do to share RS232 to have CAT and remoterig at the same time?
>>
>> thanks,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Heinz Bärtschi
It is correct understood, Barry.

73, Heinz HB9BCB



> Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
> 
> I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work with my
> KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the KX2
> or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune process but
> it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I wouldn't
> be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will only
> do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used with
> an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable is
> NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
> 
> Do I have this right?
> 
> Thanks & 73,
> Barry N1EU
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 P3 IF connection question

2017-11-15 Thread Dave G3WGN M6O
I have recently moved QTH and am now setting up my Elecraft radios in the new
shack - in exactly the same configuration as at the previous QTH.  No
hardware changes, no firmware upgrades, same cable set.
Everything is working fine with the K3/P3/KPA500/KAT500 combination, with
one exception:
The signals displayed on the P3 rarely exceed S1 on the scale even when the
K3 S meter shows S9+.
I have replaced the BNC - BNC cable connecting the K3 IF out with the P3
input.  No change in signal level.

Is there a simple way to check the K3 IF output for correct operation so
that I can home in on whether the issue is at the K3 or P3 end of the
connection?
Any pointers much appreciated!
73 David G3WGN M6O WJ6O



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[Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

2017-11-15 Thread Barry N1EU
I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work with my
KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the KX2
or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune process but
it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I wouldn't
be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will only
do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used with
an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable is
NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.

Do I have this right?

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU
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