Re: [Elecraft] KX4 Features ??

2019-09-19 Thread Wayne Burdick 
Just in case there's any doubt, the K4 has a complete, multiplatform-compatible 
sound card interface via its USB-B connector, with two virtual control ports 
and stereo digital audio. That's in addition to three USB-A ports, true RS232 
via DE9 for legacy station interfaces, full analog audio I/O, HDMI, and the 
usual ACC jack. It's a superset of the KIO3B.

73,
Wayne
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> On Sep 19, 2019, at 7:16 PM, Eric Garner  wrote:
> 
> One thing it buys you is compatibility with user expectations. The K3s has
> a builtin USB sound card, so leaving it out of the K4 would not meet user
> expectations of what flagship rig like the K4 should look like. Considering
> there's a USB sound card built into most modern rigs now, it would look bad
> when comparing them.
> 
> I can even hear the whining and moaning now "You are telling me that the
> IC-7300, which costs less than a quarter of the price of the K4 has a
> built-in sound card and the K4 does not?"
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:48 AM David Gilbert 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> What does the built in sound card buy you?  You don't save on cabling
>> and USB sound card dongles for the computer are small, cheap, and work
>> fine for digital modes.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/20/2019 11:15 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
>>> I would like to see a built-in sound card for digital modes.  As far as
>> I know there is no small, portable rig that has this feature.  I do expect
>> that a KX4 is either on the drawing boards or at least has been discussed
>> by the Elecraft brain trust (aka Eric & Wayne).  73 de Carl
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Aug 20, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Tox  wrote:
 
 Yep. If you were looking for a sequel to the KX3, the answer appears
 to have been:
 smaller
 lighter
 capable of usage in an HT manner
 lithium batteries
 ...and delivered as the KX2 :)
 
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:18 AM Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> I think you’re going to have to wait a bit for this one. The KX2 kinda
>> slipped in there with a lot of bang fit the buck. And in a real small
>> package.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Doug Hensley  wrote:
>> 
>> With the KX3 now aging from its 2012 debut, has anyone heard what
>> might be on the
>> planning board for a KX4 ?   Inquiring minds . . . . .
>> 
>> If you are a KX3 user, what would you like to see?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX4 Features ??

2019-09-19 Thread Eric Garner 
One thing it buys you is compatibility with user expectations. The K3s has
a builtin USB sound card, so leaving it out of the K4 would not meet user
expectations of what flagship rig like the K4 should look like. Considering
there's a USB sound card built into most modern rigs now, it would look bad
when comparing them.

I can even hear the whining and moaning now "You are telling me that the
IC-7300, which costs less than a quarter of the price of the K4 has a
built-in sound card and the K4 does not?"

-Eric

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:48 AM David Gilbert 
wrote:

>
> What does the built in sound card buy you?  You don't save on cabling
> and USB sound card dongles for the computer are small, cheap, and work
> fine for digital modes.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 8/20/2019 11:15 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
> > I would like to see a built-in sound card for digital modes.  As far as
> I know there is no small, portable rig that has this feature.  I do expect
> that a KX4 is either on the drawing boards or at least has been discussed
> by the Elecraft brain trust (aka Eric & Wayne).  73 de Carl
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ===
> > Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ
> > 17 Coventry Lane
> > Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
> >
> > c...@n8vz.com
> > www.n8vz.com
> > EM89wh
> >
> > IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070
> >
> > PSK and JT65 Forever!
> > ===
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Tox  wrote:
> >>
> >> Yep. If you were looking for a sequel to the KX3, the answer appears
> >> to have been:
> >> smaller
> >> lighter
> >> capable of usage in an HT manner
> >> lithium batteries
> >> ...and delivered as the KX2 :)
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:18 AM Nr4c  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think you’re going to have to wait a bit for this one. The KX2 kinda
> slipped in there with a lot of bang fit the buck. And in a real small
> package.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> ...nr4c. bill
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Doug Hensley  wrote:
> 
>  With the KX3 now aging from its 2012 debut, has anyone heard what
> might be on the
>  planning board for a KX4 ?   Inquiring minds . . . . .
> 
>  If you are a KX3 user, what would you like to see?
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Doug W5JV
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[Elecraft] AXE1 Extender arrived

2019-09-19 Thread Walter - K5EST 
Yes'sir the mail was most welcome today.

My thoughts with just a short try-out...the AXE1 on 40 meters is equal
to or a bit better against the magnetic loop. Seemed like the AXE1 was
better most of the time.

Tomorrow the 30 meter band gets a try-out.

I am impressed, especially since most of my operating is portable. Sure
beats having a big magnetic loop to keep track of and the manual tuning
needed to keep the mag loop tuned!

Thanks Elecraft gang for another great useful product!

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] KX4 Features ??

2019-09-19 Thread Erlend Grimseid 
ir. 20. aug. 2019 kl. 20:49 skrev David Gilbert :

>
> What does the built in sound card buy you?  You don't save on cabling
> and USB sound card dongles for the computer are small, cheap, and work
> fine for digital modes.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E

It would simplify doing digital modes.
Unplugging the mic to plug inn the cables from the sound card is an hassle.
Not to mention that one have to adjust levels every time.
An other option would be some sort of TNC connector. That would make it
possible to use pactor modems and other TNC's and not only soundcard modes.

73
LA4TTA
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tir. 20. aug. 2019 kl. 20:49 skrev David Gilbert :

>
> What does the built in sound card buy you?  You don't save on cabling
> and USB sound card dongles for the computer are small, cheap, and work
> fine for digital modes.
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 8/20/2019 11:15 AM, Carl Jón Denbow wrote:
> > I would like to see a built-in sound card for digital modes.  As far as
> I know there is no small, portable rig that has this feature.  I do expect
> that a KX4 is either on the drawing boards or at least has been discussed
> by the Elecraft brain trust (aka Eric & Wayne).  73 de Carl
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ===
> > Carl Jón Denbow, N8VZ
> > 17 Coventry Lane
> > Athens, Ohio 45701-3718
> >
> > c...@n8vz.com
> > www.n8vz.com
> > EM89wh
> >
> > IRLP 4533   Echolink 116070
> >
> > PSK and JT65 Forever!
> > ===
> >
> >> On Aug 20, 2019, at 1:48 PM, Tox  wrote:
> >>
> >> Yep. If you were looking for a sequel to the KX3, the answer appears
> >> to have been:
> >> smaller
> >> lighter
> >> capable of usage in an HT manner
> >> lithium batteries
> >> ...and delivered as the KX2 :)
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:18 AM Nr4c  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think you’re going to have to wait a bit for this one. The KX2 kinda
> slipped in there with a lot of bang fit the buck. And in a real small
> package.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> ...nr4c. bill
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Doug Hensley  wrote:
> 
>  With the KX3 now aging from its 2012 debut, has anyone heard what
> might be on the
>  planning board for a KX4 ?   Inquiring minds . . . . .
> 
>  If you are a KX3 user, what would you like to see?
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
>  Doug W5JV
>  K1, K2, K3s
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Erwin Witt - DK5EW 
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Will rock more than a few worlds ? OK I hope it will have 4m as well .

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Paul Van Dyke schrieb am 19.09.2019 20:56 (GMT +02:00):
> No you have not, there are many things that they are playing their cards
> real close and we do not know about.
> I am sure the K4 will rock more than a few worlds
> 
> Paul KB9AVO
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> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:11 PM Joel Hallas 
> wrote:
> 
> > I have been very impressed with the architecture and features of the K4,
> as
> > announced. I was able to hear Eric describe the ideas behind it at the
> > Boxboro ARRL convention a few weeks back, and think it will be a fine
> > addition to the line.
> >
> > The one feature I didn't hear about, and didn't think to ask at the
> time,
> > was what the plans are for coverage of our two new LF and MF bands. The
> K4
> > brochure indicates both that "Frequency Range: 100 kHz - 54 MHz..."
> likely
> > referring to the receive range, and that "Basic K4 XCVR provides 160-6 m
> > all
> > mode coverage."
> >
> > I wonder if the basic K4 will transceive at all on the new bands.
> Perhaps I
> > missed that discussion?
> >
> > Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> > Westport, CT
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Erwin Witt - DK5EW 


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Logan R Zintsmaster 
If you add a dual transverter capability, could you make it full duplex for 
satellite use?  Even if it has to be a K4D, it would be worth it to me.
Logan, KE7AZ 

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> On Sep 19, 2019, at 12:17 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Joel,
> 
> The K4 will receive on all LF and MF bands down to 100 kHz. In TX mode, it 
> can put out a few dBm at the XVTR OUT jack for use with external low-band 
> transverters.
> 
> Since the K4 also has provisions for an *internal* transverter, we could in 
> theory offer one in for these bands. Power output could be as much as 10 or 
> 15 W. This is all speculative, though, as the plan has been to cover one or 
> two VHF/UHF bands with the internal transverter module.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 19, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Joel Hallas  wrote:
>> 
>> I have been very impressed with the architecture and features of the K4, as
>> announced. I was able to hear Eric describe the ideas behind it at the
>> Boxboro ARRL convention a few weeks back, and think it will be a fine
>> addition to the line.
>> 
>> The one feature I didn't hear about, and didn't think to ask at the time,
>> was what the plans are for coverage of our two new LF and MF bands. The K4
>> brochure indicates both that "Frequency Range: 100 kHz - 54 MHz..." likely
>> referring to the receive range, and that "Basic K4 XCVR provides 160-6 m all
>> mode coverage." 
>> 
>> I wonder if the basic K4 will transceive at all on the new bands. Perhaps I
>> missed that discussion?
>> 
>> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
>> Westport, CT
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Wayne Burdick 
Joel,

The K4 will receive on all LF and MF bands down to 100 kHz. In TX mode, it can 
put out a few dBm at the XVTR OUT jack for use with external low-band 
transverters.

Since the K4 also has provisions for an *internal* transverter, we could in 
theory offer one in for these bands. Power output could be as much as 10 or 15 
W. This is all speculative, though, as the plan has been to cover one or two 
VHF/UHF bands with the internal transverter module.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Sep 19, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Joel Hallas  wrote:
> 
> I have been very impressed with the architecture and features of the K4, as
> announced. I was able to hear Eric describe the ideas behind it at the
> Boxboro ARRL convention a few weeks back, and think it will be a fine
> addition to the line.
> 
> The one feature I didn't hear about, and didn't think to ask at the time,
> was what the plans are for coverage of our two new LF and MF bands. The K4
> brochure indicates both that "Frequency Range: 100 kHz - 54 MHz..." likely
> referring to the receive range, and that "Basic K4 XCVR provides 160-6 m all
> mode coverage." 
> 
> I wonder if the basic K4 will transceive at all on the new bands. Perhaps I
> missed that discussion?
> 
> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> Westport, CT
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Paul Van Dyke 
No you have not, there are many things that they are playing their cards
real close and we do not know about.
I am sure the K4 will rock more than a few worlds

Paul  KB9AVO



On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:11 PM Joel Hallas  wrote:

> I have been very impressed with the architecture and features of the K4, as
> announced. I was able to hear Eric describe the ideas behind it at the
> Boxboro ARRL convention a few weeks back, and think it will be a fine
> addition to the line.
>
> The one feature I didn't hear about, and didn't think to ask at the time,
> was what the plans are for coverage of our two new LF and MF bands. The K4
> brochure indicates both that "Frequency Range: 100 kHz - 54 MHz..." likely
> referring to the receive range, and that "Basic K4 XCVR provides 160-6 m
> all
> mode coverage."
>
> I wonder if the basic K4 will transceive at all on the new bands. Perhaps I
> missed that discussion?
>
> Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
> Westport, CT
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] K4 Question

2019-09-19 Thread Joel Hallas 
I have been very impressed with the architecture and features of the K4, as
announced. I was able to hear Eric describe the ideas behind it at the
Boxboro ARRL convention a few weeks back, and think it will be a fine
addition to the line.

The one feature I didn't hear about, and didn't think to ask at the time,
was what the plans are for coverage of our two new LF and MF bands. The K4
brochure indicates both that "Frequency Range: 100 kHz - 54 MHz..." likely
referring to the receive range, and that "Basic K4 XCVR provides 160-6 m all
mode coverage." 

I wonder if the basic K4 will transceive at all on the new bands. Perhaps I
missed that discussion?

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT



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Re: [Elecraft] HI SIG

2019-09-19 Thread IK4EWX 
Were you using a bug, a semi-automatic key?
Ian IK4EWX




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[Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment for sale.

2019-09-19 Thread Ron Gould 
I have the the following Elecraft equipment for sale:

Elecraft P3 with P3TXMon and P3VGA installed with the 1,8-54 

MHz Panadapter TX Sensor, cables and Manuals $810 Firm with free shipping.. 

Elecraft KX3 with Roofing Filter, Auto tuner, Charger/Real Time Clock, and a 
MH3 microphone with a Sidekit mount for mobile, manual, power cable and 
computer cable for firmware updates; everything is n excellent condition The 
most recent firmware is loaded $1220 firm

Elecraft SP-3 speakers 2 each with cables in great shape, not using. ((will not 
split) $275 pickup Portland, Oregon. If shipped you pay shipping 

Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 great shape both work excellent. $2100 Firm with 
free shipping.  $2000 if picked up in Portland, Oregon

Contact off list please.
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