Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
That won’t do any good. The main firmware has shut down at that point. The fan is running because the relay is stuck, which is not something that firmware can fix. Call tech support. 73! Jack, W6FB > On Nov 25, 2019, at 7:49 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > > Reload the firmware. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 6:51 PM VK5GR wrote: > >> FAN CTL = NOR >> >> FANs are idle while the amp is turned on - amp ambient temp was 27C at the >> time (it was powered up and had been idle for about 20 minutes). >> >> I then turned the amplifier off via the front panel push button. I would >> have expected the FANs to start up for about 10 seconds as they discharge >> the 60V rail supply but instead the FANs continue to run. the only way to >> turn them off is to unplug the amp from the mains supply. >> >> It is definitely a fault condition and not a menu selection. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to norrislawfi...@gmail.com >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jackbrin...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
Reload the firmware. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 6:51 PM VK5GR wrote: > FAN CTL = NOR > > FANs are idle while the amp is turned on - amp ambient temp was 27C at the > time (it was powered up and had been idle for about 20 minutes). > > I then turned the amplifier off via the front panel push button. I would > have expected the FANs to start up for about 10 seconds as they discharge > the 60V rail supply but instead the FANs continue to run. the only way to > turn them off is to unplug the amp from the mains supply. > > It is definitely a fault condition and not a menu selection. > > Thoughts? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to norrislawfi...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
Does the mains switch on the rear panel shut the fan off? I would next reload the firmware. Bob, K4TAX Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:50 PM, VK5GR wrote: > > FAN CTL = NOR > > FANs are idle while the amp is turned on - amp ambient temp was 27C at the > time (it was powered up and had been idle for about 20 minutes). > > I then turned the amplifier off via the front panel push button. I would > have expected the FANs to start up for about 10 seconds as they discharge > the 60V rail supply but instead the FANs continue to run. the only way to > turn them off is to unplug the amp from the mains supply. > > It is definitely a fault condition and not a menu selection. > > Thoughts? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
FAN CTL = NOR FANs are idle while the amp is turned on - amp ambient temp was 27C at the time (it was powered up and had been idle for about 20 minutes). I then turned the amplifier off via the front panel push button. I would have expected the FANs to start up for about 10 seconds as they discharge the 60V rail supply but instead the FANs continue to run. the only way to turn them off is to unplug the amp from the mains supply. It is definitely a fault condition and not a menu selection. Thoughts? -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
What is the value in the menu for FAN CTL? If at NOR then the fan should be off until the temp hits about 50º C. It will then increment up one speed value about every 5 degrees temp increase. What is the TEMP value showing? Should be about room temp or 22 to 25 C 73 Bob, K4TAX On 11/25/2019 7:57 PM, VK5GR wrote: Folks, Has there been any further word on this fault? I have just had the same thing happen to me and am wondering if it could be the same issue? Regards, Grant VK5GR -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rmcg...@blomand.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 fan won't shut off
Folks, Has there been any further word on this fault? I have just had the same thing happen to me and am wondering if it could be the same issue? Regards, Grant VK5GR -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] XFIL on K3
A hidden feature if you you want to toggle thought ALL filter slots, even if they are empty or not selected for the current Mode! *Go into any config menu starting with FL (except for FLTX); (IE "FLx BW", or "FLx FRQ" or "FLx GN" or "FLx ON") Then while in that menu, tap 6/XFIL, and it will got rotate though *ALL* the slots. This is good to see if you have a filter or not in a slot. Also good to use if you want to use the AM filter on FM if you have adjacent channel interference. Or force a filter on a mode that is not selected. Keith WE6R __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WTB: KTCXO3
If anbody has a spare KTCXO for the K3 to sell, pse let me know. Tnx, 73 Gernot, DF5RF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Multiple antennas on one port (KAT500 KPA1500)
"With just two antenna ports on the KPA1500, there are only two quickly accessible tuning solutions per frequency if using both ports. If using only one port and an external antenna switch, a common choice in many stations, finding the correct tuning solutions can't be done fast enough to prevent a fault." The KAT500 remembers the most recent 6 tuning solutions for each frequency "bin". The saved solution includes the antenna port in use when that solution was stored. I would guess that the tuner in KPA1500 does the same thing. This means that the tuner already has enough non volatile memory allocated to cope with more than one antenna on each port. The problem would be letting the tuner know which antenna is in use on the current port before RF is applied. If the tuner had the option to tag each tuning solution with antenna port and also external antenna selection, then up to 6 switched antennas could be accommodated on 1 port with little, or no, increase in NVM overhead. If the external antenna switch provided a position signal then that signal could be provided to the tuner by a new serial command or AUX bus command, or by extension of the existing antenna selection commands. There would be lots of details to sort out and I suspect it would be easier to store the multiple tuning solutions for different externally selected antennas in a separate controller. The idea is the same though - if the system knows what what port is in use, and it knows what antenna has been selected on that port, then it can instantly recall and apply the last remembered tuning solution for that switching combination for the current TX frequency. Andy, k3wyc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Drive Levels
I noticed the LPA was getting quite hot when running wspr at 5w for days at time--even with 15% tx cycle. My workaround is a six-inch computer fan set vertical on the right side of the k3, blowing quiet air on the right side and bottom of the k3. It seems to work. I also have used a tiny 2" squirrel-cage fan blowing air under the XV144 during high duty-cycle modes in WSJT. The five high-volume fans I run on the Henry 2002A, to keep from blowing tubes, on the other hand, are a freight-train-in-a-shack (TM). 73, Eric WD6DBM 73 Eric WD6DBM On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 7:20 PM Dennis Ashworth wrote: > Makes you wonder how K3/10 users fair running high duty cycle modes at > full output. I’ve replaced two sets of LPF drivers running 10W WSJT on my > K3/100. No more! Now I advance the power until the amplifier engages > (~12W). Hopefully this reduces driver dissipation. > > Dennis, K7FL > > > > On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:15 PM, dgb wrote: > > > > Thanks for the good info Keith - I quit using 12w yrs ago as one > E'craft tech told me after the 1st one blew. > > > > Also heard from another that I could turn the fans on all the time which > should help as normally they are only on when you go to 13w and up. > > > > Will play with them - t u 73 Dwight NS9I > > > >>> On 11/21/2019 4:04 PM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote: > >> You can play with the Config Menu watt meter calibration high and low > numbers to get the switch-over point different. > >> IE where the Low power amp (LPA) switches to 100 amp (KPA3). This > happens at 12W "indicated". > >> The two Calibration numbers are for all bands! > >> So; Go into config menu WMTR LP (below 12W) or HP (above 12W). (note 6 > meters switches at 8W)! > >> Make a note of both numbers so you can put them back! > >> Extreme numbers to get the KPA3 to click in at lower actual power > levels would be to set both for 180 (max). > >> You will have to use an external watt-meter to see what is going on as > the K3 internal watt-meter readout is all out of calibration now!! > >> I just played with a radio and it switches over at about 7 watts with > both numbers at 180 > >> Have fun! > >> Keith WE6R > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to n...@bayland.net > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to norrislawfi...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ris: Elecraft web site off? TO DON WILHELM AND ERIC SCHWARTZ
This site is a handy way to check if a site is down for everyone or just for you. https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/elecraft.com wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Nov 25, 2019, at 5:53 AM, IK6QON Francesco wrote: > > Same story here in L'Aquila. > > > Il giorno lun 25 nov 2019 alle ore 14:31 IK4EWX ha > scritto: > >> Don, and all the friends that answered, it is really a strange thing. >> Other italian hams friend of mine tried to connect Elecraft web site and >> all >> were unable to connect it. >> We have different internet providers, we all are unable to connect it. >> I even changed the DNS (8.8.8.8...)on pc, but this not the problem. >> Don, you worked with Elecraft, can you say this thing to Elecraft people? >> Thanks es 73, >> Ian IK4EWX >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ik6...@gmail.com >> > > > -- > 73's Francesco *IK6QON* > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Drive Levels and the SPE 1.3K-FA
I purchased one of these amps about two years ago. I expected it to require 50 to 60 watts of drive for full output but it only took half that. I was worried about screwing up and hitting it with 100 watts from the K3 and blowing the final transistor. I knew there was a pad on the input and I figured it would be fairly simple to increase the attenuation 2 db or so. I pulled the covers off the amp and discovered that there were 2 pads on the input! The first was TO-220 style resistors mounted to a chassis rail and the second was conventional wire-wound resistors mounted on the PA circuit board. Replacing the TO-220 resistors looked like it would involve quite a bit of disassembly and probably would void the warranty. Tack soldering some resistors on the second pad to increase the attenuation would be much easier and could be easily removed if it had to go back for service. Problem solved, right? Nope. I discovered that the amp senses drive power after the first pad. This meant the amp kept tripping off with overdrive warnings! I contacted the factory to see if there was an adjustment I could make and was told it would have to come back for "realignment"! I now have a KPA1500! 73, Roger __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ris: Elecraft web site off? TO DON WILHELM AND ERIC SCHWARTZ
Same story here in L'Aquila. Il giorno lun 25 nov 2019 alle ore 14:31 IK4EWX ha scritto: > Don, and all the friends that answered, it is really a strange thing. > Other italian hams friend of mine tried to connect Elecraft web site and > all > were unable to connect it. > We have different internet providers, we all are unable to connect it. > I even changed the DNS (8.8.8.8...)on pc, but this not the problem. > Don, you worked with Elecraft, can you say this thing to Elecraft people? > Thanks es 73, > Ian IK4EWX > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ik6...@gmail.com > -- 73's Francesco *IK6QON* __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ris: Elecraft web site off? TO DON WILHELM AND ERIC SCHWARTZ
Might be a useful data point, maybe not. I just used my vpn to connect to servers in Italy. One in Milan another in Cosenza. Both were able to reach the Elecraft website without difficulty. On 25/11/2019 20:30, IK4EWX wrote: Don, and all the friends that answered, it is really a strange thing. Other italian hams friend of mine tried to connect Elecraft web site and all were unable to connect it. We have different internet providers, we all are unable to connect it. I even changed the DNS (8.8.8.8...)on pc, but this not the problem. Don, you worked with Elecraft, can you say this thing to Elecraft people? Thanks es 73, Ian IK4EWX -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hs0...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Ris: Elecraft web site off? TO DON WILHELM AND ERIC SCHWARTZ
Don, and all the friends that answered, it is really a strange thing. Other italian hams friend of mine tried to connect Elecraft web site and all were unable to connect it. We have different internet providers, we all are unable to connect it. I even changed the DNS (8.8.8.8...)on pc, but this not the problem. Don, you worked with Elecraft, can you say this thing to Elecraft people? Thanks es 73, Ian IK4EWX -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
Or, perhaps, Beethoven… Schindler? James Forsman. K7BIE https://jrquark.smugmug.com/HamRadio On Nov 24, 2019, at 11:41 PM, kevinr wrote: Good Evening, I could not find an open space to run the twenty meter net. The forty meter net started when the CQWW contest faded away. There was QSB on everyone I worked. Those farther east had slow waves. KG7V is just across the Columbia River from me (and a little up the coast) had a fast flutter from S2 to S5. K1SW was able to check in again with his KX2 running 12 watts. S0 to S3 but with repeats I got more information. W0CZ had a strong signal but could not hear me. His S5 to S7 signal was easy copy. On 7047.5 kHz at z: K0DTJ - Brian - CA K6PJV - Dale - CA W6JHB - Jim - CA KG7V - Marv - WA W0CZ - Ken - ND K1SW - Dick - CT I lost the use of my keyboard a little earlier today. After two keyboard changes and a few reboots I determined the hardware was most likely not the culprit. As I was switching keyboards I held down a key and a few characters appeared. Very slowly. So I queried the Ubuntu site and found 'slow keys'. I dove into the settings and turned it off. Seems you can turn on this feature if you hold the shift key down too long. You learn something new each day. But for a while it was like Bach's "Rage Over the Lost Penny". Until next week stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jamesfors...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Unexpected K-POD frequency excursions
Peter, Contact Elecraft support on this issue. Sounds like poor grounding/ESD protection. They may have a service bulletin to fix the issue. Dave wo2x -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Peter Dougherty Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:56 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Unexpected K-POD frequency excursions Hi all, In CQWW this weekend I ran across a problem that's been plaguing me in previous contests too. With the K-pod connected to the radio (K3s) using the supplied cable I'm finding that the main VFO QSYs down about 100-200 Hz on a random basis. I tried loading the flat cable up with Mix 31 ferrites to no effect. I haven't thoroughly tested this on all bands, but it definitely occurred on 20 through 160. It was not a regular occurrence; maybe every 2-3 minutes it would happen. When I engage the VFO lock on the front panel of the radio it stops doing it. I has also been know to shut the radio off once every few days when I touch the K-pod, which I'm attributing to static electricity. While I love the functionality of my K-pod, I had to take it offline due to the frequency excursions. I'd like to get a fix for this if at all possible. Suggestions? - 73 and Good DX Peter, W2IRT President, North Jersey DX Association DXCC Card Checker Letter O Manager, ARRL Incoming 2nd District QSL bureau __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rocke...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com