Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Martin Sole

Keith,

Many thanks for the heads up. I did the gain calibration instinctively 
as I did not know if it would be modified by the EE-Init or not, the D10 
manual page 66 on parameter initialization does not state.


All working well now and the radio is back to proper operation.

Martin, HS0ZED


On 31/03/2020 04:50, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:

Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
Then save the config.
**BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
From my notes;

*_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or 
DATA mode(s) + N/A_*


_Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 
instead of .01


Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the 
toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:


CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)

CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01

DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)

Keith WE6R


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on SSB

2020-03-30 Thread Scott Manthe
When I was active, I often got unsolicited positive comments on my audio 
quality. Partly due to my great voice, I'm sure, but the radio didn't 
wreck the raw material.


73,
Scott N9AA

On 3/30/20 9:17 PM, Ignacy wrote:

Many contesters with large budgets use K3 to win or obtain top scores in SSB
contests. This means that K3 is competitive on SSB with other radios, and
its flaws in SSB if any are balanced by its advantages.
Early K3 had large AF distortions, fixed by a simple modification.
Ignacy, NO9E






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 on SSB

2020-03-30 Thread Ignacy
Many contesters with large budgets use K3 to win or obtain top scores in SSB
contests. This means that K3 is competitive on SSB with other radios, and
its flaws in SSB if any are balanced by its advantages.
Early K3 had large AF distortions, fixed by a simple modification. 
Ignacy, NO9E



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[Elecraft] More Winlink on K3S

2020-03-30 Thread dave . g4aon
Have you set synchronous data mode on? It should show a “+” symbol on the K3 
display.

I’ve used my K3 with an Amtor/Pactor modem for years without any issues, but 
not with Winmor.

73 Dave G4AON 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Buck
How about this one?  K3S CW mode. Tone at 14.053.953 with shift at 650 
Hz, lox cut at .10  High cut at 1.20.  Same tone at 7.026.765 and 
21.074.113 but weaker.  The tone is strong enough to show a spike on the 
P3.


Tone goes away if I move the shift off 650 Hz or change the low cut or 
high cut.  But the spike still appears on the P3 screen?  Something in 
the P3?


k4ia, Buck
K3s# 11497
Honor Roll  8B DXCC
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On 3/30/2020 5:50 PM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:

Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
Then save the config.
**BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
 From my notes;

*_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA 
mode(s) + N/A_*


_Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 instead 
of .01


Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the 
toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:


CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)

CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01

DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)

Keith WE6R
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shift-width/lo-hi

2020-03-30 Thread Keith Trinity WE6R

Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
Then save the config.
**BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
From my notes;

*_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA 
mode(s) + N/A_*


_Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 instead 
of .01


Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the 
toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:


CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)

CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01

DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)

Keith WE6R
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[Elecraft] More Winlink on K3S

2020-03-30 Thread Lee Murrah via Elecraft
My troubles with Winlink on the K3S continue.

I used the setup that was recently suggested here, and I was able to control 
the radio and transmit.  However. I am still unable to connect via Winmor.  In 
the window with the waterfall, I am seeing the following message in red when 
attempting to connect:

"Timeout on T/R latency measurement”

The Winmor documentation says this means that the switching from transmit to 
receive is too slow. Can anyone tell me how to correct this problem?

I was able to connect to the local ARES coordinator by peer-to-peer and send 
and receive emails. I saw the message briefly above on peer-to-peer, but it 
disappeared and the connection ensued. 

73,
Lee KV5M
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[Elecraft] Special Bulletin: Sea-Pac and ARRL Northwestern Division Convention Canceled

2020-03-30 Thread Ken G Kopp
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From: ARRL Members Only Web site 
Date: Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 12:54
Subject: Special Bulletin: Sea-Pac and ARRL Northwestern Division
Convention Canceled
To: 


I received the following notice regarding the cancellation of Sea-Pac
2020, (which also hosts our yearly ARRL Northwestern Division
Convention). While disappointing and painful, it's certainly the right
thing to do.

At this point in time the Pacific NW DX Convention scheduled for August
is still going on as planned. That said, stay tuned for further
developments.

I've received many requests for club Zoom meetings in the last few
weeks, so I'm certain most clubs are properly "social distancing"
themselves. Social distancing is vitally important in keeping the virus
in check, especially when so many amateurs fit the most vulnerable
demographic. Let's all hope that this virus pandemic blows over quickly
and we can get our lives back to normal!

Finally, there have been many questions brought to me by members as to
the status of the ARRL Volunteer Examiner program, and also questions as
to how the upcoming ARRL Field Day event will be affected. I'll deal
more with these questions in my next update, as I have a teleconference
with other members of the Board's Programs and Services committee
scheduled later this week.

The staff at ARRL HQ are adjusting to the "new normal" of working mostly
from home, (as are we all), so please be patient when attempting to
contact them regarding any issues.


73, and please stay safe!

Mike Ritz, W7VO
Director, ARRL Northwestern Division

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SEA-PAC 2020 Cancellation Notice

 For some time the SEA-PAC Executive Committee has monitored the
COVID-19 pandemic working closely with our local health, public and
government partners in assessing this unprecedented situation.

With approximately 60 days until the event, the Executive Committee has
made the decision to cancel the SEA-PAC convention for 2020. Convention
fees paid will be refunded.

This conclusion is based on the deadly seriousness of the virus, the
rate of expansion, and the recovery time after the crisis apex is
achieved. But more importantly, it is based on the genuine concern for
the health and safety of the attendees, vendors and presenters.

Details regarding this cancellation will be posted at www.seapac.org.


Thank you for your understanding and we are looking forward to the next
SEA-PAC on 4, 5, and 6 June 2021.

Gary J Takis K7GJT

SEA-PAC 2020 Chairman


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 191, Issue 29

2020-03-30 Thread John Kountz
It would be pleasant if a schedule including dates, times, frequencies and net 
control QTH was available for all of the 'elecraft' nets.  I suspect  
participation would improve significantly.
73 de John Kountz WO1S

Message: 16
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:40:31 -0400
From: Steve Hall <99sun...@gmail.com>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] 40 meter Elecraft net
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

40 meter net every Sunday at 1845Z on 7.280+/-
AM stations were spread out over the entire area of the band we frequent.
Conditions not the greatest apparently as turn out was low.  Thanks to
those participating.
My apologies if my data is not correct.  My notes were a little garbled.

WM6P GA   Steve K3s, KPA500
N8AID MA   Daryl  K3s
WB9JNZ IL  EricK3
K8NU  OH   CarlK3s
N0MPM   IA Mike   K3s
KG5SBS  AR   Tim FT857

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[Elecraft] [sea-pac-info] SEA-PAC 2020 Cancellation Notice

2020-03-30 Thread Ken G Kopp
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From: Sea-Pac information 
Date: Mon, Mar 30, 2020, 10:03
Subject: [sea-pac-info] SEA-PAC 2020 Cancellation Notice
To: SEA-PAC News 


SEA-PAC 2020 Cancellation Notice



For some time the SEA-PAC Executive Committee has monitored the COVID-19
pandemic working closely with our local health, public and government
partners in assessing this unprecedented situation.



With approximately 60 days until the event, the Executive Committee has
made the decision to *cancel the SEA-PAC convention for 2020*. Convention
fees paid will be refunded.



This conclusion is based on the deadly seriousness of the virus, the rate
of expansion, and the recovery time after the crisis apex is achieved. But
more importantly, it is based on the genuine concern for the health and
safety of the attendees, vendors and presenters.



Details regarding this cancellation will be posted at www.seapac.org.



Thank you for your understanding and we are looking forward to the next
SEA-PAC on 4, 5, and 6 June 2021.



Gary J Takis K7GJT

SEA-PAC 2020 Chairman
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 191, Issue 30

2020-03-30 Thread Fitch, Gordon
Dave, what is stated as the cause of death on the CD ?

Gordon

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   1. Elecraft CW Net Report (kevinr)
   2. Re: The Big Three... (Barry)
   3. Re: K4 Update: Transmit Features -- Emphasis on SSB (Wes)
   4. Re: The Big Three... (donov...@starpower.net)
   5. Re: The Big Three... (Clay Autery)
   6. Re: The Big Three... (Clay Autery)
   7. Re: K4 Update: Transmit Features -- Emphasis on SSB (Clay Autery)
   8. Re: The Big Three... (donov...@starpower.net)
   9. Re: The Big Three... (donov...@starpower.net)
  10. Re: The Big Three... (Clay Autery)
  11. Re: The Big Three... (Jim Brown)
  12. Re: The Big Three... (Jim Brown)
  13. Re: Not moving your wrist sending CW ? (Steve Witt)
  14. Re: The Big Three... (donov...@starpower.net)
  15. K vs. KN (Bob DeHaney)
  16. Re: The Big Three... (Clay Autery)
  17. Re: Not moving your wrist sending CW ? (Clay Autery)
  18. Re: Not moving your wrist sending CW ? (Andy McMullin)
  19. Re: K vs. KN (Thorsten Fricke)
  20. Identifying KAT500 fault condition (Andy Durbin)
  21. Re: Identifying KAT500 fault condition (Lyn Norstad)
  22. The K3 and config files. (David Olean)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:11:01 -0700
From: kevinr 
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Good Evening,

 ?? Both bands had QSB and a lot of noise.? But the signals were mostly
easy to copy.? QSB ate a few numbers though.? The best signal of the day
was from KL7CW on 20 meters.? Rick hit S9 more than once.? Many people
spoke of walking around their neighborhood.? I'm catching up on reading
the stacks of magazines which accumulate.? If only? they were printed on
newsprint they would work well for heating too.


 ? On 14050.5 kHz at 2200z:

W0CZ - Ken - ND

NO8V - John - MI

KL7CW - Rick - AK

K0JFJ - Nick - AZ

K4JPN - Steve - GA

W8OV - Dave - TX


 ? On 7047.5 kHz at z:

W6JHB - Jim - CA

K9ZTV - Kent - MO

KL7CW - Rick - AK

K0DTJ - Brian - CA

K6PJV - Dale - CA

W8OV - Dave - TX

W0CZ - Ken - ND

KN6DR - Thomas - WA


 ?? Until next week stay active and be well,

  73,? Kevin.? KD5ONS

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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 03:41:24 +
From: Barry 
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...
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Something that I think is being missed. Didn't Elecraft address all of
this in the K3s upgrade and design? I do contest using SSB, and haven't
seen a problem with my K3s.

73,
Barry
K3NDM


-- Original Message --
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

>
>29.03.2020 23:06, donov...@starpower.net ?:
>>
>>It won't be long before we can have some run running the same tests with the 
>>K4.
>>
>>
>>73
>>Frank
>>W3LPL
>
>Frank, please keep us posted regarding the outcome of this future testing.
>
>73, Igor UA9CDC
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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread john



Interesting post Frank and perfect timing after trying to work  
stations with my K3S loaded with SSB roofing filters through the heavy  
QRM during last weekend's WPX Phone contest. My head still hurts:) I  
was not aware that you use "other" radios on SSB.


John KK9A


Frank W3LPL wrote:


You would have to seriously compete in an SSB contest with some of the
more modern radios in very crowded bands to fully appreciate how much
better the more modern technologies are for both transmit and receive signal
quality. The latest Flex radios are almost shockingly good, but all of the
top-shelf modern radios are significantly better performers than the
12 year old K3 or even the K3S.



We're discussing the most demanding situations affecting SSB transceiver
performance: weak -- often distorted -- SSB signals surrounded by
much stronger adjacent channel QRM. For much of the time on
20 and especially 40 meters the adjacent much stronger signals overlap
well into the receiver bandwidth. Typical spacing between SSB signals
is only 1.5 kHz, if you're lucky its 2.0 kHz and only rarely 2.5 kHz or more.
This situation is rather unimportant for the casual contester, but its a
game changer at the upper levels of serious SSB contest competition.


I have not made technical measurements of K3 SSB transmitter and
receiver performance nor do I have the capability to do so. I suspect the
more modern designs have improved the dynamic response of their entire
receiver and transmitter chain in ways that can't be captured by simple
static performance measurements such as frequency response, dynamic range
and IMD.


73
Frank
W3LPL

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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread Fred Jensen
Engineering is the Science and Art of managing theoretical, mechanical, 
logistic, economic, ergonomic, and aesthetic tradeoffs.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 3/29/2020 10:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
But that all depends on the parts you can buy for a product that must 
sell for a price that customers can pay, and, as you've noted, those 
design decisions were likely made in 2006. And from where I sit, I've 
always viewed Wayne and Eric as marketing geniuses (in the best sense 
of that).


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

2020-03-30 Thread kc8wh.mh
The fans on my KPA 500 kick on at 50C and shut down when the temperature gets 
to 48 or 49 C. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: NK6A-Don Minkoff  
Date: 3/30/20  12:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft  
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode Has anyone had a 
problem with the fans not turning on automatically in the KPA1500?I realized 
that operating today in WPX that the  temp was reading over 43 c and no fans.  
Manually turned them on.  Reloaded firmware and still no fans when getting over 
40 deg c.  Ser no. 316. Ver. 2.38.I'll have to wait for Elecraft support but if 
anyone else has had this problem I would be interested in the fix.  Temp 
sensor?-- Don 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

2020-03-30 Thread Dick Dievendorff
43 degrees C is below the first turn-on speed for 160 thru 10 meters.

Fan turn-on and turn-off speeds are in the KPA1500 firmware release notes for 
version 1.87:

⦁   Changed temperatures for fan speeds:
⦁   On 160 thru 10 meters, fans increase speed at 50, 70, 80, 87, and 95 
degrees, and slow at 40, 55, 75, 81, and 88 degrees.
⦁   On 6 meters the fans increase speed at 40, 50, 65, 80, and 90 degrees 
and slow at 35, 41, 51, 66, and 81 degrees.

73 de Dick, K6KR

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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 09:14
To: Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

Has anyone had a problem with the fans not turning on automatically in the 
KPA1500?

I realized that operating today in WPX that the  temp was reading over
43 c and no fans.  Manually turned them on.  Reloaded firmware and still no 
fans when getting over 40 deg c.  Ser no. 316. Ver. 2.38.

I'll have to wait for Elecraft support but if anyone else has had this problem 
I would be interested in the fix.  Temp sensor?

--
Don Minkoff
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[Elecraft] Far Off Topic, but one of teh funniest things I have ever read...

2020-03-30 Thread Dave Cole

The best line in the entire article is:

“I have some electronic equipment but really no experience or expertise 
in building circuits or things,” he told Guardian Australia.


Entire article:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/30/astrophysicist-gets-magnets-stuck-up-nose-while-inventing-coronavirus-device

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

2020-03-30 Thread Dave
I do not remember the exact values but the latest firmware changed the start & 
stop points for the different fan speeds. If it had gone to 50c without the 
fans turning on then I would definitely be concerned.

Maybe someone from Elecraft can post the temperature crossover points for fans 
to increase or decrease speed. There is also a dwell feature where you can add 
delay before fans decrease in speed when cooling down.

I’m happy with fan performance of current firmware.

Dave wo2x

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 12:15 PM, NK6A-Don Minkoff  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had a problem with the fans not turning on automatically in the 
> KPA1500?
> 
> I realized that operating today in WPX that the  temp was reading over 43 c 
> and no fans.  Manually turned them on.  Reloaded firmware and still no fans 
> when getting over 40 deg c.  Ser no. 316. Ver. 2.38.
> 
> I'll have to wait for Elecraft support but if anyone else has had this 
> problem I would be interested in the fix.  Temp sensor?
> 
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> NK6A
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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread Edward R Cole

Probably not add much of value to this discussion.

When I first got my K3 in 2010 using the internal speaker the SSB 
audio seemed harsh.  So didn't take me long to hook up my old 10-inch 
1950's era National speaker (made a lot of difference).  For 
demanding operation (usually meaning working very weak signals) I use 
a stereo headset.


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[Elecraft] SSB Net for 3-29-2020

2020-03-30 Thread Eric Lanzl
Here is the list of stations checking in to the net this past Sunday. Due to 
the contest, less stations checked in to the net. Thank you to the relay 
stations assisting with the net NC0JW and K1NW. Also, thanks to Steve WM6P for 
being net control for the newly created 40m net which occurs at 18:45 on about 
7.280 depending on frequency usage. Best wishes to all and stay well. Eric 
WB9JNZ


Call Name  State   Radio    Serial #  QRP   
Notes

NC0JW   Jim    CO KX3  1356 
  Relay station

WM6P    Steve   GA K3S   11453  
     

KB9AVO    Paul  IN   K3S   11103
       

K1NW Brian RI   K3 4974 
    Relay station

N6PGQ  Bob   CA  K3 5891
     

K7BRR    Bill AZ  K3 / K3S  5545 / 
10939     

KC1ACL  Steve   NM    KX3  10677
       

K6FW  Frank    CA  K3S   11672  
     

K0DTJ Brian CA  K3 4113 
    

KO5V  Jim    NM    K2/100    7225   
      
 W7QHD Kurt           AZ   K2/100 / Kx3 
  1538 / 8697 
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[Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Durbin
"I realized that operating today in WPX that the  temp was reading over 43 c 
and no fans."

At what temperature did you expect the fans to start?  KPA500 switches fans on 
at 50 deg C.

Wouldn't the temperature readout be derived from the same thermistor that 
provides temperature for fan control?

73,
Andy, k3wyc
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[Elecraft] KPA1500 fans not working in auto mode

2020-03-30 Thread NK6A-Don Minkoff
Has anyone had a problem with the fans not turning on automatically in 
the KPA1500?


I realized that operating today in WPX that the  temp was reading over 
43 c and no fans.  Manually turned them on.  Reloaded firmware and still 
no fans when getting over 40 deg c.  Ser no. 316. Ver. 2.38.


I'll have to wait for Elecraft support but if anyone else has had this 
problem I would be interested in the fix.  Temp sensor?


--
Don Minkoff
NK6A

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Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ?

2020-03-30 Thread David Christ
I am older and getting a little hard of hearing.  The again and say again are 
so ingrained that I even use it with my wife.

David K0LUM

> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:11 AM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> I am an old Infantryman and Aviator.  And I have been out a long time, but I 
> STILL use many of the "pro-words"...
> 
> Especially, I spell, phonetic alphabet, at al
> I use "say again " in conversation without thinking  Hey, it 
> works.
> 
> 73,
> 
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[Elecraft] The K3 and config files.

2020-03-30 Thread David Olean
I just repaired an early K3 belonging to my brother.  When I got 
finished, I noted that his passband centering control (left knob) was 
inoperative on CW. My immediate thought was that maybe the encoder was 
NG, but it worked fine for SSB. Someone else had a similar problem 
recently and he re initialized his radio. I asked my bro how long this 
problem had gone on and he said "Maybe a year or two?"  I checked the K3 
UTIL files on my computer and I found an old file for his K3 dated 2016 
so I downloaded it and the problem went away and I did not have to go 
and re enter everything. It was a quick fix and rather painless.  My 
brother said that he had not altered much from the factory settings 
anyway, but it was nice not having to check filter offsets etc. So all 
this work got me to dig out my Cady K3 book and read it as nightime 
reading before I fall asleep.  There are so many interesting things that 
you can do to your K3, that it makes my head swim in total confusion!  I 
am sure the K4 will be mind boggling! My 1939 Bendix RA-10 aircraft 
receiver has  Volume, Tuning, BFO, and Band change knobs. I seem to 
handle that OK.


This past weekend, I used one of my own K3s in the WPX contest on 75 
meter phone and made a few 100 watt QSOs during the daytime. ( I have 
made only a handful of 80/75M contacts)  I noticed that there was a 
terrible noise occupying about 15 kHz of the band, but it showed up on 
the P3 as occupying the entire 200 kHz passband. I checked PLL voltages 
using the DISP button and saw that the old style synthesizer was falling 
out of lock. I had to perform a synthesizer CAL. Then all was well 
again.  I was reminded that I had not upgraded the synthesizers in this 
radio!


73

Dave K1WHS

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Re: [Elecraft] Identifying KAT500 fault condition

2020-03-30 Thread Lyn Norstad
Good to know, but would be nice if the KAT would display the fault as
expected.

Thanks Andy.

73
Lyn, W0LEN


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Andy Durbin
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Subject: [Elecraft] Identifying KAT500 fault condition

When the KAT500 trips a fault the fault light is lit but, unlike KPA500,
there is no front panel indication of which fault is active.  One would
expect the KAT500 Utility to display information on the active fault but it
does not.  E.g. -

KAT500 Utility (for Windows) ver 1.19.8.5 displays "No Fault" when FLT1 - No
Match is active.

The currently active KAT500 fault can be identified by using the utility
command tester.  Select the Command Tester tab.  Press "Clear".  Enter FLT;
in the command entry box.   The display box will then show FLT; and FLTx;
where x is the current fault code.  Fault codes are documented in KAT500
Serial Command Reference.

73,
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[Elecraft] Identifying KAT500 fault condition

2020-03-30 Thread Andy Durbin
When the KAT500 trips a fault the fault light is lit but, unlike KPA500, there 
is no front panel indication of which fault is active.  One would expect the 
KAT500 Utility to display information on the active fault but it does not.  
E.g. -

KAT500 Utility (for Windows) ver 1.19.8.5 displays "No Fault" when FLT1 - No 
Match is active.

The currently active KAT500 fault can be identified by using the utility 
command tester.  Select the Command Tester tab.  Press "Clear".  Enter FLT;  in 
the command entry box.   The display box will then show FLT; and FLTx; where x 
is the current fault code.  Fault codes are documented in KAT500 Serial Command 
Reference.

73,
Andy, k3wyc


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Re: [Elecraft] K vs. KN

2020-03-30 Thread Thorsten Fricke

Am 30.03.20 um 09:29 schrieb Bob DeHaney:
> Perhaps some German slipped in?  Komm = K = Come, Komm Nur = KN =
Come Only.
>

That is (almost) correct
- K = Kommen => come
- KN = Kommen nur => Come only (one single station)

>
> Vy 73 from a Social Distancing 80 yr old.  I’m finishing all those
little Ham Projects that were lying dormant on the bench.
>

Unfortunately I can (have) to do home office, so not really time, to
train to copy all the cw letters. Maybe I do have to be on the air to
train this...

>
> Stay Healthy de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T
>
Same to you and good luck with finishing all the dormant projects

Vy 73 de Thorsten, DH4FT
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Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ?

2020-03-30 Thread Andy McMullin via Elecraft
Yup. Exactly the same in the maritime world. All ships should be using the same 
prowords all around the world - it makes it easier to deal with maydays and 
cross-language communication, non-native speakers learn the prowords with 
translation to their own language. It goes alongside standard message formats 
to know what to expect next when you’re writing things down. For example the 
word “position” is followed by a lat and long. 

As I was told by our examiner for my civilian maritime licence: “repeating is 
what happens after you eat too many pickled onions, on the radio we say again”

Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> On 30 Mar 2020, at 07:14, Steve Witt  wrote:
> 
> On 03/29, Andy Durbin wrote:
>> "the prosign for "Please repeat,"or "I will repeat."
>> 
>> I was taught over 55 years ago that "repeat" was an artillery fire
>> control instruction that had no place in any communication except
>> for artillery fire control.  Surprising to me that IMI would be
>> defined that way.
>> 
>> In UK Signals, the phone phrases were "say again", "I say again",
>> and "say again words twice".
> 
> Also true in U.S. Army radiotelephone procedure, at least how we
> operated in the Signal Corps in the '70s and '80s when I was in. Never
> heard or was taught 'words twice'. One would realize (with experience)
> when key parts of the transmission should be said twice due to noise
> or other difficulty with the channel, usually because of being asked
> to 'say again' a few times. 
> 
> Asking for a retransmission:
>  'say again your last transmission'   
>  'say again all after'
>  'say again all before'
> 
> The response would be:
>  'I say again ...'
> 
> There is also 'I spell', when the word(s) weren't being received
> correctly. 
> 
> This was published in 'Allied Communications Pub 125: Communications
> Instructions -- Radiotelephone Procedures' (ACP 125), so these
> procedures should be somewhat standardized across NATO forces.
> 
> 
> 73,
> Steve K6ZX
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ?

2020-03-30 Thread Clay Autery
I am an old Infantryman and Aviator.  And I have been out a long time, 
but I STILL use many of the "pro-words"...


Especially, I spell, phonetic alphabet, at al
I use "say again " in conversation without thinking  Hey, 
it works.


73,

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On 03/30/20 01:13, Steve Witt wrote:


Also true in U.S. Army radiotelephone procedure, at least how we
operated in the Signal Corps in the '70s and '80s when I was in. Never
heard or was taught 'words twice'. One would realize (with experience)
when key parts of the transmission should be said twice due to noise
or other difficulty with the channel, usually because of being asked
to 'say again' a few times.

Asking for a retransmission:
   'say again your last transmission'
   'say again all after'
   'say again all before'

The response would be:
   'I say again ...'

There is also 'I spell', when the word(s) weren't being received
correctly.

This was published in 'Allied Communications Pub 125: Communications
Instructions -- Radiotelephone Procedures' (ACP 125), so these
procedures should be somewhat standardized across NATO forces.


73,
Steve K6ZX

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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread Clay Autery
Thanks for the response...  As I am not a "contesting expert", I have no 
opinion on the topic that I wish to put forward publicly.
I am actually "afraid" to get too enamored with contesting as my DNA has 
a tendency to drive me to extremes in anything I develop a passion for


 which is pretty much everything I put my hand to.  And I'm pretty 
fond of talking to and sleeping with my XYL...  



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On 03/30/20 00:34, donov...@starpower.net wrote:

Hi Clay,

This thread is a discussion about the relative performance of 
top-of-the-line

modern transceivers in the most demanding situations faced by serious SSB
contest competitors.  The vast majority of transceiver users have no 
concerns

about the performance of their transceiver under these conditions.

We're discussing the most demanding situations affecting transceiver
performance: weak -- often distorted -- SSB signals surrounded by
much stronger adjacent channel QRM.  For much of the time on
20 and especially 40 meters the adjacent much stronger signals overlap
well into the receiver bandwidth.   Typical spacing between SSB signals
is only 1.5 kHz, if you're lucky its 2.0 kHz and only rarely 2.5 kHz 
or more.

This situation is rather unimportant for the casual contester, but its a
game changer at the upper levels of serious SSB contest competition.

For transmitted SSB signals we're concerned about situations where our
transmitted signal is relatively weak and surrounded by much stronger
adjacent channel QRM. The adjacent signals usually overlap well into the
transmitted signal bandwidth and the other operator's receiver has
much lower performance that our top-of-the-line radio.

73
Frank
W3LPL



*From: *"Clay Autery" 
*To: *elecraft@mailman.qth.net
*Sent: *Monday, March 30, 2020 5:20:31 AM
*Subject: *Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

What is this "better" SSB performance of which you speak.

I am primarily a voice guy  And I am constantly complimented on the
quality of my transmissions.

How are defining "better" SSB performance?

73,

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On 03/29/20 11:32, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
> This is by far not an unbiased survey. Teams that travel on airplanes to
> get to WRTC will be strongly biased toward light weight radios such as
> the K3. Operators who do not travel by a irplane will be biased towards
> radios with much better SSB performance.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "K9FD" 
> To: "Paul Gacek" 
> Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:26:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...
>
> I agree Paul, and my comment was to play the stats in jest.
>
> when the glass is half full you can see it from both sides,
>
> I did that to stir the Elecraft kool aide crew.
>
> Having contested many many years in my past life, I dont own
> 3 - K3 radios because they are losers, and nope I am not in the
> class of any one who qualifies for WRTC. not even close,
> and at 75 I am not progressing any longer, I am on the slipping
> side of downhill.
>
> 73 Merv K9FD
>
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[Elecraft] K vs. KN

2020-03-30 Thread Bob DeHaney
Perhaps some German slipped in?  Komm = K = Come, Komm Nur = KN = Come Only.

 

Vy 73 from a Social Distancing 80 yr old.  I’m finishing all those little Ham 
Projects that were lying dormant on the bench.

 

Stay Healthy de Bob DJ0RD/WU5T

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread donovanf
Hi Jim, 


You're probably correct about design compromises made with technologies 
available and affordable 14 years ago. Its probably not a coincidence 
that all of the top-shelf modern radios have a leg up on the K3 in 
the most severe competitive contest environments 


Think about what less than 14 years of improvement brought to the market 
in the post-World War II environment and the vast performance differential 
between the offerings from Collins and every one of their competitors: 
- 75A-1 1947 
- 75A-4 1956 
- KWM-1 1957 
- S-Line 1958 


Its amazing that the amateur radio HF transceiver market continues to drive 
significant performance improvements after all these years, just as it did 
from the earliest days of HF radio. 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: "Jim Brown"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2020 5:45:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three... 

On 3/29/2020 10:02 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote: 
> You would have to seriously compete in an SSB contest with some of the 
> more modern radios in very crowded bands to fully appreciate how much 
> better the more modern technologies are for both transmit and receive signal 
> quality. The latest Flex radios are almost shockingly good, but all of the 
> top-shelf modern radios are significantly better performers than the 
> 12 year old K3 or even the K3S. 

Thanks Frank. Soon after he got his Flex 6700, his two key impressions 
were 1) it was the best radio he'd ever owned; and 2) the designers of 
the radio and it's software/firmware didn't have a clue about USING 
radios on the air. #2 was so bad that they didn't even understand the 
problems. Thankfully, guys like N6WM, K9CT, and I'm sure others, stepped 
in to educate them. :) 

I'm not a digital guy, but having worked in pro audio most of my 
professional life, some concepts have rubbed off. If I were to speculate 
on the shortcomings of the K3/K3S you've noted, it would be that the 
system wasn't designed with enough bits and bandwidth. But that all 
depends on the parts you can buy for a product that must sell for a 
price that customers can pay, and, as you've noted, those design 
decisions were likely made in 2006. And from where I sit, I've always 
viewed Wayne and Eric as marketing geniuses (in the best sense of that). 

73, Jim K9YC 
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Re: [Elecraft] Not moving your wrist sending CW ?

2020-03-30 Thread Steve Witt
On 03/29, Andy Durbin wrote:
> "the prosign for "Please repeat,"or "I will repeat."
> 
> I was taught over 55 years ago that "repeat" was an artillery fire
> control instruction that had no place in any communication except
> for artillery fire control.  Surprising to me that IMI would be
> defined that way.
> 
> In UK Signals, the phone phrases were "say again", "I say again",
> and "say again words twice".

Also true in U.S. Army radiotelephone procedure, at least how we
operated in the Signal Corps in the '70s and '80s when I was in. Never
heard or was taught 'words twice'. One would realize (with experience)
when key parts of the transmission should be said twice due to noise
or other difficulty with the channel, usually because of being asked
to 'say again' a few times. 

Asking for a retransmission:
  'say again your last transmission'   
  'say again all after'
  'say again all before'

The response would be:
  'I say again ...'

There is also 'I spell', when the word(s) weren't being received
correctly. 

This was published in 'Allied Communications Pub 125: Communications
Instructions -- Radiotelephone Procedures' (ACP 125), so these
procedures should be somewhat standardized across NATO forces.


73,
Steve K6ZX



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Re: [Elecraft] The Big Three...

2020-03-30 Thread Jim Brown

On 3/29/2020 10:45 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

Thanks Frank. Soon after he got his Flex 6700, his two key impressions were


I failed to identify the speaker -- it was K6TD, a fine engineer, 
serious contester, and veteran of multiple DX trips.


73, Jim K9YC
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