Re: [Elecraft] Beware of junk mail: "four pictures to you from Elecraft List"

2024-01-02 Thread Jim Brown

On 1/2/2024 6:10 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

Tbird is what I have used for years.


Same here. It's very well designed software. That ability to see the raw 
code in an email can be helpful with issues like this.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Beware of junk mail: "four pictures to you from Elecraft List"

2024-01-02 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR

Tbird is what I have used for years.

73, Pete N4ZR

On 1/2/2024 6:24 PM, Alan D. Wilcox wrote:


Thunderbird has a useful feature:  View->Message Source
If anything questionable comes in, I can check the source without 
opening the email and triggering .


Cheers, Alan

Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K3S-10457, SKCC 22955)
570-916-9590 (cell, text)
https://WilcoxEngineering.com
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768  ... Elecraft Client Comments
http://amazon.com/author/alandwilcox
Williamsport, PA 17701
On 1/2/24 17:26, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
This underlines how important it is to use an e-mail program that 
displays the originating address.  That "you've won a ..." e-mail 
from a major retailer is quickly revealed to be from some obscure 
address (not Home Depot or Walmart, after all).  A couple of days 
ago, I received a message purportedly from a relative of my 
sister-in-law, who passed away last fall. Happily, the originating 
address was a giveaway - "Amanda Rosman 
".


73, Pete N4ZR

On 1/2/2024 4:13 PM, Dave wrote:

I don't know if anyone else on the Elecraft list is receiving this
nonsense, but I have reported it for enforcement action to the UK
Government reporting centre.

73 Dave G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] Beware of junk mail: "four pictures to you from Elecraft List"

2024-01-02 Thread jerry

The email address means little.  Email systems will accept whatever you
type in.  What's more meaningful is the originating IP address.  That's
hard to fake.  Most mailers have a "show headers" feature so you can see
all the machines that the email passed through.

   - Jerry, KF6VB


On 2024-01-02 14:26, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:

This underlines how important it is to use an e-mail program that
displays the originating address.  That "you've won a ..."  e-mail
from a major retailer is quickly revealed to be from some obscure
address (not Home Depot or Walmart, after all).  A couple of days ago,
I received a message purportedly from a relative of my sister-in-law,
who passed away last fall.  Happily, the originating address was a
giveaway - "Amanda Rosman ".

73, Pete N4ZR

On 1/2/2024 4:13 PM, Dave wrote:

I don't know if anyone else on the Elecraft list is receiving this
nonsense, but I have reported it for enforcement action to the UK
Government reporting centre.

73 Dave G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500 + KPA-500 / SWR Thresholds

2024-01-02 Thread Wes

If it was easy, then anyone could do it.

On 1/2/2024 8:52 AM, G4GNX wrote:

Why battle against the inevitable, rather than use a band that’s more 
appropriate for the time of day? Unless of course, all bands are dead - then 
we’re all screwed. 

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700



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Re: [Elecraft] Beware of junk mail: "four pictures to you from Elecraft List"

2024-01-02 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
This underlines how important it is to use an e-mail program that 
displays the originating address.  That "you've won a ..."  e-mail from 
a major retailer is quickly revealed to be from some obscure address 
(not Home Depot or Walmart, after all).  A couple of days ago, I 
received a message purportedly from a relative of my sister-in-law, who 
passed away last fall.  Happily, the originating address was a giveaway 
- "Amanda Rosman ".


73, Pete N4ZR

On 1/2/2024 4:13 PM, Dave wrote:

I don't know if anyone else on the Elecraft list is receiving this
nonsense, but I have reported it for enforcement action to the UK
Government reporting centre.

73 Dave G4AON
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[Elecraft] Beware of junk mail: "four pictures to you from Elecraft List"

2024-01-02 Thread Dave
I don't know if anyone else on the Elecraft list is receiving this
nonsense, but I have reported it for enforcement action to the UK
Government reporting centre.

73 Dave G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500 + KPA-500 / SWR Thresholds

2024-01-02 Thread G4GNX
Why battle against the inevitable, rather than use a band that’s more 
appropriate for the time of day? Unless of course, all bands are dead - then 
we’re all screwed. 

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700




> On 2 Jan 2024, at 15:12, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> 
> "Presumably it has some very sophisticated detection that can tell if a 
> frequency is in use?"
> 
> My auto trainer function is only used on 160 m and 80 m and only during the 
> day when I expect the bands to be dead and as confirmed by the panadapter.   
> It doesn't need a detection system any more sophisticated than a mark one 
> eyeball.
> 
> My problem on 160 and 80 is not that I will cause QRM.  My problem is 
> radiating a signal strong enough to make a QSO.
> 
> Andy, k3wyc

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[Elecraft] Fw: KAT-500 + KPA-500 / SWR Thresholds

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Durbin


"Presumably it has some very sophisticated detection that can tell if a 
frequency is in use?"

My auto trainer function is only used on 160 m and 80 m and only during the day 
when I expect the bands to be dead and as confirmed by the panadapter.   It 
doesn't need a detection system any more sophisticated than a mark one eyeball.

My problem on 160 and 80 is not that I will cause QRM.  My problem is radiating 
a signal strong enough to make a QSO.

Andy, k3wyc



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[Elecraft] Check your rig (was KAT-500 + KPA-500 / SWR Thresholds)

2024-01-02 Thread Tom N4LSJ
*I know your issue is resolved* but this MIGHT help some people using an 
IC7300 with the KAT.


I had a "kinda" similar problem where the ATU would always tune if I 
changed bands.  I had programmed the computer to send the new freq, then 
a "memory tune" to the tuner if I switched bands, so I could always 
"instant QSY" but it turns out there was a setting on the RIG that was 
telling rig to activate the tuner to tune every time I QSYed more than a 
certain amount.  It was called "PTT Start" and was turned "ON" which 
means if frequency moves more than 1% then tune next time PTT is 
pushed.  It took lots of frustration to finally find this issue.  After 
turning that off, the KAT happily memory tunes to the frequency I send 
it and I can call a station with no tuning.


Tom N4LSJ

On 1/1/24 19:46, Jeff Wandling wrote:

Thanks.  That's good detail.  I'll recheck the manual once more.  I made a 
common mistake of assuming too much and not reading enough.   I have tremendous 
respect and faith in the engineering put into the system of the Elecraft line.. 
 That's a  long way of saying, It works brilliantly.

I just want to avoid a mistake in where the ATU-500 and KPA-500 are trying to 
resolve a tune whilst the CW spews forth.

This comment and the prior comment about the Kenwood aspect (and related 
command-set mentioned) are interesting.   Thanks.

Aside from all that -- when folks here use the "SWR Thresholds" and use the 
K3+KAT+KPA chain via Aux Serial data sharing -- what do you use for the three metrics in 
SWR Thresholds?

There's a KPA Inhibit SWR,   Re-tune SWR and Bypass SWR value.  The recommended 
values in the manuals seem frightfully high for my nerves to handle.

Any advice on *that* would be welcomed.

HNY, Thanks.

---
73, Jeff  W7BRS
https://blog.w7brs.com



On Monday, January 1st, 2024 at 4:37 PM, G4GNX  wrote:



AFAICR the manual says that if an AUX cable is connected between the KAT500 and 
the radio, the KAT500 will follow any frequency/band change and if a tuning 
solution has already been stored for that frequency/band it will be employed 
before the radio goes into TX. In other words, whilst the radio is still in RX 
mode.

However, elsewhere in the manual it says that when the KAT500 receives RF, it 
will also pickup the nearest tuning solution, which is a fail-safe action in 
case the KAT500 does not receive data from the radio, for any reason.

This is only if the radio is a K3, K3S or K4 and if a KPA500 is in use, RF from 
it is sent to the KAT500 but the AUX cable must be connected AFTER the KAT500. 
i.e. K3———KAT500———KPA500.

I make no comment about using the KAT500 with a Kenwood (or other) rig.

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700




On 1 Jan 2024, at 21:56, Andy Durbin a.dur...@msn.com wrote:

"> How does your KAT500 know what frequency to use? Does it have a serial data 
interface or does it depend only on the internal RF counter?

W7BRS> AUX cable between K3 to KAT-500 and KAT-500 to KPA-500. They are in 
serial communication per Elecraft protcol(s), whatever those are.


What KAT500 mode (AUTO, MAN, BYP) is selected when you observe this anomaly?

W7BRS> Per manual for KAT-500/KPA-500 the stated "nominal" mode is MAN. So I leave 
the KAT-500 in MAN after tuning the antenna to 1.1."

Your problem sounded a bit like the conflict between serial data frequency and RF count 
when operating near a "bin" boundary. However, my only experience with that 
problem is with Kenwood rigs using serial data to provide frequency to KAT500. I have no 
experience with AUXBus.

For Kenwood owners one solution was to use the FDT command to desensitize the 
RF counter so serial data frequency always had priority. The command 
description implies it is equally applicable to AUXBus so may be worth 
experimenting.

"FDT Frequency Counter Distance for Retune
GET format: FDT;
SET/RESPONSE format: FDT nn; where nn is the distance, in kHz, between the 
current ATU frequency and the most recent TX frequency count for the ATU to 
change ATU settings to the new frequency. The value is between 0 (interpreted 
as the default of 10 kHz) thru 65535, which disables ATU tuning based on 
frequency count. This is intended for customers that prefer the KAT500 only 
follow the frequency provided by a serial port command or the K3/K3S/K4 AUXBUS, 
or select a minimum distance between current ATU frequency and a newly counted 
frequency.
FDT was introduced in firmware version 01.99."

Andy, k3wyc


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT-500 + KPA-500 / SWR Thresholds

2024-01-02 Thread G4GNX
I did not say that you can’t train in manual mode. I said AUTO should only be 
used for training - not for normal operation.

I really hope that your one button push takes account of other users on the 
band when you’re training. Presumably it has some very sophisticated detection 
that can tell if a frequency is in use?

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700


>> On 2 Jan 2024, at 02:33, Andy Durbin  wrote:
>> 
>> "One thing I forgot. The KAT500 should only be in AUTO mode when you’re 
>> actually training it."
>> 
>> Training a KAT500 does not require it to be in AUTO mode.  I NEVER put my 
>> KAT500 in AUTO mode and I can auto train a complete band with one button 
>> push.
>> 
>> Andy, k3wyc
>> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Using a RSP1a as a Panadapter

2024-01-02 Thread Jerry Moore
Andy, I used an SDR for a while and found it more trouble than it was worth 
imho. I just wanted something to work without any fuss so I splurged and picked 
up the P3. No regrets at all. 
Hope that helps. 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Andy Durbin
Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 7:25 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Using a RSP1a as a Panadapter

"I see some people are using HDSDR software - I did try installing that, but it 
insists on using OmniRig v2, whereas my Logging program (Log4OM) and WSJT-X use 
OmniRig v1.1 and I'm not sure I can make the swap to Omnirig 2."

I use an RSP with OmniRig 1.20 and HDSDR 2.76a.  Support for OmniRig 1 was 
removed in HDSDR 2.80.  The combination makes a very useful panadapter and I 
find it unfortunate that the original OmniRig is no longer supported.

Andy, k3wyc
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[Elecraft] Using a RSP1a as a Panadapter

2024-01-02 Thread Andy Durbin
"I see some people are using HDSDR software - I did try installing that, but it 
insists on using OmniRig v2, whereas my Logging program (Log4OM) and WSJT-X use 
OmniRig v1.1 and I'm not sure I can make the swap to Omnirig 2."

I use an RSP with OmniRig 1.20 and HDSDR 2.76a.  Support for OmniRig 1 was 
removed in HDSDR 2.80.  The combination makes a very useful panadapter and I 
find it unfortunate that the original OmniRig is no longer supported.

Andy, k3wyc
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[Elecraft] Using a RSP1a as a Panadapter

2024-01-02 Thread Paul Barlow
Dear Elecrafters,

Again, I am late to the party. Santa brought me a SDRPlay RSP1a SDR which I had 
hoped to use as an IF panadapter for my K3/10. Unfortunately this isn't going 
as well as I hoped. I don't seem to be able to get proper panadapter function 
using the SDRUno software - it's perhaps no accident that although the company 
produce videos about setting a panadapter they are effectively second receivers 
using the antenna input, rather than the IF output. I know I could go down this 
route by looping the RX our RX in sockets with a tap for panadapter input, but 
I had hoped to use the IF out.

I see some people are using HDSDR software - I did try installing that, but it 
insists on using OmniRig v2, whereas my Logging program (Log4OM) and WSJT-X use 
OmniRig v1.1 and I'm not sure I can make the swap to Omnirig 2.

Are there users who have some experience of this who can help? I know the 
obvious answer is to source a P3, but getting a P3 from the Us which starts out 
at say USD 750 is likely to set me back close to USD 1000 because of freight 
costs and taxes by the time it's in my shack in Dublin.

Happy New Year to all.

73,

Paul EI5KI


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