Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!

2007-12-20 Thread Goody K3NG

David Pratt wrote:

In a recent message Goody K3NG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of 
running into the FCC today are slim to none.  If you don't identify 
with your ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB 
frequencies, it's unlikely anyone, even the FCC will know a 
difference, or even care.


It is the tendency these days for radio amateurs of all nations to 
self-regulate.  So let us do just that and use equipment which is 
legal. A CB transceiver can be bought for just a few $, so let's act 
responsibly and keep the hobbies separate without complicating the 
issue any further.  It is fortunate that the CB bands can be disabled 
in K3 firmware.



My point is not that the K3 should be a CB transceiver, nor am I 
encouraging someone to use it regularly on CB bands or combine the 
hobbies.  The point is it would be prudent to have the capability there 
if you need it.  I'm not disputing that in normal situations legal CB 
transceivers are cheap and readily available.  The reality is in 
abnormal situations (i.e. emergencies) they're not readily available.  
It doesn't matter to me if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere that 
Walmart is selling  CBs for $15, I don't have a Walmart that I can get 
to.  It doesn't matter that I own a cheap CB if it happens to be at my 
house if I'm a hundred miles away.  While we can preach with blue skies 
that everyone should be prepared and carry a CB, the fact of the matter 
is that we can't carry in our vehicles or on our person at every moment 
every possible tool needed in an emergency.  CB disabled on the K3 is 
like the little saw removed on a Swiss Army knife.


Jim Cundiff KB3GFC wrote:

If you can afford $3K for a radio and have the time and desire to 
volunteer, spend a hundred bucks and buy the CB if you want to TX there!


sigh It's not about the money.  If it was, anyone could buy a ham rig 
already on the market cheaper than the K3 that can TX in the CB band and 
amateur bands.


In summary (to the group), it seems the point of this no-TX-in-the-CB 
band feature isn't to keep law-abiding amateurs legal, it's to keep 
non-hams from using it for a glorified CB.  As I've mentioned earlier, 
the price point, appearance, marketing, and features of the K3 take this 
so far out of the law-breaking CBer demographic, it's silly to think 
there would be widespread use of K3s on CB bands in areas where it was 
illegal.  The potential benefits of having CB TX available far outweigh 
the risks.  Not to get mellowdramatic, but it seems often in amateur 
radio today, we've thrown out common sense and practical reality for 
legalistic and/or idealistic principles.  That is what several of the 
arguments here are doing.


Everyone (in the US) should keep a paper copy of Part 95 and 97 with 
them for emergencies -- it makes a good fire starter.


73
K3NG
Goody

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Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!

2007-12-19 Thread Goody K3NG
I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities.  In fact, I think 
it should be configurable by the end user.  Let me explain.


Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards to 
Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at 
meetings.  As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate on 
non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB.  Sometimes in a disaster situation 
you may need to communicate with non-hams who are only equipped with FRS 
or CB.  One prime example of this in a drill we did was a trucker coming 
in to deliver supplies to a shelter.  We needed to talk in the driver 
to the shelter over CB.


As far as soiling your K3, look at it this way; you'll probably have 
the sweetest, cleanest sounding AM signal on the CB band :-)  Yea, I 
know it's not type accepted for use in CB/Part 95, but neither are the 
thousands of amplifiers and specially tuned chrome monsters you see on 
eBay each day.  Also, any CBer wanting a hot signal isn't going to buy 
an Elecraft K3.  For much less money they can buy one of those garbage 
rigs and a six pill amp with more so-called talk power.


All my rigs are modified for DC to daylight transmit.  Do I ever use 
it?  No, but it's good to know that if I'm ever put in the situation I 
can fire up communications on most any band in a heartbeat.  Sure, I can 
wreak havoc on any band as well with my equipment and its expanded 
functionality, but that's why we're licensed amateurs.we know not to 
do that stuff and we have the know how and motivation to use our powers 
for good, not evil


73
Goody
K3NG

Ken Kopp wrote:

Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in the 27 mHz
CB band as built.  Surely no self-respecting Elecraft owner
would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB band!  The
radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to transmit
there.

It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't know of a
legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz anywhere
in the world.

Say it isn't so, please 





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Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!

2007-12-19 Thread Goody K3NG
I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of running 
into the FCC today are slim to none.  If you don't identify with your 
ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB frequencies, it's 
unlikely anyone, even the FCC will know a difference, or even care.  The 
FCC can't even enforce Part 95 today, except for the occasional bust of 
Joe's Radio Shop selling souped up CBs and amps.  And if you look at 
their recent creative interpretation of harmful interference in Part 
15 in regards to BPL it would appear that the FCC is taking a more 
liberal approach to the rules.  Today's FCC is more concerned with Janet 
Jackson and figuring out how to maintain telco monopolies, but I digress 
:-)  I think the only time the FCC would ever know about an occurrence 
of a ham using a ham rig out of band during an emergency would be if 
another ham reported them to the FCC.  One would have to ask what the 
true motives are of someone doing this.


I do carry an FRS and CB radio in my communications go kit, but if 
either of them don't work for any reason during an event, I won't 
hesitate to use one of my ham rigs.  If the FCC has lost its last 
vestige of common sense and wants to fine me, I'll turn in my license as 
it's no longer worth my time and effort to volunteer my services.


I'm disappointed the K3 won't transmit on its entire receive range.  
We're amateur radio operators, not toddlers trying to get into the 
cabinet under the sink.


Phil Kane wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:12:05 -0500, Goody K3NG wrote:

  

Recently our county has been getting its act together in regards
to Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational programs at
meetings.  As an amateur, you need to be prepared to communicate
on non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB.  Sometimes in a disaster
situation you may need to communicate with non-hams who are only
equipped with FRS or CB.  One prime example of this in a drill we
did was a trucker coming in to deliver supplies to a shelter.  We
needed to talk in the driver to the shelter over CB.



  And what excuse are you going to rely on if the FCC declares that
  the out-of-band communication did not meet the very specific
  and narrow window permitting any frequency, any power?

  When I was on the FCC enforcement staff I served on severalv
  investigations of such situations, and although you may feel
  that given the same facts there was no other choice, none of
  the out-of-band situations was found to meet the requirements.

  The answer to the CB/FRS problem?  Use the proper radios.
  All of our comm centers and EOCs have them - they are very
  cheap.  Plan ahead.

  It's your license on the line, as well as seizure and
  forfeiture of your radio equipment.

  'Nuff said.
  

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line

2007-11-15 Thread Goody K3NG
Using any balun with an unbalanced tuner to feed balanced line can be 
bad news (your mileage may vary, standard disclaimers apply).  Under 
highly reactive loads, a balun used like this can become quite lossy.  
There's a couple articles in publications and on the Internet on this, 
but Cebik's article is one that comes to mind ( 
http://www.cebik.com/link/l-bal.html ).  It's better to run a real 
balanced tuner like a Johnson Matchbox, the MFJ Balanced Line tuner, or 
others, if you can.


Don Wilhelm wrote:

Curt,

There seems to be a misconception among hams that when using 450 
ladder line, a 4:1 balun is the best thing to use.  While that may be 
true in some cases, in many other cases, a 1:1 balun will serve 
better.  It all depends on the feedpoint impedance of the feedline at 
the shack end, and that has little relationship with the fact that 450 
ohm line is being used - i.e. the  feedpoint impedance is *not* the 
characteristic impedance of the transmission line in most cases.  The 
feedpoint impedance looking into the shack end of a multiband antenna 
can vary from extremely low to extremely high - it all depends on the 
length of the antenna and the length of the feedline.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: mine is NOT on the way

2007-11-10 Thread Goody K3NG
My order number from July 16th is 1974-3920-2556 so there must be some 
1,085,630,000 K3s ordered between your order and mine!  I don't think 
I'll be getting mine by Christmassigh...and I was hoping for a three 
digit serial number...I can hear the QSOs now...


UR RST 599 - NAME IS GOODY - RIG HR IS K3 SN 1275620967 ? 1275620967 QSL?

:-)

But seriously, it would be nice to see on the website what invoice/order 
date is currently shipping.


David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Where are you guy's getting you invoice number from?
Mine ordered 2-May, is order # 1963-5357-1884
I haven't seen a email or anything with an 'invoice' number

On 10/11/07 11:15, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

  



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OT: [Elecraft] Sweepstakes

2007-11-05 Thread Goody K3NG
Is there anything in the rules that wouldn't allow one to start with a 
high serial number, like 800 instead of 1 :-)  ???


Joe-aa4nn wrote:

In my early days of contesting I would shy away from contests
having a serial number in the exchange.  It was for me a big
time thing to fall behind in the numbers, really embarrassing.
But no more.  As I entered Sweepstakes early Sunday
afternoon I found it interesting that ops would often ask for
a repeat to confirm my unexpected low serial number.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft vs. Heath.

2007-10-01 Thread Goody K3NG
Case in point, how many Icom/Yaesu/Kenwood rigs do you see dedicated to 
220 Mhz or even multi-band VHF/UHF rigs with 220 capability?


Julian G4ILO wrote:

I think that the Japanese manufacturers are influenced most by the
Japanese market which, from what I've read, is a lot different to the
rest of the world.

  

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[Elecraft] K3 'puter Architecture Question

2007-09-25 Thread Goody K3NG
I'm curious what controller/microprocessor(s) is/are used in the K3 and 
what languages or development tools are used to program it at Elecraft?


TIA
73
Goody
K3NG

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Re: [Elecraft] Time to Move On

2007-09-12 Thread Goody K3NG
You could desolder all the components in the modules, put them in little 
bags, and then solder them back on the boards.  That would make it a 
rather challenging kit.



nr5a wrote:
I guess its time for me to move on.  The K3 was such a disapointing 
let down that I sold my K2.  I'm sorry but prebuilt modules does not a 
kit make.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW keyer

2007-09-10 Thread Goody K3NG
Forgive my ignorance, but how many other commercial rigs have ultimatic 
keying?


JACrux wrote:
Iambic keying is a relic of tube keyers where flip flops were used to generate 
alternating dots/dashes.  Ultimatic keying where the last paddle closed takes 
command is much more user friendly. Looks like I shall have to drive the K3 
with my external keyer  pity.

John G3JAG

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Hotel antenna

2007-09-04 Thread Goody K3NG
My last business trip I used an old Barker  Williamson apartment 
antenna from the 6th floor.  They offer a newer model today (AP-10) that 
is basically the same thing with a tapped coil.  This antenna is good if 
you have a balcony or a window that opens without a screen.


On a previous trip I tried a wire down the side of the hotel from the 
third floor with a ground counterpoise in the room.  It was a dummy load.


I've heard of many people using two Slinkies for a shortened 40m 
dipole.  I've been told stretched out six or eight feet they resonate on 40.


As others have mentioned, operating from hotels is a crap shoot.  You're 
never sure what windows you're going to have in a room and there's noise 
sources galore.  Make sure you have a rental car or it's open bar at the 
conferences if ham radio operating is a bust :-)


Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:

OT I know, but it does relate to my K2 ;-)

Wondering if anyone on the list might have a recommendation for a simple QRP
antenna for use in a hotel? My wife is attending a conference in Chicago in
a couple of weeks and I'm going with. When she booked the hotel, I just
asked that we get a room as high as possible. I'm not sure what we got yet.

I'm taking my K2 (I bought a nice Pelican case for it a few months ago) and
a few spools of small enameled wire. I was thinking of just using a 65' end
fed with a 1/4 wavelength counterpoise for 40m operation. I've also done
some reading on the W3EDP antenna. 


Anyone have some decent experiences out there? Or, bad ones that I should
stay away from? 


Dave W8FGU
K2 #5099

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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 CW-DATA Feature

2007-08-30 Thread Goody K3NG
Hell is easier than you think to generate and decode (easier than CW 
from a machine point of view, IMO).  I considered making a PIC do it.  
The biggest challenge with that is the dot matrix LCD display code.


Julian G4ILO wrote:

Hellschreiber? You're kidding, right?

  



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
A stupid choice? In my meager 18 year IT  Electronics career I've never 
seen a D-sub failure beyond mashed pins (which was due to operator error 
or abuse). I've seen these go through hundreds of matings with no 
problem. Also, you can still get these connectors at Radio Shaft, so I 
think it's a great choice, better than those DIN connectors that are 
much more of a pain to locate, solder, and assemble (especially the 
mini-DINs). The fact that it's a 15 pin connector makes it even more 
available as it's a computer SVGA port connector. You can go to Circuit 
City and purchase an SVGA extension cable, cut off one end and you have 
a prefab cable (no connector soldering).


And how is the D-Sub connector new? I think these things have been 
around since the 70's?


What connector should they use? Please don't suggest a Jones connector 
or those round metal Amphenol waterproof connectors. We don't need 20 
amp connections and a connector that will withstand combat. An RG-45 
might be a candidate, but it has half the pins and arguably isn't as 
robust as a D sub. (An outright bad choice would have been one of those 
72 pin SCSI connectors.)


72
Goody
K3NG


Charles Harpole wrote:
Along with the Anderson power poles, here is another bad choice for 
connector... the multi pin thing that is now used on computers for 
serial and parallel interface (in some pin number or other) was a 
stupid choice on computers and is even worse on a ham rig. My 
electronic engineer tells me these things were designed for about 25 
plug and unplug prior to expected failure.


Not counting the difficulty of soldering to these tiny things. What 
have modern technicans in the ham world... got against EASY 

And why think NEW is the same as BETTER ?
Did u ever step on one of these things?

I hope I misunderstood the connector name.

Gee wizz.

Oh, yes, keep my K3 order current !
Charles Harpole
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Accessory Connector

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
Cinch Jones made sense back when you needed pins to handle 10 or 15 amps 
of filament supply and manufacturing couldn't technically or 
economically produce some of the connectors we have today.  It's an 
antiquated connector for things like audio and control lines.


I always thought the Molex connector was one of the cheesiest connectors 
around and I would choose binding posts as a standard over these.  It's 
more a mate-once and forget about it connector.  I think the robustness 
of a Molex and an APP is about the same (doing the step on in test), 
however the genderless nature of APP puts it over the top.  APP is now a 
standard, period.


Have you used an APP?  It's a piece of cake to insert a bare wire into 
one of these, either on the mating end or the cable end and on *any* 
connector since they have no gender.  With a DB-9/15/25 it's easy to 
insert a small gauge wire into a female connector (which is what I 
believe is used on the K3), and arguably easier to get positive contact 
than you will on a slotted Jones female pin.


The soldering argument against the D sub connector is a moot issue.  As 
I mentioned earlier, cheap prefab cables are available at your local 
mall.  Even Wally World probably has them.  You can even snip the cables 
off of dead monitors in the dumpster at the office.  It doesn't get much 
easier and is in the true scrounger spirit of Amateur Radio.




Charles Harpole wrote:



THEN, you can welcome these toy (D) or non standard (APP) connectors.  
What is better, altho old stuff--- Cinch Jones (or even Molex) and 
below that, screw terminal strips and/or  binding posts.  If u r stuck 
with only bare wire and MUST make a connection, sticking a bare wire 
tip into a Jones socket is DO-ABLE, or even into a Molex try that 
with D s and even with the APPs.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Ten Minute Timer

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
That's the amount of time from the first post for a connector holy war 
or shipping schedule discussion to break out on the reflector :-)


David Pratt wrote:

In a recent message, Ron Durie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
Is it be possible for the K3 FIRMWARE to provide a 10 minute timer 
function

using the Real Time Clock?


What is the significance of ten minutes, Ron?  Surely it doesn't take 
that long to boil an egg ;-)


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Reference Oscillator

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
I've often wondered what the purpose of optional high stability 
reference oscillators in HF rigs is.  A couple hertz between friends on 
CW, SSB, or AM isn't noticeable.  Even PSK can handle slow drift quite 
well.  Is there some other mystery mode or application that requires the 
rubidium oscillator-like stability people seem to spend money on and 
crave? (Folks using transverters on microwave bands??)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Ten Minute Timer

2007-08-29 Thread Goody K3NG
Can the K3 tune in various time signals on HF, look at the delays from 
each, triangulate, determine what country you're in, and then 
automagically set the ID timer accordingly?


ducking  :-)

72
Goody
K3NG

David Pratt wrote:

In a recent message, JT Croteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...

On 8/29/07, David Pratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the significance of ten minutes, Ron?  Surely it doesn't take
that long to boil an egg ;-)


One must ID every ten minutes so this is likely the case.


Ah, but it's every 15 minutes in the UK. Maybe this is what Eric/Wayne 
meant when they said that each K3 would be configured for the country 
it was being sent to.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for August 26th 27th, 2007

2007-08-27 Thread Goody K3NG

Minor update:

K3NG - Goody - K1 #505

Thanks for hearing me!

72
Goody
K3NG

Kevin Rock wrote:

Good Evening,
   Yeowch!  By the end of the 40 meter net my head was starting to 
hurt.  I just spent a few minutes on the deck listening to the trees 
and watching it get dark.  I reported S7 noise which is very unusual 
considering those storms are very far to my east.  Hopefully I heard 
you calling but there were a lot of stations on the air which were not 
very strong.


   On to the lists =

On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
W3MC - Mike - MD - K2 - 5568
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138
K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993
AK2B - Tom - NY - K2 - 4482
EI6IZ - Brendan - Ireland - K2 - 1642
WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392
NO8V - John - MI - Kenwood with K2 in waiting
K3NG - Goody - PA - K2 - 5056
N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471
K4TO - Dave - KY - Ten Tec Orion
N5SM - Scott - TX - K2 - 5846
K5NU - Mike - TX - K2 - 381
W8SU - Bob - OH - K2 - 6146
W3MC - Mike - MD - K1 - ?  Or is it KX1 - 1797?

On 7045 kHz at 0200z:
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K2 - 5345
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138
WD4LST - Pete - FL - K2 - 5813
N0SS - Tom - MO - K3 - 008
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
K6YUU - Yuki - CA - K2 - 3121
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
K9ZTV - Kent - MOQNI #10!
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942QNI #20!!
W0JFR - John - CO - ?
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866QNI #75
N8DQU - Allan - MI - ?
K4TO - Dave - KY - Ten Tec Orion QNI #20!!
K5NU - Mike - TX - K2 - 381
NI0C - Chuck - MO - K2 - 5853
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993 QNI #115!
WA6TQJ - Gary - CA - ?

   My headache is not going away.  I think I will cut this short and 
get to bed so I can get up for work early tomorrow.  I am not sure if 
I dug deep enough for all the information.  It may still be in my 
notes but was not readily available on the first search.  I'll see if 
I can find some time tomorrow to get some of the blanks filled in.

   Until next week stay well and out of the way of tornados!
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keyer

2007-08-22 Thread Goody K3NG
I don't think it's the keyer's fault; the keyer is just responsible for 
timing.  My keyer code emulates a bug mode; in regular iambic or bug 
mode, a Bencher paddle is going to feel..welllike a Bencher 
paddle :-)


72
Goody
K3NG


Vic K2VCO wrote:

Tom Hammond wrote:

This having been said... I've used a number of keyers which purported 
to offer a 'bug' mode and none(!) have ever felt anywhere near 
'right'... and I've used bugs for DECADES...


This is because a whole lot of the feel of a bug comes from the 
momentum of the weight swinging back and forth. A 'bug mode' keyer is 
a pale imitation.



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Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ: Just ordered my K3!

2007-08-20 Thread Goody K3NG
November?  I placed my order a month ago and I assumed I'd be in the 
December batch.  Should I expect Christmas in October ??!!  :-)


72
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Bruce Beford wrote:

Ed-

Placing an order today, you should be in the round that starts shipping in
November.
Line forms to the rear. g
-Bruce N1RX

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[Elecraft] OT: ESSB

2007-08-12 Thread Goody K3NG
I don't think ESSB is the spawn of Satan, but I'd encourage people who 
want to experiment with high fidelity to do digital voice instead and 
experiment with digital compression techniques.  It seems to me that 
creating ESSB isn't much of a challenge.  Open up your filtering on the 
IF chain and bingo, you have ESSB.  Try digitizing 10 or 20 kHz of audio 
and crunching it into a 2.7 khz channel; that's a challenge.


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K3NG
k1 #505
k3 #???

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Re: [Elecraft] 50 and 75 ohm BNC Connectors

2007-08-02 Thread Goody K3NG
Forgive my ignorance, but what applications above 1 Ghz use 75 ohm 
impedances?  CATV is the only major 75 ohm application I can think of, 
and that's 1 Ghz and below.


Thanks and 73
Goody
K3NG

Jim Brown wrote:


Note another very important part of their statement -- that the 50 or 75 
ohm impedance of the connector matters ONLY above 1 GHz, and only then in 
demanding applications. At HF, VHF, and below, the ONLY things that 
matters are that it fits the cable, it mates with other connectors, is 
reasonably easy to install, and is mechanically reliable. 



  



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Re: [Elecraft] that Rockmite sound

2007-07-24 Thread Goody K3NG
A $25 Rockmite in an Altoids tin or an ugly homebrew 2N rig can have 
that soundit's all about your frame of mind :-)


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[Elecraft] K3 Question

2007-07-05 Thread Goody K3NG
Greetings.  I've read through the FAQ and have one question which may 
sound basic and silly, and I hesitate to ask.  With the stock roofing 
filter and the DSP functions, can I expect comparable or better CW 
performance to what I have with my Kenwood 850 with a 500 Hz crystal 
filter?  I want to get a K3 badly, but I don't want to fork out the 
extra dollars up front for a 250 Hz or 500 Hz roofing filter.  
(Certainly later I will get one of these and perhaps a 6 kHz filter for 
listening to AM.)


My guess answer to this question would be yes, but I haven't had the 
opportunity to see a K3 in action.


Thanks in advance for any feedback.

72
Goody
K3NG
K1 #505
K3 #???

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