Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes
Hahahahaha. It stimulates the blood and gets what's left of the fire in the boiler stirred up. On 05/01/2017 01:35 AM, Edward R Cole [via Elecraft] wrote: > I'll probably get flamed with this comment (oh what the heck): Joking aside, all of the State and Federal agencies are preparing for a pretty grim scenario. Historically these events span from 40˚N to 50˚N with 40-45˚ N receiving the greatest impact. At the time this was first discovered they were estimating a 10% chance in the next 50 years. More recent research has upped it to over 50% with an estimated shaking interval of 15 to 20 minutes. The infrastructure, especially the schools in rural Oregon from I-5 west will all be flat. There will be no fuel or power available for many areas for up to two years. Grim indeed. One thing most agree with is that we are not prepared. The evidence is overwhelming. The geological record is clear. On January 26, 1700 it took out the west coast and hit Japan with a huge tsunami according to Japanese records. On average one of these puppies goes off every 350 years + or -. I know it's all a lot of guess work too. Ham is the only thing I think will be available for the short and long term. Obviously the first few days/weeks will be total chaos. I'm on the local ARES and volunteer fire dept Board. When I heard about this I did some homework and purchased a K3. It wasn't a hobby motive at all even though I can see that it would be great fun time allowing. I'm here to serve my community and willing to learn as time allows. I respect ham and I respect the rules. I am also a realist and like as many options as I can get my hands on. It's just the way I think. No doubt there will be many of you assisting if this thing goes down in the next short time. For that I am grateful. My hope is that I will get a handle on this K3 line up to at least get a signal out when it is most needed. The club an ARES does regular sets and I participate whenever I can. I'll be the first to admit I am behind the 8 ball on this one. Have a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tys792xlNeI 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630196.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes
Thanks Joe, I do have two of the ARRL Antenna Books but wasn't familiar the other references. I'll be sure to look them up. I'm currently using a multiband dipole that has really impressed me given it's poor location and setup. It's obvious I need an "antenna tool kit". That would be very helpful for what I need. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 05/01/2017 05:54 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: > On 5/1/2017 12:17 AM, Stanley Petrowski wrote: > > Thanks again Don. I'm working on that. I agree that this skill set is > > fast fading. One of the interesting aspects of the ham circles I am > > affiliated with is that we are all well over 65 and most beyond that. > > I have secured many hundreds of feet of good quality coax, spools of > > wire to build traps and more wire to use for building antennas. > > Building traps is probably a waste of time. As I learned from old > timers 40 years ago, your best emergency antennas will be: > > 1) 40 and 75 meter 1/4 wave sections of wire that can be clamped > under the bottom of the mast/whip on your mobile antenna and > pulled over nearby tree or up a flagpole when parked. > > 2) two or three parallel dipoles for 75 and 40 meters (or 80, 75 > and 40 meters if you have digital/CW nets) that can be hauled > up a flag pole, into a tree or up a 30 to 40 foot push up mast > (with the necessary base and temporary guying) for longer term > "portable" operations. > > With the advent of 60 meter allocations (particularly if the FCC > gets off its ass and implements the most recent WARC decisions) > you may want to consider adding 60 meters to your arsenal. > > It may be worthwhile having a pair of end-fed half wave (EFHW) > antennas in your tool kit - one for 80/40 and one for 60/30. Put > insulators in the middle and at 30 feed from the feed end so they > can be pulled up a flag pole, tree, or temporary mast as either > an inverted V or inverted L. With transceivers like the K3 that > have wide range tuners, the EFHW may be easier to store and deploy > than the parallel dipole/inverted V and will provide the same > NVIS performance as the traditional "maypole" installations. > > In any case, I recommend the ARRL Antenna Book, ARRL's book on > portable antennas, the ARRL series "ARRL's Wire Antenna Classics" > (particularly N0SS's article "An Easy-up and easy to store Field > Day Dipole"), and the ARRL series "ARRL Antenna Compendium" > (Volumes 1-8). If you *study* the Antenna Book, you will get a > good understanding of the theory wile the Antenna Wire Classics > and Antenna Compendium series will provide a wealth of practical > ideas. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630179.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630186.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes
I took it down to 5 watts pronto before I started reconfig. Roger that on the dementia also. One step at a time. One day at a time. My sincere gratitude. I'll keep you posted. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 09:39 PM, Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft] wrote: > Turn the power down while experimenting and you should not "blow the > finals". > 73, > Don W3FPR - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630173.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes
Well taken Don. The capacity to be mobile, versatile and functional is my primary goal. It all takes time and I am old. I'm doing my best for my small community. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 08:22 PM, Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft] wrote: > One important thing I forget to mention is that you should learn how to > construct your own effective antennas. > To my mind, that skill may be critical in an emergency. and with the > proliferation (and acceptance) of ready made manufactured antennas, I am > afraid that skill is decreasing in ham radio circles. Yes, it does take > a bit of studying and experimenting, but is not really that difficult. > If you can do simple multiplication and division, you can calculate the > length of a halfwave antenna that can be used for effective > communications - all it takes is some wire and a feedline. > > 73, > Don W3FPR - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630166.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB
I am planning guy wires even on the standalone to help but as you note when it starts all bets are off. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 06:23 PM, Phil Kane-2 [via Elecraft] wrote: > On 4/30/2017 1:22 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > > I have always wondered how towers hold up during earthquakes. Being > able > > to work with ad-hoc antennas seems a good attribute for any > emergency plan. > > Radio Station KGO(AM) in San Francisco has its transmitting plant > (directional array with three self-supporting towers) not too far off > the San Andreas Fault that shook in the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake. > The top section of one of the towers folded down upon itself - and those > were big strong towers. The entire array was rebuilt. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630160.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB
Duly bookmarked. Thanks. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 12:01 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] wrote: > > http://k9yc.com/AntennaPlanning.pdf addresses this with a table and > graphs. See Fig 36 and Table 1 on page 11. > > 73, Jim K9YC - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630159.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Island & CB in 9.0 quakes
The models DOGAMI (Oregon Dept. of Geology and Mining) has released shows a 71 foot tsunami if the quake is 9+. I'm glad I am out of the coast range and in the Cascades. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 05:35 PM, kev...@coho.net [via Elecraft] wrote: > More likely is Elecraft Island will be all that remains of California. > Oregon will have a brand new coast too; maybe all the way into Salem :) > > Kevin. KD5ONS - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630157.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB in 9.0 quakes
We're at 160% or normal precipitation this year in the Cascades. The ground everywhere is Jello. That said, the models are saying our area will be to the equivalent to 7.0+ if the subduction zones goes off as predicted. Winter before last there were several million board feet of large Douglas Fur that blocked all of the roads for days as a result of a snow storm. You nailed it regarding the bridges. We have steep canyons, granitic and serpentine geological conditions and too many bridges. I'd like to say that radio is a hobby but the fact is that my only motive was that lives are at stake. I'm learning. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 03:28 PM, kev...@coho.net [via Elecraft] wrote: > When we get that 9.0 quake many of my local roads will go away. The > gravel logging roads carved into the side of the mountain will > collapse. They regularly do so during our torrential rain season. A > quake will just make it worse. Plus the number of trees I'll have to > cut between here and my mailbox will take at least a 5 gallon container > of fuel. Luckily the CB radios will still work so I can get the local > loggers to carve me out. > > However, at that point I'll have to worry about all the bridges between > here and there. Only the smallest ones will have a chance of remaining > passable. I have charged deep cycle marine batteries and reels of spare > antenna wire. As long as I have a roof over my head I'll be able to > communicate. Even then I do have a tent to live in until civilization > rights itself again. The local grouse, rabbit, and deer population may > take a hit though :) > > GL in the big one, > > Kevin. KD5ONS - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630156.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB
I agree Kevin. The one advantage here in rural Oregon is that there's a modicum of adaptability in peoples lives that helps them get buy. We are out of power, phone and satellite internet frequently in the winter. It sounds very much like your situation in "Coho" country. BTW, I've spent the better part of the last 12 years doing coho habitat restoration projects here in the boonies. Our run this year was down to three adults coming back in our watershed. Thanks for the feedback. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 05:41 PM, kev...@coho.net [via Elecraft] wrote: > One item which rarely makes it onto the ECOM check lists is fitness. > How many folks are prepared to actually do all the work necessary after > a major disaster. The majority of folks would not be able to walk to > the nearest shelter let alone help others. We, as a nation, are > woefully under-prepared for disasters. The ECOM folks talk about it, > plan for it, but don't train the public to be in better shape to handle > any given disaster. While I have taught many ECOM classes I am never > allowed to say more than a few words about fitness. I do it for rehab > but it has helped me stay safe in the various unsafe times I have had up > here in the wilderness. > > 73 & GL, > > Kevin. KD5ONS - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630154.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks Clay. I'm willing to eat humble pie any time it is appropriate. No problem there. Being called lazy when I know otherwise is not one of those times. I do better getting help from people that are polite and trying to understand where I am coming from. That isn't what's happening here. How did you expect me to respond. I am willing to learn. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 02:56 PM, Clay Autery [via Elecraft] wrote: > Clay Autery, KY5G - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630151.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight & CB
Yep, most excellent attribute. Our club does annual field trips just for that purpose. To be honest I was shocked what a long wire could do with the right equipment. I'll the first to admit I'm just getting my legs. That said, radio is a fantastic tool for my needs. I've never done it as a hobby and always have had it as a community help tool or basic communication tool. I lived off the grid up in Montana for a decade and found radio a great way to keep sane. I had an old Kenwood TS-140s back then and spent a lot of time listening. I didn't have a license so never TX but I would have if I had to. I'm not an anarchist and totally respect the rules but life and limb take precedent over the rules in my world. I'm not even tempted to do anything but get stick to the plan. Maybe its my old Vietnam days but every option should be available. My mind set is such that I'm putting guy wires up on my free standing antenna. It can't hurt can it? Thanks for making contact Bill. 73 Stan KG7FYI -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> On 04/30/2017 01:23 PM, Bill Frantz [via Elecraft] wrote: > I have always wondered how towers hold up during earthquakes. > Being able to work with ad-hoc antennas seems a good attribute > for any emergency plan. - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630150.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Well Jim, I appreciate your concern but to accuse me of laziness is offensive and uncalled for. I think you are presumptuous to know my circumstance and make a judgment of my character based on a few simple questions posted on a email forum. Your analysis is full of snobbery and ill intent. It's really a turn off from someone who is trying to learn the radio, its operation and functions. I think your attitude and sense of internet etiquette needs adjustment if you don't mind me saying. I am choosing to learn this system at my own pace. I've built and configured the system just fine with this one defugalty. So back off. Stan KG7FYI On 04/30/2017 12:40 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] wrote: > On Sun,4/30/2017 8:04 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > > I have the second edition of Fred Cady's book. Point me in the > right direction and I'll plow through it. > > While Fred's books provides a lot of good info in easy to read form, > there's very little in that that can't be learned simply by studying the > Elecraft User Manuals for your product. Note my use of the word > "studying." This is necessary whether you're using Elecraft manuals > (free) or Fred's (not free). > > Elecraft K3, K3S, KX2, and KX3 all offer a high degree of customization > and many controls to fit the needs of individual users. The Elecraft > manuals are pretty good at providing detail of how all those settings > and controls work. When set up properly to match individual operating > style and needs, it's rare to need to use a menu except to choose very > different styles and needs. > > Taken together, the posts in this thread suggest a mental laziness about > STUDYING the reference materials -- FCC Rules, equipment manuals, ARRL > Handbook, ARRL Operating Manual, even the ARRL study guides for the > license exams (and I mean the fundamental concepts, not just Q). Those > of us who know what's going on and how things work have done that. It > ain't that we're that much smarter, it's that we've paid our dues by > studying. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630131.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630134.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
I believe the below was the problem. >> If you were on 24 mhz you were on the 12 meter band. NO you cant dial >> down to 28.4 which is not in the 12 meter band >> >> tapping up is not taking you to Ten Meters >> for some reason you are in 12 meters still >> it has happened to me too On 04/30/2017 10:58 AM, Don Wilhelm [via Elecraft] wrote: > Stan, > > Can you tune the VFO on other bands? If not, you likely have the VFO > locked - look for the little 'padlock' icon in the upper right corner of > the display. Hold the LOCK button to the right of VFO A knob to toggle > LOCK on and off. > > What happens when you do a Direct Frequency Enter? You must place a > decimal after the MHz digits and when you have entered 28.4 tap the > ENTER button (lower right of the number keypad). > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 4/30/2017 11:04 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > > >> This is very confusing, Stan. Are you saying that if you tap BAND > (up), > >> you move from 24 to 28.676 MHz and then can't dial VFO A down to 28.4? > > Yes, that is exactly what is happening. I can assure you it is not > > something I programmed into the system. I checked the config menu (BND > > MAP) and all bands are in. Somehow I may have unintentionally > programmed > > an issue into the system. I haven't programmed anything into the system > > so resetting the defaults should be no loss if all goes well. The > > curiosity is how I got into this mix in the first place. Included in > > this email is an image of the front panel that might give a clue. > > > > I have the second edition of Fred Cady's book. Point me in the right > > direction and I'll plow through it. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630127.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630128.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight
P.S. I have my General Class license with my eye on Extra some time in the not too distant future. s On 04/30/2017 03:04 AM, Bill W4ZV [via Elecraft] wrote: > Hi Stan, > > Responding to excerpts below: > > KG7FYI wrote > Our very local scenario is filled with mountains and valleys. We > are the > land of “One Hundred Valleys”. Actually there are thousands of > them! 2M > is very spotty. > > Our ARES group requires go bags for all vehicles. Few people but a > lot > of livestock and gardens here. > > My only concern was availability of frequency bandwidth. We have a > least > two Extra Class licenses in the community and one MARS certified. > Unfortunately they are many 15+ miles away deep in a valley. > > Sounds like a beautiful area! You probably know this but NVIS would > be a perfect solution for you. 40 meters would be the easiest NVIS > antenna (very low dipole) to implement. "Military NVIS communications > mostly take place on 2-4 MHz at night and on 5-7 MHz during daylight." > > Here's a link explaining: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_vertical_incidence_skywave > > However this would require General Class licenses or higher for voice > modes. > > 73 and Good Luck! > > Bill W4ZV > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630119.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630125.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] NVIS HF vs VHF line-of-sight
Thanks Bill. Yes it is a very nice area. This is us http://www.singingfalls.com Right now the antenna plan is thus. : Two towers spanning 380 feet. The foundations are poured and towers staged. Working on refurbishing a used KT34XA to current '36XA specs. I will have a 2M yagi pointed and our ARES relay tower and a 2M vertical for general purposes to access other available bands. I will have a 11M yagi up to communicate with unlicensed locals. Most folks have a cb base out here. I've got a multiband dipole and a long wire to span the two towers. ( I named the towers Sauron and Saruman :) ) 73 Stan KG7FYI On 04/30/2017 03:04 AM, Bill W4ZV [via Elecraft] wrote: > Hi Stan, > > Responding to excerpts below: > > KG7FYI wrote > Our very local scenario is filled with mountains and valleys. We > are the > land of “One Hundred Valleys”. Actually there are thousands of > them! 2M > is very spotty. > > Our ARES group requires go bags for all vehicles. Few people but a > lot > of livestock and gardens here. > > My only concern was availability of frequency bandwidth. We have a > least > two Extra Class licenses in the community and one MARS certified. > Unfortunately they are many 15+ miles away deep in a valley. > > Sounds like a beautiful area! You probably know this but NVIS would > be a perfect solution for you. 40 meters would be the easiest NVIS > antenna (very low dipole) to implement. "Military NVIS communications > mostly take place on 2-4 MHz at night and on 5-7 MHz during daylight." > > Here's a link explaining: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_vertical_incidence_skywave > > However this would require General Class licenses or higher for voice > modes. > > 73 and Good Luck! > > Bill W4ZV > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630119.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630124.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
> This is very confusing, Stan. Are you saying that if you tap BAND (up), > you move from 24 to 28.676 MHz and then can't dial VFO A down to 28.4? Yes, that is exactly what is happening. I can assure you it is not something I programmed into the system. I checked the config menu (BND MAP) and all bands are in. Somehow I may have unintentionally programmed an issue into the system. I haven't programmed anything into the system so resetting the defaults should be no loss if all goes well. The curiosity is how I got into this mix in the first place. Included in this email is an image of the front panel that might give a clue. I have the second edition of Fred Cady's book. Point me in the right direction and I'll plow through it. All: I really appreciate the help. 73 Stan KG7FYI On 04/29/2017 05:00 PM, Matt Zilmer-3 [via Elecraft] wrote: > I think Stan said he was on 10m, not a transverter band. If he has a > transverter programmed in (maybe without his knowledge?) 10m would > still be 10m and the xvtr band would be its own band. > > I'm stumped. Waiting for Stan to reply to last email > > Someone thought it might be LOCKed, but that applies across all bands' > VFO settings. > > 73, > > matt W6NIA > > > On 4/29/2017 4:17 PM, Nr4c wrote: > > > Wondering if he has a XVERTER inabled. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > > >> On Apr 29, 2017, at 4:26 PM, Matt Zilmer <[hidden email] > > wrote: > >> > >> This is very confusing, Stan. Are you saying that if you tap BAND > (up), you move from 24 to 28.676 MHz and then can't dial VFO A down to > 28.4? > >> > >> Explanation of why this is confusing / strange / whatever: VFO A > is just an optical encoder with A/B outputs. A and B act in > quadrature (only one of them changes per "click") and the transitions > are counted by a microcontroller (MCU). The only limit on what > frequency range you can dial to is the firmware inthe MCU. The K3 > allows receive from VLF (136 KHz) through 30 MHz, used without a > transverter. > >> > >> Why don't you try direct frequency entry before any next steps. > See if you can enter 28.400 MHz. At least that will put you on freq. > Then you can memorize it using the V > M switch. > >> > >> I wouldn't EE INIT the radio until all other options are exhausted. > If you decide to do that anyway, be sure and save your K3's > configuration first. You'll need to restore it after the "set > defaults" is completed. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> matt W6NIA > >> > >> > >>> On 4/29/2017 11:03 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > >>> Thanks Matt. Nope all bands are set to In. I am unable to dial > 28.400. > >>> The band jumps from 24.842 to 28.676. Perhaps I should try dropping > >>> everything down to default settings and see what happens? > >>> > >>> 73 > >>> Stan KG7FYI > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 04/27/2017 10:44 AM, Matt Zilmer-3 [via Elecraft] wrote: > >>>> BND MAP may be set to OFF for 10m on his K3. See p54 of the Owner's > >>>> Manual. > >>>> > >>>> 73, > >>>> > >>>> matt W6NIA > >>>> > > -- > "A delay is better than a disaster." > -- unknonwn > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > [Shiraz] > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630115.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > image_1.jpg (542K)
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks Matt. Nope all bands are set to In. I am unable to dial 28.400. The band jumps from 24.842 to 28.676. Perhaps I should try dropping everything down to default settings and see what happens? 73 Stan KG7FYI On 04/27/2017 10:44 AM, Matt Zilmer-3 [via Elecraft] wrote: > BND MAP may be set to OFF for 10m on his K3. See p54 of the Owner's > Manual. > > 73, > > matt W6NIA > > > On 4/27/2017 9:49 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > > > 28.400 is within the 10 meter band and your K3 should work just > fine there (Mine does) > > That being said 28.4 may not be your best choice as it tends to be a > calling frequency of sorts and even though they may not hear you you > may hear them > > > >From: KG7FYI <[hidden email] > > > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500 > > > > Thanks for all the input. > > I hope you aren't getting the impression that I am preparing to be a > loose > > cannon. We regularly carry on sets in anticipation of the type of > > emergencies the State is preparing for. Nonetheless my desire is to > have as > > many options as possible available for our small community. We have > been > > submitting grant proposals to upgrade our 2M equipment to be better > > integrated into the ARES net system here. On the other hand our ARES > usually > > also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ which is not open on my K3. Not > reasonable > > at all, hence my hope to scale things up. Our ARES group has done > ARES/RACES > > certification to qualify for participation. I'll touch in with our > club to > > see where we are regarding our RACES commitment. In the mean time > also I'll > > make contact on my own. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > -- > "A delay is better than a disaster." > -- unknonwn > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > [Shiraz] > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630038.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630100.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Hi Marvin, Thanks for the email. Here's where we stand at the moment. I am certified ICS 100, ICS 100b, ICS 200, IS-00700a (NIMS), ICS 800B and others. Organizationally we are Red Cross, UVARC (Umpqua Valley Radio Club), Douglas County ARES on the local and State level. Our local are on top of our game. Our EOC is located in the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. (Lot's of hoops there- finger prints etc.) When we do sets it is with State emergency services, local hospitals, the VA medical center, SARS (Search and Rescue) etc. Geographically we are in the Cascadia Subduction Zone high impact area. Considerations are tsunami, quake, floods. The State of Oregon has provided tsunami and quake damage modeling data that is dialed into various possible Richter Scale scenarios. The big one is overdue by an estimated 50 years. Our very local scenario is filled with mountains and valleys. We are the land of “One Hundred Valleys”. Actually there are thousands of them! 2M is very spotty. The USFS ( I have 80 acres in the middle of Umpqua National Forest ) radio infrastructure is miserable. Cut backs of appropriated $. We coordinate with County SARS. I am personally CERT certified. At one stage of my long life I was an EMT for some time. Solar, generator and grid. Our ARES group requires go bags for all vehicles. Few people but a lot of livestock and gardens here. My only concern was availability of frequency bandwidth. We have a least two Extra Class licenses in the community and one MARS certified. Unfortunately they are many 15+ miles away deep in a valley. We're trying. 73 Stan KG7FYI On 04/27/2017 08:08 AM, Marvin Wheeler [via Elecraft] wrote: > Eric: > > Speaking as a former professional Emergency Management Coordinator you > are > asking to be able to do something that will not endear you to neither the > County, State, or Federal Agencies. > > Having persons uninformed with net operations is totally disruptive to > the > point, at times, that all traffic stops. Not only will you incur the > wrath > of these agencies you well might incur the wrath of the FCC. Just because > there is an emergency does not give you Carte Blanc to use radio > equipment > as ones private forum. > > There is, however, systems in place that welcome participation like > yours. > Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service (RACES) is an organization provided > for in Part 97 of the Federal Communications Commission rules and > regulations governing amateur radio. RACES stations are licensed to do > exactly what it seems you wish to prepare to do. > > I would recommend you contact the Oregon Department of Emergency > Management > and describe exactly what you wish to do. You probably will be surprised > how receptive they will be. > > Our office location: > 3225 State St., Room 115 > Salem, Oregon 97301 > Map/Directions > > Hours of Operation: > 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday - Friday > The Oregon Office of Emergency Management observes all state holidays > including Martin Luther King Jr. Day, President's Day, Memorial Day, > Independence Day, Labor Day, Veteran's Day, Christmas Day and New Year's > Day. > > Loose cannons generally don't hit their aiming point but instead wreak > collateral damage. > > Marv - KG7V > K3S, KPA 500, KAT 500 > > -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email] > ] On Behalf Of KG7FYI > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:51 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500 > > Thank you all for the responses. Our situation here is somewhat different > regarding emergency preparedness. We are a very rural environment in SW > Oregon. No cell service, frequent land line outages, very mountainous > terrain and few options for communication in the event of an extreme > emergency. The State of Oregon has been actively engaged with local ARES > groups to prepare for an expected 9.1 subduction zone quake off of the > Pacific Coast. All models point toward a complete disruption of all > services > for months and much of the destruction to disrupt the norm for years. Our > community is isolated with the probability of all infrastructure > collapsing > and our demographic being physically unable to move in or out of the area > except by foot. There are approximately 300 people within the thus > affected > zone. I am interested in opening up as much bandwidth as possible to > provide > maximum versatility for communication. This would include the MARS > bands. We > have several folks here with General and Extra class licenses. I don't > think > our radios should be encumbered with the limitation of band width. I > suppose > I could acquire the patch by some other means but I would just as soon > have > it fr
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Nothing like beating a dead horse to hamburger to make friends :) I've made some excellent private contacts through this so a win in the end. Thanks for intervening. Like all communities there's the rough and the polished. Thanks for letting it go long enough for me to learn a few things. 73 Stan Never Does Nature Say One Thing and Wisdom Another o o o -.- --. --... ..-. -.-- .. ><º> Stanley Petrowski KG7FYI President/Director SURCP.org Committee for Amateur Radio Emergency Services (CARES/SURCP.org) stan...@surcp.org On 04/27/2017 06:14 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [via Elecraft] wrote: > Looks like we've beaten this OT thread to death. Let's let it rest for > now. > Thread closed. > > 73, > Eric > Moderator > /elecraft.com/ > > On 4/27/2017 4:02 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > > Yes, anyone is allowed to use any mode or frequency in an emergency, > by FCC rules. > > > > But… > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630059.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630061.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks K2ULR. I have fond memories of calling home from Okinawa in '64 via MARS. It was a fantastic service to the troops. Now I hear there is very little of that going on. Satellite internet seems to be the rage. We do have several MARS folks in our club and one in the immediate area of concern. 73 On 04/27/2017 02:37 PM, Raymond Sills [via Elecraft] wrote: > Good points. And, besides that.. MARS communication deals with a > military connection.. i.e. sending messages to or from deployed > service people, either as written text (morse, digital, etc) or voice, > often via phone patches. > > > 73 de Ray > K2ULR > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email] > > > To: elecraft <[hidden email] > > > Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 11:36 am > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500 > > On 4/27/2017 9:51 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > > I am interested in opening up as much bandwidth as possible to > > provide maximum versatility for communication. This would include the > > MARS bands. We have several folks here with General and Extra class > > licenses. I don't think our radios should be encumbered with the > > limitation of band width. > > If you have a MARS authorization, Elecraft will provide the patch. > However, you do not need it for ARES and/or RACES operations which > are strictly amateur based. In essence, operate within your amateur > authorizations - don't decide you "need it" just because you want it. > > Of course, you will learn that the rules mean something once you have > been licensed more than a couple of years - the current examinations > obviously don't stress that the rules trump any entitlement. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630049.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630054.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks Joe. I am learning but the entitlement attitude is a new one for me. I'll have to figure that one out. On 04/27/2017 11:18 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: > > On 4/27/2017 12:18 PM, KG7FYI wrote: > > On the other hand our ARES usually also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ > > which is not open on my K3. > > You obviously do not know how to operate your K3 (probably a failure > to red the manual) since 28.400 MHz is squarely within the amateur > 10 meter band and works just fine with a stock K3, K3S - even the K2, > KX2 and KX3. > > Again, I certainly hope you learn more about amateur radio and get > rid of the entitlement attitude. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 4/27/2017 12:18 PM, KG7FYI wrote: > > > Thanks for all the input. > > I hope you aren't getting the impression that I am preparing to be a > loose > > cannon. We regularly carry on sets in anticipation of the type of > > emergencies the State is preparing for. Nonetheless my desire is to > have as > > many options as possible available for our small community. We have > been > > submitting grant proposals to upgrade our 2M equipment to be better > > integrated into the ARES net system here. On the other hand our ARES > usually > > also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ which is not open on my K3. Not > reasonable > > at all, hence my hope to scale things up. Our ARES group has done > ARES/RACES > > certification to qualify for participation. I'll touch in with our > club to > > see where we are regarding our RACES commitment. In the mean time > also I'll > > make contact on my own. Thanks. > > > > > > > > - > > Stan KG7FYI > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630032.html > > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630041.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630053.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks W6NIA. I will check asap. On 04/27/2017 10:44 AM, Matt Zilmer-3 [via Elecraft] wrote: > BND MAP may be set to OFF for 10m on his K3. See p54 of the Owner's > Manual. > > 73, > > matt W6NIA > > > On 4/27/2017 9:49 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: > > > 28.400 is within the 10 meter band and your K3 should work just > fine there (Mine does) > > That being said 28.4 may not be your best choice as it tends to be a > calling frequency of sorts and even though they may not hear you you > may hear them > > > >From: KG7FYI <[hidden email] > > > > To: [hidden email] > > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 12:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500 > > > > Thanks for all the input. > > I hope you aren't getting the impression that I am preparing to be a > loose > > cannon. We regularly carry on sets in anticipation of the type of > > emergencies the State is preparing for. Nonetheless my desire is to > have as > > many options as possible available for our small community. We have > been > > submitting grant proposals to upgrade our 2M equipment to be better > > integrated into the ARES net system here. On the other hand our ARES > usually > > also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ which is not open on my K3. Not > reasonable > > at all, hence my hope to scale things up. Our ARES group has done > ARES/RACES > > certification to qualify for participation. I'll touch in with our > club to > > see where we are regarding our RACES commitment. In the mean time > also I'll > > make contact on my own. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > -- > "A delay is better than a disaster." > -- unknonwn > > Matt Zilmer, W6NIA > [Shiraz] > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630038.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630052.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks for that input. I must have some setting wrong then. I am not even able to navigate to 28.400 on my rig. On 04/27/2017 09:29 AM, Bob Nielsen-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: > Your K3 should be able to operate between 28.0 and 29.7 MHz on the 10 > meter band, no modification required. > > Bob, N7XY > > > On 4/27/17 9:18 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > > > Thanks for all the input. > > I hope you aren't getting the impression that I am preparing to be a > loose > > cannon. We regularly carry on sets in anticipation of the type of > > emergencies the State is preparing for. Nonetheless my desire is to > have as > > many options as possible available for our small community. We have > been > > submitting grant proposals to upgrade our 2M equipment to be better > > integrated into the ARES net system here. On the other hand our ARES > usually > > also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ which is not open on my K3. Not > reasonable > > at all, hence my hope to scale things up. Our ARES group has done > ARES/RACES > > certification to qualify for participation. I'll touch in with our > club to > > see where we are regarding our RACES commitment. In the mean time > also I'll > > make contact on my own. Thanks. > > > > > > > > - > > Stan KG7FYI > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630032.html > > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630033.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630051.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
I'm all about the rules. The last thing I would want to see is the chaos that is found on some bandwidths. That said, when life and limb are perishing the rule is getting a signal out when and how you can. s On 04/27/2017 08:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV-4 [via Elecraft] wrote: > On 4/27/2017 9:51 AM, KG7FYI wrote: > > I am interested in opening up as much bandwidth as possible to > > provide maximum versatility for communication. This would include the > > MARS bands. We have several folks here with General and Extra class > > licenses. I don't think our radios should be encumbered with the > > limitation of band width. > > If you have a MARS authorization, Elecraft will provide the patch. > However, you do not need it for ARES and/or RACES operations which > are strictly amateur based. In essence, operate within your amateur > authorizations - don't decide you "need it" just because you want it. > > Of course, you will learn that the rules mean something once you have > been licensed more than a couple of years - the current examinations > obviously don't stress that the rules trump any entitlement. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the > discussion below: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630025.html > > To unsubscribe from K3 P3 and KAT500, click here > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code=7629969=c3RhbmxleUBzdXJjcC5vcmd8NzYyOTk2OXwxNzg3MzA0NjYz>. > NAML > <http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer=instant_html%21nabble%3Aemail.naml=nabble.naml.namespaces.BasicNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NabbleNamespace-nabble.view.web.template.NodeNamespace=notify_subscribers%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-instant_emails%21nabble%3Aemail.naml-send_instant_email%21nabble%3Aemail.naml> > > - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630050.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks for all the input. I hope you aren't getting the impression that I am preparing to be a loose cannon. We regularly carry on sets in anticipation of the type of emergencies the State is preparing for. Nonetheless my desire is to have as many options as possible available for our small community. We have been submitting grant proposals to upgrade our 2M equipment to be better integrated into the ARES net system here. On the other hand our ARES usually also does check ins on 28.400 MHZ which is not open on my K3. Not reasonable at all, hence my hope to scale things up. Our ARES group has done ARES/RACES certification to qualify for participation. I'll touch in with our club to see where we are regarding our RACES commitment. In the mean time also I'll make contact on my own. Thanks. - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630032.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thank you all for the responses. Our situation here is somewhat different regarding emergency preparedness. We are a very rural environment in SW Oregon. No cell service, frequent land line outages, very mountainous terrain and few options for communication in the event of an extreme emergency. The State of Oregon has been actively engaged with local ARES groups to prepare for an expected 9.1 subduction zone quake off of the Pacific Coast. All models point toward a complete disruption of all services for months and much of the destruction to disrupt the norm for years. Our community is isolated with the probability of all infrastructure collapsing and our demographic being physically unable to move in or out of the area except by foot. There are approximately 300 people within the thus affected zone. I am interested in opening up as much bandwidth as possible to provide maximum versatility for communication. This would include the MARS bands. We have several folks here with General and Extra class licenses. I don't think our radios should be encumbered with the limitation of band width. I suppose I could acquire the patch by some other means but I would just as soon have it from Elecraft. I have not purchased yet but I am particularly interested in the possibility of an amplifier for my radios. I wondered if the KAT500 hundred could handle more than 100 watts? In discussions with club members it is apparent that some are for and others against 1000 watt amps etc. I'm curious if the elecraft tuner has wattage limits. - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7630020.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Also regarding the above, what if any changes need to be made to the K3 for unlocked band usage? Stan KG7FYI - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969p7629972.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3 P3 and KAT500
Thanks for your attention. I've been running my K3 with pleasure. I have several questions. As a member of the local ARES I would like to unlock my K3 to access all bands. My radio kit was built two years ago. 1. Does my kit need a firmware update? I haven't been tracking that info. 2. Is the software needed to unlock the bands freely available? I have a couple of other radios for backup. What is the wattage limit on the KAT500 tuner? Thanks for any help. Stan KG7FYI - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-and-KAT500-tp7629969.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Oregon MARS
I just received notice that I have been accepted into the Oregon MARS program. Who do I contact at Elecraft regarding my K3? Thanks in advance. KG7FYI Stan - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Oregon-MARS-tp7585405.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Oregon MARS
Thanks guys. Sent contact. KG7FYI s - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Oregon-MARS-tp7585405p7585407.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3IOBUFFKT
Purchased my K3 last October. It came with Buffer Gain Mod resister. I'm a little confused. Reading the Mod sheet it says that, This change has been incorporated into all new K3's beginning in September 2009. Am I reading it wrong? Shouldn't that mod already be done? - Stan KG7FYI -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3IOBUFFKT-tp7584269.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
