Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
I grew up in So Central Los Angeles, 1/2 block from one of the original 2-circuit 230 KV transmission lines from Hoover Dam. Several times a year, LA DWP came around with a tank truck and coupled it to a pipe running up the tower. A guy climbed a ladder inside the tower, hooked up a nozzle at each of the three phases, and blew a water/air mixture at the insulators. then they moved on to the next tower. My noise level always declined about an S-unit after the bath. Often though, the problems aren't the insulators themselves but loose hardware on the pole that create micro-arcing. Rain sometimes makes that noise worse, and wind really can. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 9/11/2020 10:00 AM, Phil Kane wrote: On 9/10/2020 4:19 PM, David Gilbert wrote: Malaysia gets a lot of rain, things are wet much of the time, and back then (at least 30 years ago) many of the electrical insulators on the overhead power lines were dirty with pollution. I could see constant arcing across dozens of insulators. Yet one of the "cures" of QRM from electrical lines is to wash the insulators. Many large utilities have a specialized vehicle for that. We have buried utilities here so there's no insulators to wash 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
On 9/10/2020 4:19 PM, David Gilbert wrote: > Malaysia gets a lot of rain, things are wet much of the time, and back > then (at least 30 years ago) many of the electrical insulators on the > overhead power lines were dirty with pollution. I could see constant > arcing across dozens of insulators. Yet one of the "cures" of QRM from electrical lines is to wash the insulators. Many large utilities have a specialized vehicle for that. We have buried utilities here so there's no insulators to wash 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
Here in Alaska, we have frequent power outages. More often in winter due to wind storms knocking down wires. A few years ago we bought a 6500w Honda inverter generator to provide emergency power. Its large enough to supply the entire house load. One of the interesting things was noting the drop in radio noise when power is off. We see no lights in the neighborhood other than ours so any noise would be made in our house. 2m noise drop almost to S0. Normal quiet times with commercial power runs S3. Only see S2 or less on 2m when running our generator. At times local noise on 2m rises to S7 which renders the band unusable except strong local signals. I just set up my 6m eme system and measured S6/7 noise with the ARR preamp. PR6 shows S3/4. ARR gain is 25-dB vs about 15-dB for the PR6, so I added a 10-dB attenuator in-line with the ARR preamp which now matches the PR6 noise floor pretty well. ARR is closer to the antenna with 0.5 dB NF whereas the PR6 is about 0.7 dB NF. Not really noticeable with local signals but makes a little improvement with weak eme signals. When I first came to AK, I lived off the grid (about 2-3 miles from nearest power lines (town of pop 75). 80m band was S0 on my dipole at night. Really heard well back then. I now live 100 miles west of there in a buried utility area (2 to 5 acre parcels) which probably helps (though overhead lines are only 1/2 mile away. HF is typically S5 noise with my K3 (preamp off). I use the PR6 on 10m & 6m so that raises the noise floor a bit. Our pop is 4,000 spread over 76 square miles with a city of 15,000 12 miles south. Going to bush towns is no insurance for low noise. I worked in a town 400 miles west of Anchorage (pop 3500) and tried setting up a long yagi on 2m on roof above the TV station. Noise was over S9 (due to arc igniters in their furnace). 2m was totally unusable (trying for a long shot to Anchorage). They ran a monitor on the AM radio station which blared horrible noise when they shut down the transmitter at night. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
It has also to do with Intetnet being provided by all kinds of poorly shielded wiring hanging above ground. In V31 I always operated with a battery from a remote beach location due to continous 9+++ noise in/near my appartment block and other urban areas.73 HenkPA0C V31HV Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: James Bennett via Elecraft Datum: 10-09-2020 23:29 (GMT+01:00) Aan: Elecraft Reflector Reflector Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day I can well understand that experience.Back in 2000 my new XYL and I honeymooned in St. Maarten / PJ7. I took a K2 with me and a length of wire and coax. I managed 40 - 50 CW QSO’s in between other activities. After we got back home I wrote an article that ARRL published in one of their online journals. At one time there was a link to it on the Elecraft site.Anyway, one of the things I warned prospective vacationers going to non-US sites was to be prepared for some horrendous QRN. As I mentioned in the article, many foreign countries have no laws governing RF interference. You’ll run into all sorts of crud on the power mains, not to mention some really ugly HF band obliterators in the form of cars and trucks. I suspect some places are better than others. In St. Maarten, every time any truck went down the street by our condo I had to take off the headphones for a while - it was bad, with a capital B!Jim / W6JHB> On Sep 10, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Tony Estep wrote:> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:53 PM Al Lorona wrote:> >> Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood...radio was amazing>> yesterday for six glorious hours.>> > ==> Well, here's the flip side. My old qth was noisy enough, but the real> eye-opener came when I toted my KX3 to Hyderabad, India a few years ago. I> was teaching at the Indian School of Business and living in the faculty> apartments, and I had brought the KX3 along expecting to hear a bunch of> call-signs that would sound exotic to a midwestern Yank. So I strung up a> wire around the walls of my living room, up near the ceiling, and laid a> counterpoise out along the floor. Donning my headphones I switched it on,> looking forward to an evening of entertainment as I tuned 20 CW.> Zowie! What a cacophony of squeals, buzzes, crashes, honks and toots,> burps, whistles and grinds. The S-meter jumped up to about S9+10 and stuck> there. Nowhere on the band, it seemed, was there a slot wide enough for a> signal to peep through. Finally I was able to discern a little peep> half-buried beneath the layers of trash, a lonely VU2 calling CQ. I> answered him, but of course to no avail. On a later night I heard a few> words from a QSO between a local ham and a VR2 in Hong Kong, and that was> the sum total of my ham experience while there. Where were the noises> coming from? I dunno -- from everywhere, it sounded like.> > 73,> Tony KT0NY> __> Elecraft mailing list> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> Message delivered to w6...@me.com __Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:elecr...@mailman.qth.netThis list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to h...@kpnplanet.nl __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
We are getting ready to move... One of the processes I intend on performing on any new site is described at: https://www.nk7z.net/sdr-rfi-survey-p1/ using an SDR as a site survey tool... I will have a quiet location... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 9/10/20 4:19 PM, David Gilbert wrote: I used to travel to Malaysia quite often on business, and one of the guys who worked for me there as an ex-pat in Kuala Lumpur had gotten a 9M2 license. So I went over to his apartment one evening with the intention of working some 40m CW as a guest op, but the background noise was a horrendous scratchy buzz that ran at least S9+30. When I went outside to look around I could see why. Malaysia gets a lot of rain, things are wet much of the time, and back then (at least 30 years ago) many of the electrical insulators on the overhead power lines were dirty with pollution. I could see constant arcing across dozens of insulators. I'm retired now and live on a reasonably quiet semi-rural hillside, and !sometimes! on a quiet evening my QRN level on 160m is down below S2 even on my Inverted-L. Counting my blessings ... 73 Dave AB7E On 9/10/2020 2:17 PM, Tony Estep wrote: == Well, here's the flip side. My old qth was noisy enough, but the real eye-opener came when I toted my KX3 to Hyderabad, India a few years ago. I was teaching at the Indian School of Business and living in the faculty apartments, and I had brought the KX3 along expecting to hear a bunch of call-signs that would sound exotic to a midwestern Yank. So I strung up a wire around the walls of my living room, up near the ceiling, and laid a counterpoise out along the floor. Donning my headphones I switched it on, looking forward to an evening of entertainment as I tuned 20 CW. Zowie! What a cacophony of squeals, buzzes, crashes, honks and toots, burps, whistles and grinds. The S-meter jumped up to about S9+10 and stuck there. Nowhere on the band, it seemed, was there a slot wide enough for a signal to peep through. Finally I was able to discern a little peep half-buried beneath the layers of trash, a lonely VU2 calling CQ. I answered him, but of course to no avail. On a later night I heard a few words from a QSO between a local ham and a VR2 in Hong Kong, and that was the sum total of my ham experience while there. Where were the noises coming from? I dunno -- from everywhere, it sounded like. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
I used to travel to Malaysia quite often on business, and one of the guys who worked for me there as an ex-pat in Kuala Lumpur had gotten a 9M2 license. So I went over to his apartment one evening with the intention of working some 40m CW as a guest op, but the background noise was a horrendous scratchy buzz that ran at least S9+30. When I went outside to look around I could see why. Malaysia gets a lot of rain, things are wet much of the time, and back then (at least 30 years ago) many of the electrical insulators on the overhead power lines were dirty with pollution. I could see constant arcing across dozens of insulators. I'm retired now and live on a reasonably quiet semi-rural hillside, and !sometimes! on a quiet evening my QRN level on 160m is down below S2 even on my Inverted-L. Counting my blessings ... 73 Dave AB7E On 9/10/2020 2:17 PM, Tony Estep wrote: == Well, here's the flip side. My old qth was noisy enough, but the real eye-opener came when I toted my KX3 to Hyderabad, India a few years ago. I was teaching at the Indian School of Business and living in the faculty apartments, and I had brought the KX3 along expecting to hear a bunch of call-signs that would sound exotic to a midwestern Yank. So I strung up a wire around the walls of my living room, up near the ceiling, and laid a counterpoise out along the floor. Donning my headphones I switched it on, looking forward to an evening of entertainment as I tuned 20 CW. Zowie! What a cacophony of squeals, buzzes, crashes, honks and toots, burps, whistles and grinds. The S-meter jumped up to about S9+10 and stuck there. Nowhere on the band, it seemed, was there a slot wide enough for a signal to peep through. Finally I was able to discern a little peep half-buried beneath the layers of trash, a lonely VU2 calling CQ. I answered him, but of course to no avail. On a later night I heard a few words from a QSO between a local ham and a VR2 in Hong Kong, and that was the sum total of my ham experience while there. Where were the noises coming from? I dunno -- from everywhere, it sounded like. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
I can well understand that experience. Back in 2000 my new XYL and I honeymooned in St. Maarten / PJ7. I took a K2 with me and a length of wire and coax. I managed 40 - 50 CW QSO’s in between other activities. After we got back home I wrote an article that ARRL published in one of their online journals. At one time there was a link to it on the Elecraft site. Anyway, one of the things I warned prospective vacationers going to non-US sites was to be prepared for some horrendous QRN. As I mentioned in the article, many foreign countries have no laws governing RF interference. You’ll run into all sorts of crud on the power mains, not to mention some really ugly HF band obliterators in the form of cars and trucks. I suspect some places are better than others. In St. Maarten, every time any truck went down the street by our condo I had to take off the headphones for a while - it was bad, with a capital B! Jim / W6JHB > On Sep 10, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Tony Estep wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:53 PM Al Lorona wrote: > >> Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood...radio was amazing >> yesterday for six glorious hours. >> > == > Well, here's the flip side. My old qth was noisy enough, but the real > eye-opener came when I toted my KX3 to Hyderabad, India a few years ago. I > was teaching at the Indian School of Business and living in the faculty > apartments, and I had brought the KX3 along expecting to hear a bunch of > call-signs that would sound exotic to a midwestern Yank. So I strung up a > wire around the walls of my living room, up near the ceiling, and laid a > counterpoise out along the floor. Donning my headphones I switched it on, > looking forward to an evening of entertainment as I tuned 20 CW. > Zowie! What a cacophony of squeals, buzzes, crashes, honks and toots, > burps, whistles and grinds. The S-meter jumped up to about S9+10 and stuck > there. Nowhere on the band, it seemed, was there a slot wide enough for a > signal to peep through. Finally I was able to discern a little peep > half-buried beneath the layers of trash, a lonely VU2 calling CQ. I > answered him, but of course to no avail. On a later night I heard a few > words from a QSO between a local ham and a VR2 in Hong Kong, and that was > the sum total of my ham experience while there. Where were the noises > coming from? I dunno -- from everywhere, it sounded like. > > 73, > Tony KT0NY > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 2:53 PM Al Lorona wrote: > Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood...radio was amazing > yesterday for six glorious hours. > == Well, here's the flip side. My old qth was noisy enough, but the real eye-opener came when I toted my KX3 to Hyderabad, India a few years ago. I was teaching at the Indian School of Business and living in the faculty apartments, and I had brought the KX3 along expecting to hear a bunch of call-signs that would sound exotic to a midwestern Yank. So I strung up a wire around the walls of my living room, up near the ceiling, and laid a counterpoise out along the floor. Donning my headphones I switched it on, looking forward to an evening of entertainment as I tuned 20 CW. Zowie! What a cacophony of squeals, buzzes, crashes, honks and toots, burps, whistles and grinds. The S-meter jumped up to about S9+10 and stuck there. Nowhere on the band, it seemed, was there a slot wide enough for a signal to peep through. Finally I was able to discern a little peep half-buried beneath the layers of trash, a lonely VU2 calling CQ. I answered him, but of course to no avail. On a later night I heard a few words from a QSO between a local ham and a VR2 in Hong Kong, and that was the sum total of my ham experience while there. Where were the noises coming from? I dunno -- from everywhere, it sounded like. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
I have a 22 db noise floor change here when power fails... If the pot grower has his lights on the noise floor drops almost 40 db during a power fail. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 9/10/20 1:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Hi Al, Thanks for entertaining observations. I have a proximately the same experience every time I take the KX2 or KX3 miles away from humanity. Wayne N6KR elecraft.com On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Al Lorona wrote: Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood yesterday while crews replaced a power pole. For a long time, I have wanted to check my HF noise floor when the power is out, and yesterday was my chance. For days like this is why my station is solar-powered! I expected to be surprised but I was absolutely blown away by what I heard. The 40 meter noise floor was at least *17 dB* lower than normal. I could hear layers and layers of signals that I never knew were there. Nets I never knew existed… I mean, have you heard of the Montana Sheepherders net, for pity’s sake? A midday 40 m pileup on a SOTA QRP CW station in Texas that I never would have had a prayer of hearing normally. The noise was so low that I could hear way, way down into the intermod of SSB signals—and most of them were quite yucky. I heard birdies and crud from washing machines from what must have been three blocks away. I heard the 7150 kHz 5th harmonic of a local AM station. By measurement on the P3, I confirmed that all of these signals would have been completely under my usual noise floor. On 20, it was so quiet I almost believed that the K3’s receiver had failed. WWV was coming in at a 56 dB signal-to-noise ratio. Interestingly, 80 meters was also quieter, but not by as much. I’m not complaining about nearly 10 dB less noise, but it’s too bad that power was turned on before dark, before I could really evaluate the conditions. When it gets this quiet, there are no ticks, crashes or noise transients of any kind... just a gentle rushing sound, so it ‘feels’ even quieter than it is. It was every bit as quiet as a forest Field Day a hundred miles from civilization. Yes, radio was amazing yesterday for six glorious hours. R, Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
Hi Al, Thanks for entertaining observations. I have a proximately the same experience every time I take the KX2 or KX3 miles away from humanity. Wayne N6KR elecraft.com > On Sep 10, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Al Lorona wrote: > > Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood yesterday while crews > replaced a power pole. For a long time, I have wanted to check my HF noise > floor when the power is out, and yesterday was my chance. For days like this > is why my station is solar-powered! > > I expected to be surprised but I was absolutely blown away by what I heard. > The 40 meter noise floor was at least *17 dB* lower than normal. I could hear > layers and layers of signals that I never knew were there. Nets I never knew > existed… I mean, have you heard of the Montana Sheepherders net, for pity’s > sake? A midday 40 m pileup on a SOTA QRP CW station in Texas that I never > would have had a prayer of hearing normally. The noise was so low that I > could hear way, way down into the intermod of SSB signals—and most of them > were quite yucky. I heard birdies and crud from washing machines from what > must have been three blocks away. I heard the 7150 kHz 5th harmonic of a > local AM station. By measurement on the P3, I confirmed that all of these > signals would have been completely under my usual noise floor. > > On 20, it was so quiet I almost believed that the K3’s receiver had failed. > WWV was coming in at a 56 dB signal-to-noise ratio. > > Interestingly, 80 meters was also quieter, but not by as much. I’m not > complaining about nearly 10 dB less noise, but it’s too bad that power was > turned on before dark, before I could really evaluate the conditions. > > When it gets this quiet, there are no ticks, crashes or noise transients of > any kind... just a gentle rushing sound, so it ‘feels’ even quieter than it > is. It was every bit as quiet as a forest Field Day a hundred miles from > civilization. Yes, radio was amazing yesterday for six glorious hours. > > R, > > Al W6LX > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] [OT] A Very Quiet Day
Power was shut off to my noisy urban neighborhood yesterday while crews replaced a power pole. For a long time, I have wanted to check my HF noise floor when the power is out, and yesterday was my chance. For days like this is why my station is solar-powered! I expected to be surprised but I was absolutely blown away by what I heard. The 40 meter noise floor was at least *17 dB* lower than normal. I could hear layers and layers of signals that I never knew were there. Nets I never knew existed… I mean, have you heard of the Montana Sheepherders net, for pity’s sake? A midday 40 m pileup on a SOTA QRP CW station in Texas that I never would have had a prayer of hearing normally. The noise was so low that I could hear way, way down into the intermod of SSB signals—and most of them were quite yucky. I heard birdies and crud from washing machines from what must have been three blocks away. I heard the 7150 kHz 5th harmonic of a local AM station. By measurement on the P3, I confirmed that all of these signals would have been completely under my usual noise floor. On 20, it was so quiet I almost believed that the K3’s receiver had failed. WWV was coming in at a 56 dB signal-to-noise ratio. Interestingly, 80 meters was also quieter, but not by as much. I’m not complaining about nearly 10 dB less noise, but it’s too bad that power was turned on before dark, before I could really evaluate the conditions. When it gets this quiet, there are no ticks, crashes or noise transients of any kind... just a gentle rushing sound, so it ‘feels’ even quieter than it is. It was every bit as quiet as a forest Field Day a hundred miles from civilization. Yes, radio was amazing yesterday for six glorious hours. R, Al W6LX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
