Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I'm not sure that boosting high frequencies (assuming you have simple, age related, type losses) is really a safe thing to do. Whilst hearing aids do this, they also apply dynamic range compression, to minimise the additional hearing damage caused by the aid for loud sources. Incidentally, the standard correction applied by hearing aids is approximately half the number of dB's of loss. They don't try to fully cancel the loss. -- David Woolley On 14/10/2021 00:24, Jim Brown wrote: First, one that works for K6DGW, who mostly works CW and has a lot of hearing loss. Set RXEQ with maximum cut for the 3 lowest bands (50, 100, 200) and cut at least 6 dB on the 4th (400 Hz). Set the highest bands for max boost. Depending on what note you like for CW, play with the 400 Hz band. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
You would need the most recent BLE 5.0 or above, with low latency support. Then the delay is perhaps small enough that it won't make you crazy. I have a Bluetooth transmitter in my bag to plug into devices that don't have Bluetooth support, but I haven't used it for CW. Simple enough to use, though. Plug it into the Aux or headphone jack. Pair with it, and it works. This one is similar to mine, and has the APTX low latency BT 5.0. Golvery Bluetooth 5.0 Transmitter Receiver for TV, Aptx LL/FS 40ms Wireless Audio Adapter for Home Car Stereo PC CD Radio Xbox PS4 w/ 3.5mm RCA AUX Jack, Pair 2 Headphones, No Delay, Plug n Play https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4GK874/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_ECM6DF18ZAFRT3V5RAG1?_encoding=UTF8=1 You MIGHT want to use this with a splitter, so your can send the audio to another device. 73, Gwen, NG3P On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 7:25 PM Jim Brown wrote: > On 10/13/2021 4:01 PM, jerry wrote: > > I tried this. On CW, no go. Too much delay in the bluetooth. I could > > not send. > > Yes, this a deal-killer if you're a CW op, and it can be a bit > disconcerting (although not nearly as bad) if you also monitor your SSB > signal. > > Several suggestions. > > First, one that works for K6DGW, who mostly works CW and has a lot of > hearing loss. Set RXEQ with maximum cut for the 3 lowest bands (50, 100, > 200) and cut at least 6 dB on the 4th (400 Hz). Set the highest bands > for max boost. Depending on what note you like for CW, play with the 400 > Hz band. > > If your aids use mics that are in or behind the ear, try headphones that > surround the ear to see if they will work for you. I don't wear aids, > but my XYL has Resounds and likes them. If you haven't already bought > aids, I suspect, but do not know, that a mic in the ear might work best. > Sony MDR7506 or even the Yamaha CM500 should probably work with in-ear > mics unless they cause feedback, but that could be fixed by a programmed > setting that reduces gain. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ard...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
On 10/13/2021 9:18 PM, elelist...@elitemail.org wrote: Headphones over these tends to cause feedback howl. If your aids have programmable settings that you can select from a menu, feedback could be eliminated by reducing gain when wearing phones. For me, the direct connection to my receiver via bluetooth works well. Does it work well for sending CW from a paddle? THAT'S the problem with the latency many digital systems, including Bluetooth. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Further to my recent email, here is an URL for usage instructions for the Taotronics dongle. https://www.taotronics.com/pages/how-to-use-taotronics-wireless-transmitter-adapter Prices are now around $30 Kevin (Elec eng gone bad - I got sucked into IT, the last refuge of scoundrels) On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 17:02, elelist...@elitemail.org wrote: > The bluetooth dongle is branded Taotronics on one side, and on the other, > "Wireless 2-in-1 Adapter Model TT-BA08 Input 5 v 280 mA FCCID:2AFDGBAXX Made > in China" > > 73 all > Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:58, Julia Tuttle wrote: >> Hi Kevin, >> >> Which dongle is that? Low-latency Bluetooth transmitters are hard to come by >> and the specific model might be useful to others. >> >> 73, >> >> Julie >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 00:19 wrote: >>> I have Phonak aids that are bluetooth enabled. Headphones over these tends >>> to cause feedback howl. For me, the direct connection to my receiver via >>> bluetooth works well. I have a bluetooth dongle that plugs into the xcvr >>> audio output. The dongle cost me about AUD14.00. I paired it with my aids >>> and it is good. >>> >>> vy 73 >>> Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP >>> >>> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:04, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >>> > I also tried with the device Resound sells. It just didn't work very >>> > well for CW, even though I asked the audiologist to program my aids to >>> > not try to suppress tones around 500 Hz. I didn't check the delay, >>> > because the sound was too weak to be usable. Worked great for TV, >>> > though. Ultimately I returned it. >>> > >>> > 73, >>> > Victor, 4X6GP >>> > Rehovot, Israel >>> > CWops #5 >>> > Formerly K2VCO >>> > https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >>> > >>> > On 14/10/2021 1:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: >>> >> I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They >>> >> link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth >>> >> transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free >>> >> link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am >>> >> unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. >>> >> >>> >> ...robert KE2WY >>> >> >>> >> On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and >>> >>> 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for >>> >>> my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with >>> >>> headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, >>> >>> OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the >>> >>> headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones >>> >>> that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 >>> >>> #3007, KXPA100 #2802) >>> >>> >>> >>> Keeping Watch- >>> >>> shu >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Shuman, NZ8P >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > __ >>> > Elecraft mailing list >>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> > >>> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> > Message delivered to elelist...@elitemail.org >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
The bluetooth dongle is branded Taotronics on one side, and on the other, "Wireless 2-in-1 Adapter Model TT-BA08 Input 5 v 280 mA FCCID:2AFDGBAXX Made in China" 73 all Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:58, Julia Tuttle wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > Which dongle is that? Low-latency Bluetooth transmitters are hard to come by > and the specific model might be useful to others. > > 73, > > Julie > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 00:19 wrote: >> I have Phonak aids that are bluetooth enabled. Headphones over these tends >> to cause feedback howl. For me, the direct connection to my receiver via >> bluetooth works well. I have a bluetooth dongle that plugs into the xcvr >> audio output. The dongle cost me about AUD14.00. I paired it with my aids >> and it is good. >> >> vy 73 >> Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP >> >> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:04, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: >> > I also tried with the device Resound sells. It just didn't work very >> > well for CW, even though I asked the audiologist to program my aids to >> > not try to suppress tones around 500 Hz. I didn't check the delay, >> > because the sound was too weak to be usable. Worked great for TV, >> > though. Ultimately I returned it. >> > >> > 73, >> > Victor, 4X6GP >> > Rehovot, Israel >> > CWops #5 >> > Formerly K2VCO >> > https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ >> > >> > On 14/10/2021 1:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: >> >> I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They >> >> link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth >> >> transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free >> >> link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am >> >> unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. >> >> >> >> ...robert KE2WY >> >> >> >> On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: >> >>> I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and >> >>> 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for >> >>> my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with >> >>> headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, >> >>> OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the >> >>> headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones >> >>> that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 >> >>> #3007, KXPA100 #2802) >> >>> >> >>> Keeping Watch- >> >>> shu >> >>> >> >>> Joe Shuman, NZ8P >> >>> __ >> >>> Elecraft mailing list >> >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >>> >> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >>> Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net >> >>> >> >> >> > __ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > Message delivered to elelist...@elitemail.org >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Hi Kevin, Which dongle is that? Low-latency Bluetooth transmitters are hard to come by and the specific model might be useful to others. 73, Julie On Thu, Oct 14, 2021, 00:19 wrote: > I have Phonak aids that are bluetooth enabled. Headphones over these > tends to cause feedback howl. For me, the direct connection to my receiver > via bluetooth works well. I have a bluetooth dongle that plugs into the > xcvr audio output. The dongle cost me about AUD14.00. I paired it with my > aids and it is good. > > vy 73 > Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP > > On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:04, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > > I also tried with the device Resound sells. It just didn't work very > > well for CW, even though I asked the audiologist to program my aids to > > not try to suppress tones around 500 Hz. I didn't check the delay, > > because the sound was too weak to be usable. Worked great for TV, > > though. Ultimately I returned it. > > > > 73, > > Victor, 4X6GP > > Rehovot, Israel > > CWops #5 > > Formerly K2VCO > > https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > > > On 14/10/2021 1:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: > >> I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They > >> link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth > >> transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free > >> link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am > >> unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. > >> > >> ...robert KE2WY > >> > >> On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: > >>> I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and > >>> 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for > >>> my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with > >>> headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, > >>> OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the > >>> headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones > >>> that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 > >>> #3007, KXPA100 #2802) > >>> > >>> Keeping Watch- > >>> shu > >>> > >>> Joe Shuman, NZ8P > >>> __ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net > >>> > >> > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to elelist...@elitemail.org > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ju...@juliatuttle.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I have Phonak aids that are bluetooth enabled. Headphones over these tends to cause feedback howl. For me, the direct connection to my receiver via bluetooth works well. I have a bluetooth dongle that plugs into the xcvr audio output. The dongle cost me about AUD14.00. I paired it with my aids and it is good. vy 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP On Thu, 14 Oct 2021, at 15:04, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > I also tried with the device Resound sells. It just didn't work very > well for CW, even though I asked the audiologist to program my aids to > not try to suppress tones around 500 Hz. I didn't check the delay, > because the sound was too weak to be usable. Worked great for TV, > though. Ultimately I returned it. > > 73, > Victor, 4X6GP > Rehovot, Israel > CWops #5 > Formerly K2VCO > https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > > On 14/10/2021 1:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: >> I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They >> link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth >> transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free >> link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am >> unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. >> >> ...robert KE2WY >> >> On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: >>> I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and >>> 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for >>> my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with >>> headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, >>> OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the >>> headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones >>> that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 >>> #3007, KXPA100 #2802) >>> >>> Keeping Watch- >>> shu >>> >>> Joe Shuman, NZ8P >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net >>> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to elelist...@elitemail.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I also tried with the device Resound sells. It just didn't work very well for CW, even though I asked the audiologist to program my aids to not try to suppress tones around 500 Hz. I didn't check the delay, because the sound was too weak to be usable. Worked great for TV, though. Ultimately I returned it. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel CWops #5 Formerly K2VCO https://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 14/10/2021 1:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. ...robert KE2WY On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
The Heil PRAS works extremely well for me. 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 3:54 PM Robert Strickland via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They > link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth > transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free > link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am > unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. > > ...robert KE2WY > > On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: > > I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 > dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I > use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have > the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & > speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any > experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer > or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) > > > > Keeping Watch- > > shu > > > > Joe Shuman, NZ8P > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net > > > > -- > Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY > rc...@verizon.net.usa > Syracuse, New York, USA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kwidel...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
On 10/13/2021 4:01 PM, jerry wrote: I tried this. On CW, no go. Too much delay in the bluetooth. I could not send. Yes, this a deal-killer if you're a CW op, and it can be a bit disconcerting (although not nearly as bad) if you also monitor your SSB signal. Several suggestions. First, one that works for K6DGW, who mostly works CW and has a lot of hearing loss. Set RXEQ with maximum cut for the 3 lowest bands (50, 100, 200) and cut at least 6 dB on the 4th (400 Hz). Set the highest bands for max boost. Depending on what note you like for CW, play with the 400 Hz band. If your aids use mics that are in or behind the ear, try headphones that surround the ear to see if they will work for you. I don't wear aids, but my XYL has Resounds and likes them. If you haven't already bought aids, I suspect, but do not know, that a mic in the ear might work best. Sony MDR7506 or even the Yamaha CM500 should probably work with in-ear mics unless they cause feedback, but that could be fixed by a programmed setting that reduces gain. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I tried this. On CW, no go. Too much delay in the bluetooth. I could not send. - Jerry KF6VB On 2021-10-13 15:52, Robert Strickland via Elecraft wrote: I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. ...robert KE2WY On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I have ReSound hearing aids with a BlueTooth receive capability. They link up with my iPhone automatically. Can I buy a generic BlueTooth transmitter, plug it into my K3s and have the same type of hassle free link, or are there compatibility technical issues about which I am unaware? Thanks for info and opinions. ...robert KE2WY On 26 Jan 2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rc...@verizon.net -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
After reading the replies and trying out some options, I decided to try what John (K4TOO) suggested. I was amazed at the results of using the bone conduction headphones. My HF hearing loss is a result of machinery noise from the Submarine service with associated tinnitus. Basically I have 24/7 cicadas in my head, louder than normal speech volume. In my case, the conduction pathway apparently compensates for the tinnitus to a large extent so that speech under the band noise became much more discernible. On the down side, the conduction headphones were lousy for listening to Pink Floyd. Thanks to John and all who contributed. Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. It’s not. -Dr. Seuss > On Jan 26, 2021, at 11:41, John Sublette (K4TOO) wrote: > > Hey Joe, > > Have you tried the bone conducting headphones? I'll put a link to a wired > pair on Amazon. I have the Aeropex from Aftershokz that are bluetooth which > I like very much. However, I don't have the same condition you do - but I've > heard from those that have hearing loss that a set of bone conducting > headphones allow them to hear so much more than they're used to. Let me know > what you think. -John. > > https://www.amazon.com/AfterShokz-Titanium-Conduction-Headphones-AS401XB/dp/B01N2OOJY8 > > 73, > John (K4TOO) > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:23 AM Joseph Shuman via Elecraft > wrote: >> I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB >> at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use >> hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the >> equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & >> speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any >> experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or >> treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) >> >> Keeping Watch- >> shu >> >> Joe Shuman, NZ8P >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k4...@arrl.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I may have missed or forgotten it; but does the computer portion of the K4 (the network chip specifically) allow for BlueTooth audio from the RF portion so one could use a BT headset (hearing aids)? I have a BT headset with a (no boom) mic used on a iPhone that would be awesome to retask for phone on the K4 audio. Two less wires on the desk... 73, Rick NK7I PS if not, one for the want list? On 1/26/2021 4:45 PM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: Thanks to everyone. A lot of good experience and advice to consider. Keeping Watch - shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rick.n...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Thanks to everyone. A lot of good experience and advice to consider. Keeping Watch - shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
On 1/26/2021 1:24 PM, Phil Kane wrote: My aids are Phonak Audeo as well - high priced devices that are behind the ear with receivers in the outer canal. Several comments here. First, hearing "doctors" who sell hearing aids get a 100% commission for what they sell, doubling the cost to the buyer. When my XYL was looking for aids, several ham friends who also happen to be engineers, recommended Costco. I went with her to the appointment to check her hearing and prescribe aids, and I took the same evaluation as she did. I was also present when they "tuned" the aids she bought a few weeks later. As an audio professional, I had to learn a lot about human hearing, and I was VERY impressed with every aspect of the process. They used excellent instrumentation, and the people doing it knew what they were doing. AND -- Costco sells top quality aids without the 100% markup, so the cost is half of what we would pay to an audiologist's office. Second, the aids she bought (about $3K for the pair), can be programmed for multiple settings, which can be recalled and tweaked from an app that runs on her Android phone and on her iPad, but the iPad app is superior to the Android app. Third -- a good friend who has severe hearing loss asked for help setting his K3 to compensate. My advice to him was to set RXEQ for maximum cut of all bands below 1 kHz and max boost of the remaining bands. He reported that it works well for him. When doing these tweaks, I suggest varying the 1 kHz setting "by ear." Also, set the IF bandwidth for 500 Hz-3kHz audio bandwidth. Finally, I strongly recommend that Wayne build "hearing impaired" settings into K4 firmware. I'd be happy to consult with him on this. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss (Mark WU6R)
My Philips hearing aids (Costco sourced) work well under my Yamaha CM500 headphones and have all the aforementioned control capabilities. I didn’t opt for rechargeable batteries as the feature did not appear cost effective. Bill K4YJJ On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 2:25 PM Mark Wheeler via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > > > Shu, > > > I have pretty severe hearing loss and my solution is a behind the ear > Bluetooth controlled hearing aid that has an accompanying smart phone app > that allows me to boost or otherwise customize on the fly bass, mids, and > treble. Additional on the fly customizable features include noise > reduction, speech focus, and wind noise reduction. Mine is also lithium > battery-powered and rechargeable which is a big convenience. Although it > isn't a complete fix to the problem, it is a real big improvement. It is a > major improvement over my previous in-the-ear hearing aid. I'm happy to > share more details if you are interested. > > > Regards, > Mark WU6R > mark3...@icloud.com > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to bcobb...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
On 1/26/2021 11:40 AM, David Bunte wrote: The option of piping your rig into your hearing aids might be the solution if you have that option. My aids are Phonak Audeo as well - high priced devices that are behind the ear with receivers in the outer canal. I also use a Phonak CommPilot device with a loop that hangs around my neck and feeds signals to the aids by induction. The Comm Pilot is Bluetooth paired with my mobile phone for hands-free operation and has a 3.5 mm "Audio Jack" that permits me to feed audio from external devices with a suitable cable. The audio feels like it's inside my head, and the aids' primary function of boosting external sounds is reduced slightly but not eliminated. Batteries in the aids last about a week if disconnected while I sleep, and the CommPilot is put on charge at that time as well. Not much of a learning curve. Works well with my computer and radios. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Shu - Please allow me to add my thoughts to the discussion. My hearing loss is not profound, but when I started using hearing aids I had to ditch my Yamaha CM-500 headset, as its over the ear style rubbed against the behind the ear receiver in canal style of my hearing aid. That made for a LOT of unwanted noise. I went to an on the ear headset and have been very happy. That might not do the job for someone with severe hearing loss because the mic for the aid is in the unit behind the ear. I use the Bluetooth capability of these hearing aids for phone calls and it is amazing how good it sounds... better than using the phone in a more conventional manner. My hearing aids do allow me to boost the high end, and I can adjust the levels between the right and left aid. These units are Phonak Audeo P90 units. I had to pay big bucks because they are not covered by any of my insurance. My brother-in-law just got a pair like these through the VA at no cost to him... he thanked me for paying my taxes. The option of piping your rig into your hearing aids might be the solution if you have that option. Best of luck and very 73 de Dave - K9FN On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:24 AM Joseph Shuman via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB > at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I > use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have > the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & > speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any > experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer > or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) > > Keeping Watch- > shu > > Joe Shuman, NZ8P > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to dpbu...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss (Mark WU6R)
Shu, I have pretty severe hearing loss and my solution is a behind the ear Bluetooth controlled hearing aid that has an accompanying smart phone app that allows me to boost or otherwise customize on the fly bass, mids, and treble. Additional on the fly customizable features include noise reduction, speech focus, and wind noise reduction. Mine is also lithium battery-powered and rechargeable which is a big convenience. Although it isn't a complete fix to the problem, it is a real big improvement. It is a major improvement over my previous in-the-ear hearing aid. I'm happy to share more details if you are interested. Regards, Mark WU6R mark3...@icloud.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Firstly, nothing above about 3.4kHz is relevant for communications, and for typical SSB that is down to about 2.7 to 3kHz. However, with a large hearing loss, you really need to find a solution that uses the hearing aids, as digital aids will have safety features and dynamic range compression that will minimise further damage to your hearing. You didn't mention which style you had. Whilst open fit would be common for people with good low frequency responses, I'm not sure that they would be used with that level of loss. I have full moulds, because I have an atypical loss in one ear, so I'm not sure of the limitations of open fit, but as they normally bypass the low frequencies, they may be unsuitable for a direct audio feed. I'm not sure to what extent that also applies to receiver in the canal. I suspect the direct bypass means they are less stable against feedback. For full moulds, and over the ear, I think you would normally get the options of electrical connections to audio shoes, induction loop, bluetooth (and 3.5mm audio) adapters that you wear on the body and send a very short range transmission to the actual aids. Some aids would directly support bluetooth. Incidentally, it may well not be well known, but hearing aid prescriptions generally under-compensate by about a factor of two in the dB values, so an aid for a 60dB loss would, typically, only have 30dB gain at the frequency in question. -- David Woolley On 26/01/2021 16:22, Joseph Shuman wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I think a class-action lawsuit is in order against Boston, the Electric Light Orchestra and General Dynamics. John AE5X https://ae5x.blogspot.com >I have moderate to heavy hearing loss after spending 10 years on the >flight line around jet engines. Rock and roll didn't help much either. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I have moderate to heavy hearing loss after spending 10 years on the flight line around jet engines. Rock and roll didn't help much either. I like the open air Yeasu YH77sta in the shack and on filed day when you need to talk with a logger. They do not interfere with my Phonak over the ear aids. Harry NK9R On 1/26/2021 11:22 AM, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rf...@bellsouth.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I use the Heil PARS with Bose QC35 headphones which are far and away the most comfortable cans I have ever used. Until I got them, I gave up on cans and just used earbuds. My hearing loss is mostly limited to my left ear, so I break out the left audio stream to the PARS and adjust volume so it is centered in my head. 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 8:24 AM Joseph Shuman via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB > at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I > use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have > the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & > speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any > experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer > or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) > > Keeping Watch- > shu > > Joe Shuman, NZ8P > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kwidel...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
Following with great interest - as have a similar issue On Tuesday, January 26, 2021, 11:24:41 AM EST, Joseph Shuman via Elecraft wrote: I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to backhoe...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Headphones for Hearing Loss
I have severe high-frequency hearing loss, up to 85 dB at 6-8KHz and 60 dB at 3-4KHz. Lower than that my hearing is close to normal for my age. I use hearing aids and the style I have won’t work with headphones. I have the equalizer on the KX2 set to boost the highs, OK with an external amp & speaker but it is not enough with the headphones I have. Any experience/recommendations with headphones that have a built-in equalizer or treble boost? SSB operator. (KX2 #3007, KXPA100 #2802) Keeping Watch- shu Joe Shuman, NZ8P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
