Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Phil Kane]

On 7/24/2018 10:05 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

> I know I can disassemble it and find a bad joint or isolate the inline
> conductor break  I was just making SURE before I turn the screws on
> this STILL IN WARRANTY headset and not gonna do it without the
> owner's permission first, too.

And of course the minute you do that, "still in warranty" becomes a
thing of the past.  If it is still in warranty, why not get it exchanged
for one that works properly?

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Clay Autery]

Geez... guys...  

I didn't ask y'all anything about warranty repairs or any of that 
Not even my headset.  He's a 70+ year old man fully capable of making 
his OWN decisions.


I posted a technical question!

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On 25-Jul-18 09:11, Walter Underwood wrote:

A Koss SB45 ($25) is another option for an interim headset. I’ve heard good 
reports on that one, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-sb45-SB-45-Communication-Stereophones/dp/B00081A2CW

wunder
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On Jul 25, 2018, at 4:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:

I agree with John on this.  Heil is good about warranty and quick turn-a-round. 
   If one is concerned about being without a headset, then I suggest 
obtaining/buying a CM500 as a spare while the ProSet is away for repair.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/25/2018 6:06 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

I would contact Heil, they should fix it under warranty.

John KK9A



Clay Autery KY5G wrote:

Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder
joint at one end or the other)?

My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able
to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good
setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).

Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1)
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver.
It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3
conductors with shields for ground.

He's ordered a new cable, but I want to make sure it's not something we
have both not considered before replacing the cable.  I guess he could
warranty repair, et al. but he doesn't want to be without a functional
headset for weeks.

73,


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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Walter Underwood]

A Koss SB45 ($25) is another option for an interim headset. I’ve heard good 
reports on that one, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-sb45-SB-45-Communication-Stereophones/dp/B00081A2CW

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> On Jul 25, 2018, at 4:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> I agree with John on this.  Heil is good about warranty and quick 
> turn-a-round.If one is concerned about being without a headset, then I 
> suggest obtaining/buying a CM500 as a spare while the ProSet is away for 
> repair.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> On 7/25/2018 6:06 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
>> I would contact Heil, they should fix it under warranty.
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Clay Autery KY5G wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when
>> everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder
>> joint at one end or the other)?
>> 
>> My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able
>> to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good
>> setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).
>> 
>> Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1)
>> solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right
>> channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver.
>> It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3
>> conductors with shields for ground.
>> 
>> He's ordered a new cable, but I want to make sure it's not something we
>> have both not considered before replacing the cable.  I guess he could
>> warranty repair, et al. but he doesn't want to be without a functional
>> headset for weeks.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I agree with John on this.  Heil is good about warranty and quick 
turn-a-round.    If one is concerned about being without a headset, then 
I suggest obtaining/buying a CM500 as a spare while the ProSet is away 
for repair.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/25/2018 6:06 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:

I would contact Heil, they should fix it under warranty.

John KK9A



Clay Autery KY5G wrote:

Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder
joint at one end or the other)?

My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able
to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good
setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).

Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1)
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver.
It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3
conductors with shields for ground.

He's ordered a new cable, but I want to make sure it's not something we
have both not considered before replacing the cable.  I guess he could
warranty repair, et al. but he doesn't want to be without a functional
headset for weeks.

73,




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[Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[j...@kk9a.com]

I would contact Heil, they should fix it under warranty.

John KK9A



Clay Autery KY5G wrote:

Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder
joint at one end or the other)?

My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able
to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good
setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).

Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1)
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver.
It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3
conductors with shields for ground.

He's ordered a new cable, but I want to make sure it's not something we
have both not considered before replacing the cable.  I guess he could
warranty repair, et al. but he doesn't want to be without a functional
headset for weeks.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Clay Autery]

I tried ALL permutations...  SPKR + PH, SPKR - PH, and the Tap 1 to do 
the SW+ and SW-...  Never left audio.


Just did a resistance comparison be W3FPR suggestion there is an 
open in the left channel circuit somewhere OR a bad driver.


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On 24-Jul-18 17:05, Richard Wade wrote:
Do you have the config menu on your K3s item SPKR+PH set to YES or NO? 
When I set that config item to YES then the audio to the right 
headphone is muted and the speaker works.  With NO selected I have 
audio to both headphones and the speaker is muted.


I have this config setting set to M1 so that I can switch between 
speaker and headphones quickly.  If I am listening to speaker and want 
to go to headphones there is always audio to the left phone and quick 
touch of M! mutes the speaker and gives audio to both phones.


73,
Dick WM6G

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Don Wilhelm > wrote:


Clay,


On your K3S, did you try plugging into the rear phones jack?  You
can do that without any  1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter.

The resistance of each earpiece should be easy to check with your
ohmmeter and be revealing if there is a cord problem. The left
channel (tip) should compare with the right (ring) unless
something is open or shorted.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/24/2018 4:23 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel
output when everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or
failed R channel solder joint at one end or the other)?

My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never
been able to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my
K3s with known good setup for 2-channel into phones
(Sennheiser HD598SE).

Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to
be 1) solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver,
2) a right channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2)
failed right driver. It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded
cord...  so I am assuming 3 conductors with shields for ground



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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Clay Autery]

Yep, tried the rear port without the 1/8 x 1/4 TRS adapter...  same deal.

I know I can disassemble it and find a bad joint or isolate the inline 
conductor break  I was just making SURE before I turn the screws on 
this STILL IN WARRANTY headset and not gonna do it without the 
owner's permission first, too.


Good idea on the resistance check though step in the right direction.

Tip--> Sleeve = 199.98 Ohms
Ring--> Sleeve = no reading up through 2000 MegaOhms so... there's 
an OPEN on one of the left channel lines Gonna have to take it apart 
to track it down...  It could be in a half dozen places OR still the 
driver.


Thanks!

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On 24-Jul-18 15:36, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Clay,


On your K3S, did you try plugging into the rear phones jack?  You can 
do that without any  1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter.


The resistance of each earpiece should be easy to check with your 
ohmmeter and be revealing if there is a cord problem.  The left 
channel (tip) should compare with the right (ring) unless something is 
open or shorted.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/24/2018 4:23 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when 
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel 
solder joint at one end or the other)?


My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been 
able to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with 
known good setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).


Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1) 
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right 
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver. 
It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3 
conductors with shields for ground.




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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Richard Wade]

Do you have the config menu on your K3s item SPKR+PH set to YES or NO?
When I set that config item to YES then the audio to the right headphone is
muted and the speaker works.  With NO selected I have audio to both
headphones and the speaker is muted.

I have this config setting set to M1 so that I can switch between speaker
and headphones quickly.  If I am listening to speaker and want to go to
headphones there is always audio to the left phone and quick touch of M!
mutes the speaker and gives audio to both phones.

73,
Dick WM6G

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Clay,
>
>
> On your K3S, did you try plugging into the rear phones jack?  You can do
> that without any  1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter.
>
> The resistance of each earpiece should be easy to check with your ohmmeter
> and be revealing if there is a cord problem.  The left channel (tip) should
> compare with the right (ring) unless something is open or shorted.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/24/2018 4:23 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>
>> Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when
>> everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder
>> joint at one end or the other)?
>>
>> My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able
>> to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good
>> setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).
>>
>> Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1)
>> solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right channel
>> (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver. It's a
>> non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3 conductors with
>> shields for ground.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Don Wilhelm]

Clay,


On your K3S, did you try plugging into the rear phones jack?  You can do 
that without any  1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter.


The resistance of each earpiece should be easy to check with your 
ohmmeter and be revealing if there is a cord problem.  The left channel 
(tip) should compare with the right (ring) unless something is open or 
shorted.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/24/2018 4:23 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when 
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder 
joint at one end or the other)?


My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able 
to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good 
setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).


Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1) 
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right 
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver. It's 
a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3 conductors 
with shields for ground.



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[Elecraft] The ProSet - K2 Boom Headset - Left channel only...

[Clay Autery]

Anyone ever had a ProSet two fail to deliver two channel output when 
everything is set up correctly (aka bad cable or failed R channel solder 
joint at one end or the other)?


My Elmer has a set bought in April of this year and has never been able 
to get right channel.  I took it today to try on my K3s with known good 
setup for 2-channel into phones (Sennheiser HD598SE).


Same problem on my radio...  no right channel.  Almost HAS to be 1) 
solder joint failure on one of the wires to the driver, 2) a right 
channel (+) solder failure at the 1/8" TRS, 2) failed right driver.  
It's a non-coiled three cable-bonded cord...  so I am assuming 3 
conductors with shields for ground.


He's ordered a new cable, but I want to make sure it's not something we 
have both not considered before replacing the cable.  I guess he could 
warranty repair, et al. but he doesn't want to be without a functional 
headset for weeks.


73,

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