Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Don, While perhaps "obvious," the models you describe are not updates of previous versions in the order as W3FPR pointed out in a subsequent message. Those radios are very different from each other in many aspects, especially performance. Although, each is considered by most to be a top performer in its class. I am amused by many who add one or more of the new K3S modules to their K3 and then call their radio a K3S. They are not and never will be. An upgraded K3 can approach a K3S, but not quite get there. I hate to start another K4 e-mail chain. It may be too late now. If I were to bet, I would bet the next Elecraft top-of-the-line K? will likely use a newer topology than the K3. However, the K3S is number three on Rob Sherwood's receiver performance list. As Rob has pointed out the last several years, transmitter performance (cleanliness) is where most radios need improvement today. Regardless, when operating Field Day or any multi-multi event, my K3 with updated (correct term in this case) synthesizers is my radio of choice. I have seen how many new radios "collapse" under the strain of other nearby transmitters. At the same time, there are other radios with comparable performance in similar situations. I am anxiously waiting for the Elecraft next iteration, whether or not it's designated K4, to take the lead. 73, Bill, K8TE Hi all, It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2 (which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 ! It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme. Don, KE0PVQ -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
An updated K3? I think they’re called “a keeper.” Bob Brown, N1CVX K3 # 327 Sent from my iPad __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Yep, it almost as confusing as the progression of the Collins S-Line receivers, from the 75S-1, 75S-2, 75S-3, 75S-3A, 75S-3B, and finally, the 75S-3C. Personally, I feel the reason the K3s was not introduced as the K4, is that they didn't want to make all the K3 owners feel like Icom buyers. (Example: IC-756, IC-756PRO, IC-756PRO II, IC-756 PRO III, IC-7600 and now the IC-7610.) Not knocking Icom since I have owned each of them and understand their product development & marketing strategy. I currently have the IC-7610 as well as a K3s/P3/VGA and I like them both. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Don Schroder Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:57 AM To: Rich ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? Hi all, It's very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then "updated" to a K2 (which I am building). Then they "updated" to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it's very obvious to me, that the new "updated" radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 ! It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme. Don, KE0PVQ Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Rich Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S options that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options. As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical. Rich On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote: > One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. > > I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft > reflector or other places where the radios are discussed. > > I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the > following differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the > K3 that can not be upgraded to equal the new K3S radio. > > John k9uwa > John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations > k9...@arrl.net Visit our Web Site at: > http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com > 4836 Ranch Road > Leo, IN 46765 > USA > 1-260-637-6426 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > rwnewbo...@comcast.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donandde...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
For those who dwell far to the right of the decimal point (rather than in caves), I suppose there could be a whole alphabet of suffix designations. My precise intent was a light-hearted, generic characterization. My K3 (Vintage - Upgraded) is not currently up for sale. Dick - KA5KKT - Except, it doesn’t actually MEAN anything. Unless you’ve been living in a cave since you bought one, almost every K3 is “upgraded” to some extent. It doesn’t solve the basic problem — a K3 (or even K3S to a lesser extent) needs to specify precisely (1) what published mods have been installed, (2) what factory mods have been installed, and (3) what options it contains. I’d certainly never buy someone’s K3U thing without that information … with a “U” or not. This is just nuts … Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > > But K3U is simple and, if adopted by this group, probably will "stick"! > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Except, it doesn’t actually MEAN anything. Unless you’ve been living in a cave since you bought one, almost every K3 is “upgraded” to some extent. It doesn’t solve the basic problem — a K3 (or even K3S to a lesser extent) needs to specify precisely (1) what published mods have been installed, (2) what factory mods have been installed, and (3) what options it contains. I’d certainly never buy someone’s K3U thing without that information … with a “U” or not. This is just nuts … Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > > But K3U is simple and, if adopted by this group, probably will "stick"! > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Bernie, AF9US beat me to it. I thought K3U for updated or K3+. It would only designate it has hdwr updates but not which ones specifically. If selling, those should be listed by the seller and clarified whether self-installed or Elecraft-installed, which might matter to some buyers. My K3 SN-4340 bought in 2010 is upgraded with two new synth and modified gen coverage bw filter for operation on 630m. It has many options which I installed as a "kit". Firmware is not updated to latest vers (yet). So each radio is "customized" by the owner so a simple upgrade designation is kind of incomplete. I call my KX3 the KX3-2M to specify it has the 2m transverter mod (which I installed as a kit). But it has other options installed. But K3U is simple and, if adopted by this group, probably will "stick"! 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
We could name them like fighter aircraft variants: K3 bis, K3 ter, K3 quater. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Jan 11, 2019, at 6:17 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Clarification: > > The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3. There > is a difference, in model number and performance and features. Thus from my > take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the recommended factory > upgrades installed.And a K3S is a K3S that can only come from the > factory.And in both cases, presumably a difference in value for resale > purposes. > > 73 > > Bob, K4TAX > > > On 1/11/2019 8:08 AM, Doug Person wrote: >> K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades. >> >> Doug -- KJ0F >> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
The term 'Vintage' is often used on eBay to impart certain aspects of an item. A K3S might be 'Modern.' An updated K3 could be 'Modernized Vintage.' Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
That one was slow, waist-high, and right over the plate. :-) 73 Eric WD6DBM On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 8:11 AM Don Wilhelm Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain. > The K1 came later, followed by the KX1. > Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally, > the KX2. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Not quite right. The K2 was first - named after the mountain. The K1 came later, followed by the KX1. Then came the K3. The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally, the KX2. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/11/2019 10:56 AM, Don Schroder wrote: Hi all, It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2 (which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 ! It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme. Don, KE0PVQ Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Rich Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S options that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options. As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical. Rich On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote: One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or other places where the radios are discussed. I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be upgraded to equal the new K3S radio. John k9uwa John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations k9...@arrl.net Visit our Web Site at: http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com 4836 Ranch Road Leo, IN 46765 USA 1-260-637-6426 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rwnewbo...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donandde...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Hi all, It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2 (which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 ! It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme. Don, KE0PVQ Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Rich Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S options that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options. As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical. Rich On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote: > One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. > > I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft > reflector or > other places where the radios are discussed. > > I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the > following > differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be > upgraded to equal the new K3S radio. > > John k9uwa > John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF > Antique Radio Restorations > k9...@arrl.net > Visit our Web Site at: > http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com > 4836 Ranch Road > Leo, IN 46765 > USA > 1-260-637-6426 > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rwnewbo...@comcast.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donandde...@hotmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a serious thing. Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S. The difference in each radio can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as far as options go. That is the bottom line. To me the K3S options that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options. As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical. Rich On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote: One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or other places where the radios are discussed. I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be upgraded to equal the new K3S radio. John k9uwa John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations k9...@arrl.net Visit our Web Site at: http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com 4836 Ranch Road Leo, IN 46765 USA 1-260-637-6426 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rwnewbo...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
K3A Mike, W1USN Si vis pacem, para bellum m...@rioux.org > On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:24 AM, Charlie T wrote: > > It should be named "K3CharlieT". > (After ME !) > That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable > collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever is used at that time for > bartering. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > If you think this is a tad absurd, you're absolutely correct.just as > this thread has gotten. > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of Raymond Sills > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? > > So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it > from a K3S. > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to m...@rioux.org > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Couldn’t agree more. I’ll wager there is at least one early K3 out there with a new synthesizer board and none of the published K3 updates installed. Sure .. it’s “upgraded”, but what is it? The whole “I have a K3S and you have a mere K3” bit of puffery going around is just … well … puffery :-) Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 > On Jan 11, 2019, at 9:31 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > > All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be listed as > a K3 SN with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the buyer knows what > he is buying. > > I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they are > listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for instance) that only the > firmware has been changed while the A to B upgrades have not been installed. > What upgraded means to one person does not equal the perception of another > person. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
All this is fun and good, but if you are selling it, it needs to be listed as a K3 SN with the specific upgrades enumerated - so the buyer knows what he is buying. I have run into this problem many, many times with the early K2s - they are listed as being upgraded, only to find out (for instance) that only the firmware has been changed while the A to B upgrades have not been installed. What upgraded means to one person does not equal the perception of another person. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/11/2019 9:08 AM, Doug Person wrote: K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades. Doug -- KJ0F On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"? Back to my lab where I belong Wayne N6KR On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich wrote: I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@kj0f.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3. I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or other places where the radios are discussed. I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be upgraded to equal the new K3S radio. John k9uwa John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations k9...@arrl.net Visit our Web Site at: http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com 4836 Ranch Road Leo, IN 46765 USA 1-260-637-6426 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
It should be named "K3CharlieT". (After ME !) That way, when I get famous, your descendants can sell it as a valuable collectable artifact for lots of money, or whatever is used at that time for bartering. 73, Charlie k3ICH If you think this is a tad absurd, you're absolutely correct.just as this thread has gotten. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Raymond Sills Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:15 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from a K3S. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Clarification: The Tentec Omni VI Plus is not the same as the Tentec Omni VI, opt 3. There is a difference, in model number and performance and features. Thus from my take, a K3 upgrade is just that, a K3 that has the recommended factory upgrades installed. And a K3S is a K3S that can only come from the factory. And in both cases, presumably a difference in value for resale purposes. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 1/11/2019 8:08 AM, Doug Person wrote: K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades. Doug -- KJ0F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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K3+ as the TenTec folks had referred to the Omni 6 with upgrades. Doug -- KJ0F On 1/10/2019 8:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"? Back to my lab where I belong Wayne N6KR On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich wrote: I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@kj0f.com -- 73 de Doug -- KJ0F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I'd say it is called and "updated K3". The K3S is different and my understanding is that a K3 can not be updated to be a K3S. All abet similar, in the end, they are different radios. For that fact alone, the reason I purchased a K3S and not a K3 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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So. let's call it a K3U... (U for upgrade)... so as to distinguish it from a K3S. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Wayne Burdick To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Thu, Jan 10, 2019 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in > it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Guessing you would check the serial number first, rear panel AND menu. That would tell you straight off Sent from my iPhone > On 11 Jan 2019, at 18:59, "j...@kk9a.com" wrote: > > Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be > most unhappy. > > John KK9A > > > > > Rich k3RWN > > I kind of like > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > Rich > > K3RWN > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to hs0...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Bad idea. If I purchased a used K3s and received a modified K3 I would be most unhappy. John KK9A Rich k3RWN I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
What’s an updated K3 to be called? This is a no-brainer! You guys love to analyze — even to the point of OT! Analyze this! (Love the movie!): My suggestion is: K3U. It is simple, bears nice resemblance to the manufacturer’s existing model naming scheme. As an interested but non-owner of Elecraft radios, any moniker that bears too close of a resemblance to the manufacturer’s conventions (K3s, for example) can be too easily confused as a typo mistake, leaving a potential buyer thinking K3S; and, also requiring a buyer to know the differences between the updated K3 and the K3S. I definitely appreciate all the differences itemized in this email thread, a “compiled and authorized list” will go a long way in helping prospective buyers have the information needed at the time he or she is ready to purchase an updated K3. My suggestion-recommendation-vote is for K3U. Enjoying the Elecraft email group, Bernie, AF9US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Brilliant Rich, I like it. - 73 - Petr, OK1RP "Apple & Elecraft freak" B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com G+:http://goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: http://goo.gl/gP99xq -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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...and one more think, the ATU bypass relay if I am right ;) - 73 - Petr, OK1RP "Apple & Elecraft freak" B:http://ok1rp.blogspot.com G+:http://goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: http://goo.gl/gP99xq -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Or, singing A Capella while in laboratory! On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:15 PM Eric Norris wrote: > I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD > backlight setting > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich > > I kind of like > > > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > > > Rich > > > > K3RWN > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ldormis...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I prefer neoK3S, like neoNoir, only brighter, depending on your LCD backlight setting 73 Eric WD6DBM On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, 7:17 PM Rich I kind of like > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > Rich > > K3RWN > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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And the new rubber band on the knob. 73,Ed W0YK Original message From: Wayne Burdick Date: 1/10/19 19:01 (GMT-08:00) To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in > it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to e...@w0yk.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
Sure. Or maybe the "real" K3S is "Son of K3," while the upgraded model is "Stepson of K3"? Back to my lab where I belong Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Rich wrote: > > I kind of like > > K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 > > K3S (upper case S) is the new radio > > Rich > > K3RWN > > On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: >> what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in >> it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. >> __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I also added the KIO3B modification to my K3 (2197) in addition to the synthesizer, DVR and TXCO so it operates just like my K3S's. The only difference is on the Keypad 6 which says DUAL PB on the K3 and APF on the K3S that I can see. Ed.. AB4IQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 9:01 PM To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ab...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I kind of like K3s (lower case S) is modified K3 K3S (upper case S) is the new radio Rich K3RWN On 1/10/2019 21:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to rwnewbo...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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:-D -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 10:01 PM To: Jamie WW3S Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called? ...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to h...@optilink.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
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...and the AF amp improvements on the DSP board, and the new VFO display bezel, and the 5/10/15 dB attenuator on the RF board, and the lower noise mod on the RF board :) Wayne N6KR > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Jamie WW3S wrote: > > what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in > it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
what do we call an original K3 with the new preamp and synthesizer boards in it? K3 1.5? only difference between it and a S model is the USB board. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
