Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3

2015-03-05 Thread Michael Eberle
I think there is a setting in the config menu for FM deviation.  Maybe it is 
set too low? 

Mike 
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div Original message /divdivFrom: Bill Frantz 
fra...@pwpconsult.com /divdivDate:03/05/2015  5:22 PM  (GMT-06:00) 
/divdivTo: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net /divdivSubject: [Elecraft] 6M 
repeater use K3 /divdiv
/divI've been trying to get my K3 to hit the WVARA repeater on 6M. 
The repeater is about 2 miles from the house, so power isn't an 
issue. I can hit it with my KX3 and the IC-706etc in my car. I 
can also use the K3 with the 2M internal transverter to reach 2M repeaters.

I have the K3 in FM T mode, and when I hold PITCH on the K3, I 
get 151.4 in the VFO-A display and PL TONE in the VFO-B display 
which I think shows that the K3 should be sending the tone. 
(Also when I PTT on the microphone, the K3 displays the correct 
repeater input frequency in VFO-A.)

When I use the KX3, the K3 can clearly hear when the KX3 is 
sending the 151.4 Hz CTCSS tone and when it is not. Using the 
KX3 to listen to the K3, I can not hear the K3 sending the tone. 
I do hear a loud raspy note. quite unlike the tone I hear when 
the KX3 is the transmitter. This raspy note does not go away 
when I turn tone off after holding PITCH on the K3.

Does anyone have any ideas?

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz

Mine is set to the default, 5.0.
FWIW, the microcode is version 05.10
D1 is 02.83
D2 is 00.00 only one receiver
FL is 01.17
dr is 00.00 no DVR

When I checked the versions, the utility found newer software. I 
tried hitting the repeater with microcode 05.14 and FL 1.19, but 
it still fails. There is still that raspy note when listening to 
the K3 transmit frequency. The frequency is higher than my 600 
Hz CW tone. (Note that I am running the KX3 without an antenna 
and it is showing about S7 signal strength.)


73 Bill AE6JV


On 3/5/15 at 5:47 PM, mtebe...@mchsi.com (Michael Eberle) wrote:


I think there is a setting in the config menu for FM deviation.  Maybe it is 
set too low? 

Mike 
KI0HA


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div Original message /divdivFrom: Bill 
Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com /divdivDate:03/05/2015  5:22 
PM  (GMT-06:00) /divdivTo: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
/divdivSubject: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3 /divdiv
/divI've been trying to get my K3 to hit the WVARA repeater 
on 6M. The repeater is about 2 miles from the house, so power 
isn't an issue. I can hit it with my KX3 and the IC-706etc in 
my car. I can also use the K3 with the 2M internal transverter 
to reach 2M repeaters.


I have the K3 in FM T mode, and when I hold PITCH on the K3, I 
get 151.4 in the VFO-A display and PL TONE in the VFO-B display 
which I think shows that the K3 should be sending the tone. 
(Also when I PTT on the microphone, the K3 displays the correct 
repeater input frequency in VFO-A.)


When I use the KX3, the K3 can clearly hear when the KX3 is 
sending the 151.4 Hz CTCSS tone and when it is not. Using the 
KX3 to listen to the K3, I can not hear the K3 sending the 
tone. I do hear a loud raspy note. quite unlike the tone I hear 
when the KX3 is the transmitter. This raspy note does not go 
away when I turn tone off after holding PITCH on the K3.


Does anyone have any ideas?

73 Bill AE6JV

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www.pwpconsult.com |ibuted to Andrew Tanenbaum| Los Gatos, 
CA 95032


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[Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz
I've been trying to get my K3 to hit the WVARA repeater on 6M. 
The repeater is about 2 miles from the house, so power isn't an 
issue. I can hit it with my KX3 and the IC-706etc in my car. I 
can also use the K3 with the 2M internal transverter to reach 2M repeaters.


I have the K3 in FM T mode, and when I hold PITCH on the K3, I 
get 151.4 in the VFO-A display and PL TONE in the VFO-B display 
which I think shows that the K3 should be sending the tone. 
(Also when I PTT on the microphone, the K3 displays the correct 
repeater input frequency in VFO-A.)


When I use the KX3, the K3 can clearly hear when the KX3 is 
sending the 151.4 Hz CTCSS tone and when it is not. Using the 
KX3 to listen to the K3, I can not hear the K3 sending the tone. 
I do hear a loud raspy note. quite unlike the tone I hear when 
the KX3 is the transmitter. This raspy note does not go away 
when I turn tone off after holding PITCH on the K3.


Does anyone have any ideas?

73 Bill AE6JV

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CA 95032


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Re: [Elecraft] 6M repeater use K3 - fixed

2015-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz
Well, I found the problem. I had been playing with PL DEV at 
Wayne't request back in September. Wayne wanted to know what the 
minimum deviation that would work on the transverters.


On 9/6/14 at 8:36 AM, Wayne wrote:

2. To adjust the PL DEViation, locate the FM DEV menu entry, 
then tap '1' to switch to PL DEV. This applies to both the K3 
and KX3.


I had dialed it back to 0.15, the minimum and everything worked 
well on 2M, but I hadn't tried 6M. When I raised the value from 
0.15 to 0.21 the repeater started working. (It fails at the 
intermediate setting of 0.18). The raspy tone I heard on the KX3 
was audio feedback with the speaker too close to the mic.


Thanks for Michael Eberle, KI0HA for mentioning FM deviation. It 
helped me remember that I had performed the experiment.


73 Bill AE6JV

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