Re: [Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon (K3)

2017-03-06 Thread Alan Bloom

Hi Paul,

It's just a matter of adjusting the SensorCal menu setting until the 
power reads the same as the device used for the calibration.  Of course, 
that assumes the calibration device is more accurate than the P3.  :=)


The nominal calibration value is 500.  The intent was to make it 
correspond to the same value as in a W2, but the match is not perfect. 
For one thing, the P3 uses a more-sophisticated algorithm to match the 
diode detector nonlinearity than the W2.


Alan N1AL


On 03/06/2017 08:56 AM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:

Alan - is there any documentation available on the procedure for calibrating 
the Tx Monitor?
73Paul
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[Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon (K3)

2017-03-06 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
Alan - is there any documentation available on the procedure for calibrating 
the Tx Monitor?
73Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon (K3)

2017-03-06 Thread Alan Bloom
Yes, it can be calibrated in a manner similar to the W2.  The menu entry 
is TXMonMenu/SensorCal.  There is a separate calibration stored for each 
sensor type (200W/2000W, HF/VHF).


Alan N1AL


On 03/06/2017 08:26 AM, paul ecker via Elecraft wrote:

A related question on this subject concerning the Tx Monitor. In
terms of Power & SWR readings, can the Transmit Monitor be calibrated
? Or have other users found no need to adjust readings right out of
the box? Reviewing the P3 manual on pages 34-35 there isn't much said
about this subject. 73Paulkc2nyu
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[Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon (K3)

2017-03-06 Thread paul ecker via Elecraft
A related question on this subject concerning the Tx Monitor. In terms of Power 
& SWR readings, can the Transmit Monitor be calibrated ? Or have other users 
found no need to adjust readings right out of the box? Reviewing the P3 manual 
on pages 34-35 there isn't much said about this subject.
73Paulkc2nyu
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Re: [Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon

2017-03-06 Thread Vic Rosenthal
This is one of my pet peeves with the W2 -- it does not have an option for 
delivered power. Yes, I know how to subtract, but it's beyond trivial to do 
this in the software, and it would be convenient.

Vic 4X6GP

> On 6 Mar 2017, at 05:32, Alan Bloom  wrote:
> 
> The P3 shows total forward power.  The power delivered to the feedline is 
> forward minus reflected.
> 
> With a 13:1 SWR, 73.5% of the power is reflected and 26.5% is transmitted.  
> If the transmitted power is 92 watts then the total forward power should be 
> 347 watts.
> 
> Alan N1AL
> 
> 
>> On 03/05/2017 06:58 PM, Grady Harper via Elecraft wrote:
>> I placed the DCHF-200 after my antenna tuner.  In other words, the
>> DCHF-200 is between my tuner and antenna.  When relying on my tuner
>> to match the antenna to the radio My power meter (on the P3) is
>> showing an SWR of a little over 13:1 (which is about right) .  My
>> meter on my tuner is showing about 92 watts of power headed down the
>> antenna,but the meter on the P3 is showing over 200 watts.  My
>> intended output being 100 watts.  Does the DCHF-200 show out-going
>> pwr + reflected pwr?  The tuner matches the antenna to the radio, and
>> the tuner meter shows a very very small amt. of reflected power. I
>> put the DCHF-200 at this location, because if I had the tuner
>> installed in the radio, this is where it would go.
>> 
>> The antenna is a fan dipole trimmed for 40 meters and 20 meters.  I
>> am on  3.810 MHz and without the tuner the SWR is about 13.2:1 here.
>> The tuner matches the antenna to the radio with a SWR of very close
>> to 1.0:1. .
>> 
>> AJ4YA Grady
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon

2017-03-05 Thread Alan Bloom
The P3 shows total forward power.  The power delivered to the feedline 
is forward minus reflected.


With a 13:1 SWR, 73.5% of the power is reflected and 26.5% is 
transmitted.  If the transmitted power is 92 watts then the total 
forward power should be 347 watts.


Alan N1AL


On 03/05/2017 06:58 PM, Grady Harper via Elecraft wrote:

I placed the DCHF-200 after my antenna tuner.  In other words, the
DCHF-200 is between my tuner and antenna.  When relying on my tuner
to match the antenna to the radio My power meter (on the P3) is
showing an SWR of a little over 13:1 (which is about right) .  My
meter on my tuner is showing about 92 watts of power headed down the
antenna,but the meter on the P3 is showing over 200 watts.  My
intended output being 100 watts.  Does the DCHF-200 show out-going
pwr + reflected pwr?  The tuner matches the antenna to the radio, and
the tuner meter shows a very very small amt. of reflected power. I
put the DCHF-200 at this location, because if I had the tuner
installed in the radio, this is where it would go.

The antenna is a fan dipole trimmed for 40 meters and 20 meters.  I
am on  3.810 MHz and without the tuner the SWR is about 13.2:1 here.
The tuner matches the antenna to the radio with a SWR of very close
to 1.0:1. .

AJ4YA Grady

Thanks.

Sent from my iPad
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[Elecraft] A question on the P3 or actually the Tx Mon

2017-03-05 Thread Grady Harper via Elecraft
I placed the DCHF-200 after my antenna tuner.  In other words, the DCHF-200 is 
between my tuner and antenna.  When relying on my tuner to match the antenna to 
the radio My power meter (on the P3) is showing an SWR of a little over 13:1 
(which is about right) .  My meter on my tuner is showing about 92 watts of 
power headed down the antenna,but the meter on the P3 is showing over 200 
watts.  My intended output being 100 watts.  Does the DCHF-200 show out-going 
pwr + reflected pwr?  The tuner matches the antenna to the radio, and the tuner 
meter shows a very very small amt. of reflected power.  
I put the DCHF-200 at this location, because if I had the tuner installed in 
the radio, this is where it would go.

The antenna is a fan dipole trimmed for 40 meters and 20 meters.  I am on  
3.810 MHz and without the tuner the SWR is about 13.2:1 here.  The tuner 
matches the antenna to the radio with a SWR of very close to 1.0:1. .

AJ4YA
Grady

Thanks.

Sent from my iPad
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