Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-21 Thread Robert Tellefsen
This idea is right on the money, Wayne.
I use simple dipoles with tuned feeders,
and have to manually throw the slide switch
from one band to the next. This idea would
be a real help in automating my contest
station.
Thanks and 73
Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Leigh L Klotz, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:00 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?


 Leigh wrote:
 
  This is great! I had been meaning to ask because I have use a 
  switchable BL2 ony my big loop and had no way of knowing what the KAT3 
  was doing in the 1:1 and 4:1 positions, other than how long it took to 
  find a match.
 
 This is certainly one excellent use of the KAT3's LCSET mode, Leigh.
 
 You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a 
 relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use 
 one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay 
 under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from 
 the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay 
 from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output.
 
 If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at 
 it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
  On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55 am, wayne burdick wrote:
 
  If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the 
  matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the 
  KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then 
  exit the menu. Next, tap ATU TUNE. This will display the present L 
  and C values.
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-21 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Thanks to all for replies.
Yes, I might need to make a module anyway, because I had in mind direct use
from the K3 and not including a KRC2

73 de M0XDF / FISTS #12575, K3 # 174
Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year

On 20/12/07 21:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

 David,
 
 Not to worry...I am sure someone will develop a mod to change the BL2
 to a BL3.
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[Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-20 Thread wayne burdick

Leigh wrote:

This is great! I had been meaning to ask because I have use a 
switchable BL2 ony my big loop and had no way of knowing what the KAT3 
was doing in the 1:1 and 4:1 positions, other than how long it took to 
find a match.


This is certainly one excellent use of the KAT3's LCSET mode, Leigh.

You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a 
relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use 
one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay 
under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from 
the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay 
from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output.


If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at 
it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55 am, wayne burdick wrote:


If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the 
matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the 
KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then 
exit the menu. Next, tap ATU TUNE. This will display the present L 
and C values.





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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-20 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I just bought a BL2 with my K3 - why wasn't there a BL3 then!
HiHi

I'd be interested, especially if the KAT3 worked the relay when tuning too


On 20/12/07 20:00, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent
 You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a
 relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use
 one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay
 under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from
 the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay
 from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output.
 
 If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at
 it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)
-- 
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to fix the situation yourself. ItŒs dangerous. Leave it to a highly
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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-20 Thread James C. Hall, MD
It could be that the relay could be switched by sending DC voltage up 
the coax, particularly if the balun is a good distance from the radio - 
much like turning on a pre-amp on the mast.


73, Jamie
WB4YDL



wayne burdick wrote:

Leigh wrote:

This is great! I had been meaning to ask because I have use a 
switchable BL2 ony my big loop and had no way of knowing what the 
KAT3 was doing in the 1:1 and 4:1 positions, other than how long it 
took to find a match.


This is certainly one excellent use of the KAT3's LCSET mode, Leigh.

You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a 
relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then 
use one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the 
relay under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire 
running from the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power 
the relay from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output.


If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at 
it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55 am, wayne burdick wrote:


If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the 
matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the 
KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then 
exit the menu. Next, tap ATU TUNE. This will display the present L 
and C values.





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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-20 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, wayne burdick wrote:



You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a relay 
rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1.


And for those that bought the BL2...a handy-dandy retrofit kit.

If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at it. I 
have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)


Knowing that I never have the right stuff, I know as soon as you make it 
available, I will find out that I've needed it all along.


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Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?

2007-12-20 Thread k4tmc

David,

Not to worry...I am sure someone will develop a mod to change the BL2 
to a BL3.


73,
Henry - K4TMC


-Original Message-
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 
control?











I just bought a BL2 with my K3 - why wasn't there a BL3 then!
HiHi

I'd be interested, especially if the KAT3 worked the relay when tuning 
too



On 20/12/07 20:00, wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent

You've also given me an idea for a BL3: Same as the BL2 but with a
relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then 

use

one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay
under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from
the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay
from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output.

If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at
it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :)

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to fix the situation yourself. ItŒs dangerous. Leave it to a highly
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