Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.

Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.

Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
either RG-174 or RG-58.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Chuck Shefflette
The question is, can you get RG-316? Same size as 174 but higher power handling 
capacity and tougher jacket. 

Chuck - AA3CS

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:55, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:

 
 The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
 L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.
 
 Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
 cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
 beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
 of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.
 
 Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
 either RG-174 or RG-58.
 
 73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.
 
 73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread David Cutter
I think RG142 is closer.  Specifying that doubles the price, depending on 
length.  Worth it if you need the power handling and flexibility.

David
G3UNA


- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Shefflette aa...@me.com
To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)


 The question is, can you get RG-316? Same size as 174 but higher power 
 handling capacity and tougher jacket.

 Chuck - AA3CS

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:55, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
 L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.

 Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
 cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
 beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
 of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.

 Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
 either RG-174 or RG-58.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


 On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Jim N7US
Has anyone tried jumpers to connect a PR6?  I have a tough time getting to
the jacks above and below it when it's connected to the K3 with the
double-male adapter.

73, Jim N7US



-Original Message-

The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with L-Com
http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.

Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers cables
at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps beyond that -
while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice of lengths but are
slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.

Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for either
RG-174 or RG-58.

73,

... Joe, W4TV




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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  I generally would want UHF connectors, but some BNC.

Neither of the two houses I mentioned show UHF connectors at all.
They're generally targeting the commercial world and seem to be at
home with BNC, TNC, N, SMA and some of the specialty Motorola
connectors.

On the other hand, there are some places that specialize in the
amateur world - Cable Experts (www.cablexperts.com), ABR Industries
(www.abrind.com) - who don't seem to have BNC to BNC but look to be
heavily into UHF and N cables in .240 inch (RG8X size), .405 inch
(RG-213, LMR-400 size), and .60 inch (LMR-600) cables.   The LMR/CNT
cables are double shielded (braid over foil) where the RG8X and
RG-213 cables are single (95%) shield.

Cable Experts also shows RG-142U (Teflon, .195 inch) cables ...


73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 4/8/2012 1:53 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 What is the double-shielded thin flexible stuff, thinner than RG-58?  My LMR
 240 jumpers are a good small diameter but too stiff for my liking.  I
 generally would want UHF connectors, but some BNC. I think I want double
 shielding because it's in a station with multiple transmitters and I want to
 limit leakage.

 Dick, K6KR


 -Original Message-
 From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
 [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Cutter
 Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 8:24 AM
 To: Chuck Shefflette; Joe Subich, W4TV
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

 I think RG142 is closer.  Specifying that doubles the price, depending on
 length.  Worth it if you need the power handling and flexibility.

 David
 G3UNA


 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Sheffletteaa...@me.com
 To: Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com
 Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)


 The question is, can you get RG-316? Same size as 174 but higher power
 handling capacity and tougher jacket.

 Chuck - AA3CS

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:55, Joe Subich, W4TVli...@subich.com  wrote:


 The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
 L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.

 Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
 cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
 beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
 of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.

 Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
 either RG-174 or RG-58.

 73,

 ... Joe, W4TV


 On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Bob Nielsen
RG142 has a copperweld center conductor which isn't very flexible  RG400 is 
similar but has a stranded center conductor and is more flexible (but also 
expensive).

73, Bob N7XY

On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Cutter wrote:

 I think RG142 is closer.  Specifying that doubles the price, depending on 
 length.  Worth it if you need the power handling and flexibility.
 
 David
 G3UNA
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chuck Shefflette aa...@me.com
 To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)
 
 
 The question is, can you get RG-316? Same size as 174 but higher power 
 handling capacity and tougher jacket.
 
 Chuck - AA3CS
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:55, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:
 
 
 The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
 L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.
 
 Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
 cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
 beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
 of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.
 
 Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
 either RG-174 or RG-58.
 
 73,
 
   ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
 
 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.
 
 73,
 
... Joe, W4TV
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/8/2012 5:10 PM, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 RG142 has a copperweld center conductor which isn't very flexible  RG400 is 
 similar but has a stranded center conductor and is more flexible (but also 
 expensive).

The steel component of copperweld makes it lossier than solid or 
stranded copper below about 10 MHz. You can see this in graphs of loss 
vs frequency for coax with CCS center conductor.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)

2012-04-08 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
You can frequently find RG400 jumpers for sale on eBay, with useful
lengths, even if you have to cut off the connectors already on them.
They sometimes have one or more BNC connectors already on the cable.
RG400 is still made new and is rated for the kinds of sharp bends that
are found in aircraft wiring harnesses.  This is really good stuff
that will last a lifetime. Rated at many times ham radio QRO power
level.  It's good for SHORT runs in a station, very flexible and looks
good bundled up.  It's the same outside diameter as RG58 and uses the
UG175 adapter as a good fit adapter to put a PL259 on the end(s).
What I like the most about it, is in soldering connectors, you CAN'T
MELT it.  You can strip a bit of the outside jacket and sweat (solder)
the shield to copper strap without harming it in any way, for
excellent grounding and bonding of stuff running around the station.
I've only ever been able to do that with teflon coax.

Once you get to know all RG400's advantages, it kind of grows on you.

73, Guy

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net wrote:
 RG142 has a copperweld center conductor which isn't very flexible  RG400 is 
 similar but has a stranded center conductor and is more flexible (but also 
 expensive).

 73, Bob N7XY

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 11:24 AM, David Cutter wrote:

 I think RG142 is closer.  Specifying that doubles the price, depending on
 length.  Worth it if you need the power handling and flexibility.

 David
 G3UNA


 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Shefflette aa...@me.com
 To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 3:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC jumpers? (Thanks)


 The question is, can you get RG-316? Same size as 174 but higher power
 handling capacity and tougher jacket.

 Chuck - AA3CS

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 10:55, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


 The winner seems to be Cables on Demand www.cablesondemand.com with
 L-Com http://www.l-com.com/productcenter.aspx?ID=8 a strong second.

 Both have RG-58 or RG-174 cables at reasonable prices.  L-Com offers
 cables at any length - in 6 increments to 3 feet and one foot steps
 beyond that - while Cables on Demand does not have quite the choice
 of lengths but are slightly (5 to 7%) less expensive.

 Right angle BNC connectors are also available from either vendor for
 either RG-174 or RG-58.

 73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


 On 4/6/2012 2:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

 Anyone have a source for quality *50 Ohm* BNC jumpers - like that
 supplied with the P3 - at a reasonable price?  I can't find them
 locally and the ones at places like All Electronics are of poor
 quality/intermittent, etc.

 73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


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